Re: About lilypond's build problem with debian

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thomas Bushnell BSG schreef:

 I'm distressed that nobody has bothered to fix the bug since then.  In
 the thread on the mailing list you can see that if LILYPONDPREFIX is
 set correctly, the bug goes away.

 This issue has been addressed in a more robust manner in the 2.9
 series, and I would welcome a backport of the changes; we haven't
 found the time to do it.

Good to hear.  I think for Debian's purposes, setting LILYPONDPREFIX
properly is probably the simplest solution.  I look forward to 2.10
having a bettr fix in place.

Thomas


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Re: About lilypond's build problem with debian

2006-07-25 Thread Ludovic RESLINGER
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:08:03AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
 Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Thomas Bushnell BSG schreef:
 
  I'm distressed that nobody has bothered to fix the bug since then.  In
  the thread on the mailing list you can see that if LILYPONDPREFIX is
  set correctly, the bug goes away.
 
  This issue has been addressed in a more robust manner in the 2.9
  series, and I would welcome a backport of the changes; we haven't
  found the time to do it.
 
 Good to hear.  I think for Debian's purposes, setting LILYPONDPREFIX
 properly is probably the simplest solution.  I look forward to 2.10
 having a bettr fix in place.
 
It doesn't work in 2.9 series, I have tested tomorrow.
Actually, the only one solution that I found is to make
an symbolic link of pythons scripts in python/ - scripts/
When I did that, the bug seems to go away, and help2man seem
to make correctly his job. There is a problem for scripts in
scripts/ for finding files in python, and when I put them in
the same directory, the problem goes away.

I think there is a problem again, the new implementation of
LILYPONDPREFIX in 2.9 series doesn't seem to correct 
the problem.

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Re: About lilypond's build problem with debian

2006-07-25 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Thomas Bushnell BSG schreef:

The problem is that lilypond's build system assumes that lilypond is
already installed on the system.

Han-Wen Nienhuys said no, it uses LILYPONDPREFIX, but as I point out
in the thread, it is setting LILYPONDPREFIX *incorrectly*, and the
reason the builds are working for Han-Wen is that he already has
lilypond installed.


this is false BTW, as I don't have lilypond installed at all.  I always 
run from the development tree.


I would welcome a usable bugreport about this, as Ludovic has so far 
declined to produce one.



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Re: Bug or Feature?

2006-07-25 Thread Marco Gusy
Alle 21:02, mercoledì 19 luglio 2006, hai scritto:
 Please read the section on Automatic accidentals in the manual.

/Mats

modern
This rule corresponds to the common practice in the 20th century. This rule 
prints the same accidentals as default, but temporary accidentals also are 
canceled in other octaves. Furthermore, in the same octave, they also get 
canceled in the following measure

I already red it, and I think this behaviour is not correct. When playing you 
feel stronger the sharp in the same measure than the unsharp of the previous 
one. The previous one unsharp should not override the diesis in the same 
measure don't you think?
Anyway the problem is still more annoying, this happens also if the first note 
is measures far away... 

\version 2.8.0


\score {
\new Staff {
\relative c' {
#(set-accidental-style 'modern)
\clef bass
\partial 4
c |
g a g f |
e f g a |
b a g a |
cis,, cis' c' c,
}
}

}


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Re: page breaking (again)

2006-07-25 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here is my latest patch to add a new page-breaker.

May you not abbreviate that much variable names in scheme code?
It's usual to write full names, eg. paper-book and page-number,
iso. p-book and p-num.

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Re: About lilypond's build problem with debian

2006-07-25 Thread Ludovic RESLINGER
Re,

I have found why it builed for you and not on
my system.

The python version installed on my system was a
2.4 version. I had backported on a 2.3 version,
and the problem seem solved.

It will be interesting to know why there is this problem
with new versions of python, because if one
day Python is 2.4 by default, the bug could be a
problem to build. I don't know if it is a problem of
Debian Package or if it is a general problem of python 2.4.
I will test more...

So, for Thomas BUSHNELL: I don't know if it is really a good idea to
wait Python 2.4 by default to release lilypond in debian :)

I hope that you will be satisfy of my report, this
time :).

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Re: page breaking (again)

2006-07-25 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:43 +0200, Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
 Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Here is my latest patch to add a new page-breaker.
 
 May you not abbreviate that much variable names in scheme code?
 It's usual to write full names, eg. paper-book and page-number,
 iso. p-book and p-num.

OK, fixed.

Joe



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Re: About lilypond's build problem with debian

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thomas Bushnell BSG schreef:
 The problem is that lilypond's build system assumes that lilypond is
 already installed on the system.

 Han-Wen Nienhuys said no, it uses LILYPONDPREFIX, but as I point out
 in the thread, it is setting LILYPONDPREFIX *incorrectly*, and the
 reason the builds are working for Han-Wen is that he already has
 lilypond installed.

 this is false BTW, as I don't have lilypond installed at all.  I
 always run from the development tree.

On April 27 I submitted a bug report for 2.8.1, and explained the fix
that solves the problem.  I have no idea about 2.9 and what changes
you say have been made there.

Thomas


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Re: No Bug nor Feature?

2006-07-25 Thread Donald Axel
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:36:17 +0200
Marco Gusy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I already red it, and I think this behaviour is not correct. When playing you 
 feel stronger the sharp in the same measure than the unsharp of the previous 
 one. The previous one unsharp should not override the diesis in the same 
 measure don't you think?
 Anyway the problem is still more annoying, this happens also if the first 
 note 
 is measures far away... 

Don't be annoyed, you can get your money back if you want;-)

Music-notation is annoying anyway you look at it and demands a great
effort on the behalf of the writer (even with pen and paper, which I
used for 20 years or more.)

Well, try to live with it, use ! or something like that to explicit
specify accidentals. Good luck and happy writing,

/Donald Axel



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Re: Bug or Feature?

2006-07-25 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:36 +0200, Marco Gusy wrote:
 Alle 21:02, mercoledì 19 luglio 2006, hai scritto:
  Please read the section on Automatic accidentals in the manual.
 
 /Mats
 
 modern
 This rule corresponds to the common practice in the 20th century. This rule 
 prints the same accidentals as default, but temporary accidentals also are 
 canceled in other octaves.

I may be reading the documentation wrong, but to me this suggests that
there _should_ be a natural on the high C (as Marco says). Are the docs
wrong, is the implementation wrong or am I reading it wrong?




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using new fall and doit features in 2.9.13

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Scott
Can someone tell me how to use the new fall and doit features.  I 
guessed incorrectly \fall and \doit.


TIA,

Paul Scott




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