Re: Engraved 'look'

2006-03-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Leo Trottier wrote:

Apologies if this has already been debated/discussed extensively, but ...

... in my experience with (beautiful) Barenreiter editions a quality that I feel
most striking is the 'old-fashioned' look  -- there are seldom razor sharp
staff-lines (as tend to be produced by laser printers).  Instead, it seems,
minute variations ('imperfections') in print add a warmth ... and it's this
warmth that I feel is most lacking in lilypond output.  


Wouldn't it be fairly easy add an 'soft/irregular edge' command to the
typesetting system?


no, but you can use a cheap inkjet if you like the effect :)

--
 Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: [OT] More mail problems!

2006-03-04 Thread Robert T Wyatt

Are these in the order you received them?

Gilles wrote:

Now I get postings in 2, 3, 4, 5 and up to 6 copies!  The
duplication happens on lists.gnu.org as shown here below
[In the following excerpts, the same mail id (1FDfSF-0006PI-0B)
has produced 6 different messages]:

--- Copy 1 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:23:38 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 1 ---

--- Copy 2 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:37:03 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 2 ---

--- Copy 3 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:49:42 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 3 ---

--- Copy 4 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:22:17 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 4 ---

--- Copy 5 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:03:18 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 5 ---

--- Copy 6 ---
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:47:19 -0500
for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:18:11 -0500
--- Copy 6 ---




___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


bug mailing list

2006-03-04 Thread Andrzej Kopec
Is is there any problem with bug-lilypond mailing list?
I posted a few messages during last days, but with no response.

BTW, is there place where lilypond bugs are listed?

/ak/


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


NaN?

2006-03-04 Thread Andrzej Kopec
what means this output from lily:

...
Preprocessing graphical objects... 
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][18][21][24][27][30][33][35]
programming error: Inf or NaN encountered
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Inf or NaN encountered
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Inf or NaN encountered
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Inf or NaN encountered
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Inf or NaN encountered
continuing, cross fingers
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `jp2-coro-main-27.ps'...
$

is it dangerous?

/ak/


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Fw: [almost OT] Music score with RTL lyrics

2006-03-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG

This ongoing discussion on the unicode list might be of interest for
some of you, especially the remark how to use the maqaf character
instead of a hyphen between Hebrew syllables.


Werner
---BeginMessage---

Andreas Prilop wrote:


What happens with the five special glyphs used normally only
at the end of a word? Are they also used at the end of a syllable
when a word is broken up?

In Hebrew, most definitely not. As a native speaker, a final letter at the end 
of a (not last) syllable would probably confuse me, leading me to think that's 
the end of the word. (Of course, that's not my only way of determining a word's 
ending, since only a handful of Hebrew letters have final forms.) You should 
probably follow the example[1] of the lyrics I've posted in my previous message 
and put a HEBREW PUNCTUATION MAQAF after every syllable which is not the final 
syllable. The MAQAF should go to the left of the syllable (that is, in the 
regular RTL order). In English lyrics, the HYPHEN might take a similar function.

Obviously, you should use a final letter in the last syllable of a word, just 
as you'd do when the word isn't broken into syllables.

[1] http://www.betar.org.il/music/005.jpg


---End Message---
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Page Formatting in 2.7.36-1

2006-03-04 Thread Graham Percival


On 2-Mar-06, at 10:31 AM, Walter Hofmeister wrote:

Has anybody else experienced problems with Page formatting. Settings 
set in

the \paper block don't seem to do anything.


They work here.  Are you sure your lilypond code is correct?

Please send a minimal example which demonstrates this problem.
- Graham



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Force Line Ending

2006-03-04 Thread Graham Percival


On 1-Mar-06, at 5:14 PM, Carrick Patterson wrote:

Is there a way within a \markup block with \wordwrap applied to 
force a text line ending? I'd like to be able to do:

 \markup { \wordwrap {CHAPTER ONE [?line ending?]
 Text of the chapter.} }
 }


You can use two newline characters if you use \wordwrap-string.  But in 
this case, I'd do something like

(untested)

\markup { \columns {
  \line { \bold CHAPTER ONE }
  \line { Text of chapter }
}}

Cheers,
- Graham



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: What's up with this list

2006-03-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
  Yesterday (Feb 28) there was hardly anything coming through, and
  today (Mar 1) I got a the same message several times. What's going
  on?  Buggy mailing-list software, rouge hackers, etc...  Earlier
  this week, many messages had been arriving in ad-havok fasion.
 
 That's pretty much what I've been getting.  I just sent a query to 
 Han-Wen and Jan.

See

  http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=4322

for explanations.


Werner


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


kick xpdf in lilypond-mod.el

2006-03-04 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

I'm trying to get a tighter integration between emacs-snapshot and
xpdf by starting up xpdf in server mode (with the -remote switch, one
for each *.ly buffer) and kicking the current document rather than
restarting a new xpdf process.

Can someone give an advice how to integrate that gracefully into the
command-call and customization scheme of lilypond-mode.el? I wrote a
function (LilyPond-kick-pdf), which starts a server process for the
current buffer if necessary and sends the pdf file to that process,
but as far as I can see, the mechanism in the current mode binds
customizable strings to the menu which are shell commands rather than
binding to elisp functions.

Attached is the elisp code for those interested.

--
Orm

--- Begin lilypond-mode.el snippet -

(defun LilyPond-kick-pdf ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((buffname (LilyPond-get-master-file))
(pl (process-list)))
(unless
; check whether a process named buffname exists
(catch 'result 
  (while (setq pname (pop pl))
(if (eq pname buffname) (throw 'result t
; start a new xpdf server if process doesn't exist
  (start-process 
   buffname
   nil
   xpdf  
   -remote 
   buffname))
; kick pdf
  (call-process 
   xpdf 
   nil 
   nil 
   nil 
   -remote 
   buffname
   (concat (substring (LilyPond-get-master-file) 0 -3) .pdf)
   )
  ))

--- End lilypond-mode.el snippet -



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


How to embed conditional non-music code

2006-03-04 Thread Alan Stern
How can I make a non-music part of my .ly file conditional?  For example,
suppose I want to add something like

between-system-padding = 0.3 \in

to the \paper{} section, but only if the Scheme variable partNum is equal to
0.  There doesn't seem to be any way to do it.  The #{ ... #} syntax doesn't
work because it parses only music expressions.



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Engraved 'look'

2006-03-04 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Darius Blasband writes:

 Softening corners is ok. But imperfections are not warm. They are just
 that: imperfections.

Adding imperfections of any temperature to a printout could be an
interesting thing to try.  It is probably not specific to music
prints, it could also be used for text.  Maybe the GIMP already has a
filter that can achieve this?

Jan.

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien   | http://www.lilypond.org


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: color constants?

2006-03-04 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Mar-06, at 5:08 PM, Trevor Bača wrote:

Is there a complete list of color constants available in settings such 
as


Umm, appendix C.3 ?  Try searching for color in the table of 
contents.  :P


I'll admit that it's not in the index yet.  Fixed in CVS.

Cheers,
- Graham


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: lilypond and LaTeX. Music glyph in a sentence.

2006-03-04 Thread ezebirman
Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 27 February 2006 20.26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear fellows:
 I'm working on an essay where a sentence like the following is needed

  The first segment has a duration of 110 dotted quarter and blah,
  blah...

 where dotted quarter should be replaced by the musical glyph.

 1) Is there a way to achieve this?

 Use lilypond --preview on the following:

 \layout {
 \context {
 \Staff
 \remove Staff_symbol_engraver
 \remove Clef_engraver
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
 }
 }
 {c''4.}

 You need to crop the resulting EPS file before including it in your
 document; this is a bit problematic due to bugs in ghostscript.

 -- 
 Erik

Thank you Erik.  I only changed c''4 to c'4 to have the stem up. Then
replaced the bounding box of the original EPS file to: %%BoundingBox:
127 -37 138 -16.8

I arrived at the values by trial an error though surely there must be
a better way. Also had to delete the point-and-click comments for
GhostScript to work.

This is the LaTeX code: \includegraphics[scale=0.5]{file.eps}

which seems more or less ok with Latin Modern fonts at 12pt, but
perhaps someone has a better idea on 1) how to find the right scaling
(eg. make the stem lenght equal to the height of a certain character
like, say, 'l'?) and 2) how to handle (or even automatize) the kerning
between the note glyph and the text.

--
Ezequiel Birman.



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: macosx command line lilypond-book

2006-03-04 Thread David Rogers
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:08:45 -0600, Don Blaheta wrote:
 Quoth Han-Wen Nienhuys:
  Graham Percival wrote:
  Are we talking about the same thing?  Back in the .dmg package days, 
  there were a few scripts (and a README).  The lilypond.sh script 
  contained
  
  python $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lilycall.py \
$INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/ $@
  
  There was also a lilypond-script-wrapper.sh
  
  Are those no longer required? 
  
  No, they shouldn't be, but I never tried.
 
 Well, copying them over from my old installation definitely made the new
 install work where it was broken before.

It seems to me that the scripts inside the new Lilypond.app are not 
added into the PATH, and so the system cannot find them.
Should the app come with a special note on how to fix this, or 
something?

David


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Engraved 'look'

2006-03-04 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Darius Blasband wrote:
 As much as I think that old scores must be used as source of inspiration
 for balance, aesthetics,
 etc., I think that reproducing their defects for the sake of
 old-fashioned look  would be odd.
 Softening corners is ok. But imperfections are not warm. They are just
 that: imperfections.
 
 Darius.
 
 Leo Trottier wrote:
 
 Apologies if this has already been debated/discussed extensively, but ...

 .. in my experience with (beautiful) Barenreiter editions a quality
 that I feel
 most striking is the 'old-fashioned' look  -- there are seldom razor
 sharp
 staff-lines (as tend to be produced by laser printers).  Instead, it
 seems,
 minute variations ('imperfections') in print add a warmth ... and it's
 this
 warmth that I feel is most lacking in lilypond output. 
 Wouldn't it be fairly easy add an 'soft/irregular edge' command to the
 typesetting system?

 Best,
 Leo

 PS I don't request this as a feature that I want personally so much as
 I think
 it would be one that could greatly enrich the (already superb) feel of
 lilypond
 output.



 ___
 lilypond-user mailing list
 lilypond-user@gnu.org
 http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user



  

 
 
 
 
 ___
 lilypond-user mailing list
 lilypond-user@gnu.org
 http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
 
I disagree--I'd like to have an option to turn imperfect edges on.

The difficult part would be devising the algorithm to produce it. The
imperfections would have to be perfect, so to speak. Just adding noise
somehow probably wouldn't do what's being asked for.

Cameron



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: macosx command line lilypond-book

2006-03-04 Thread Graham Percival


On 27-Feb-06, at 2:21 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Don Blaheta wrote:
All the above are small scripts that I got from the old .dmg 
packages.  I'm not certain how to get these for recent 2.7 releases, 
nor where they'll be for 2.8, since now we just have a .zip.

Aha!  On my other machine I have those very scripts; I had remembered
them but somehow thought they were uninstalled by 2.7.  Not only 
weren't

they uninstalled, they remain a key part of the lilypond system.


They are installed. They're in LilyPond.app/Contents/Resource/usr/bin/


Could you double-check this?  There's no ./usr in my 2.7.36-1.zip 
package.


Cheers,
- Graham



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)

2006-03-04 Thread Henrik Frisk
 I would really appreciate it if the fonts where included in the 
 output. As I have not been successful in getting the fonts to 
 
 load in 
 
 They are. The problem is that most SVG renderers (including 
 Inkscape and 
 Firefox) don't handle the font tag, which means that they 
don't 
 understand our embedded fonts.
 
  
  OK. Out of curiousity; why does the method of importing an 
eps, 
  exporting it to svg in Scribus work? (this whole thing is a bit 
 of a 
  mystery to me...)
 
 Because then, each character is expanded into penstrokes
 
That's what I thought. Now, relating to the discussion earlier in this 
thread: I did some more testing and for those that are interested in 
editing a svg in Inkscape, you have to create the eps through the 
convert utility of imagemagick and not use the lilypond --
backend=eps for it to work properly. Unless, of course, you 
manage to get the fonts to work in Inkscape in which case you can 
just use the svg backend in lilypond...

/henrik



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)

2006-03-04 Thread Henrik Frisk
  [lilypond svg] 
  I would really appreciate it if the fonts where included in the 
  output. As I have not been successful in getting the fonts to 
 load in 
 
 They are. The problem is that most SVG renderers (including 
 Inkscape and 
 Firefox) don't handle the font tag, which means that they don't 
 understand our embedded fonts.
 
OK. Out of curiousity; why does the method of importing an eps, 
exporting it to svg in Scribus work? (this whole thing is a bit of a 
mystery to me...)



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: macosx command line lilypond-book

2006-03-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Graham Percival wrote:


On 27-Feb-06, at 2:21 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Don Blaheta wrote:

All the above are small scripts that I got from the old .dmg 
packages.  I'm not certain how to get these for recent 2.7 releases, 
nor where they'll be for 2.8, since now we just have a .zip.


Aha!  On my other machine I have those very scripts; I had remembered
them but somehow thought they were uninstalled by 2.7.  Not only weren't
they uninstalled, they remain a key part of the lilypond system.



They are installed. They're in LilyPond.app/Contents/Resource/usr/bin/



Could you double-check this?  There's no ./usr in my 2.7.36-1.zip package.


Sorry, you're right of course. It's LilyPond.app/Contents/Resource/bin/

--
 Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: point and click

2006-03-04 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am 02. März 2006, 23:40 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:
 
 which version ?

2.7.36., which comes with guile 1.8.0 (in /usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin)

The problem was solved in the meantime by setting GUILE_LOAD_PATH. I
made a wrapper script for lilypond to keep my guile 1.6 usable.

--
Orm

P.S.: the mail delay is  2 days right now. This makes communicating
to the list quite tedious.


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


lilypond-mode.el

2006-03-04 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

it seems an old bug concerning lilypond-mode in emacs-snapshot is
still lurking in lilypond-mode.el:

Wrong type argument: arrayp, nil

I found a report on the net dating from last July that it has been
fixed in lilypond-cvs, but the lilypond-install.sh of 2.7.32 still got
it and using the cvs-version of lilypond-mode.el gives the same error.

emacs-snapshot version is 22.0.50.0 from Feb,16,2006

--
Orm


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: more text-interspersing issues

2006-03-04 Thread Carrick Patterson
After painful experimentation I have found that this works (note that the
material after \justify has to be enclosed in curly brackets):

\markup{
  \override #'(line-width . 110)
\justify{The first exercise is to be done with very short bow movements 
of
about one inch. The tapping or flicking movements on the point, at the middle
and at the frog of the bow on the string are essential for the balance of the
bow. The rests should be observed exactly, even counted aloud, during which
period the student should mentally and physically prepare himelf for the
subsequent movements.}}

Quoting Father Panteleimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I am using 2.7.34  on linux and 2.7.36 on windows. I am trying to create
 documents (liturgical books) that intersperse text and music. I do not know
 how to use LaTex, but have instead been trying to use the \book block,
 interspersing \markups with individual \score blocks. I have not found a way
 to adjust the margins of blocks of text...[snip]


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: color constants?

2006-03-04 Thread Trevor Bača
On 3/4/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/4/06, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 3-Mar-06, at 5:08 PM, Trevor Bača wrote:
 
   Is there a complete list of color constants available in settings such
   as
 
  Umm, appendix C.3 ?  Try searching for color in the table of
  contents.  :P
 
  I'll admit that it's not in the index yet.  Fixed in CVS.

 Damn. Obviously hit cmd-F on the wrong page.

 Thanks for the pointer!

Follow-up question:

Are the more avant-garde colors under the Color names without a
numerical suffix or Color names with a numerical suffix headings
supposed to work?

I'm getting unbound variable errors:

Parsing...ERROR: Unbound variable: azure
Parsing...ERROR: Unbound variable: salmon

(The 15 colors under Normal colors work fine, though.)


--
Trevor Bača
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: point and click

2006-03-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys


which version ?

Orm Finnendahl wrote:

Hi,

point and click doesn't seem to work as expected. After setting up
xpdfrc, EDITOR (and, to be sure LYEDITOR), and clicking into the score,
I get the following error in emacs:

ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

boot-9.scm is on my machine at the following locations: 


/usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
/usr/share/guile/1.4/ice-9/boot-9.scm
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/guile/1.8/ice-9/boot-9.scm


How and where can I set up the load-path properly?

--
Orm


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user




--
 Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Aligning lyrics to an invisible Voice

2006-03-04 Thread Martial


  One suggestions,
%--
\version 2.6.4
upper = \transpose c c' { \time 3/4  c4 e g | c e g | c e g }
lower = \transpose c c { \time 3/4  c2. | c | c }

%Change here
Invisible  =  { \hideNotes \time 3/4   c4 c c | c4. c8 c4 | c2. |}

verseOne = \lyricmode { One two three | four and six | seven }
verseTwo = \lyricmode { Eight nine ten | e -- le -- ven | twelve }

\score {
   \context PianoStaff 

  %Change here
  \context Staff  = lyricsRhythm
  \with {
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
  \remove Key_engraver
  \remove Clef_engraver
  \remove Staff_symbol_engraver
  } \context Voice = lyricsRhythm \Invisible
 \lyricsto lyricsRhythm \new Lyrics \verseOne
 \lyricsto lyricsRhythm \new Lyrics \verseTwo


 \context Staff = upper \upper
 \context Staff = lower \lower
   
   \layout { }
}
%-

--
Martial
http://cathemline.org



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: bug mailing list

2006-03-04 Thread Erik Sandberg
Citerar Andrzej Kopec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 BTW, is there place where lilypond bugs are listed?

I maintain a CVS archive of known bugs, here:
http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/lilypond/lily-bugs/bugs/
Usually there's a more readable, but less up-to-date, listing here (it's
generated from the CVS archive every now and then):
http://lilypond.org/bugs/v2.7/

Erik


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


moving rest vertically

2006-03-04 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

 trying to input my first complete piece with lilypond (Bach's Prelude
#20 from the WTC I), I stumbled across a rather trivial problem: A
32nd rest in a polyphonic 2nd voice collides with a note in the first
voice. Can someone give me a hint how to move that rest down by 1 or 2
staff lines? I couldn't find it in the documentation.

It is sufficient to tell me the \once \override ... expression for
the vertical displacement of a rest.

Maybe it would be a good idea to include it in the documetation (if
not already present).

--
Orm


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


mail delay

2006-03-04 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

can anybody confirm that mail takes about 2 days to get to the list?
Is there a way to accelerate this somehow?

--
Orm


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Example of two-pass vertical spacing tweaking

2006-03-04 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Hi,

Here is an example showing how to use the two-pass vertical spacing
feature. (It cannot be added to LSR, which uses version 2.6).

nicolas


\version 2.7.36
%{
 For the first pass, use the write-tweak option:
   $ lilypond -d write-tweaks file.ly
 This will write the file-page-layout.ly tweak file.
 Second pass:
   $ lilypond file.ly
 The file-page-layout.ly will be included, and tweaks
 used in the score. The file-page-layout.ly file will
 not be written.
%}
%%%
%%%  utility function for including tweaks depending
%%%  on the write-tweak option passed to lilypond
%%%
#(use-modules (srfi srfi-39) (ice-9 format))
#(define *write-tweaks* (make-parameter (ly:get-option 'write-tweaks)))

spacingTweaks = 
#(define-music-function (parser location props) (list?)
  Tweak the system vertical stretching, if not asked to write
  the page-layout file.
  (if (*write-tweaks*)
  (make-music 'SequentialMusic)
  (let* ((space-left (cdr (assoc 'page-space-left props)))
 (music-size (apply + (cdr (assoc 'music-system-heights props
 (system-size (* -1 (cadr (assoc 'system-Y-extent props
 (extra-space (/ (* system-size space-left) music-size)))
#{
  \overrideProperty #Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn
  #'line-break-system-details
  #$(list (cons 'alignment-extra-space extra-space))
#})))

includePageLayout = 
#(define-music-function (parser location) ()
   Include the page-layout file, if not asked to write it.
   (if (not (*write-tweaks*))
   (let ((tweak-filename (format #f ~a-page-layout.ly
 (ly:parser-output-name parser
 (if (access? tweak-filename R_OK)
 (begin
  (format #t Including tweak file ~a~% tweak-filename)
  (ly:parser-parse-string 
parser
(format #f \\include \~a\ tweak-filename))
   (make-music 'SequentialMusic 'void #t))

includeScoreTweak =
#(define-music-function (parser location name) (string?)
   Include the score tweak, named by name (aa string), if not
  asked to write the page layout file.
   (if (not (*write-tweaks*))
   (let ((tweak-music (ly:parser-lookup parser (string-symbol name
 (if (ly:music? tweak-music)
 tweak-music
 (make-music 'SequentialMusic)))
   (make-music 'SequentialMusic)))

\paper {
  ragged-bottom = ##t
  ragged-last-bottom = ##t
  annotate-spacing = #(*write-tweaks*)
  #(define write-page-layout (ly:get-option 'write-tweaks))
}

%%%
%%% The scores
%%%

\includePageLayout

\score {
  \new StaffGroup 
\new Staff  \includeScoreTweak A
  { \clef french c''1 \break c''1 } 
\new Staff { \clef soprano g'1 g'1 }
\new Staff { \clef mezzosoprano e'1 e'1 }
\new Staff { \clef alto g1 g1 }
\new Staff { \clef bass c1 c1 }
  
  \header {
title = Score A
  }
  \layout { #(define tweak-key A) }
}


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


How to 'unset something

2006-03-04 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
I'm sure this is easy but I can't even begin to figure 
out a way to search it in the manual


I used \setEasyHeads for many of my students pieces but 
I would like to stop that function mid-way through the 
piece or even just a few measures into it.

What is the command for that?
Thank you.
Jay
--
Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8
Jay Hamilton
Sound and Silence
206-328-7694
www.soundand.com


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: macosx command line lilypond-book

2006-03-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Graham Percival wrote:
Are we talking about the same thing?  Back in the .dmg package days, 
there were a few scripts (and a README).  The lilypond.sh script 
contained


python $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lilycall.py \
  $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/ $@

There was also a lilypond-script-wrapper.sh

Are those no longer required? 


No, they shouldn't be, but I never tried.



--
 Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen


___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: macosx command line lilypond-book

2006-03-04 Thread Graham Percival


On 28-Feb-06, at 2:47 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Graham Percival wrote:
They are installed. They're in 
LilyPond.app/Contents/Resource/usr/bin/
Could you double-check this?  There's no ./usr in my 2.7.36-1.zip 
package.


Sorry, you're right of course. It's LilyPond.app/Contents/Resource/bin/


Are we talking about the same thing?  Back in the .dmg package days, 
there were a few scripts (and a README).  The lilypond.sh script 
contained


python $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lilycall.py \
  $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/ $@

There was also a lilypond-script-wrapper.sh

Are those no longer required?  If they are, where are they?
- Graham



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Aligning lyrics to an invisible Voice

2006-03-04 Thread Martial

 One suggestions,
%--
\version 2.6.4
upper = \transpose c c' { \time 3/4  c4 e g | c e g | c e g }
lower = \transpose c c { \time 3/4  c2. | c | c }

%Change here
Invisible  =  { \hideNotes \time 3/4   c4 c c | c4. c8 c4 | c2. |}

verseOne = \lyricmode { One two three | four and six | seven }
verseTwo = \lyricmode { Eight nine ten | e -- le -- ven | twelve }

\score {
\context PianoStaff 

   %Change here
   \context Staff  = lyricsRhythm
   \with {
   \remove Time_signature_engraver
   \remove Key_engraver
   \remove Clef_engraver
   \remove Staff_symbol_engraver
   } \context Voice = lyricsRhythm \Invisible
  \lyricsto lyricsRhythm \new Lyrics \verseOne
  \lyricsto lyricsRhythm \new Lyrics \verseTwo


  \context Staff = upper \upper
  \context Staff = lower \lower

\layout { }
}
%-

--
Martial
http://cathemline.org



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: color constants?

2006-03-04 Thread Trevor Bača
On 3/4/06, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3-Mar-06, at 5:08 PM, Trevor Bača wrote:

  Is there a complete list of color constants available in settings such
  as

 Umm, appendix C.3 ?  Try searching for color in the table of
 contents.  :P

 I'll admit that it's not in the index yet.  Fixed in CVS.

Damn. Obviously hit cmd-F on the wrong page.

Thanks for the pointer!


--
Trevor Bača
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: Engraved 'look'

2006-03-04 Thread Aaron VonderHaar

Sounds like a job for an image filter.

ps2pnm music.ps
gimp -i -b '
(let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE  
music001.pnm music001.pnm)))

(drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image
(plug-in-blur RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable)
(gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable music001.pnm  
music001.pnm)

(gimp-image-delete image))' '(gimp-quit 0)'

Replace plug-in-blur with whatever effect you'd prefer. :)

--Aaron V.


On Feb 26, 2006, at 23:30, Leo Trottier wrote:

Apologies if this has already been debated/discussed extensively,  
but ...


... in my experience with (beautiful) Barenreiter editions a  
quality that I feel
most striking is the 'old-fashioned' look  -- there are seldom  
razor sharp
staff-lines (as tend to be produced by laser printers).  Instead,  
it seems,
minute variations ('imperfections') in print add a warmth ... and  
it's this

warmth that I feel is most lacking in lilypond output.

Wouldn't it be fairly easy add an 'soft/irregular edge' command to the
typesetting system?

Best,

Leo

PS I don't request this as a feature that I want personally so much  
as I think
it would be one that could greatly enrich the (already superb) feel  
of lilypond

output.



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user




___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Re: stems in the treble clef

2006-03-04 Thread Erik Sandberg
Citerar Annette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I noticed that when I do the examples in the tutorial, the stems in the
 treble 
 clef go up in your examples and yet when I do them, the stems go down.
 The only time I can make them go up is when I did that example of deciding 
 where to draw the beam.
 
 Could you look into this?  
 
 It even happened when I downloaded the examples from that long html page and

Hi,

Please use lilypond-user list for questions about lilypond usage.

Also, it will be easier for us to help you if you can show us the exact contents
of your input file.

Thanks,
Erik



___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user