Re: tetex 2.5 and lilypond 2.0
On Monday 10 July 2006 15:14, Laura Conrad wrote: > My problem is that I have several major projects that are in lilypond > 2.0. Even where convert-ly performs flawlessly (which it doesn't for > a number of features, like multi-verse vocal music), By the way, there are plans to drop the old-lyric-combine compatibility altogether, so in order to upgrade to the next stable version, you'll have to rewrite all your old-style \addlyrics expressions manually. -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tetex 2.5 and lilypond 2.0
> "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> By the way, there are plans to drop the old-lyric-combine Erik> compatibility altogether, so in order to upgrade to the next Erik> stable version, you'll have to rewrite all your old-style Erik> \addlyrics expressions manually. I'm not sure how this differs from what I have to do now. Do you mean that in addition to breaking multi-verse upgrading, you're also planning to break single-verse upgrading? Before that happens, could someone rewrite abc2ly to use something that convert-ly will know what to do with? Or at least explain what that something would be? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Mixing text and notation
Hi all, I want to include a short text in a score (a kind of preamble) with an advanced formatting. I'd like to use a word processing to create and format the text, and include the result in my score. I know, that there is a way to do it vice versa; include lilypond notation in LaTex. But as I'm not very confident with LaText and I have only one short paragraph of text to include (and the formatting of markup is not sufficient) I tried to find a way to inlcude postscript or anything similiar. Can anyone please give me a hint?! Thanks! Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tetex 2.5 and lilypond 2.0
On 7/11/06, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> By the way, there are plans to drop the old-lyric-combine Erik> compatibility altogether, so in order to upgrade to the next Erik> stable version, you'll have to rewrite all your old-style Erik> \addlyrics expressions manually. I'm not sure how this differs from what I have to do now. Do you mean that in addition to breaking multi-verse upgrading, you're also planning to break single-verse upgrading? I think so. The command that used to be \addlyrics, and which now is known as \oldaddlyrics, will be removed. \lyricsto (and hte new \addlyrics) will be the only ways to align lyrics. Before that happens, could someone rewrite abc2ly to use something that convert-ly will know what to do with? Or at least explain what that something would be? I don't know much about abc2ly, but it will have to produce \lyricsto expressions in order to work with 2.9. Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tetex 2.5 and lilypond 2.0
> "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Erik> On 7/11/06, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Erik> By the way, there are plans to drop the old-lyric-combine
Erik> compatibility altogether, so in order to upgrade to the next
Erik> stable version, you'll have to rewrite all your old-style
Erik> \addlyrics expressions manually.
>>
>> I'm not sure how this differs from what I have to do now. Do
>> you mean that in addition to breaking multi-verse upgrading,
>> you're also planning to break single-verse upgrading?
Erik> I think so. The command that used to be \addlyrics, and
Erik> which now is known as \oldaddlyrics, will be
Erik> removed. \lyricsto (and hte new \addlyrics) will be the only
Erik> ways to align lyrics.
I suppose I should be reading the fine manual more, but I've never
figured out the difference between \oldaddlyrics and \addlyrics. In
any case, my manual conversions use \addlyrics.
>> Before that happens, could someone rewrite abc2ly to use
>> something that convert-ly will know what to do with? Or at
>> least explain what that something would be?
Erik> I don't know much about abc2ly, but it will have to produce
Erik> \lyricsto expressions in order to work with 2.9.
OK, in abc, I might write:
X:1
T:Row, row, row your boat
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:C
C3 C3 | C2 DE3 | E2 D E2 F | G6 |
w:Row row row your boat, gen- tly down the stream
cc c GG G | EE E CC C |
w: Mer- ri- ly, Mer- ri- ly, Mer- ri- ly Mer- ri- ly,
G2 F E2 D | C6 |]
w:Life is but a dream.
abc2ly would have formerly (1.5.71) written a score for that as:
\score{
\notes <
\addlyrics
\context Staff="default"
{
\voicedefault
}
\context Lyrics="default"
<
{ \wordsdefaultVA }
>
>
}
and now writes:
\score{
<<
\context Staff="default"
{
\voicedefault
}
\addlyrics {
\wordsdefaultVA }
>>
}
Which looks pretty similar to me. So if something major is going to
change about how addlyrics works, someone (I'm willing to be the
someone if I'm in the loop) should make sure that abc2ly can convert
"Row, row, row your boat".
Now the reason I'm grumpy about this, is that if we have a two verse
song:
X:1
T:Row, row, row your boat
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:C
C3 C3 | C2 DE3 | E2 D E2 F | G6 |
w:Row row row your boat, gen- tly down the stream
w:Bat, bat, bat your ball, fierce- ly o'er the fence,
cc c GG G | EE E CC C |
w: Mer- ri- ly, Mer- ri- ly, Mer- ri- ly Mer- ri- ly,
G2 F E2 D | C6 |]
w:Life is but a dream.
The old abc2ly would have said:
\score{
\notes <<
\addlyrics
\context Staff="default"
{
\voicedefault
}
\context Lyrics="default"
<<
{ \wordsdefaultVA }
{ \wordsdefaultVB }
>>
>>
}
And the new one says:
\score{
<<
\context Staff="default"
{
\voicedefault
}
\addlyrics {
\wordsdefaultVA }
\addlyrics {
\wordsdefaultVB }
>>
}
I've never seen why convert-ly wouldn't be able to write that from the
old output of abc2ly, but instead it writes:
\score{
<<
\oldaddlyrics
\context Staff="default"
{
\voicedefault
}
\context Lyrics="default"
<<
{ \wordsdefaultVA }
{ \wordsdefaultVB }
>>
>>
}
Which doesn't work, and leaves the second verse out.
Now I have been hand-converting my multi-verse songs by using
something like the new output of abc2ly. I hope that's going to go on
working. If not, abc2ly should stop using it, of course. And it would
be good if convert-ly could handle it better than it handled the
conversion between 2.x and 2.6 where it broke all multi-verse lyrics
that I know anything about.
--
Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ )
(617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011
233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
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Re: Mixing text and notation
"Nicolas Prömper"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to include a short text in a score (a kind of preamble) with an
> advanced formatting. I'd like to use a word processing to create and
> format the text, and include the result in my score.
>
> I know, that there is a way to do it vice versa; include lilypond
> notation in LaTex. But as I'm not very confident with LaText and I
> have only one short paragraph of text to include (and the formatting
> of markup is not sufficient) I tried to find a way to inlcude
> postscript or anything similiar.
>
> Can anyone please give me a hint?!
Why not let LilyPond take care of this?
Have you Read The Fine Manual, section 8.1.4 Text Markup?
Text can also be placed on its own, away from any \score block.
\markup{ Here is some text. }
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Re: tetex 2.5 and lilypond 2.0
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 17:13, Laura Conrad wrote: > > "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Erik> On 7/11/06, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > "Erik" == Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Erik> By the way, there are plans to drop the old-lyric-combine > Erik> compatibility altogether, so in order to upgrade to the next > Erik> stable version, you'll have to rewrite all your old-style > Erik> \addlyrics expressions manually. > > >> I'm not sure how this differs from what I have to do now. Do > >> you mean that in addition to breaking multi-verse upgrading, > >> you're also planning to break single-verse upgrading? > > Erik> I think so. The command that used to be \addlyrics, and > Erik> which now is known as \oldaddlyrics, will be > Erik> removed. \lyricsto (and hte new \addlyrics) will be the only > Erik> ways to align lyrics. > > I suppose I should be reading the fine manual more, but I've never > figured out the difference between \oldaddlyrics and \addlyrics. In > any case, my manual conversions use \addlyrics. \addlyrics will still be supported, only \oldaddlyrics will be junked. So according to what you say below, abc2ly will still work fine. > I've never seen why convert-ly wouldn't be able to write that from the > old output of abc2ly, but instead it writes: The reason why convert-ly can't handle oldaddlyrics, is that it is based on regexps, which makes it very difficult to move stuff far distances (such as across a \context Staff ... expression). -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
