Re: More 1.6 install problems (uni)

2002-11-01 Thread Carter Brey
This is my problem, too.  Seems to be spoecific to 1.6.6?

CB

Rune Zedeler wrote:


I solved the guile problems, and managed to build and install lily 1.6
at the uni.
Lilypond also compiles files with no problems (apart from problem with
determining size of tex-fonts. Perhaps more on that later).

Problem is that dvips and xdvi cannot find the 
music-drawing-routines.ps even though GS_LIB points to the correct dir:


[rz@dapsang:~/lilypond/ly]$ dvips -o test.ps test.dvi
This is dvips(k) 5.86e Copyright 2001 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2002.11.01:0606' - test.ps
dvips: ! Couldn't find header file music-drawing-routines.ps
[rz@dapsang:~/lilypond/ly]$ echo $GS_LIB
/users/rz/usr/lily-current/share/lilypond//ps/
[rz@dapsang:~/lilypond/ly]$ ls $GS_LIB
lilyponddefs.ps  music-drawing-routines.ps
[rz@dapsang:~/lilypond/ly]$ 


The docu doesn't mention anything about this - perhaps an update would
be nice (Werner?)...

What can I do...? Linking from . to $GS_LIB is not nice...


-Rune

 



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multiple verses with different syllable rhythms

2002-11-01 Thread Paul Scott
Hi,

How does one cause the lyrics to skip a particular note value for one 
set of lyrics only?  The lyrics are written above each other as they 
would be in standard sheet music for a popular song or a hymnal.

For example if the melody has two quarter notes which correspond to one 
syllable in one verse but to two syllables in the next verse the first 
verse will move the next syllable to the second quarter note and offset 
incorrectly the whole first verse.

AFAICT double underscore doesn't do what I need.

TIA,

Paul Scott



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Re: Two Problems with a SATB-Choir Score

2002-11-01 Thread Ronald Hoellwarth
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:08:19PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:00:15 +0100
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald Hoellwarth) wrote:
 
  1. I've a SATB-Score and the first StaffGroup is indented but I want it
  to start at the left margin - like the rest of the Staffgroups.
 
 I think that's:
 \paper{indent=0.0\cm}

Thanks. That did it. I knew it should be easy, but without an idea what
causes the indent I had no clue where to look for help :-)

  2. To indicate which voice should be the one with the leading melody
  there are small arrows point diagonal from top left to right bottom
  (soprano, tenor) and from bottom left to top right (alto, bass)
  towards the first note-body that should be the melody. Can I create
  them too with lilypond? If yes: how?
 
 No idea, sorry.

Would it be possible to use some short inline-PostScript to create
the arrow and then position it?
(I don't know how to do this, but the docs mention something like this
under dirty tricks )

Any other ideas?
 
 Cheers,
 - Graham
 

greetings from crailsheim, germany
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Re: Two Problems with a SATB-Choir Score

2002-11-01 Thread Ronald Hoellwarth
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Ronald Hoellwarth wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 11:23:04AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
  Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I recommend that you upgrade to 1.6.x 
  
 
 Thanks. That helped. But now I'm facing another problem: I had some
 fermata in the score. With v1.4.12 I just had to do d4-\fermata on the
 soprano notes and e4-\fermata on the bass notes to get the fermata above
 the soprano-notes an below the bass-notes. 
 
 With the change to v.1.6.5 I didn't change the fermata but the one that
 used te be below the bass notes is now above the tenor-notes and is
 interfering with the stem of the tenoer-note. 
 

OK. replying to my own post is an indicator that I didn't try hard
enough - but the fermata-problem is solved:

d4_#'(music scripts-dfermata)

was the solution. Sorry for bothering. 

 Another question:
 
 I've the lyrics between the upper and the lower staff. There are 3
 verses and i added them with different stanzas. But there is a part (the
 refrain) that should be at the (vertically centerd) position of the
 second stanza and should have 1.-3. as prefix that should appear under
 the \bar || that separates the verses and the refrain 
 
 I tried 
 
 1.-3. Frie -- de 
 
 but then the piece in quotes gets centers under the note for Frie
 instead of getting the 1.-3. under the bar and only Frie under it's
 note.

The solution to this problem is still a riddle to me. Thanks in advance
for thinking about it.


greetings from crailsheim, germany
ronald höllwarth


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Re: multiple verses with different syllable rhythms

2002-11-01 Thread Ronald Hoellwarth
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:37:13AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

Hello Paul,
 Hi,
 
 How does one cause the lyrics to skip a particular note value for one 
 set of lyrics only?  The lyrics are written above each other as they 
 would be in standard sheet music for a popular song or a hymnal 
 
 For example if the melody has two quarter notes which correspond to one 
 syllable in one verse but to two syllables in the next verse the first 
 verse will move the next syllable to the second quarter note and offset 
 incorrectly the whole first verse 
 
 AFAICT double underscore doesn't do what I need 

Try   (i.e. a quoted blank) at the position where the syllable in the
other verse is.

 
 TIA,
 
 Paul Scott

greetings from crailsheim, germany
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Re: Two Problems with a SATB-Choir Score

2002-11-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:47:37 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald Hoellwarth) wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Ronald Hoellwarth wrote:
  Thanks. That helped. But now I'm facing another problem: I had some
  fermata in the score. With v1.4.12 I just had to do d4-\fermata on the
  soprano notes and e4-\fermata on the bass notes to get the fermata above
  the soprano-notes an below the bass-notes. 
 
 OK. replying to my own post is an indicator that I didn't try hard
 enough - but the fermata-problem is solved:
 
 d4_#'(music scripts-dfermata)

There's a better solution:
d4_\fermata
d4^\fermata

d4-\fermata  lets Lilypond choose whether it goes up or down.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Two Problems with a SATB-Choir Score

2002-11-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
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 I told lilypond that the soprano is \VoiceOne, alto \VoiceTwo, tenor
 \VoiceOne and bass \VoiceTwo and thought therefore it should (as v1.4.12
 did it) place the fermata on the right side of the Staffs.
 
 Was there a change between v1.4.12 and v1.6.5 in regard to the way it is
 considered where to place things like fermata?

It might be that I changed this.  IIRC, fermatas on rests tended to go
down, which looked silly.

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Re: Two Problems with a SATB-Choir Score

2002-11-01 Thread Ronald Hoellwarth
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:15:23PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:47:37 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald
 Hoellwarth) wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Ronald Hoellwarth wrote:
   Thanks. That helped. But now I'm facing another problem: I had some
   fermata in the score. With v1.4.12 I just had to do d4-\fermata on the
   soprano notes and e4-\fermata on the bass notes to get the fermata above
   the soprano-notes an below the bass-notes. 
  
  OK. replying to my own post is an indicator that I didn't try hard
  enough - but the fermata-problem is solved:
  
  d4_#'(music scripts-dfermata)
 
 There's a better solution:
 d4_\fermata
 d4^\fermata
 
 d4-\fermata  lets Lilypond choose whether it goes up or down.

Hello Graham,

Ah. That's by far simpler the my first stab. 

But: why did v1.4.12 choose to put the fermata on the bass part correctly
under the note but v1.6.5 choose (wrongy) to put the fermata above the
note into the realm of the tenor?

I told lilypond that the soprano is \VoiceOne, alto \VoiceTwo, tenor
\VoiceOne and bass \VoiceTwo and thought therefore it should (as v1.4.12
did it) place the fermata on the right side of the Staffs.

Was there a change between v1.4.12 and v1.6.5 in regard to the way it is
considered where to place things like fermata?

 
 Cheers,
 - Graham
 

greetings from crailsheim, germany
ronald höllwarth


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Re: PS failure with 1.6.6

2002-11-01 Thread Rune Zedeler
Mats Bengtsson wrote:


Set the environment variable KPATHSEA_DEBUG to '-1'
Run dvips on the .dvi file and pipe the standard error
output through 'grep music-drawing'. This should tell you
where the programs searches for the file.


I tried that.
It searches in $DATADIR/dvips whereas we only have the file located in 
$DATADIR/ps and $DATADIR/tex. Hence the problem can be solved by adding 
a symlink from ps to dvips.

I really don't understand much about theese things - so I don't know 
whether this behaviour is rational - i.e. whether the problem is in the 
lily setup or somewhere else.

-Rune



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