RE: Standard sheet music in (US)

2006-07-18 Thread Anthony Youngman
Somethning else to look at ... a ?week? ago on the list, somebody had a
similar problem which turned out to be a bug in the call to gs. He set a
custom paper size, but when lily called gs it wasn't passing his custom
size, it was telling gs to produce an A4 pdf.

This *could* be the same bug.

Cheers,
Wol

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Update...

This worked for me, the key apparently is to call the form archA which
apparently is some standard name that Adobe knows as being a 9x12
document
size.  I initially created another 9x12 form the only difference being
the
name Concert and Adobe still uses a document size of 8.5x11 with a
paper
size of 9x12 (not understanding the name).  But when I changed the form
name
Concert to archA it sees it and there is no need to rescale while
printing IOW wysiwyg.

Also (for windows) you need to add the form name archA to you machine
if
it's not already present, by going to:

Control Panel / Printers and Faxes / File / Server Properties

For all you Windows folks just add the archA form on this panel.  Of
course 
the paper transport has to be able to physically accomodate that size
too,
and mine does.  Also SS Worldwide has good deals on 9x12 acid-free
manuscipt sheet music paper in saphire white (60 or 80 lb.) (not
affiliated,
just a happy customer)


Thanks again
Rick




Rick Hogg wrote:
 
 Rick,
 All you have to do is change your paper.scm.  That's
 all I did, and I get 9x12 PDFs just fine.  All you
 have to do after that is find a printer that will
 print 9x12 paper or go to your local copy shop.  I've
 attached my paper.scm file.  Look at the section that
 gives paper dimensions.  The line to add is:
  (archA . (cons (* 9.0 in) (* 12.0 in)))
 
 Then, when you set your paper size, use archA.  The
 first two lines of the piece I'm working on look like
 this:
 \version 2.8.5
 #(set-default-paper-size archA)
 
 Again, check out my paper.scm, then try it yourself. 
 It should work without a hitch.  At least it works on
 Mac OS 10.4.7 with Lilypond 2.8.5 and Preview.app.
 
 Rick
 
 --- Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Scanning the archive I determined that the file
 called framework-ps.scm
 needs to be changed in order to use std 9x12
 manuscript paper.
 
 Does anyone have a copy of this file that is already
 modified for 9x12 and
 will work with version 2.8.5 (IOW not break lp)? 
 The bug was that the pdf
 header was not being written properly, somebody
 fixed it (post 2.8.0) but
 apparently the changes never made it to version
 2.8.5.  Adobe thinks the
 document is 8.5x11 even though paper size is 9x12.
 
 This is kind of urgent as I need to get this out for
 fall band rehearsal and
 dont want to use Letter size paper.
 
 
 
 
 
 Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I've been away from LP for a few months, so I
 decided to upgrade to 2.8.5.
  
  I added 9x12 inch paper to paper.scm, however LP
 is still not recognizing
  all the real estate available to it.  Also when I
 go to print and tell
  Adobe the paper is 9x12, Adobe still thinks the
 document size is 8.5x11
  even though my \paper block clearly indicates
 9x12.
  
  Can anyone fill me in on how to print on standard
 sheet music paper?  In
  the USA std sheet music is called Arch A or
 Architectural A or as
  Finale calls it Concert.  All these are 9x12
 inches and most printers
  install these forms in the US automatically.  So
 I'm not asking for
  anything weird here.
  
  Changing paper.scm alone does not seem to do the
 trick.  I seem to recall
  there was some other file that needed to be
 changed, but since I already
  overlayed 2.8.0 with 2.8.5 I cant tell what those
 changes entailed, nor am
  I a Scheme programmer.
  
  thanks for any help on this that anyone might
 have.  I hope lp catches on
  in the USA and that someday it will support
 standard sheet music paper.
  
  Rick
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: Standard sheet music in (US)

2006-07-18 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

That sounds similar, except since my copy of Adobe and computer is set up for
en-US culture my fallback is Letter size not A4 (it's hard to even find a
store that sells A4 paper in the US).

But that does sound like the same behavior, I made a custom form, gave it my
own name and size of 9x12/in, but the document size still comes out 8.5x11. 
Whereas if I rename that very same form to archA, which apparently is a
standardized form name, all is well.



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Re:Sized Contents

2006-07-18 Thread thomas.webb
Have a look at Section 13 of the manual, 'lilypond-book--integrating 
text and music.' Easy! 
 
So, just to make sure, the only way to do this (create images of fragments) is 
by using lilypond-book to create html? I played around and got that working, 
but it would be much better if I could simply make just a png or eps and 
nothing else.

 about your operating system and which version of lilypond you run, as 
 well as how you installed it.  

I'm running version 2.6.3 on SuSE Linux, installed using YaST.




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Re: Sized Contents

2006-07-18 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
lilypond --helpGNU LilyPond 2.9.10Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE...Typeset music and/or produce MIDI from FILE.LilyPond produces beautiful music notation.For more information, see 
http://lilypond.orgOptions: -b, --backend=BACK use backend BACK (gnome, ps,eps, scm, svg, tex, texstr) default: PS
 -d, --define-default=SYM=VAL set a Scheme program option. Uses #t if VAL is not specified Try -dhelp for help. -e, --evaluate=EXPR evaluate scheme code -f, --formats=FORMATs dump FORMAT,... Also as separate options:
 --dvi generate DVI (tex backend only) --relocate relocate using directory of lilypond program --pdf generate PDF (default) --png generate PNG
 --ps generate PostScript --tex generate TeX (tex backend only) -h, --help print this help -H, --header=FIELD dump a header field to file 
BASENAME.FIELD -I, --include=DIR add DIR to search path -i, --init=FILE use FILE as init file --no-print do not generate printed output -o, --output=FILE write output to FILE (suffix will be added)
 -p, --preview generate a preview of the first system -s, --safe-mode disallow unsafe Scheme and PostScript operations -v, --version print version number
 -V, --verbose be verbose -w, --warranty show warranty and copyrightReport bugs via http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs
..and you also might want to look at the various ragged-* options (e.g ragged-right and ragged-bottom)/SOn 7/18/06, 
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Sized Contents

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas J. Webb
I also forgot to mention that the png output is sub-par. It need only use 
anti-aliasing to look as good as the pdf output. Is there an option for this? I 
searched through the manual and couldn't find anything.

-Thomas




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RE: Coexisting 2.8 with 2.4

2006-07-18 Thread Fairchild
Aha!  Not ecmr but ecrm.  I.e., the default seems to be ecrm10, slightly
different than cmr10.  Found the available list by searching for *.tfm
files.

Another year to find the 2.8 equivalent?

 - Bruce

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Subject: RE: Coexisting 2.8 with 2.4


The attached pdf shows the 2.4 default font set and cmr10.  Doesn't seem to
be any ecmr10, at least not with \override TextScript #'font-name =
#ecmr10

  - Bruce

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To: Fairchild
Cc: 'Karl Hammar'; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Coexisting 2.8 with 2.4


The fonts in 2.4 belonged to the European Computer Modern family, i.e. 
a version of cmr extended with all Latin1 characters.
For lyrics, the bold-narrow version was used, but for text scripts and
titling it was ecmr as far as I can remember, so it should be identical to
cmr.

  /Mats

Quoting Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Karl -

 Thanks for the pointers.

 I have many 2.4 scores with default font text tediously sized and 
 positioned, so would like to use, in 2.8, exactly the 2.4 default 
 font. I've been unable to determine what that is.  It looks very close 
 to, but not exactly, cmr10 (roman upright medium).

 - Bruce

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Quoting Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ...
  3)  How to get the 2.4 default font in 2.8?

 In 2.4, the only(!?) available fonts were the TeX fonts. In 2.8, you 
 have access to all the fonts that are available in your other windows 
 programs. However, I'm not sure how to install the TeX fonts, so that
 they are found via the Pango library that LilyPond now uses.
 The question has popped up a number of times on the mailing list, but
 it seems that nobody has managed to do it, even though I'm sure
 it's fully possible if you know how it works.
 ...

 The most common TeX fonts are available as type1 fonts, see:

  http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=psfchoice

 Follow the links at the bottom.

 (Which font was used by lilypond 2.4, was it computer modern?) If you 
 are after the computer modern, get:

  http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/fonts/amsfonts/ps-type1/amsps-pc.zip

 Regards,
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Some other articulations

2006-07-18 Thread Luise Marion Frenkel
Hello,

I am copying some arias from Bach's Passions, after Breitkopf/Dover, and 
I cannot find how to type in Lilypond 2.8.1 some articulations. I 
have looked through the 2.9 Manual, Tips  Tricks and Regression, to no 
avail.

1) (most important): accent steigend and accent fallend. I am 
mimicking these with \repeatTie but the localization is not good and 
results pretty ambiguous. To write them as acciacaturas with the 
grace note with note head and stem invisible is very cumbersome and 
does not seem good either.

2) a kind of trill, whose sign is not tr but some sort of tc or t+accent 
fallend. Seems impossible to immitate, so I am just writing a t in 
markup.

3) a prallup with a more pronounced up wich litterally goes up the 
next note because it is not written above the staff, but between the 
notes, and requires a greater spacing of the notes. I am just moving the 
existing prallup and remembering what it should be.

I would like to know if these are no longer seen as good engraving 
practice and for what they should be exchanged, or if they can be done 
using Lily.

Unfortunately I am completely unable to sponsor any related feature, 
although I would be happy to see these articulations included in 
Lilypond.

TIA,

Luise.


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Volta + rehearsal mark?

2006-07-18 Thread Stewart Holmes



This is either a bug, or a subtlety that I'm not 
understanding; clarification on either would be appreciated.

If you look at the output, notice that the markup 
is only correctly right-aligned when I use \override instead of \once 
\override.

I'm not really sure to do; I'm currently using 
\override, then \revert afterwards, butit doesn't feel like it should work 
as such.

Thanks,
Stewart
\version 2.8.0

\relative
{
	\time 4/4

	\repeat volta 2
	{
		\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #right 
		a1 \mark \markup { Markup }  |
	  
	}
	\alternative
	{
		{
			a |
		}
		{
			a |
		}
	}
	
	\break
	
	\repeat volta 2
	{
		\override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #right
		a \mark \markup { Markup }  |
	}
	\alternative
	{
		{
			a |
		}
		{
			a |
		}
	}
}
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Chord tremoli within a larger beamed figure?

2006-07-18 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

Is it possible to get a chord tremolo of the type given in
chord-tremolo.ly beamed *within* a larger beamed figure?

Here's a valid chord tremolo; note that the tremolo marks do not touch stems:

%%% VALID CHORD TREMOLO %%%

\version 2.9.11

\context Staff  \relative c' {
 \repeat tremolo  2 { c32 e32 }
}

%%% END %%%


And here I'd like to have that chord tremolo embedded inside the group
of 4 beamed eighths:

%%% FAILED CHORD TREMOLO INSIDE BEAM GROUP %%%

\version 2.9.11

\context Staff  \relative c' {
  b8[
 \repeat tremolo  2 { c32 e32 }
  f8]
}

%%% END %%%

In this second example (attached) the tremolo marks unfortunately *do*
touch stems (which is rhythmically incorrect by half). Also here  the
interpreter grumbles ...

Parsing...
Interpreting music...
programming error: Stem already has beam
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Stem already has beam
continuing, cross fingers
Preprocessing graphical objects...

... which probably means that chord tremoli within a larger beamed
group are specifically disallowed at present, yes?

Does anyone have a good way of embedding chord tremoli within a larger
beam? Is this a sponsorship opportunity?


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End-of-piece trill?

2006-07-18 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

What's the right way to end a piece with a trill on the last note?


%%% EX 1 %%%

\version 2.9.11

\new Staff {
  c'4
  d'4
  e'4
  f'4 \startTrillSpan \stopTrillSpan
}

%%% END EX 1 %%%

Example 1 causes the interpreter to say ...

Interpreting music...
257.ly:7:28: warning: can't find start of trill spanner
   f'4 \startTrillSpan
   \stopTrillSpan
257.ly:7:12: warning: unterminated trill spanner
   f'4
   \startTrillSpan \stopTrillSpan[1]

... and produce no trill spanner.


%%% EX 2 %%%

\version 2.9.11

\new Staff {
  c'4
  d'4
  e'4
  f'4 \startTrillSpan s4 \stopTrillSpan
}

%%% END %%%

Example 2 does produce the trill spanner, but with extra space at the
end of the piece.

Is there an explicit way to put a spanner on exactly one note?



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Re: End-of-piece trill?

2006-07-18 Thread Gianluca D.
Alle 03:22, mercoledì 19 luglio 2006, Trevor Bača ha scritto:
 \version 2.9.11

 \new Staff {
    c'4
    d'4
    e'4
    f'4 \startTrillSpan s4 \stopTrillSpan
 }

I think you could use the same trick it was posted some months ago about 
crescendo and decrescendo (I'm sorry I don't remeber who posted it):

%% START SNIPPET %%

\version 2.9.11

 \new Staff {
c'4
d'4
e'4
f'4*1/2 \startTrillSpan s4*1/2 \stopTrillSpan
 }

%% END SNIPPET %%

You can modify numbers (such as f4*1/3 ... s4*2/3  and so on) to adjust the 
length of the spanner. 
I've tried it and it seems to work as you'd like. I hope this can be of some 
use.

Best regards,

Gianluca D'Orazio


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Re: End-of-piece trill?

2006-07-18 Thread Trevor Bača

On 7/18/06, Gianluca D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alle 03:22, mercoledì 19 luglio 2006, Trevor Bača ha scritto:
 \version 2.9.11

 \new Staff {
 c'4
 d'4
 e'4
 f'4 \startTrillSpan s4 \stopTrillSpan
 }

I think you could use the same trick it was posted some months ago about
crescendo and decrescendo (I'm sorry I don't remeber who posted it):

%% START SNIPPET %%

\version 2.9.11

 \new Staff {
c'4
d'4
e'4
f'4*1/2 \startTrillSpan s4*1/2 \stopTrillSpan
 }

%% END SNIPPET %%

You can modify numbers (such as f4*1/3 ... s4*2/3  and so on) to adjust the
length of the spanner.
I've tried it and it seems to work as you'd like. I hope this can be of some
use.


Hi Gianluca,

Yes, that works perfectly. Many thanks!



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