Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 1/3/12 3:10 PM, "Graham Percival"  wrote:

>On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 10:44:57PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
>> Ah, I missed it cuz of the layout - my eyes are attracted by things in
>>boxes.
>> So my lilypond development for the day is...
>
>heh, I've wondered about doing something like that.
>
>I'm not wild about the idea, since the command-line gives you a
>clue about it anyway, and it's only relevant the very first time
>you do this... but sure, go ahead and push to staging.

Rather than doing it this way, let's put the original paragraph in an
example, even though it's not one.

@example
If you do not have the previous released.
@end example

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 10:44:57PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
> Ah, I missed it cuz of the layout - my eyes are attracted by things in boxes.
> So my lilypond development for the day is...

heh, I've wondered about doing something like that.

I'm not wild about the idea, since the command-line gives you a
clue about it anyway, and it's only relevant the very first time
you do this... but sure, go ahead and push to staging.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Graham Percival wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 10:00:01PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
>> 
>> Any ideas as to why gub hates me so early?
>> 
> 
> GUB hates you because you skipped over point 3 under "pre-release"
> on:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/minor-release-checklist
> 

Ah, I missed it cuz of the layout - my eyes are attracted by things in boxes.
So my lilypond development for the day is...

diff --git a/Documentation/contributor/release-work.itexi 
b/Documentation/contributor/release-work.itexi
index a3b7e86..413fc83 100644
--- a/Documentation/contributor/release-work.itexi
+++ b/Documentation/contributor/release-work.itexi
@@ -95,6 +95,12 @@ git push origin release/unstable
 If you do not have the previous release test-output tarball, download
 it and put it in @code{regtests/}
 
+@example
+This box has no reason for being here except to attract attention
+to the point above about downloading the previous release test-output
+tarball.
+@end example
+
 @item Prepare GUB environment by running:
 
 @example



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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 10:00:01PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
> 
> Any ideas as to why gub hates me so early?
> 

GUB hates you because you skipped over point 3 under "pre-release"
on:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/minor-release-checklist

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 1/3/12 2:00 PM, "m...@apollinemike.com"  wrote:

>
>On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:26:48PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
>>> 
 I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
 subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
 created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
 steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
 the official one.
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid that if I did the whole prep release announcement thing,
>>>I'll accidentally push stuff to master that shouldn't be there, no?
>> 
>> hmm, yes, good point.  Also, I wouldn't want to have stuff in
>> release/unstable unless it's an actual release.
>> 
>> Ok, skip over the git commands, and maybe other stuff if they're
>> not relevant... but the basic idea of "look in the minor releases
>> section to see how to use GUB" is still valid.  :)
>
>
>Sorry to pester - I promise to be as autonomous as possible so long as
>GUB starts being as autonomous as possible.
>
>I got :
>
>make LILYPOND_BRANCH=release/unstable lilypond
>make -f lilypond.make
>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mikesol/gub'
>mkdir -p versiondb regtests uploads
>
>
>**
>CHECK: regression tests tarball  (i.e. something like
>lilypond-2.13.4-1.test-output.tar.bz2
>) should be placed in regtests/
>
>When you have done this, disable this check by doing:
>touch regtests/ignore
>**
>
>
>exit 1
>make[1]: *** [regtests/ignore] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mikesol/gub'
>make: *** [lilypond] Error 2
>
>Any ideas as to why gub hates me so early?

It doesn't just download a regtest file from
http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/test-output/lilypond-2.15.23-1.test-o
utput.tar.bz2

and save it in regtests/

Then do touch regtests/ignore

and you're on your way.

Carl
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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread m...@apollinemike.com

On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Graham Percival wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:26:48PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
>>> subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
>>> created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
>>> steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
>>> the official one.
>> 
>> I'm afraid that if I did the whole prep release announcement thing, I'll 
>> accidentally push stuff to master that shouldn't be there, no?
> 
> hmm, yes, good point.  Also, I wouldn't want to have stuff in
> release/unstable unless it's an actual release.
> 
> Ok, skip over the git commands, and maybe other stuff if they're
> not relevant... but the basic idea of "look in the minor releases
> section to see how to use GUB" is still valid.  :)


Sorry to pester - I promise to be as autonomous as possible so long as GUB 
starts being as autonomous as possible.

I got :

make LILYPOND_BRANCH=release/unstable lilypond
make -f lilypond.make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mikesol/gub'
mkdir -p versiondb regtests uploads


**
CHECK: regression tests tarball  (i.e. something like
 lilypond-2.13.4-1.test-output.tar.bz2
) should be placed in regtests/

When you have done this, disable this check by doing:
 touch regtests/ignore
**


exit 1
make[1]: *** [regtests/ignore] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mikesol/gub'
make: *** [lilypond] Error 2

Any ideas as to why gub hates me so early?

Cheers,
MS
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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@apollinemike.com"  writes:

>> I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
>> subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
>> created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
>> steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
>> the official one.
>
> I'm afraid that if I did the whole prep release announcement thing,
> I'll accidentally push stuff to master that shouldn't be there, no?

You could work in a directory created with git clone, then you would
likely "only" be pushing to your own repository (be sure to reset it
before pushing anything upstream though, or create another clone or
checkout for your "upstream" simulation).

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:26:48PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
> 
> > I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
> > subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
> > created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
> > steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
> > the official one.
> 
> I'm afraid that if I did the whole prep release announcement thing, I'll 
> accidentally push stuff to master that shouldn't be there, no?

hmm, yes, good point.  Also, I wouldn't want to have stuff in
release/unstable unless it's an actual release.

Ok, skip over the git commands, and maybe other stuff if they're
not relevant... but the basic idea of "look in the minor releases
section to see how to use GUB" is still valid.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread m...@apollinemike.com

On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Graham Percival wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 08:09:10PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
>> I decided to download GUB and I think I've compiled everything (it ran for 
>> several hours and did not complain).
>> I have no clue how it works, though.  Is there any documentation beside the 
>> README?  The thing I understand least are the patches - are the patches in 
>> the patches file hand-written or auto-generated?
> 
> There's the README and the materials in the CG.  Umm, did you even
> *look* in the CG for "release instructions" or "releases" or
> whatever that chapter is called?  Chapter 11 or 12, I think it is?

This I did not...

> 
> I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
> subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
> created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
> steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
> the official one.

I'm afraid that if I did the whole prep release announcement thing, I'll 
accidentally push stuff to master that shouldn't be there, no?

Cheers,
MS
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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 08:09:10PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
> I decided to download GUB and I think I've compiled everything (it ran for 
> several hours and did not complain).
> I have no clue how it works, though.  Is there any documentation beside the 
> README?  The thing I understand least are the patches - are the patches in 
> the patches file hand-written or auto-generated?

There's the README and the materials in the CG.  Umm, did you even
*look* in the CG for "release instructions" or "releases" or
whatever that chapter is called?  Chapter 11 or 12, I think it is?

I slavishly follow the instructions in the "minor release"
subsection or subsubsection.  Every single devel release is
created by me copy&pasting from those steps.  If you follow those
steps as well, you should have exactly the same 2.15.23 release as
the official one.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Colin Campbell wrote:

> On 12-01-02 09:15 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>> Graham Percival  percival-music.ca>  writes:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:43:05PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:
 I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm
 on lilypond.org has changed), and I did a couple of manual
 downloads, so I'm not sure yet that GUB is ready to build
 out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get all the
 way through it.
>>> Eh?  I regularly build GUB out-of-the-box on lilydev [*].  What
>>> exactly do you think you need to do?
>> Well, I tried building GUB on 11.04, unsuccessfully (I have a file that
>> kept a record of everything I did, if anybody is interested).
>> 
>> Then I tried on lilydev in a virtual machine, and was also unsuccessful.
>> I didn't keep a good record of what happened at that time.
>> 
>> So then I tried with a fresh copy of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  I was able
>> to work everything out and get it to build.  I will probably try to
>> summarize the efforts in the miscellaneous part of the CG.
>> 
>>> In particular, what's this
>>> netpbm thing?
>> The source for netpbm on lilypon.org is
>> http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched/
>> netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2.
>> 
>> The source entry in gub/gub/specs/netpbm.py is
>> http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2
>> 
>> When the download doesn't succeed, no error is thrown.  So as long as you
>> have the file when it comes time to extract it, you can go ahead.  But if
>> the file isn't there, you end up with an error.
>> 
>> I've made a patch that fixes it and will send it to you.
>> 
> 

I decided to download GUB and I think I've compiled everything (it ran for 
several hours and did not complain).
I have no clue how it works, though.  Is there any documentation beside the 
README?  The thing I understand least are the patches - are the patches in the 
patches file hand-written or auto-generated?

Cheers,
MS
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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-03 Thread Colin Campbell

On 12-01-02 09:15 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:

Graham Percival  percival-music.ca>  writes:


On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:43:05PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:

I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm
on lilypond.org has changed), and I did a couple of manual
downloads, so I'm not sure yet that GUB is ready to build
out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get all the
way through it.

Eh?  I regularly build GUB out-of-the-box on lilydev [*].  What
exactly do you think you need to do?

Well, I tried building GUB on 11.04, unsuccessfully (I have a file that
kept a record of everything I did, if anybody is interested).

Then I tried on lilydev in a virtual machine, and was also unsuccessful.
I didn't keep a good record of what happened at that time.

So then I tried with a fresh copy of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  I was able
to work everything out and get it to build.  I will probably try to
summarize the efforts in the miscellaneous part of the CG.


In particular, what's this
netpbm thing?

The source for netpbm on lilypon.org is
http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched/
netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2.

The source entry in gub/gub/specs/netpbm.py is
http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2

When the download doesn't succeed, no error is thrown.  So as long as you
have the file when it comes time to extract it, you can go ahead.  But if
the file isn't there, you end up with an error.

I've made a patch that fixes it and will send it to you.




It would be very useful if the build process *did* barf when, and as 
soon as, a download fails.  It's painful to wait several hours into make 
lilypond, only to get a delayed error from a missing file.


Cheers,
Colin

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:15:06AM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> Graham Percival  percival-music.ca> writes:
> > [*] after installing libmpfr-dev, which is mentioned in the
> > README.
> 
> In looking at my notes, it appears that I may have failed on my lilydev 
> install because I didn't install libmpfr-dev.  (BTW, the package name
> libmpfr-dev is not in the README; I've made a patch to put it there, 
> and I'll send that to you too.

Well, line 117 says
  - the libmpfr library (and development headers)

Different distributions are going to call it different things; I
wouldn't be surprised if (completely random made-up example)
gentoo called it devel-mpfr-lib, for example.

I'm not arguing against clarifying the library name for ubuntu in
the README; ubuntu is a very widely used distribution, and lilydev
is our official development environment, after all.

oh, could you add a note to the "lilydev 2.0" tracker issue to ask
for libmpfr-dev to be installed?  I doubt that many people using
lilydev will be playing with GUB, but that library is IIRC less
than 100 Kb, so we might as well install it.  The same goes for
anything else you had to install.

> It will then be interesting to see if lilydev has everything needed to 
> do make lilypond.  On my vanilla 10.04 installation, there were some 
> additional things I needed to install in order to make lilypond, even 
> after completing make bootstrap.

Hmm.  GUB should auto-download&install anything else it needs --
although that said, I now recall that I have a lot of development
packages that I automatically install whenever I install a new OS.
So maybe my systems have these extra things already installed.

> Anyway, it's been more learning than I expected, but I think I can now 
> learn to modify the installers on GUB for windows and OS/X.

Great!

- apparently the OSX thing is already solved.  See the tracker
  issue, consult with Christian, and maybe look at my patches to
  GUB on the subject to see what you need to do.
(hint: it's a 1-line patch)

- no clue about the lilypond-book thing; if we keep on using
  msvrt, you'll need to wade into the vast murky waters of "how do
  we distribute python modules", which I know absolutely nothing
  about.  It's probably going to end up being a 1-line patch
  again, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out to
  be a "15 more hours to change 1 line" thing.
Oh, another hint off the top of my head: try searching (git grep)
for the python modules we *are* distributing.  Maybe you'll luck
out and find a nice compact list of "add these modules to GUB"
somewhere, in which case the whole thing could be solved in 2
minutes.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
Graham Percival  percival-music.ca> writes:

> 
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:43:05PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> > I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm
> > on lilypond.org has changed), and I did a couple of manual
> > downloads, so I'm not sure yet that GUB is ready to build
> > out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get all the
> > way through it.
> 
> Eh?  I regularly build GUB out-of-the-box on lilydev [*].  What
> exactly do you think you need to do?  

Well, I tried building GUB on 11.04, unsuccessfully (I have a file that 
kept a record of everything I did, if anybody is interested).

Then I tried on lilydev in a virtual machine, and was also unsuccessful.  
I didn't keep a good record of what happened at that time.

So then I tried with a fresh copy of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  I was able 
to work everything out and get it to build.  I will probably try to 
summarize the efforts in the miscellaneous part of the CG.

> In particular, what's this
> netpbm thing?

The source for netpbm on lilypon.org is 
http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched/
netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2.

The source entry in gub/gub/specs/netpbm.py is
http://lilypond.org/download/gub-sources/netpbm-patched-10.35.tar.bz2

When the download doesn't succeed, no error is thrown.  So as long as you
have the file when it comes time to extract it, you can go ahead.  But if 
the file isn't there, you end up with an error.

I've made a patch that fixes it and will send it to you.

> 
> [*] after installing libmpfr-dev, which is mentioned in the
> README.

In looking at my notes, it appears that I may have failed on my lilydev 
install because I didn't install libmpfr-dev.  (BTW, the package name
libmpfr-dev is not in the README; I've made a patch to put it there, 
and I'll send that to you too.

I'm currently in the midst of make bootstrap on lilydev.  I expect it to
continue to completion.

It will then be interesting to see if lilydev has everything needed to 
do make lilypond.  On my vanilla 10.04 installation, there were some 
additional things I needed to install in order to make lilypond, even 
after completing make bootstrap.

Anyway, it's been more learning than I expected, but I think I can now 
learn to modify the installers on GUB for windows and OS/X.

I'll be running make lilypond overnight tonight.

Thanks,

Carl



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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-01 Thread Colin Campbell

On 12-01-01 03:17 PM, Graham Percival wrote:

On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:43:05PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:

I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm
on lilypond.org has changed), and I did a couple of manual
downloads, so I'm not sure yet that GUB is ready to build
out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get all the
way through it.

Eh?  I regularly build GUB out-of-the-box on lilydev [*].  What
exactly do you think you need to do?  In particular, what's this
netpbm thing?

[*] after installing libmpfr-dev, which is mentioned in the
README.

Are you using the latest GUB?  IIRC there were a few updates some
months ago, when Colin and/or Phil tested a few things.

Cheers,
- Graham

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The change I made was updating the /spec file to bring curl up to 7.22 
in early November.  In checking the date, I see that I worked from 
https://github.com/janneke/gub and that the files in 
lilypond.org/download/gub-binaries and /gub-sources haven't been updated 
since March'11.  Is it possible that the change to the various tools 
used to build GUB or by GUB to build liloypond, are looking in outdated 
places or incompatible places?


Colin

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Re: GUB Build Success!

2012-01-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:43:05PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm
> on lilypond.org has changed), and I did a couple of manual
> downloads, so I'm not sure yet that GUB is ready to build
> out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get all the
> way through it.

Eh?  I regularly build GUB out-of-the-box on lilydev [*].  What
exactly do you think you need to do?  In particular, what's this
netpbm thing?

[*] after installing libmpfr-dev, which is mentioned in the
README.

Are you using the latest GUB?  IIRC there were a few updates some
months ago, when Colin and/or Phil tested a few things.

Cheers,
- Graham

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GUB Build Success!

2012-01-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
I have successfully built lilypond with GUB on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

I have the following files in the uploads directories:

carl@carl-MacBookPro:~/src/gub$ ls uploads
lilypond-2.15.24-1.darwin-ppc.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.documentation.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.freebsd-64.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.freebsd-x86.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-64.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-ppc.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-x86.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.mingw.execarl@carl-MacBookPro:~/src/gub$ ls uploads
lilypond-2.15.24-1.darwin-ppc.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.documentation.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.freebsd-64.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.freebsd-x86.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-64.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-ppc.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.linux-x86.sh
lilypond-2.15.24-1.mingw.exe
lilypond-2.15.24-1.test-output.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.webdoc.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24.tar.gz
localdoc
signatures
webdoc
webtest

lilypond-2.15.24-1.test-output.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24-1.webdoc.tar.bz2
lilypond-2.15.24.tar.gz
localdoc
signatures
webdoc
webtest


I have made one change to the spec files (the location of netpm on lilypond.org 
has changed), and I did a couple of manual downloads, so I'm not sure yet that 
GUB is ready to build out-of-the-box.  But I have demonstrated that I can get 
all the way through it.

Thanks for your help, Graham.  In particular, the reminder to check the 
logfiles when the process hung was very helpful as I moved forward.

Next step: do a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04 and start over again with my test 
instructions to make sure I've captured everything I did.

Thanks,

Carl

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