Re: can Tuplet #'avoid-slur #'outside?

2006-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

You could use something like
\override TupletBracket #'padding = #2
but it would of course be nicer if you could convince LilyPond
to do it automatically by setting some avoid-slur property (I didn't manage
either).

  /Mats

Kieren MacMillan wrote:


Hello, all --

Is there any (easy) way to get the following to "do the right thing",  
i.e., have both tuplets sit above their respective slurs?
[n.b. I use \tupletUp because this is vocal music and I want to keep  
the tuplet away from the lyrics.]


%%%  CODE SNIPPET BEGINS
\version "2.9.8"
\relative c''
{
\tupletUp \times 2/3 { g'4( d) d } \times 2/3 { d4( c) c }
}
%%%  CODE SNIPPET ENDS

Of course, I could extra-offset all four items (2 Slurs, 2 Tuplets),  
but that seems way too kludgy.


Thanks,
Kieren.


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MIDI output problem (acciaccatura)

2006-06-12 Thread IMAI Yuji
Hi, lists.

I got confused timing midi file by following code.
My Lilypond on Windows XP version is 2.8.4-1 and 2.8.1-2
Thanks.

\score {
<<
\time 3/8
\new Staff \relative { f8 f f \acciaccatura a8 g16. f32 e4
  \acciaccatura a8 g16. f32 e4 }
\new Staff \relative { c8 c c d d d c c c }
>>
\midi { }
}

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Re: MIDI output problem (acciaccatura)

2006-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, this problem has already been reported a number of times,
so it should be well-known by now.

  /Mats

IMAI Yuji wrote:


Hi, lists.

I got confused timing midi file by following code.
My Lilypond on Windows XP version is 2.8.4-1 and 2.8.1-2
Thanks.

\score {
   <<
   \time 3/8
   \new Staff \relative { f8 f f \acciaccatura a8 g16. f32 e4
 \acciaccatura a8 g16. f32 e4 }
   \new Staff \relative { c8 c c d d d c c c }
   >>
   \midi { }
}

 



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RE: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Anthony Youngman
I've changed my approach - I felt all along that the rests were what was
screwing things up. (Which means, I think, that if I copy your example
exactly as you've given it, it'll be just as big a mess as before. But
I'll try your approach in a minute - I'm still going to send this email
because I do think there's something fundamentally wrong under this
somewhere...)

Unfortunately, I've just swapped one error for another. I've redefined
pennsylvania as 

pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
{ \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8.
f16 }
\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
r4 }

which has had several effects. I no longer need to reset the notehead
style. lilypond no longer complains about getting its timing in a twist.
It is now complaining about trying to put noteheads and stems on a rest
(the r4 - and yes I did try reverting the notehead style - no effect
whatsoever). And because I've got two consecutive occurrences on the
same line, it's making the two lots of text avoid each other, which
looks daft.

Graham - I'll have to write something for the docs (I'm working from
2.8.0) because there appears to be no examples at all about how to embed
a lyric fragment in a larger piece. I'm attaching the lyrics to the
notes no problem - it's getting the resultant fragment successfully into
the bigger work that's the problem!

And part of that problem at least seems to be that \addlyrics just does
not like rests!

More investigation to follow - my current source attached ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 June 2006 12:43
To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...

I got the same programming error but still the output looked right
in the simplified example I tried. However, a "better" solution is to
use \lyricsto. For example, you can define a separate Voice context
for the music that the lyrics should follow and define a separate
identifier for the lyrics:

pennsylvania = \context Voice = pennsylvania {
\override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4
}


pennsylvaniaLyrics = \lyricmode { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }


and redefine your \score block to:

\score {
<<
\new Staff {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
 {
\clef "bass"
<<
\voiceTimeSig
\voiceTromboneI
\voiceMarkup
>>
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto pennsylvania {
\pennsylvaniaLyrics \pennsylvaniaLyrics
}
 >>
\layout {
}
}

   /Mats



Anthony Youngman wrote:

>Just tried swapping your version for mine. No improvement :-(
>
>And I'm still getting "programming error: moving backwards in time" in
>the logs ...
>
>Cheers,
>Wol
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 08 June 2006 11:34
>To: Anthony Youngman
>Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...
>
>The problem is that \addlyrics doesn't really work that way, see Sect.
>"7.3.4 The Lyrics Context".
>It seems that the following version actually does work:
>
>pennsylvania = <<
>\new Voice{\override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
>r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
>\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
> >>
>
>
>   /Mats
>
>Anthony Youngman wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I'm now trying to add some words to a phrase ...
>>
>>pennsylvania = {
>>  {   \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
>>  r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
>>% \addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
>>}
>>
>>voiceTromboneI =  \relative c' {
>>
>>  r2  ef4.-- ef8-> ~ ef1 r2 r4 bf8.->( ef16-.) r2 r4 ef,8. af,16->
>>~ |
>>\break
>>  af2 c-- df-- d-- ef-- df-- c-- bf-- |
>>\break
>>  \repeat "volta" 2 { R1*6 } \alternative { { \resetOctave f
>>\pennsylvania } { \pennsylvania } }
>>
>>}
>>
>>Note that the addlyrics line is commented out ... and I've copied the
>>layout of this from the example at the end of 7.3.1 in the manual ...
>>
>>The music "knows" from elsewhere that both my alternative sections are
>>two bars long. When I compile the above, it works perfectly - the
notes
>>appear perfectly in the time bars.
>>
>>As soon as I uncomment the lyrics line, the lyrics appear over the
>>correct notes, but the entire phrase seems to become four bars long -
>>completely messing up the bar structure! What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>Note that the music both starts and ends with a rest, which is why I
>>haven't tried specifying music lengths for the words - and it seems to
>>be shoving the words in the correct place anyway.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Wol
>>
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RE: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Anthony Youngman
Ummm ... your approach "worked". Except not completely :-(

You'll notice my revised stuff has THREE occurrences of the lyrics (so
far). So I did a '\repeat "unfold" 3'. And got lyrics for the first two
only :-(

How difficult can it be :-( All I'm trying to do is create a two-bar
fragment that gets repeated in several places, so I can just drop it
into the music where it's needed ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 12 June 2006 12:04
To: Mats Bengtsson
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

I've changed my approach - I felt all along that the rests were what was
screwing things up. (Which means, I think, that if I copy your example
exactly as you've given it, it'll be just as big a mess as before. But
I'll try your approach in a minute - I'm still going to send this email
because I do think there's something fundamentally wrong under this
somewhere...)

Unfortunately, I've just swapped one error for another. I've redefined
pennsylvania as 

pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
{ \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8.
f16 }
\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
r4 }

which has had several effects. I no longer need to reset the notehead
style. lilypond no longer complains about getting its timing in a twist.
It is now complaining about trying to put noteheads and stems on a rest
(the r4 - and yes I did try reverting the notehead style - no effect
whatsoever). And because I've got two consecutive occurrences on the
same line, it's making the two lots of text avoid each other, which
looks daft.

Graham - I'll have to write something for the docs (I'm working from
2.8.0) because there appears to be no examples at all about how to embed
a lyric fragment in a larger piece. I'm attaching the lyrics to the
notes no problem - it's getting the resultant fragment successfully into
the bigger work that's the problem!

And part of that problem at least seems to be that \addlyrics just does
not like rests!

More investigation to follow - my current source attached ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 June 2006 12:43
To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...

I got the same programming error but still the output looked right
in the simplified example I tried. However, a "better" solution is to
use \lyricsto. For example, you can define a separate Voice context
for the music that the lyrics should follow and define a separate
identifier for the lyrics:

pennsylvania = \context Voice = pennsylvania {
\override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4
}


pennsylvaniaLyrics = \lyricmode { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }


and redefine your \score block to:

\score {
<<
\new Staff {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
 {
\clef "bass"
<<
\voiceTimeSig
\voiceTromboneI
\voiceMarkup
>>
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto pennsylvania {
\pennsylvaniaLyrics \pennsylvaniaLyrics
}
 >>
\layout {
}
}

   /Mats



Anthony Youngman wrote:

>Just tried swapping your version for mine. No improvement :-(
>
>And I'm still getting "programming error: moving backwards in time" in
>the logs ...
>
>Cheers,
>Wol
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 08 June 2006 11:34
>To: Anthony Youngman
>Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...
>
>The problem is that \addlyrics doesn't really work that way, see Sect.
>"7.3.4 The Lyrics Context".
>It seems that the following version actually does work:
>
>pennsylvania = <<
>\new Voice{\override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
>r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
>\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
> >>
>
>
>   /Mats
>
>Anthony Youngman wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I'm now trying to add some words to a phrase ...
>>
>>pennsylvania = {
>>  {   \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
>>  r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
>>% \addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
>>}
>>
>>voiceTromboneI =  \relative c' {
>>
>>  r2  ef4.-- ef8-> ~ ef1 r2 r4 bf8.->( ef16-.) r2 r4 ef,8. af,16->
>>~ |
>>\break
>>  af2 c-- df-- d-- ef-- df-- c-- bf-- |
>>\break
>>  \repeat "volta" 2 { R1*6 } \alternative { { \resetOctave f
>>\pennsylvania } { \pennsylvania } }
>>
>>}
>>
>>Note that the addlyrics line is commented out ... and I've copied the
>>layout of this from the example at the end of 7.3.1 in the manual ...
>>
>>The music "knows" from elsewhere that both my alternative sections are
>>two bars long. When I compile the above, it works perfectly - the
notes
>>appear perfectly in the time b

Re: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

It works if you make sure to keep the Voice context "pennsylvania"
alive between the different places in the score where you use your 
\pennsylvania.

For example, you can add the following in your \score block:

\score {
<<
   \new Staff {
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t
{
   \clef "bass"
   <<
   \new Voice = pennsylvania {s1*39}
   \voiceTimeSig
   \voiceTromboneI
   \voiceMarkup
   >>
   }
   }
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto pennsylvania {
\pennsylvaniaLyrics
   }
>>
   \layout {
   }
}


  /Mats

Anthony Youngman wrote:


Ummm ... your approach "worked". Except not completely :-(

You'll notice my revised stuff has THREE occurrences of the lyrics (so
far). So I did a '\repeat "unfold" 3'. And got lyrics for the first two
only :-(

How difficult can it be :-( All I'm trying to do is create a two-bar
fragment that gets repeated in several places, so I can just drop it
into the music where it's needed ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 12 June 2006 12:04
To: Mats Bengtsson
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

I've changed my approach - I felt all along that the rests were what was
screwing things up. (Which means, I think, that if I copy your example
exactly as you've given it, it'll be just as big a mess as before. But
I'll try your approach in a minute - I'm still going to send this email
because I do think there's something fundamentally wrong under this
somewhere...)

Unfortunately, I've just swapped one error for another. I've redefined
pennsylvania as 


pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
{ \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8.
f16 }
\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
r4 }

which has had several effects. I no longer need to reset the notehead
style. lilypond no longer complains about getting its timing in a twist.
It is now complaining about trying to put noteheads and stems on a rest
(the r4 - and yes I did try reverting the notehead style - no effect
whatsoever). And because I've got two consecutive occurrences on the
same line, it's making the two lots of text avoid each other, which
looks daft.

Graham - I'll have to write something for the docs (I'm working from
2.8.0) because there appears to be no examples at all about how to embed
a lyric fragment in a larger piece. I'm attaching the lyrics to the
notes no problem - it's getting the resultant fragment successfully into
the bigger work that's the problem!

And part of that problem at least seems to be that \addlyrics just does
not like rests!

More investigation to follow - my current source attached ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 June 2006 12:43

To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...

I got the same programming error but still the output looked right
in the simplified example I tried. However, a "better" solution is to
use \lyricsto. For example, you can define a separate Voice context
for the music that the lyrics should follow and define a separate
identifier for the lyrics:

pennsylvania = \context Voice = pennsylvania {
   \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
   r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4
}


pennsylvaniaLyrics = \lyricmode { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }


and redefine your \score block to:

\score {
<<
   \new Staff {
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t
{
   \clef "bass"
   <<
   \voiceTimeSig
   \voiceTromboneI
   \voiceMarkup
   >>
   }
   }
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto pennsylvania {
   \pennsylvaniaLyrics \pennsylvaniaLyrics
   }
>>
   \layout {
   }
}

  /Mats



Anthony Youngman wrote:

 


Just tried swapping your version for mine. No improvement :-(

And I'm still getting "programming error: moving backwards in time" in
the logs ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 June 2006 11:34

To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ...

The problem is that \addlyrics doesn't really work that way, see Sect.
"7.3.4 The Lyrics Context".
It seems that the following version actually does work:

pennsylvania = <<
  \new Voice{\override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
  r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
  \addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
   


 /Mats

Anthony Youngman wrote:



   


I'm now trying to add some words to a phrase ...

pennsylvania = {
{   \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross
r2_\markup{ shout } f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8. f16 r4 }
%   \addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
}

voiceTromboneI =  \relative c' {

r2  ef4.-- ef8-> ~

Re: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Anthony Youngman wrote:


I've changed my approach - I felt all along that the rests were what was
screwing things up. (Which means, I think, that if I copy your example
exactly as you've given it, it'll be just as big a mess as before. But
I'll try your approach in a minute - I'm still going to send this email
because I do think there's something fundamentally wrong under this
somewhere...)

Unfortunately, I've just swapped one error for another. I've redefined
pennsylvania as 


pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
{ \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8.
f16 }
\addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
r4 }

which has had several effects. I no longer need to reset the notehead
style. 


What you said here made me completely confused, so I had to take a look at
the implementation and learned something new. The construct
music_expression \addlyrics lyrics
will create a new Voice context for the music_expression.


lilypond no longer complains about getting its timing in a twist.
It is now complaining about trying to put noteheads and stems on a rest
(the r4 - and yes I did try reverting the notehead style - no effect
whatsoever). And because I've got two consecutive occurrences on the
same line, it's making the two lots of text avoid each other, which
looks daft.


The timing gets lost already at the end of the prima volta. I have no idea
on what's going on here. Replacing
music_expression \addlyrics lyrics
by
\new Voice music_expression
in your example works well, so there's something more going on here that
I don't understand fully.

Still, my impression is that \addlyrics mainly was implemented to support
extremely simple situations where your score in principle only has a melody
and one or more lines of lyrics. What makes your example extra complicated
is that you want to insert the same construct at a number of places in the
score.

In a way, maybe the simplest solution for you is to do
pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
 <<
   \new Voice { \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 
f f8. f16 }
   \context Lyrics = pennsylvanialyrics \lyricmode{ Penn8. syl16 van8. 
ia16 six4 five4 thous8. and16 }

 >>
 r4 }
Unfortunately, it means that you have to specify the durations of the 
syllables
explicictly. Also,  the second set of lyrics gets  typeset one line too 
low. I will

write a separate bug report about that issue.


Graham - I'll have to write something for the docs (I'm working from
2.8.0) because there appears to be no examples at all about how to embed
a lyric fragment in a larger piece. 

Sure there is! In the latest manual for version 2.9, you can find two 
examples

in section "7.3.7.2 Divisi lyrics" and I know that Eduardo has sent a draft
of even more documentation to Graham, with related information.


   /Mats




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RE: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Anthony Youngman
Thanks. 

I'll play with all this and see where I get. I thought what I was doing
WAS simple :-( I'll also try the {} you mention in your other email.

And I'll download and read the 2.9 docu at some point. Although I get
the impression it might not be a good idea to upgrade for a while ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 June 2006 13:25
To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org; lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???



Anthony Youngman wrote:

>I've changed my approach - I felt all along that the rests were what
was
>screwing things up. (Which means, I think, that if I copy your example
>exactly as you've given it, it'll be just as big a mess as before. But
>I'll try your approach in a minute - I'm still going to send this email
>because I do think there's something fundamentally wrong under this
>somewhere...)
>
>Unfortunately, I've just swapped one error for another. I've redefined
>pennsylvania as 
>
>pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
>   { \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4 f f8.
>f16 }
>   \addlyrics { Penn syl van ia six five thous and }
>   r4 }
>
>which has had several effects. I no longer need to reset the notehead
>style. 
>
What you said here made me completely confused, so I had to take a look
at
the implementation and learned something new. The construct
music_expression \addlyrics lyrics
will create a new Voice context for the music_expression.

>lilypond no longer complains about getting its timing in a twist.
>It is now complaining about trying to put noteheads and stems on a rest
>(the r4 - and yes I did try reverting the notehead style - no effect
>whatsoever). And because I've got two consecutive occurrences on the
>same line, it's making the two lots of text avoid each other, which
>looks daft.
>
The timing gets lost already at the end of the prima volta. I have no
idea
on what's going on here. Replacing
music_expression \addlyrics lyrics
by
\new Voice music_expression
in your example works well, so there's something more going on here that
I don't understand fully.

Still, my impression is that \addlyrics mainly was implemented to
support
extremely simple situations where your score in principle only has a
melody
and one or more lines of lyrics. What makes your example extra
complicated
is that you want to insert the same construct at a number of places in
the
score.

In a way, maybe the simplest solution for you is to do
pennsylvania = { r2_\markup{ shout }
  <<
\new Voice { \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross f8. f16 f8. f16 f4

f f8. f16 }
\context Lyrics = pennsylvanialyrics \lyricmode{ Penn8. syl16 van8. 
ia16 six4 five4 thous8. and16 }
  >>
  r4 }
Unfortunately, it means that you have to specify the durations of the 
syllables
explicictly. Also,  the second set of lyrics gets  typeset one line too 
low. I will
write a separate bug report about that issue.

>Graham - I'll have to write something for the docs (I'm working from
>2.8.0) because there appears to be no examples at all about how to
embed
>a lyric fragment in a larger piece. 
>
Sure there is! In the latest manual for version 2.9, you can find two 
examples
in section "7.3.7.2 Divisi lyrics" and I know that Eduardo has sent a
draft
of even more documentation to Graham, with related information.


/Mats



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Re: Lyrics problem ... Bug? Feature? ???

2006-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Anthony Youngman wrote:


And I'll download and read the 2.9 docu at some point. Although I get
the impression it might not be a good idea to upgrade for a while ...
 

Actually, the manuals for 2.8 and 2.9 are (almost) identical for the 
moment.

The main difference is that the one for 2.9 is released more often, so it
often has some new material that hasn't made it to the latest 2.8 manual 
yet.

As far as I understand, the idea is that new features for version 2.9 are
described in a separate chapter of the manual that then is pasted into the
main text just before the next stable release. Otherwise Graham would
have been too busy keeping two versions of the manual up to date in 
parallel.


  /Mats


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Re: can Tuplet #'avoid-slur #'outside?

2006-06-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Mats Bengtsson schreef:

You could use something like
\override TupletBracket #'padding = #2
but it would of course be nicer if you could convince LilyPond
to do it automatically by setting some avoid-slur property (I didn't manage
either).


slur-engraver.cc hardcodes what interfaces it listens to, and 
tuplet-bracket isn't among them.


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Re: can Tuplet #'avoid-slur #'outside?

2006-06-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi, Han-Wen:

slur-engraver.cc hardcodes what interfaces it listens to, and  
tuplet-bracket isn't among them.


I noticed on the Sponsor feature-list that S-shaped slurs and slur  
formatting are listed...


How much for a rewrite of the slur code that
1. Handled S-slurs (at least minimally, in extreme cases);
2a. Supported an easy attachment option (e.g., head, stem, etc);  
and/or, optionally
2b. Allowed control-point tweaks (e.g., +1, -23) as opposed to  
direct setting; and

3. Avoided TupletBrackets;

?

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problems with Slurs across system breaks

2006-06-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello, all!

Is anyone else seeing weird results [v2.8.x and v2.9.x] with Slurs  
going across system breaks?


I don't really have time to try to sift out a minimal example right  
now, but here's an example screenshot of what is *supposed* to be a  
Slur carrying over from the previous system:






It may be related to the "disappearing system-break Tie" problem I've  
noticed as well -- e.g., this screenshot shows what is *supposed* to  
be a note tied from the previous system (actually the previous page,  
in this case), and I think the TEENY little dot near the right-hand  
side of the screenshot is the Tie:





Just wanted to know if this is on anyone else's radar, or if it's  
only a problem with *my* music...  =)


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staff extending after piece is over

2006-06-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello, all --

My score [v2.8.4] gives this at the end:




I use bar checks at the end of every single measure of every part,  
and my score compiles with no errors.
Any idea what's going on, or at least what I can do to get Lilypond  
to tell me why it's extending one of the staves?


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Re: staff extending after piece is over [SOLVED]

2006-06-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello, all:

Ignore my last post -- turned out there *was* one music variable  
without bar checks, and the error was in there...  =)


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barline problem

2006-06-12 Thread Dewdman42

I am a brand new Lilypond user.  I installed Lilypond and ran the test .ly
file that is included with the installation.  It produced a PDF file. 
however, I notice that the barlines stick up above and stick down below just
a little bit beyond the top and bottom ledger line.  Surely this must be a
bug or some mistake or something?  I tried both the current stable version
and the current beta..they both do it.  What gives?  I'm running on Windows
XP.


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Re: staff extending after piece is over

2006-06-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG

> My score [v2.8.4] gives this at the end:

Besides this, it is quite ugly that the flageolet over the full note
isn't centered...  Unfortunately, this isn't easy to fix (except by
adding some offset manually).


Werner


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Re: problems with Slurs across system breaks

2006-06-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG

> Is anyone else seeing weird results [v2.8.x and v2.9.x] with Slurs  
> going across system breaks?

I see something similar, but I haven't yet found time to isolate a
small example case for a good bug report.


Werner


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Re: barline problem

2006-06-12 Thread Graham Percival


On 12-Jun-06, at 9:09 PM, Dewdman42 wrote:

I am a brand new Lilypond user.  I installed Lilypond and ran the test 
.ly

file that is included with the installation.  It produced a PDF file.
however, I notice that the barlines stick up above and stick down 
below just
a little bit beyond the top and bottom ledger line.  Surely this must 
be a
bug or some mistake or something?  I tried both the current stable 
version
and the current beta..they both do it.  What gives?  I'm running on 
Windows

XP.


It could be a problem with your PDF viewer.  Did the line appear broken 
if you printed it out, or if you zoomed in?


Cheers,
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Re: barline problem

2006-06-12 Thread Dewdman42

Doubt its a problem with my PDF viewer.  I tried the experiment on my laptop
too.  Same problem.  Using Adobe reader 7.0.7.  When its zoomed in to 100%,
the line is not broken.  Zoomed in to 400% the line is still not broken, but
at that resolution the ends of the barlines do meet squarely with the top
and bottom ledger lines without overlapping...but zoomed in this far...some
ledger lines are thicker than others

At 800% ledger lines are even, barlines still not broken and they connect
squarely to to the ledger lines

Also, at 100%, the note stems are inconsistent thickness.  Some are
ridiculously too thick and some are really thin.  

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Re: barline problem

2006-06-12 Thread Graham Percival


On 12-Jun-06, at 11:34 PM, Dewdman42 wrote:

Doubt its a problem with my PDF viewer.  I tried the experiment on my 
laptop

too.  Same problem.  Using Adobe reader 7.0.7.


You're probably using the same program on your laptop as well, so it 
could well be a problem with your PDF viewer.



  When its zoomed in to 100%,
the line is not broken.  Zoomed in to 400% the line is still not 
broken, but
at that resolution the ends of the barlines do meet squarely with the 
top
and bottom ledger lines without overlapping...but zoomed in this 
far...some

ledger lines are thicker than others


Please try printing a page.  This really sounds like a PDF viewer 
problem.


- Graham



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