Helmholtz-Ellis tuning sponsors?

2006-10-23 Thread jim altieri

Hi all,
 So, I'm working on a big just intonation piece.  I've come across Marc 
Sabat's Helmholtz-Ellis tuning system ( 
http://newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4191 ), and I dig it.  I'd really 
like these microtonal symbols integrated into Lilypond.  Would anyone 
else be up for co-sponsoring this with me? Han-Wen, is this a fairly 
straightforward task? He's already made the symbols available as TT fonts.

Thanks,
jim altieri


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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-23 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Daniel Tonda wrote:
Just revised the code I proposed and you're right. I wasn't aware that 
by using   one could remove the \simultaneous. Less typing indeed.

Right! \simultaneous{...} is completely equivalent to ...
Actually, the following is exactly equivalent to your example:
\version 2.9.19

VoiceANotes = \relative {
\voiceOne
fis8 a, d fis e fis, ais cis e
}
VoiceBNotes = \relative {
\voiceTwo
d,2 cis
}

Notation = 
\time 4/4
\clef G_8
\key d \major
\context Voice=VoiceA \VoiceANotes
\context Voice=VoiceB \VoiceBNotes


Tablature = 
\time 4/4
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t %% Makes stems transparent
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t %% Makes beams transparent
\context TabVoice=TabVoiceA \VoiceANotes
\context TabVoice=TabVoiceB \VoiceBNotes


\score {
\context StaffGroup 
  \context Staff=FullNotation \Notation
  \context TabStaff=FullTab \Tablature

}

  /Mats



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I'm Off :)

2006-10-23 Thread Ralph Little

Hi to all at Lilypond,
My family and I are off to Canada (from the UK) to live in the next few 
weeks, so I'm going to be off the air until I get sorted out over there 
with an internet connection.


When I'm sorted, I plan to finish off the Braille support - I'll have a 
fair bit more time over there so I should get it done now I have 
finished work over here.


Many thanks to all of you - you're a friendly bunch - see you on the 
other side ;)


Regards,
Ralph



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Fwd: Re: cross staff beams only in PianoStaff ?

2006-10-23 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
..
for the sake of the archives..
thanks Mats
--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: cross staff beams only in PianoStaff ?
Date: Sunday 22 October 2006 19:09
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mehmet,

I guess you forgot to include a copy to the mailing list. Feel free
to quote my answer there if you wish.

Try

\new PianoStaff \with{systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBracket }
 ... 

   /Mats

Quoting Mehmet Okonsar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 bracket instead of brace is good,
 but I'm composing a percussion trio and the upper of each group will have 3
 lines staff and the lower only 1 line. I hope there will be no problem
 crossing the staves..
 if you tell me how to get a bracket in a piano staff that will make
 it I think
 thanks

 On Sunday 22 October 2006 16:34, you wrote:
 The only important aspect of the Piano staff is that the distance
 between the staves is fixed. If you want to replace the curly brace
 with a bracket, for example, that's easy to fix. What kind of context
 did you want to use?

/Mats

 Quoting Mehmet Okonsar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I assume cross staff beams work only in a piano staff context?
  Am I right?
  (sigh..)
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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Mats Bengtsson escreveu:



Daniel Tonda wrote:
Just revised the code I proposed and you're right. I wasn't aware that 
by using   one could remove the \simultaneous. Less typing indeed.

Right! \simultaneous{...} is completely equivalent to ...
Actually, the following is exactly equivalent to your example:


I've added \simultaneous for consistency a long time ago, but maybe we 
should just drop it?


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I know this question was asked about a thousand times....

2006-10-23 Thread Valentin Villenave

...but since I consider myself as a newbie here, I hope you won't mind :)

Here am I : I've (almost) written a whole opera under Sibelius 3, and
I've been trying for ages to switch to Libre software, I mean our
favorite Lilypond forever...

The music I'm writing from now on is entirely genuine Lilypond-coded
(took me a couple hours a day during one month to learn but i'm done).
My question is : how about the music I wrote _before_ that, the tons
of .sib files on my HD ? Shall I rewrite it from scratch ? Is there
any way to spare me months and months of hard working ?

I tried MIDI export, I've also tried (actually I BOUGHT it) the Dolet
MusicXML export plugin. But it's still very very weak, and make a lot
of things disappear. I've even tried insane solutions, like printing
scores in PDF, and using some music-scanning software to recover it...
let me tell you : it's ugly.

The Makemusic Sibelius and Recordare guys are certainly doing great,
but gosh !! The hell with closed-source software !!
I know .sib files are compressed and somehow encrypted, and therefore
quite difficult to disassemble ; is there any sponsoring stuff to
make it possible however ?

Or is there any other advice anyone can give me ?
Thank you everybody. By the way, I find the Lilypond community is one
of the nicest I've ever met :)


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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-23 Thread Nigel Tao

Thanks to everyone for their help.  In the end, I just went with the
simplest thing, since my piece is pretty short, and copy 'n' paste is
so easy.

In case anyone's interested (Aussies in particular might get a kick
out of this one), I posted a CC-SA licensed score and recording at
http://blogs.gnome.org/view/nigeltao/2006/10/22/0


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Re: I know this question was asked about a thousand times....

2006-10-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Valentin Villenave escreveu:

...but since I consider myself as a newbie here, I hope you won't mind :)

Here am I : I've (almost) written a whole opera under Sibelius 3, and
I've been trying for ages to switch to Libre software, I mean our
favorite Lilypond forever...

The music I'm writing from now on is entirely genuine Lilypond-coded
(took me a couple hours a day during one month to learn but i'm done).
My question is : how about the music I wrote _before_ that, the tons
of .sib files on my HD ? Shall I rewrite it from scratch ? Is there
any way to spare me months and months of hard working ?



I know .sib files are compressed and somehow encrypted, and therefore
quite difficult to disassemble ; is there any sponsoring stuff to
make it possible however ?

Or is there any other advice anyone can give me ?


The musicxml importer isn't that good and can be improved, but if the 
problems are on the Dolet side, you're SOL obviously.


IF you're looking for a technical solution, find someone who is willing 
to reverse engineer Sib.  You can do it by disassembling a demo (the 
demos don't come with EULAs).


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utf-8

2006-10-23 Thread dubcek

For about a year now. I have been using Lilypond. I was very happy with it,
very very happy. Until the day that I tried to write a French title in which
there was a letter with an accent. 
Ever since, no matter what I have done, I have failed to produce a pdf file
that displayed the character properly.
I am using a Windows XP machine.
First I used the lilypond offered through cygwin. That worked until I tried
the letter with the accent.
I have used emacs through cygwin, then the latest version of Xemacs without
Cygwin. Nothing worked.
I updated lilypond through cygwin only to get no characters at all any more.
When I read that it was better to use lilypond for Windows, I switched (the
characters now were better than ever before, but still no character with an
accent.
Finally, I switched editors, tried Editpad. To no avail.
I have spent innumerable hours trying to solve the problem. There must be a
simple solution, for I have seen a source file with the line in the header
saying inputencoding=utf-8. I copied that trick. Lilypond handled it
without protesting. But no accented character. 
Who can tell me in clear language how to lick the problem?

Thanks.
dubcek.
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Re: utf-8

2006-10-23 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Open the file in Emacs, press CTRL-x Return f and enter: utf-8
You should see a -u at the bottom left corner of the window.
Then, the next time you save the file, it should be in UTF-8.

This didn't work for me the first time I tried it, since I had
an old .emacs file that changed some of the default settings. What 
helped then (as a temporary fix until I had cleaned up my .emacs file) 
was Meta-x toggle-enable-multibyte-characters.


  /Mats


Quoting dubcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



For about a year now. I have been using Lilypond. I was very happy with it,
very very happy. Until the day that I tried to write a French title in which
there was a letter with an accent.
Ever since, no matter what I have done, I have failed to produce a pdf file
that displayed the character properly.
I am using a Windows XP machine.
First I used the lilypond offered through cygwin. That worked until I tried
the letter with the accent.
I have used emacs through cygwin, then the latest version of Xemacs without
Cygwin. Nothing worked.
I updated lilypond through cygwin only to get no characters at all any more.
When I read that it was better to use lilypond for Windows, I switched (the
characters now were better than ever before, but still no character with an
accent.
Finally, I switched editors, tried Editpad. To no avail.
I have spent innumerable hours trying to solve the problem. There must be a
simple solution, for I have seen a source file with the line in the header
saying inputencoding=utf-8. I copied that trick. Lilypond handled it
without protesting. But no accented character.
Who can tell me in clear language how to lick the problem?

Thanks.
dubcek.
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Re: utf-8

2006-10-23 Thread Martial

Save your  Lilypond script in utf-8

with notepad (in windowsXP)
your music.ly
save as
code utf-8

run Lilypond and  :)
attachment: utf-8.jpg
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RE: utf-8

2006-10-23 Thread Kress, Stephen
Title: RE: utf-8







As an extension to Mats' response (doing C-x RET f RET utf-8 RET to set the file's encoding), you may also want to use (M-X ucs-insert RET unicode-hex-code RET) to enter specific characters by their hex codes (see www.unicode.org/charts/ for all the UNICODE code point charts).

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To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: utf-8


For about a year now. I have been using Lilypond. I was very happy with it,
very very happy. Until the day that I tried to write a French title in which
there was a letter with an accent.
Ever since, no matter what I have done, I have failed to produce a pdf file
that displayed the character properly.
I am using a Windows XP machine.
First I used the lilypond offered through cygwin. That worked until I tried
the letter with the accent.
I have used emacs through cygwin, then the latest version of Xemacs without
Cygwin. Nothing worked.
I updated lilypond through cygwin only to get no characters at all any more.
When I read that it was better to use lilypond for Windows, I switched (the
characters now were better than ever before, but still no character with an
accent.
Finally, I switched editors, tried Editpad. To no avail.
I have spent innumerable hours trying to solve the problem. There must be a
simple solution, for I have seen a source file with the line in the header
saying inputencoding=utf-8. I copied that trick. Lilypond handled it
without protesting. But no accented character.
Who can tell me in clear language how to lick the problem?

Thanks.
dubcek.
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Lyrics collide with barlines

2006-10-23 Thread Catalin Francu

Hi,

I have typeset over 100 pages of music with Lilypond 2.8.6 last month
and there's only one thing that I could not figure out how to do.
Every now and then, lyrics will collide with barlines. See for
example:

http://catalin.francu.com/Music/colinde/

(some Romanian carols). Look at la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.ly and the
generated la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.pdf. You'll see the collisions right
from the first system. The documentation proposes a solution here:

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vocal-music.html#Vocal-music

However, that doesn't work well for me. See the modified
la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.ly and la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.pdf in the same
folder. Two unwanted effects happen when I do what the manual says:

- The bar lines now extend down, including the bass lyrics (before,
they ended on the bass staff)
- Some non-simple barlines (such as the repeat barline after measure
18) appear chopped in pieces.

Ideally, I'd like a way to tell Lilypond I want at least two mm of
space between barlines and text.

Other than that, big big kudos (I wish I only had one gripe with every
software package I used).

Catalin


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Re: Hiding ledger Lines

2006-10-23 Thread Trevor Bača

What about

 \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t

?


On 10/21/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try \override LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t
(or possibly \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t
I haven't tried it myself).

   /Mats

Quoting Mehmet Okonsar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 is there a way to hide ledger lines?
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Re: Repositioning \tempo, and one other question

2006-10-23 Thread Marcus Macauley

OnionRingOfDoom wrote:

Like the subject says, is there any way to reposition the \tempo mark?  
I'd

love to be able to move it a bit to the left.


First, here's the fish:

\once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'X-offset = #-2

right before your first tempo mark to move it 2 spaces to the left. To  
move all of them the same way, omit \once.


Now, here's an example how to fish for this solution yourself: ;)

Go to the Documentation page for your version of Lilypond;
Click on User manual;
Scroll down, click on Appendix H LilyPond index
Find \tempo, and follow the link to Metronome marks
Notice the \override example at the bottom:
  \override Score.MetronomeMark #'padding = #2.5
To see what other settings (besides padding) are available,
Click on Program reference: MetronomeMark;
Notice the Standard settings listed;
Click on this-interface and that-interface at the bottom to see more  
available settings;
If you didn't know whether to use Score.MetronomeMark (rather than  
Staff.MetronomeMark or whatever), you could click on:

MetronomeMark objects are created by: Metronome_mark_engraver
and see at the bottom of that page:
Metronome_mark_engraver is part of contexts: Score
which would tell you what to use for Context in Context.MetronomeMark.
If the context is Voice, then you can usually omit it, e.g.:
\override TextScript ...
instead of
\override Voice.TextScript

Hope that helps!

Marcus

P.S. I don't know about your second question, concerning instrument names.  
I would try removing '= Soprano' and see if that helps, but that's just  
a guess.



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Guitar Tablature problems and Hammer on and Pull Offs

2006-10-23 Thread Andy Denley

hi there,

http://www.nabble.com/file/3817/12bar.pdf 12bar.pdf 

I have a few questions about tablature and putting hammer ons and pull offs.
I am using version 2.8.7 under Windows environment. And yes I am a newbie at
this and I cant seem to find anything in the docs to this. 

Firstly when I put in some code for tablature and I want an Open E (6th
string) it puts the tab on the 12th fret on the 6th string. It does this
with all of my tab, its seems I cant get it to use open strings or under the
12th fret. 

Example:

\header{
title=12 Bar Blues in E Major
composer = Andy D
}

\version 2.8.7

{
\time 4/4
\key e \major
e8 e gis gis
b b cis' cis'
e' e' gis gis
b b cis' (b)
}
\new TabStaff 
{
e8\6 e\6 gis\6 gis\6
b\5 b\5 cis'\5 cis'\5
e'\4 e'\4 gis\6 gis\6
b\5 b\5 cis'\5 (b)\5
}
{
a a cis' cis'
e' e' fis' fis'
a' a' cis' cis' 
e' e' fis' (e')
}
\new TabStaff 
{
a\5 a\5 cis'\5 cis'\5
e'\4 e'\4 fis'\4 fis'\4
a'\3 a'\3 cis'\5 cis'\5 
e'\4 e'\4 fis'\4 (e')\4

\repeat volta 1 {}
}

{
b b dis dis
fis' fis' gis' (fis')
a a cis' cis'
e' e' fis' (e')
}
\new TabStaff 
{
b\5 b\5 dis\5 dis\5
fis'\4 fis'\4 gis'\4 (fis')\4
a\5 a\5 cis'\5 cis'\5
e'\4 e'\4 fis'\4 (e')\4
}
{
e e gis gis
b b cis' (b)
}
\new TabStaff 
{
e\6 e\6 gis\6 gis\6
b\5 b\5 cis'\5 (b)\5
}

Is there a way to force it? 

Also when I put in the last area of tab I get 1 peice of tab per bar.
(Grrr!!!) I cant seem to solve this either. Is this a bug? 

And my final question is on how do I do a hammer on and pull off in both tab
and normal notation? 

Many thanks for your time and answers.

Andy D

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Re: Guitar Tablature problems and Hammer on and Pull Offs

2006-10-23 Thread Nigel Tao

Firstly when I put in some code for tablature and I want an Open E (6th
string) it puts the tab on the 12th fret on the 6th string. It does this
with all of my tab, its seems I cant get it to use open strings or under the
12th fret.


Classical guitar is actually written one octave higher than it sounds
(or vice versa, I forget).  Use the comma to make the actual (as it
sounds) notes one octave lower, to get

e,8\6 e,\6 gis,\6 gis,\6

(for which the \6 actually becomes unnecessary) rather than

e8\6 e\6 gis\6 gis\6

Things will then look right in the tablature.  To compensate for this
in the regular notation, use

\clef G_8

rather than the standard treble clef.


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