Re: Multi-measure rest width again

2003-04-01 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I've just submitted a patch to the CVS repository of the development
version that solves this problem.
   /Mats

Antonio PALAMA' wrote:
I'm still trying to increase the width of some specific multimeasure rests.
The instruction
\property  Staff.MultiMeasureRest \set (or \override) #'minimum-length = 
#100
has no effect.
I have to use the ugly hack (time 2/4):

s2 \bar R2*15 \bar  s2 |
\property Score.currentBarNumber = #RIGHT NO
to achieve some result.
I am using 1.6.6.
Is this a bug or a missing feature?
Am I ill-documented?
Is this issue going to be fixed in the developement version?
Thanks for your help,

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Shifting text markup and reharsal marks

2003-04-01 Thread Antonio PALAMA'
I understand that the official method to shift a text markup vertical is

\property Voice.TextScript \override #'padding = #N

I also seem to understand that the units used are the separation of 
staff lines
and that the instruction increases the minimum distance of the text to other
objects.

My question is:

Is there a method to specify an absolute vertical shift of the text in 
metric units e.g. \mm or \cm?
I there a method to specify horizontal shifts?

Thanks for your help,

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Re: Multi-measure rest width again

2003-04-01 Thread Antonio PALAMA'
Mats Bengtsson wrote:

I've just submitted a patch to the CVS repository of the development
version that solves this problem.
   /Mats


Thank you, will it be available in 1.6.X or have I ro wait until 1.8.0?

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Re: Shifting text markup and reharsal marks

2003-04-01 Thread Hans Forbrich
My understanding of padding is to ensure separation to the next object.

I frequently use extra-offset instead of padding to move text, and that gives
both horizontal and vertical.  Format is (from memory - horiz  vert might be
interchanged)

\property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'( horiz  . vert )

and I usually use the \once operator since the offset is usually for the next
markup only.  {Replace horiz and vert with numeric values in staff spaces.)   I
haven't tried whether the values can be 'real' or fractions, so far I've only
needed integer, but I can see fractions being required.

I personally think that would be a mistake to allow move/position by absolute
distances, since the score could be recast in any number of sizes (13, 16, 20
point, etc.)  The scaling factor of 'staff spaces' allows for appropriate
relative tracking.

HTH
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Ack: segno(and so..) and pre-release

2003-04-01 Thread Joerg Anders

Thank you all ...

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Simon G. P. Bailey wrote:

 On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 12:32, Joerg Anders wrote:
  Perhaps somebody could give a short answer to 6 questions:
 
 i've seen this form in orchestral waltzes. normally part 3 is then
 ...

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

 
 In baroque music, a fermata is often used to denote Fine. You often
 see this also at the end of pieces without any D.C or D.S, where

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:

 
 You need to know that after taking a D.S or D.C., repeat signs and
 first endings (alternatives) are ignored, and the 2nd ending is played, 

Ok, in my implementation this works if you set the coda sign before
the 1st ending ... Perhaps against the orthograhie but I think a
musician would understand this.

 unless there is a third.

... who likes it can test the LilyPond export of an interim variant at:

http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/note_pre/note_pre.html

As far as I can see LilyPond attaches the Segno, Dal Segno ... to a
note or rest. And here is the question: Repeat including or excluding this 
note?

There is still no documentation.
The Segno staff is the last point in Insert menu.
For correct replay please set the Segno, Dal Segno, Coda ... signs
in every staff, otherwise ... (don't know hat happens)


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Chord symbol spacing question

2003-04-01 Thread Amelie Zapf
Hi folks,

this question is probably related to the Shifting text markup...  thread. 
So here it goes:

Is there a possibility to insure that the chord symbols are properly spaced? 
When a line in the score gets crammed, something saying:

F+5/B Bbmaj7

easily mutates to:

F+5/BBbmaj7

which is ugly to read. Is there a way to _ensure_ that some spacing is 
provided between two chord symbols (maybe also a padding or extra-offset 
property)?

Kind regards,

Amy

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\mbinput is broken [Was: Re: nested lilypond-book files?]

2003-04-01 Thread Oscar A. Valdez
\include and \input are the standard LaTeX procedures to split a long
document into several .tex files. lilypond-book requires that the
commands be used as \mbinclude and \mbinput with Lilypond .ly files.

\mbinclude works as expected, and, like plain \include, does a
\clearpage before and after the included file. \mbinput, however, is
broken. lilypond-book crashes with the following output:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/lilypond-book, line 1540, in ?
do_file(input_filename)
  File /usr/bin/lilypond-book, line 1424, in do_file
chunks = read_doc_file(input_filename)
  File /usr/bin/lilypond-book, line 1007, in read_doc_file
chunks = chop_chunks(chunks, 'input', do_input_file, 1)
  File /usr/bin/lilypond-book, line 953, in chop_chunks
newchunks = newchunks + func(m)
  File /usr/bin/lilypond-book, line 880, in do_input_file
return read_doc_file(m.group('filename'))
IndexError: no such group

Is this a known bug, or is there something wrong with my installation? I
need to use \mbinput, because I don't want the \clearpages inserted by
\mbinclude.

Oscar A. Valdez




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Re: segno (and so ...)

2003-04-01 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Monday 31 March 2003 09:06 pm, Paul Scott wrote:
 David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
 On Monday 31 March 2003 05:32 am, Joerg Anders wrote:
 Hi all!
 Some users requested LilyPond export of segno, dal segno ... in
 NoteEdit. I've problems to understand the system. (I never was
 at music school) Maybe it is too easy ;-) Note! I have to
 implement the replay!

 An illegal workaround is to have a 1.3. alt and a 2.4. alt.  
  Another is D.C. with repeat.

 I don't know why you would call it an illegal workaround.

It's fairly new, that's all.  And I certainly concede that the fermata
instead of fine is legal, but I have never seen it and I think
that most would not understand it.

Maybe it's more helpful to list what would be totally understood
today and might serve as a minimum acceptable
implementation.

D.C,, D.S,, the coda sign, and fine will be adequate for
almost everything.  The coda may appear as an
alternative ending instead of as part3 at the end.

part1 codasignwithvoltabracket coda  fine part2  D.C.

or

part1 codasign part2 D.C. codasign coda

are both played:

part1 part2 part1 coda 

The former might be preferred if the coda were only a
few measures long.

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Re: Ack: segno(and so..) and pre-release

2003-04-01 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 12:49 pm, Joerg Anders wrote:
 Thank you all ...

 On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Simon G. P. Bailey wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 12:32, Joerg Anders wrote:
   Perhaps somebody could give a short answer to 6 questions:
 
  i've seen this form in orchestral waltzes. normally part 3 is then

  ...

 On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
  In baroque music, a fermata is often used to denote Fine. You often
  see this also at the end of pieces without any D.C or D.S, where

 On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
  You need to know that after taking a D.S or D.C., repeat signs and
  first endings (alternatives) are ignored, and the 2nd ending is
  played,

 Ok, in my implementation this works if you set the coda sign before
 the 1st ending ... Perhaps against the orthograhie but I think a
 musician would understand this.

  unless there is a third.

 ... who likes it can test the LilyPond export of an interim variant
 at:

 http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/note_pre/note_pre.html

 As far as I can see LilyPond attaches the Segno, Dal Segno ... to a
 note or rest. And here is the question: Repeat including or excluding
 this note?

Including.  It relates to a bartype anyway, not a note or rest. It 
could even be text following the music on the same line.

blah blah || D.S.

but it's almost always underneath a single stave or between
staves just before the next bartype.

if a D.S. did not coincide with a bartype near it, it would have
to refer to another double bar near it.  I have seen
that only once, and it's not pretty.

 There is still no documentation.
 The Segno staff is the last point in Insert menu.
 For correct replay please set the Segno, Dal Segno, Coda ... signs
 in every staff, otherwise ... (don't know hat happens)

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Very Urgent

2003-04-01 Thread Mrs S. A William
Dear Sir, 

It is my great pleasure get intouch with you this great minute. My name is 
Mrs S. A William and I am married to Late Dr S. A 
William who died last three months. I saw your contact in one of my late 
husband's files. And contacting you is concerning 
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However, my late husband has a partner in your country in person of Mr 
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Roman numerals in figured bass; also, TEXMF and TEXMFCNF behavior

2003-04-01 Thread Tommaso Toffoli

 Lilypond is wonderful, and its body plan is just right. Thanks.
I have two questions.

1. Lilypond has limited support for figured bass in the traditional
form of columns of digits indicating intervals relative to the bass note.
Today, for both pedagogical and practical reasons, it is common
to esplicitly give, besides those numbers, a Roman numeral
(sometimes in upper or lower case for, resepctively, major and minor)
indicating the chord root, such as

 7   6
I   V   V   V4

This kind of figured bass, appearing below the staff, is distinct from the so
called chord notation such as

FdimF7  Cmin

etc. Is there a way in lilypond to notate these Roman
numerals in the  figured bass?


2. I use the kpathsea method of organizing TeX fonts. Specifically, beside the
system texmf tree in /usr/share I use a standard-structure texmf tree for the
user, called ~/.texmf, where I store user-defined fonts.

When I installed lilypond I couldn't get its fonts to appear until I ran the
lilypond.sh script in /etc/profile.d. After that lilypond worked right,
but my user fonts had become unaccessible. To get them back,
I had to do some searching. I finally changed the lilypond-generated export

  echo $TEMF
 
{/usr/share/lilypond/1.6.6,{!!/home/tt/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf}}

 to

  echo $TEXMF
  
{/usr/share/lilypond/1.6.6,{!!/home/tt/.texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf}}

 (note the change /home/tt/texmf -- /home/tt/.texmf). I do not understand
this TEXMF story and its stepping over TEXMFCNF. (By the way, when is the
script lilypond.sh automatically executed if I leave it in /etc/profile.d?)

Do you have any suggestions how to do this right, and can you give the
installer a few more words of explanations? I'm afraid many potential
users may be turned off by this first difficulty and never come back.

Many many thanks.

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StemTremolo too short

2003-04-01 Thread John Williams
This is a relatively minor nit, but I'm doing some 32nd note tremolos
(d2:32).  The downward stems look fine, but the upward stems look a
little too short.  The bottom tremolo stripe collides with the note head.

Does anyone know of a way to fix this?

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Re: Shifting text markup and reharsal marks

2003-04-01 Thread Antonio Palama
Hans Forbrich wrote:

My understanding of padding is to ensure separation to the next object.

I frequently use extra-offset instead of padding to move text, and that gives
both horizontal and vertical.  Format is (from memory - horiz  vert might be
interchanged)
   \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'( horiz  . vert )

and I usually use the \once operator since the offset is usually for the next
markup only.  {Replace horiz and vert with numeric values in staff spaces.)   I
haven't tried whether the values can be 'real' or fractions, so far I've only
needed integer, but I can see fractions being required.
I personally think that would be a mistake to allow move/position by absolute
distances, since the score could be recast in any number of sizes (13, 16, 20
point, etc.)  The scaling factor of 'staff spaces' allows for appropriate
relative tracking.
HTH
/Hans
 

Thank you; this is exactly what I was looking for; will try it tonight.
I agree that absolute distances are not the proper way to handle
this problem but until now, the only way I found to do offsets was
the LaTeX hack:
c4^\\hspace{5mm} Allegro
or something similar.
Does the  instruction you give modify the offset of rehearsal marks too or
have I to use a diffent property like Voice.RehearsalMark or something
similar?
Thanks again,

Antonio



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