Re: metronome mark problems

2004-04-01 Thread Edward Sanford Sutton, III
On Tuesday March 30 2004 05:26, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Edward Sanford Sutton, III wrote:
> > On Monday March 29 2004 04:00, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> >>You can do this with \markup today, see the mailing list
> >>archives, for example
> >>http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-12/msg00013.html
> >
> >   It isn't so much of wether or not I can, but rather that I have to if I
> > want to place it right. I usually just use \tempo because it already goes
> > where it should, is small enough to generally not cause collision
> > problems for me, and I still have not been able to figure out what
> > property the padding applies to (I know, it's waiting for me in the
> > e-mail archives).
> >   In any case, tempo expressions are, in my experiences, very common; I
> > can't seem to recall the manual explaining the right way to fully typeset
> > these. Examples of some control are scattered about the manual, but most
> > musicians I know would be completely clueless about what professionals
> > do.
>
> Agreed!
>
> >   The important thing right now is that LilyPond does have a way that I
> > can make things look right (or however I desire) so thank you again.
> > Since you are always so helpful Mats, do you have suggested readings to
> > try to help me straighten out my sense of the various object types; I
> > seem to mix them up horribly anymore.  =(
>
> Han-Wen and Jan have recently rewritten the section "Changing defaults"
> in the manual and are eagerly waiting for positive and negative
> feedback.
>
> /Mats

  If it can wait, I'll be glad to give feedback on it; both my usual 
corrections waves and the positive/negative effects of the content. IS this 
to go along with the new scheme sections that recently came around too?
  School has me quite busy right now to the point that I haven't had time to 
update since 2.1.35 and unlike upgrading, (manual proof)reading is a slow 
process for me. I'm also deciding its time to learn dvorak so even typing is 
tedious for now.
Thanks again; the software and its support is among the best I have ever seen,
Ed Sutton


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Re: metronome mark problems

2004-03-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson


Edward Sanford Sutton, III wrote:
On Monday March 29 2004 04:00, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

You can do this with \markup today, see the mailing list
archives, for example
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-12/msg00013.html


  It isn't so much of wether or not I can, but rather that I have to if I want 
to place it right. I usually just use \tempo because it already goes where it 
should, is small enough to generally not cause collision problems for me, and 
I still have not been able to figure out what property the padding applies to 
(I know, it's waiting for me in the e-mail archives).
  In any case, tempo expressions are, in my experiences, very common; I can't 
seem to recall the manual explaining the right way to fully typeset these. 
Examples of some control are scattered about the manual, but most musicians I 
know would be completely clueless about what professionals do.
Agreed!

  The important thing right now is that LilyPond does have a way that I can 
make things look right (or however I desire) so thank you again.
  Since you are always so helpful Mats, do you have suggested readings to try 
to help me straighten out my sense of the various object types; I seem to mix 
them up horribly anymore.  =(
Han-Wen and Jan have recently rewritten the section "Changing defaults"
in the manual and are eagerly waiting for positive and negative
feedback.
   /Mats

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Re: metronome mark problems

2004-03-29 Thread Edward Sanford Sutton, III
On Monday March 29 2004 04:00, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> You can do this with \markup today, see the mailing list
> archives, for example
> http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-12/msg00013.html

  It isn't so much of wether or not I can, but rather that I have to if I want 
to place it right. I usually just use \tempo because it already goes where it 
should, is small enough to generally not cause collision problems for me, and 
I still have not been able to figure out what property the padding applies to 
(I know, it's waiting for me in the e-mail archives).
  In any case, tempo expressions are, in my experiences, very common; I can't 
seem to recall the manual explaining the right way to fully typeset these. 
Examples of some control are scattered about the manual, but most musicians I 
know would be completely clueless about what professionals do.
  The important thing right now is that LilyPond does have a way that I can 
make things look right (or however I desire) so thank you again.
  Since you are always so helpful Mats, do you have suggested readings to try 
to help me straighten out my sense of the various object types; I seem to mix 
them up horribly anymore.  =(
Ed Sutton


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Re: metronome mark problems

2004-03-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You can do this with \markup today, see the mailing list
archives, for example
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-12/msg00013.html
   /Mats

Edward Sanford Sutton, III wrote:
On Sunday March 28 2004 14:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote:

% . Assuming that the metronome mark affects the following input, it
%   shouldn't be located over the time signature.


  Where should it go? I've been manually moving tempo markings to be 
left-aligned with the time signature after people I've discussed typesetting 
with told me that they should be aligned like that.
  This is why markup text has been frustrating for me; I have been moving them 
to left align the time signature manually and just find it easier to use the 
metronome markings. Will there be text based metronome markings in the future 
that way something like 'Adante' could be placed consistent to other 
metronome marks?

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Re: metronome mark problems

2004-03-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG

> > % . Assuming that the metronome mark affects the following input,
> > %   it shouldn't be located over the time signature.
> 
> Where should it go?  I've been manually moving tempo markings to be
> left-aligned with the time signature after people I've discussed
> typesetting with told me that they should be aligned like that.

My mistake, sorry.  Sometimes I have different feelings how things
behave.

> This is why markup text has been frustrating for me; I have been
> moving them to left align the time signature manually and just find
> it easier to use the metronome markings.  Will there be text based
> metronome markings in the future that way something like 'Andante'
> could be placed consistent to other metronome marks?

Good idea!  Another wish is to have the possibility to select a double
wavy line instead of the equals sign, indicating an approximative
tempo value.  I suggest to add a third, optional parameter which gives
a textual representation (or whatever syntax is easy to parse).
Examples:

  \tempo 2 = 92 "Andante \quarter \approx 92"

  \tempo 2 = 92 "Andante (\quarter = ca. 92)"


Werner


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Re: metronome mark problems

2004-03-28 Thread Edward Sanford Sutton, III
On Sunday March 28 2004 14:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> % . Assuming that the metronome mark affects the following input, it
> %   shouldn't be located over the time signature.

  Where should it go? I've been manually moving tempo markings to be 
left-aligned with the time signature after people I've discussed typesetting 
with told me that they should be aligned like that.
  This is why markup text has been frustrating for me; I have been moving them 
to left align the time signature manually and just find it easier to use the 
metronome markings. Will there be text based metronome markings in the future 
that way something like 'Adante' could be placed consistent to other 
metronome marks?


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