Re: Tempo change in Midi file

2005-10-25 Thread Neil Killeen

Mats

I have waded back through the archives on this issue.  There appear to
be two basic statements of truth :

1) Many people commented that *only* midi files produced by Lilypond
   had this problem.  This has been my experience too, that I can happily
   play tempo-changing MIDI files from other programs ( I installed
   4 different MIDI players as well as Quicktime and Realplayer and none
   of them picked up the tempo changes).

2) Nigel Warner made an analysis - see
  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-10/msg00286.html

  where he found that the tempo changes were not in track 0 (the conductor
   track) where he asserted they should be (his argument made good sense to 
me).


  You commented that it was you who had removed the tempo changes from 
track 0

  as you endeavoured  to provide other functionality; see
  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-10/msg00296.html

  However,  no fix appears to have ever been made and this bug remains.


I do find MIDI files very useful.  When I write some music, these
are my first real chance to hear how it sounds as a whole, despite
the limitations of MIDI so I would be greatful if some small effort
could go into fixing this.

regards
Neil




From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Neil Killeen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tempo change in Midi file
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:55:48 +0200

I think there was an insightful email in the mailing lists a couple of
years ago that explained that the current solution of handling MIDI
tempo changes will only work with certain MIDI players but not
with all. I just tried to listen to your example using kmidi (which
internally uses timidity, a software-only MIDI interpreter) and it
certainly plays the correct tempo changes, but it may fail for your
combination of sound card and software.

  /Mats

Neil Killeen wrote:


Hello


according to the mail archives, I should just insert a \tempo directive
whenever I want to change the tempo (I think this should be in the
manual).


1) For multiple staff music, should I insert just one
   set of markings for one of the staves (does it matter
   which one) or should they all have a (redundant)
   tempo marking ?


2) Regardless, this does not seem to function.  Here is a little bit of 
test   music.


sopNotes = {
   \relative c' {
  \tempo 4=100
  e2 e2 e2 e2  e2 e2 e2 e2
  \tempo 4=50
  e2 e2 e2 e2  e2 e2 e2 e2
}
}
%
mezNotes = {
   \relative c' {
  \tempo 4=100
  c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2
  \tempo 4=50
  c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2 c2
}
}

\score {
\new ChoirStaff

 \new Staff  { \context Voice = sop { \sopNotes } }
%
 \new Staff { \context Voice = mez { \mezNotes } }
%




\layout {}
\midi {}
}


The resultant midi file (attached)  does not change tempo.  It makes no
difference whether I use one staff or two (and also if I
use one staff and drop the \new ChoirStaff syntax it also
does not work).

I am using V 2.6.3-1 on a Mac Powerbook


regards
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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:

 I didn't notice any problems!

 Ok.  I tested my newly released Cygwin 2.6.4 and that works fine too.

Waitaminute.  Did you install the -upgrade exe?  If so, could you
uininstall and test the full version (the support libraries were
rebuilt, that may have introduced a problem)?

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Re: Including artwork

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Your example works without problem here, both with version 2.6.4 and
2.7.12. Note that the box is placed at the left edge of the paper.
Do you get any warnings or errors?

  /Mats

Luís Marques wrote:


On 10/24/05, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


If you want it before the score, just put it before the \score{...}
in the input file. It works exactly the same way as if you want
several scores in the same file, just put the corresponding \score{...}
blocks after eachother.
   



Thing is, that didn't work. I'm trying with the eps file from the
regression test
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/input/regression/out-www/lily-390576225.ly

The lilypond file goes in attachment. The markup block is before the
score. The box isn't drawn though. Other methods worked, so the file
path and such must be right.

Luís Marques
 




\version 2.6.3

\header
{
 title = Blue-Bells of Scotland
}

one = \relative
{
 \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
 \key g \major
 \partial 4

 d g2 fis4 e d2 e4 fis8( g8) r1 r2 r4 d g2 fis4 e \break
 d2 e4 fis8( g8) r1 r2 r4 d r2 r4 d g2 e4 fis8( g8) \break
 fis4 d e r r2 e4 fis g2 fis4 e d2 e4 fis8( g8) r1 r2 r4
}

two =  \relative
{
 \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
 \clef bass
 \key g \major
 \partial 4

 r4 r1 r1 b4 b c a g2. r4 r1  \break
 r1 b4 b c a g2. r4 b4 g b r r1 r2 r4 cis4 d2 r2 r1 r1 b4 b c a g2.
}

\markup
{
\epsfile #box.eps
}

\score
{

 \new Staff \one
 \new Staff \two
 


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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

 I didn't notice any problems!

Ok.  I tested my newly released Cygwin 2.6.4 and that works fine too.

Maybe it's just a coincidence.  Seems like we need people to ask to
run LILYPOND_VERBOSE=1 again (without typo's).

Jan.

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Re: creating .deb files

2005-10-25 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 07.21, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
 i don't know if i should send this here or do lilypond-dev, but i'll send
 here first.

Look at the recent lilypond-devel archives.  Two people have independently 
managed to build debs recently: Gauvain Pocentek (ubuntu) and Thomas Bushnell 
(debian, search for subject a new lilypond build failure).

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Re: Fink's Lilypond 2.6.3 and tex backend

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christian Ebert on Friday, October 21, 2005:
 * Mats Bengtsson on Tuesday, October 18, 2005:
 Version 2.6 and later has much better support for other fonts.
 
 I am experimenting now with 2.6.3 from the MacOS disk image (even
 though I'd prefer to compile myself w/o gui but I can't get 2.6.4
 to compile at the moment).
 
 But: 
 
 $ lilypond-book -Flatex -oOut/ lilbook.tex
 lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.3
 Reading lilbook.tex...
 Dissecting...
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
 /Users/chris/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond-book,
  line 1616, in ?
 main ()
   File 
 /Users/chris/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond-book,
  line 1582, in main
 chunks = do_file (file)
   File 
 /Users/chris/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond-book,
  line 1470, in do_file
 [c.filter_text () for c in chunks])
   File 
 /Users/chris/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond-book,
  line 970, in filter_text
 code = self.substring ('code')
   File 
 /Users/chris/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond-book,
  line 714, in substring
 return self.match.group (s)
 IndexError: no such group

Any ideas concerning the above?

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Re: [Tom Hollander] Re: Tekst problemen

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Tom Hollander writes:

 Ik gebruik versie 2.6.4 in Windows XP. Ik had enkele maander terug een
 andere versie gebruikt, maar die werkte wel goed. Ik weet niet meer
 precies welke versie dat was.

Dan moet je zien te vinden wat er mis gaat.

Open een DOS command prompt, type

set LILYPOND_VERBOSE=1
copy \Program Files\LilyPond\usr\share\doc\lilypond\input\les-nereides.ly
\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond les-nereides 2log.txt

en kijk in log.txt of je dat iets vertelt.  Anders stuur log.txt naar
lilypond-user@gnu.org .

En zou je alsjeblieft de mailinglijst willen gebruiken?

--

   I'm using 2.6.4 in Windows XP.  A previous version worked fine.

Then you'll have to figure out what goes wrong.

Open a DOS command prompt, type

set LILYPOND_VERBOSE=1
copy \Program Files\LilyPond\usr\share\doc\lilypond\input\les-nereides.ly
\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond les-nereides 2log.txt

look in log.txt for some clues.  If you see nothing that helps, send log.txt
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And would you please use the mailing list?

Jan.

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Re: creating .deb files

2005-10-25 Thread Gilles
Hello.

 I forgot to mention that there are also a number of files in the debian 
 directory that may be important, but I don't know where to begin making 
 changes:
 
 [...]
 

I think that you can stop worrying about that (unless you really want to
learn about the debian packagement process), as the debian maintainer has
now released version 2.6.3 (that has been on hold for along time because
of a bug in another software: mftrace).

Unfortunately, the newly arrived package has a problem that makes it
impossible to install :-{.  See
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=335678


Best,
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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I did use the full installation, not only the upgrade, but I didn't remove
the previous installation first.

Trying Uninstall + Install of mingw LilyPond 2.6.4 is unfortunately much
less successful. Double clicking on a .ly file or dragdrop onto the 
LilyPond
icon doesn't produce anything. When I go back to version 2.6.3, it works 
fine.

One problem is that I've never been able to run mingw LilyPond from any kind
of command line, neither with version 2.6.3 or 2.6.4 or earlier versions.
lilypond -h
does give a normal response but if I try anything else, it just 
complains about

unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

When I set LILYPOND_VERBOSE=1 at the command prompt and run
lilypond -h, I get a number of warning printouts about missing files and
directories, but these are exactly the same both for 2.6.3 and 2.6.4.

I finally tried to install 2.6.4 on top of 2.6.3, which seems to work well
and all fonts are found as usual.

   /Mats

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:


Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:

 


I didn't notice any problems!
 


Ok.  I tested my newly released Cygwin 2.6.4 and that works fine too.
   



Waitaminute.  Did you install the -upgrade exe?  If so, could you
uininstall and test the full version (the support libraries were
rebuilt, that may have introduced a problem)?

Jan.

 



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Re: Including artwork

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Weird! I just tried your file on WinXP using 2.6.4 (installed on top of
2.6.3, since it didn't seem to work otherwise, see another on-going mail
discussion) and the resulting PDF can be found at
http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe/Blue-Bells.pdf

(Yes, I did produce the box.eps file in Windows too)

  /Mats

luismarques83 wrote:


I just upgraded to 2.6.4. Unless I'm pretty blind I don't think it is printing 
the box.
The PDF goes in attachment (I hope it's not inconvenient, it's not very big)

# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `D:/pers/music'
Processing `D:/pers/music/Blue-Bells of Scotland.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects... 
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15]

Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `Blue-Bells of Scotland.ps'...
Converting to `Blue-Bells of Scotland.pdf'...

Maybe it only works under UNIX? Right now I can't try that, maybe later.

Thanks,
Luís

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 10/25/2005 9:49 AM
To: luismarques83
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org; Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Subject: Re: Including artwork

Your example works without problem here, both with version 2.6.4 and
2.7.12. Note that the box is placed at the left edge of the paper.
Do you get any warnings or errors?
 



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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I just realized that I could run lilypond from the Cygwin command
line if I added the path to the mingw version to PATH. Then I could
also see the error message when running 2.6.4 (installed without a
previous install of 2.6.3). It's:

lilypond testfile.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.6.4
ERROR: In procedure dynamic-link:
ERROR: file: libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-2, message: can't open the module

  /Mats

Mats Bengtsson wrote:

I did use the full installation, not only the upgrade, but I didn't 
remove

the previous installation first.

Trying Uninstall + Install of mingw LilyPond 2.6.4 is unfortunately much
less successful. Double clicking on a .ly file or dragdrop onto the 
LilyPond
icon doesn't produce anything. When I go back to version 2.6.3, it 
works fine.
One problem is that I've never been able to run mingw LilyPond from 
any kind

of command line, neither with version 2.6.3 or 2.6.4 or earlier versions.
lilypond -h
does give a normal response but if I try anything else, it just 
complains about

unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

When I set LILYPOND_VERBOSE=1 at the command prompt and run
lilypond -h, I get a number of warning printouts about missing files and
directories, but these are exactly the same both for 2.6.3 and 2.6.4.

I finally tried to install 2.6.4 on top of 2.6.3, which seems to work 
well

and all fonts are found as usual.

   /Mats

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:


Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:

 


I didn't notice any problems!



Ok.  I tested my newly released Cygwin 2.6.4 and that works fine too.
  



Waitaminute.  Did you install the -upgrade exe?  If so, could you
uininstall and test the full version (the support libraries were
rebuilt, that may have introduced a problem)?

Jan.

 





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Tempo marking within a string and object moving

2005-10-25 Thread Neil Killeen

Hi again

I have the notes under control, so now I want to do the hard part,  annotate 
my music :-)


The very first thing I want to do is proving difficult !

I have a layout like this, with 4 staves.  The music begins with rests for 
all parts but the cello.


|
   With determination (o = 100)
Sopr1
Mezr1
Alt r1
Cello  notes


I want to write the expression and tempo marking as indicated above.
The words need to start before the rest symbols are printed (sop/mez/alt)

I wanted to use the \tempo directive, as I will use that elsewhere in
the piece, but I failed to get that to embed in the markup.

My solution seems overly  complicated for such a basic (and common) thing. 
In the

soprano line I put :

 r1^\markup { \hspace #-3.0 With Determination  ( \raise # 0.5 { \note #2 
#1.0 }=100) }



Comments:

1) the \hspace is to push the text to the left of the first rest
2) The \raise is to get the note-head to align so that the bottom of the 
note
   aligns with the bottom of the 100 (in the same way as in the \tempo 
command)
3) The note head size is larger than that which comes out with the \tempo 
command


Is there an easier way to do this ? Can i embed \tempo in the \markup 
somehow

so that at least I get consistent note sizes ?





I also wanted to explore how to move text around and eventually found the
padding and extra-offset properties.

The manual gives examples (Sec 4.3)

  \once \override TextScript #'padding = #1.5

and

  \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( 1.0 . -1.0 )


The # syntax appears to be when a command or property takes an argument
(of any type; string, integer, float etc).

Could someone please explain the syntax involving the ' (comma)  marks ?  
Padding has
one comma  and extra-offset has two.There are no comma marks in the 
markup
commands, why are they in these ones ?  I also find the period in the  
middle of the ( 1.0 . -1.0) strange and I didn't even see  it at first (and 
wondered why it wasn't working).


Anyway, using the extra-offset ( I couldn't get padding to work) I rewrote 
my expression

above (and added a vertical shift) as :

  \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( -3.0 . 2.0 )
  r1^\markup { With Passion ( \raise # 0.5 { \note #4 #1.0 }=100) }

which is still quite complicated.  Is there  a simpler way to move things 
about or is this the one true way ?




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Re: Co-sponsorship: repeated ties for second endings

2005-10-25 Thread Peter Mogensen
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
 
 Hello everybody!
 
 In the last weeks, there has been talk on repeating ties in second
 endings of repeats automatically. This is a sponsorship under the Small
 feature  regime, so I would like to put it up for 130 EUR (incl VAT for
 EU).  Peter Mogensen already agreed to put forth 65 EUR of this amount,
 so we're still short of another 65.
 
 Is anyone else interested in sponsoring the other 65 EUR?
 
 
 (If it's easy to do, I'll try to squeeze in repeated slurs as well)

Just a small post to serve two purposes:

1) To say that I just had the need for handling ties _out_ of repeats.
That is... when the 1st ending ends with a tie to the very first note in
the repeat-block. And to ask Han-Wen if that use case would be
considered a part of the tie/volta problem?

2) To draw some more attention to the cause so we can get it
implemented. There must be more people out there who struggles with ties
in and out of repeat structures :)

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Re: Font problem

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you tried. If I understand you
correctly, the problems you reported first with missing font symbols
for text fonts, was when you tried the Cygwin installation. Right?

Then, you tried the non-cygwin version and got the error message
you included below, right?
To me, the error message below seems to say that the program found
a font file that didn't contain any characters, so it may very well be
related to the problems you had with the Cygwin version. I don't
know any details on how the font lookup works, so I hope someone
else on the mailing list can help with the debugging. At least, I haven't
seen any report of similar problem before.

   /Mats

Maxime Brugidou wrote:


Mats Bengtsson a écrit :


You didn't say earlier that you used the Cygwin installation.
I would recommend the non-Cygwin native Windows package
available at lilypond.org/web/install/, unless you have any specific
reason to work in Cygwin.

  /Mats



I wrote :
Hello
i installed lilypond with cygwin on my winXP and are now able to use 
lilypond


but ok, i'm trying to use it the non-cygwin package, but i got an error :
Pange-ERROR **: file 
/var/fred/cvs/savannah/lilypond/installers/windows/mingw/src/pango-1.8.1-1/pango/shape.c: 
line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed (glyphs-num_glyphs  0)

aborting ...

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Re: Lyrics, ties, extenders and hyphens

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I don't have any book on music typesetting practice available
in front of me right now, but will try some advanced guesses
anyway.

Neil Killeen wrote:


Hi

1) what is the correct thing to do with a lyric and a tie ?
   Should one use an extender like with a melisma ?  Thus

   a~ a
   Fish __

  Lilypond seems tolerant if I don't add the extender

  a~ a
  Fish


I would only use extender lines for melismas, not for ties.



2) Also, I am finding extenders and hyphens get mixed up if I do   
extend ties.


   E.g.

   a1~ | a1  | es1~ | es1
   Moun __ -- tains

  What I see after type setting is something like

/--\ /---\
o  o   oo
   _ _   - First hyphen 
overlaps with extender

   Moun__   tains_

I think it's normal to only use hyphens in such a situation and no 
extender lines.





3) Finally, on a matter of style of lyrics and punctuation. Is it good 
style to

   see punctuation (e.g. a full stop or comma) before an extender ?
   E.g.

   a~ a
   Fish. __

   If not, what should one do ?   Leave out the punctuation or try and
   poke it in after the extender somehow ?


The punctuation before the extender seems reasonable.

  /Mats


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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

 I just realized that I could run lilypond from the Cygwin command
 line if I added the path to the mingw version to PATH. Then I could
 also see the error message when running 2.6.4 (installed without a
 previous install of 2.6.3). It's:

  lilypond testfile.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.6.4
 ERROR: In procedure dynamic-link:
 ERROR: file: libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-2, message: can't open the module

Ok, thanks a lot.  Argh, this was a Cygwin bugfix, but only half of it
got into mingw.  I'll pull 2.6.4 for now.

Jan.

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Re: Letter page length too long

2005-10-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Just open the PDF file in Acrobat and check the page size
(File - Document properties). For letter size scores, it should
say 8.50 x 11.0 inch (at least if you configured Acrobat to use
inch). If that's OK, check the Print setup in Acrobat and make sure
that it doesn't try to print on A4 and scale the output to fit.

Also, run lilypond with the --verbose flag and check out that the
call to gs at the end includes a flag -sPAPERSIZE=letter.


  /Mats

Michael Haynie wrote:

I am using the app version (I'm unable to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.4 for 
other reasons, so can't use the newest fink, either), so dvips is not 
involved.


I set the vsize in the paper block, and was able to control the length 
of the page, so I have a reasonable work around for the basic problem.


However, I'm now convinced that I'm seeing a real bug (though nearly 
trivial to fix)-- the paper size for letter doesn't account for the 
required machine borders (typically 1/2 at each margin, for a total 
reduction of 1).  This might also be true for other paper sizes -- 
but I'm unable to test those.  I looked around in the ly sources for a 
set of paper definitions, but didn't find anything.  Does anyone know 
where the dimensions for e.g. letter paper are set?  I'd guess that 5 
minutes with a ruler and that file would allow me to determine the 
most likely wrong dimension (vsize, at a guess).


thanks.

On Oct 23, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote:


On Sunday 23 October 2005 09.02, Graham Percival wrote:


On 22-Oct-05, at 9:39 PM, Michael Haynie wrote:


I've noticed that Lilypond consistently produces pages that are
roughly 1/2 a line too long, with the result that my footer line is
cut off.



It's not actually lilypond; it's dvips.



No, it can't be dvips. Since 2.6, lily doesn't go via tex/dvi, so 
dvips is
never invoked. The .ps file is created directly, so this must be a 
problem

specific to lily.

I don't know anything about letter size papers, since I only have 
used a4
myself. But IIRC, there is an example in regression tests, which 
demonstrates

how page sizes can be completely customised.

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Re: Including artwork

2005-10-25 Thread Luís Marques
Could you please also provide your eps file?
I also used 2.6.3 - 2.6.4 upgrade, so the only missing element to
check is the eps.
Strange stuff!

On 10/25/05, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Weird! I just tried your file on WinXP using 2.6.4 (installed on top of
 2.6.3, since it didn't seem to work otherwise, see another on-going mail
 discussion) and the resulting PDF can be found at
 http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe/Blue-Bells.pdf

 (Yes, I did produce the box.eps file in Windows too)


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keeping in step

2005-10-25 Thread Aaron Mehl
I guess this question would be better on the devel
list, but I am not subscribed to it.

Denemo is looking for some automated way to keep
instep with lilypond development.

currently cvs is up to 2.6 but for denemo to be truely
useful it needs to keep pace with lilypond.

What we want to do is a python(?) script that will
keep track of lilypond syntax changes on a regular
basis.

What is the best way to accomplish this? is the /ly
directory the place to monitor or is there a better
way.

Thanks
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Re: keeping in step

2005-10-25 Thread Pedro Kröger
Aaron Mehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What we want to do is a python(?) script that will
 keep track of lilypond syntax changes on a regular
 basis.

 What is the best way to accomplish this? is the /ly
 directory the place to monitor or is there a better
 way.

I suppose you could monitor the convert-ly script in scripts, but I
think that the best way would be to monitor lily/parser.yy (using the
output generated by bison -v). This thread may give you some ideas:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/7431

Cheers,

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Running Lilypond through jEdit in Windows

2005-10-25 Thread Eduardo Vieira



Hello friends,

I have installed jEdit with Lilypond Tools in 
Windows ME. Besides that, I have installed the native version for Windows (not 
Cygwin) of Lilypond 2.6.3. How can I run Lilypond from its menu in jEdit? Is it 
possible I tried configuring the plugin giving the right path for lilypond.exe, 
but didn't work. It gave me this message:
This is a console shell for running LilyPond and 
related commands.

"You can use %buffer to substitute the current 
buffer's path.

LilyPond ready.

lilypond /cygdrive/C/musark/ode.ly

C:\Arquivos de 
programas\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond.exe: unrecognized option: 
`--login'

LilyPond ready."


Cheers,

Eduardo
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Re: keeping in step

2005-10-25 Thread Hans Aberg


On 25 Oct 2005, at 20:24, Aaron Mehl wrote:


... looking for some automated way to keep
instep with lilypond development.

...

What we want to do is a python(?) script that will
keep track of lilypond syntax changes on a regular
basis.


Bison has (or had) daily CVS snapshots. Such a snapshot could perhaps  
be extended as to only make a daily snapshot if there has been a file  
alteration.


  Hans Aberg




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Re: Running Lilypond through jEdit in Windows

2005-10-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Yes, you're really right. I still not have uploaded the new, 2.6.x 
compatible LilyPondTool to the jEdit plugin central.

I promise that on Thursday I will do that.

Until that you can download manually:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lily4jedit/lily4jedit-0.2.8-6.zip?download
Unzip its contents into c:\jedit\jars (assuming you have installed jedit 
to c:\jedit)


Do the same with
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lily4jedit/lilyjhelp-2.6.0-1.zip?download

I hope that will be enough.

Bert


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Re: Letter page length too long

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Haynie
OK -- I verified that -sPAPERSIZE=letter is appearing on the gs line, 
and Acrobat reader reports 8.5x11, as I mentioned  previously. Printing 
A4 on Letter with scaling results in wider margins at the right and 
left, since a4 is longer than letter.  This is default behavior on Mac 
OS.  Not scaling cuts off much more than half a line of text.


So -- back to my theory -- there is probably a collection of paper 
dimensions in the sources somewhere, and one of them is wrong.  Where 
should I look?


On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:


Just open the PDF file in Acrobat and check the page size
(File - Document properties). For letter size scores, it should
say 8.50 x 11.0 inch (at least if you configured Acrobat to use
inch). If that's OK, check the Print setup in Acrobat and make sure
that it doesn't try to print on A4 and scale the output to fit.

Also, run lilypond with the --verbose flag and check out that the
call to gs at the end includes a flag -sPAPERSIZE=letter.


  /Mats

Michael Haynie wrote:

I am using the app version (I'm unable to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.4 
for other reasons, so can't use the newest fink, either), so dvips is 
not involved.


I set the vsize in the paper block, and was able to control the 
length of the page, so I have a reasonable work around for the basic 
problem.


However, I'm now convinced that I'm seeing a real bug (though nearly 
trivial to fix)-- the paper size for letter doesn't account for the 
required machine borders (typically 1/2 at each margin, for a total 
reduction of 1).  This might also be true for other paper sizes -- 
but I'm unable to test those.  I looked around in the ly sources for 
a set of paper definitions, but didn't find anything.  Does anyone 
know where the dimensions for e.g. letter paper are set?  I'd guess 
that 5 minutes with a ruler and that file would allow me to determine 
the most likely wrong dimension (vsize, at a guess).


thanks.

On Oct 23, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote:


On Sunday 23 October 2005 09.02, Graham Percival wrote:


On 22-Oct-05, at 9:39 PM, Michael Haynie wrote:


I've noticed that Lilypond consistently produces pages that are
roughly 1/2 a line too long, with the result that my footer line is
cut off.



It's not actually lilypond; it's dvips.



No, it can't be dvips. Since 2.6, lily doesn't go via tex/dvi, so 
dvips is
never invoked. The .ps file is created directly, so this must be a 
problem

specific to lily.

I don't know anything about letter size papers, since I only have 
used a4
myself. But IIRC, there is an example in regression tests, which 
demonstrates

how page sizes can be completely customised.

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Re: Letter page length too long

2005-10-25 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 01.00, Michael Haynie wrote:
 OK -- I verified that -sPAPERSIZE=letter is appearing on the gs line,
 and Acrobat reader reports 8.5x11, as I mentioned  previously. Printing
 A4 on Letter with scaling results in wider margins at the right and
 left, since a4 is longer than letter.  This is default behavior on Mac
 OS.  Not scaling cuts off much more than half a line of text.

 So -- back to my theory -- there is probably a collection of paper
 dimensions in the sources somewhere, and one of them is wrong.  Where
 should I look?

You can try
grep a4 scm/*.scm
in the source tree

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2.6.4 with autopackage

2005-10-25 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hi,

just having fetched the lilypond-2.6.4.x86.package 
I get the following problem:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./lilypond-2.6.4.x86.package 
Verifing archive integrity failed
Error in MD5 sums: 80670e72a905f2b3b61b6995ceb0d6f2
 is different from 8685940ef6efe7d83c658ed7cfe873bb

Please can me somebody tell what to do now?
My system is debian sarge 3.1.

Thanks in advance and Best Regards   Roland


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