Re: collision of rehearsal marks, y-parent
On 30-Mar-06, at 11:51 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
While working on a big score together with proper parts extraction I
find that vertical positioning of rehearsal marks needs manual
adjustments most often.
Absolutely. :(
I use this method as a workaround:
\layout { \context { \Score
\override RehearsalMark #'Y-offset =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::aligned-on-y-parent
\override RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-Y = #-1
}}
and sometimes override it with things like
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-Y = #0.7
in the piece.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: collision of rehearsal marks, y-parent
Werner LEMBERG wrote: While working on a big score together with proper parts extraction I find that vertical positioning of rehearsal marks needs manual adjustments most often. Is it possible to add a collision resolver for rehearsal marks? The preventing what kind of collisions? `padding' option doesn't work well since it is important that rehearsal marks are as near as possible to the staff lines. BTW, how can I find out in lilypond-internals.info the `parent' of a grob? For example, this is for RehearsalMark objects: But what is the `Y-parent'? It would be great if this information could be added there. it depends. In case of teh rehearsal mark, I guess it will be the System grob. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilypond ./ChangeLog scm/lily-library.scm lily/...
Graham Percival wrote: (format #f - (_ no \\version statement found, add~afor future compatibility) + (_ no \\version statement found, please add~afor future compatibility) (format #f \n\n\\version ~s\n\n (lilypond-version)) Please revert. please is a superfluous word. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Improvements to Postscript backend (patches included)
David Feuer wrote: (format #f gsave - /~a ~a ~a output-scale div scalefont setfont\n~a grestore + /~a ~a output-scale div selectfont\n~a grestore postscript-font-name - (if cid? - /CIDFont findresource - findfont) I don't understand this? How are CID resources supposed to be loaded now? According to the Postscript reference, selectfont can be used with CID resources as well as regular fonts. Unfortunately, I can't make the utf-8 regression test work either with or without my changes, so I can't be sure I got this right. unfortunately, Ghostscript disagrees. It throws a /typecheck error from --glyphshow-- , if you load the font as a regular font. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: collision of rehearsal marks, y-parent
Is it possible to add a collision resolver for rehearsal marks? The preventing what kind of collisions? Almost everything: note heads and rests (with attached articulation grobs) stems beams octavation lines, trills, tuplets, etc. slurs and ties bar numbers clefs Dynamics and scripts are probably not necessary because they are below the staff line normally. But what is the `Y-parent'? it depends. In case of teh rehearsal mark, I guess it will be the System grob. You `guess'. Interesting :-) Where can I find information about this? Is it documented somewhere? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
Hi MarcusOn 3/16/06, Marcus Macauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:43 -0800, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in this kind of 'al niente' / 'de niente' thing, too, but haven't had a chance to figure out the right settings yet.This sounds interesting, do you have an image of a real world example? (I was unable to find one by googling). I wasn't aware of al niente until now, but I could certainly make use of it in some of my arrangements. At least one music font/notation program, I forget which, includes for this purpose a letter n in the same style as mrsfp for dynamics. So perhaps theideal way to implement this latter kind of niente notation (the hairpin circletip being the other kind) would be to create a new dynamic mark, called n, and syntax analogous to the other dynamics, thus:c2~\ c~ c r\nI made a quick hack for this just for fun (I'm sure Han-Wen would implement it more properly, especially the font); see the attached patch and test case. (I suspect that the circles are a bit misplaced, but as I said this is just a quick hack).Regards, Erlend Aasland niente.patch Description: Binary data niente-test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document niente-test.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Minor corrections
Hi,The 2.8 news page (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html) says New features in 2.7..., but it should obviously say New features in 2.8.Regards, Erlend Aasland ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
On 3/31/06, Erlend Aasland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcus On 3/16/06, Marcus Macauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:43 -0800, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in this kind of 'al niente' / 'de niente' thing, too, but haven't had a chance to figure out the right settings yet. This sounds interesting, do you have an image of a real world example? (I was unable to find one by googling). I wasn't aware of al niente until now, but I could certainly make use of it in some of my arrangements. At least one music font/notation program, I forget which, includes for this purpose a letter n in the same style as mrsfp for dynamics. So perhaps the ideal way to implement this latter kind of niente notation (the hairpin circle tip being the other kind) would be to create a new dynamic mark, called n, and syntax analogous to the other dynamics, thus: c2~\ c~ c r\n I made a quick hack for this just for fun (I'm sure Han-Wen would implement it more properly, especially the font); see the attached patch and test case. Oh wow. This is really cool. Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scores of Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through some this weekend and make a few small scans. IIRC I think the circles are a touch smaller, maybe about 80% of what you've rendered here; again, I get the scans to help out. Could the size of the circle be a configurable parameter? -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
HiOn 3/31/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scoresof Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through somethis weekend and make a few small scans.Great! IIRC I think the circles are a touch smaller, maybe about 80% of whatyou've rendered here; again, I get the scans to help out. Could the size of the circle be a configurable parameter?Yes, I think so. Perhaps we should have a thickness parameter too? Regards, Erlend Aasland --Trevor Bača[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
On 3/31/06, Erlend Aasland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On 3/31/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scores of Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through some this weekend and make a few small scans. Great! IIRC I think the circles are a touch smaller, maybe about 80% of what you've rendered here; again, I get the scans to help out. Could the size of the circle be a configurable parameter? Yes, I think so. Perhaps we should have a thickness parameter too? Ah, yes. Good call. Yeah, I can't remember exactly whether the weight was somewhat more or less, so yeah, good idea. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
Erlend Aasland wrote: Hi On 3/31/06, *Trevor Bača* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scores of Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through some this weekend and make a few small scans. Great! IIRC I think the circles are a touch smaller, maybe about 80% of what you've rendered here; again, I get the scans to help out. Could the size of the circle be a configurable parameter? Yes, I think so. Perhaps we should have a thickness parameter too? I recommend you compute thickness and radius from the hairpin thickness and height. Otherwise, you must have to create a separate Grob. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
On 3/31/06, Erlend Aasland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On 3/31/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scores of Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through some this weekend and make a few small scans. Great! OK, yes: If you look in the Sciarrino flute works (which are absolutely incredible pieces, by the way) the circled al-niente / dal-niente markings are an integral part of the surfaces in 'All'aure in una lontananza' and also in the material towards the end of 'Hermes', 'Come vengono prodotti gli incantesimi?' and also 'Canzona di ringraziamento'. One word of warning: the Sciarrino flute works are all hand copy, so we will be able to determine the proper size of the open circles, but we'll have to guess at the ideal weight of the (postscript) line in the electronic version (since the weight of all the lines in the hand copy are equal, save for beams); points again to a settable parameter to afford different choices. The examples towards the end of 'Come vengono ...' are so beautiful. The scanner's in the closet at the moment so I'll have to wait until later this evening to hook it up and send over the examples. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: collision of rehearsal marks, y-parent
note heads and rests (with attached articulation grobs) stems beams octavation lines, trills, tuplets, etc. slurs and ties bar numbers clefs This is a problem: almost everything is not very specific. Well, I gave a list, didn't I? Is there a general pattern of collision resolution that you can spot (ie. always sideways, or always upwards?) Upwards, I think, should be sufficient. If you really want to find out, you can either a. look at the engravers source code b. add a small Scheme-callback to the rehearsalmark that prints the result of ly:grob-parent ; eg. you could attach it to the 'text property. Hmm, I still think it belongs to the docs... Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Minor corrections
On 31-Mar-06, at 3:18 AM, Erlend Aasland wrote: The 2.8 news page (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html) says New features in 2.7..., but it should obviously say New features in 2.8. Already fixed, thanks. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: GUB: patch for linux_kernel_headers
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: It was a few weeks ago, so I assume that debian throws away old versions quickly. I expect that this will break in the near future as well; can we figure out a mechanism that doesn't rely on Debian source archives? Or one that takes it from a stable version of ubuntu/debian? Yes, we could, but then it would not be debian_unstable.py. We may want to disable downloading of debian-unstable stuff by default (esp. because we do not build debian anyway) or make a switch to debian_stable.py. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: please spread release announcement
* If you report a release somewhere, please send a note to lilypond-devel to prevent double work. did it in www.ziobudda.net ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Improvements to Postscript backend (patches included)
On 3/31/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the Postscript reference, selectfont can be used with CID resources as well as regular fonts. Unfortunately, I can't make the utf-8 regression test work either with or without my changes, so I can't be sure I got this right. unfortunately, Ghostscript disagrees. It throws a /typecheck error from --glyphshow-- , if you load the font as a regular font. Yech. I suspect this is a bug in Ghostscript, though I could be reading the PostScript reference wrong. Could you take a look at section 5.11.3 (CIDFont Dictionaries), the entry for selectfont in the operator index (page 656, or PDF page 670), and the entry for glyphshow (page 602, PDF page 616)? ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: al niente / de niente - was Re: (no subject)
On 3/31/06, Erlend Aasland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi On 3/31/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you've definitely got the idea; the best examples are in scores of Sciarrino's recent music and I'll have time to dig through some this weekend and make a few small scans. Great! OK, here are two nice examples. The first is near the end of the second page of Sciarrino's 'All'aure in una lontananza' and the second is the very last bit of 'Come vengono prodotti gli incantesimi?'. Note, too, the use of back-to-back hairpins in the first example, with the 'niente' circle at the center. [While we're looking at the notation, I'd like to take a moment to plug these pieces: the complete set of Sciarrino's flute music is one of the most attractive, hypnotic bodies of work you can ever hope to find. The small motions that build up each piece come from a pleasantly, bewilderingly different number of directions, and the cumulative psychological effect of listening through any one of the pieces is, for me anyway, a disassociation with time that is almost total. Also the notation is really cool. Very much recommended.] -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond on Mac OSX Terminal
On 31-Mar-06, at 12:49 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Graham Percival wrote: On 29-Mar-06, at 7:10 PM, David Rogers wrote: In your .profile somewhere, add this line: export PATH=$PATH:/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin Thanks, I've added this to the manual. - Graham I'm not sure if this is the right solution though. That directory also contains private versions of (among others) Ghostscript, that require setting GS_LIB. Could we set up a .../Resources/external-bin/ directory, containing symlinks to the files in .../bin that users should be able to run? (convert-ly, lilypond, lilypond-book, midi2ly, etc) - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
can we remove input/test/text-spanner.ly ?
I'm not certain what input/test/text-spanner.ly is supposed to demonstrate. Could we either clarify this example, delete it, or move it to the regression tests (if it's useful as such) ? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
