Re: acciaccatura slash on beamed eighth notes

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson

There is no direct support for such slashed beams in LilyPond, but if you
search the mailing list archives, you should find some tricks that people
have used as a workaround. Basically, what you can do is to add a slash
as a text script and then move it around to the desired position.

  /Mats

Frédéric Chiasson wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to transcribe one of my own compositions on Lilypond 
2.9.28. I need to have slash beamed gracenotes. I didn't find any way 
to do it on the mailing list. Did I miss something?


The slashed beamed gracenote groups are quite common in contemporary 
music. I can give you some scanned examples if you need.


Thanks for your answers,

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Re: slurs

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The slurs follow the musical voices (i.e. the Voice contexts in 
LilyPond), so
as long as you let the voice change staff, the slur will follow. See the 
example
called slur-cross-staff.ly in the Regression Test document included in 
the on-line

documentation for your version of LilyPond.

  /Mats

Christopher A. LaFond wrote:
Is there a way to initiate a slur on one staff and have it end on 
another? For example, in a piano or harp arpeggio that starts in the 
bass cleff and moves into the treble clef?




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acciaccatura slash on beamed eighth notes

2006-11-06 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Hello,I am trying to transcribe one of my own compositions on Lilypond 2.9.28. I need to have slash beamed gracenotes. I didn't find any way to do it on the mailing list. Did I miss something?The slashed beamed gracenote groups are quite common in contemporary music. I can give you some scanned examples if you need.
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Re: [Q] Rehearsal marks in parts

2006-11-06 Thread Victor Eijkhout
On Nov 6, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Graham Percival wrote:Please send future bug reports to the bug-lilypond mailist. Will do. I wasn't sure that this was a bug. There could have been good reasons for it, and I've now learned the trick of putting all marks in a silent part, which is a better way of avoiding mistakes in mark locations.Victor.___
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OS X version 10.2.8

2006-11-06 Thread Van
I  have OSX vs. 10.2.8. What problems will I encounter 
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slurs

2006-11-06 Thread Christopher A. LaFond
Is there a way to initiate a slur on one staff and have it end on 
another? For example, in a piano or harp arpeggio that starts in the 
bass cleff and moves into the treble clef?


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Re: Golpe & Slap

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson

There are several markup commands, where the exact layout depends
on some property settings. See the documentation of the \override 
markup command in "Overview of Markup Commands".


/Mats


Quoting Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Thank you.
This is exactly what I need.
But how do you specify the box's line thickness.
The documentation says: "\box: Looks at thickness, box-padding and
font-size" but it doesn't mention how to set them.






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How to use thickness with \box in \markup ? Was: Golpe & Slap

2006-11-06 Thread Kamal

-- Forwarded message --
From: Alexander Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Nov 6, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: How to use thickness with \box in \markup ? Was: Golpe & Slap
To: Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi,

Am 06.11.2006 um 19:16 schrieb Kamal:


Thank you.
This is exactly what I need.
But how do you specify the box's line thickness.
The documentation says: "\box: Looks at thickness, box-padding and
font-size" but it doesn't mention how to set them.


I have no idea either. I changed the subject to draw some attention...

Alex




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Am 29.10.2006 um 22:37 schrieb Kamal:

> How can a golpe or a slap notation be achieved in lilypond?
> 
> 
>

You can use the \markup command: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/
Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-
commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands

slap = \markup{ \box \pad-around #-0.1 \fontsize #-2 \sans "x" }
golpe = \markup{ \box  \fontsize #+4 "." }

c^\slap d^\golpe


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Re: Slur usage

2006-11-06 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)



Eduardo Vieira-3 wrote:
> 
> Hello list, is there a musical difference between these two styles of
> slurring?
> 
> { e( f() g) } and { e( f g) }
> 
> I have seen songs using either style. Which is more proper? Personally I
> prefer
> the latter. But I'm not a musician.
> 
> Eduardo
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Example 2.

I could maybe see example 1 used if there were other voices present as well. 
But in this case example 1 is redundant because the player cant
re-articulate a second slur at the F anyway, so why use 2 slurs?  The only
way someone can articulate the second slur would be to stop and re-start the
F but then they would not be playing whats written.


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Re: Slur usage

2006-11-06 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:32:01AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
> Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> >Hello list, is there a musical difference between these two styles of 
> >slurring?
> >
> >{ e( f() g) } and { e( f g) }
> >
> >I have seen songs using either style. Which is more proper? Personally I 
> >prefer
> >the latter. But I'm not a musician.
> 
> As a string player, the latter is preferred.  However, the first one 
> might makes sense with other instruments (winds, singers maybe?)
> 
> - Graham
I'm a brass player, and I would definitely prefer the second. I don't recall 
seeing a lot of the first in the music I've played.

Of course, that;s just me.


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Re: [Q] Rehearsal marks in parts

2006-11-06 Thread Graham Percival

Victor Eijkhout wrote:

parta = { r1 \mark\default r1 }
partb = { c1 \mark\default c1 }

\score {
<<
\new Staff = "x" {\parta}
\new Staff = "y" {\partb}
 >>
}


Thanks, I have added this as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=149

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Re: Slur usage

2006-11-06 Thread Graham Percival

Eduardo Vieira wrote:

Hello list, is there a musical difference between these two styles of slurring?

{ e( f() g) } and { e( f g) }

I have seen songs using either style. Which is more proper? Personally I prefer
the latter. But I'm not a musician.


As a string player, the latter is preferred.  However, the first one 
might makes sense with other instruments (winds, singers maybe?)


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Re: Golpe & Slap

2006-11-06 Thread Kamal

Thank you.
This is exactly what I need.
But how do you specify the box's line thickness.
The documentation says: "\box: Looks at thickness, box-padding and
font-size" but it doesn't mention how to set them.


On 11/5/06, Alexander Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Am 29.10.2006 um 22:37 schrieb Kamal:

> How can a golpe or a slap notation be achieved in lilypond?
> 
> 
>

You can use the \markup command: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/
Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-
commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands

slap = \markup{ \box \pad-around #-0.1 \fontsize #-2 \sans "x" }
golpe = \markup{ \box  \fontsize #+4 "." }

c^\slap d^\golpe


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A question about PartCombiner

2006-11-06 Thread Gianluca D.
Hi everybody,
I'd like to ask if anyone knows a way to make PartCombine print the "a2" mark 
at the beginning of every system ( or after every line-break) until the two 
voices are together, as a reminder (particularly useful at the beginning of a 
new page).
Thank you,

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Re: beam breaking in tuplets

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 06 November 2006 12:59, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Erik Sandberg wrote:
> > On Monday 06 November 2006 09:25, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> >
> > Mats, do you think it would be useful with an operator \newClone to clone
> > the current context? E.g.
> > \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
> >  { c d \tiny  e f \newClone Staff { g f e d} c d e }
> > would be equivalent to:
> > \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
> >  { c d \tiny e f \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz} {
> > \tiny g f e d} c d e }
> >
> > (I think such operator can come out as a side-effect of some work I'm
> > doing)
>
> Would it even make sense to make this the default behaviour of \new?
> At least, it would probably cause less surprise to a newbie than the
> current implementation, in examples like:
>  \relative c'{ \tiny c d <<{e d} \\ {c b}>> }

You have a point here. Perhaps we could have a context property 
cloneNewContexts, defaulted to #t for voices, which makes sure that contexts 
creations in the current context clone the current context, if the context 
types match. (so below, the context hierarchy would be Global-Score-Lyrics 
where the inner Voice is created, hence no settings would be inherited; this 
also means that the inner \new Voice should create a new staff implicitly).

I think the difficult thing is that the syntactical hierarchy of our input 
language doesn't match the hierarchy of contexts.

> On the other hand, it would probably make it less obvious for the advanced
> user to predict exactly what LilyPond does, for example in situations like
>
> \relative c' \new Voice{
>   c d e f
>   <<
> c1
> \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
>   Some4 text
>   << \new Voice \notemode { c d e2 }
>  {some more text }
>
> }
>
> }
> where it's not obvious if the inner Voice context would inherit anything
> from the outer one (maybe this is already crystal clear to you).

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Slur usage

2006-11-06 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Hello list, is there a musical difference between these two styles of slurring?

{ e( f() g) } and { e( f g) }

I have seen songs using either style. Which is more proper? Personally I prefer
the latter. But I'm not a musician.

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Re: misusing arpeggios

2006-11-06 Thread Alexander Rose


Am 05.11.2006 um 22:38 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


One solution is [...]
  /Mats


Nice, it works fine, thanks! But I think I found a bug, when you use  
fingering instructions on the left in that setting. See attached  
example.


For the record: I also put your solution into a function for easier  
reuse.


A question: Is there a way to leave the \relative context inside the  
\relative{ ... }, like \relative{ c c \absPitches{ e f g'' e} } ? I  
would like to do that from within a music-function.



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Re: changing proportional notation duration in mid-line

2006-11-06 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am 06. November 2006, 13:09 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
> Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example:
> 
> \relative c'{
>  c d e f g f e d
>  \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )
>  c d e f g f e d
>  \unset Score.proportionalNotationDuration
>  c d e f g f e d
> }

Thanks a lot, Mats. Both suggestions worked. You made my day!

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Re: changing proportional notation duration in mid-line

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example:

\relative c'{
 c d e f g f e d
 \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )
 c d e f g f e d
 \unset Score.proportionalNotationDuration
 c d e f g f e d
}

  /Mats

Orm Finnendahl wrote:

Hi,

I would like to change the amount of horizontal space for a specified
duration in the middle of a line (reflecting a tempo change) globally
(without having to deal with compress music for each staff).

Is there a way to override the setting of
Score.proportionalNotationDuration on the fly, or can someone think of
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Re: beam breaking in tuplets

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Erik Sandberg wrote:

On Monday 06 November 2006 09:25, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
  

Victor Eijkhout wrote:
So, if you want a limited scope, you can explicitly create a short-lived
context.
Here's an example that uses smaller note heads for one measure:

\relative c'{ c d e f \new Voice {\tiny g f e d } c d e d c1 }

   /Mats



Mats, do you think it would be useful with an operator \newClone to clone the 
current context? E.g.

\new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
 { c d \tiny  e f \newClone Staff { g f e d} c d e }
would be equivalent to:
\new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
 { c d \tiny e f \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz} { \tiny g 
f e d} c d e }


(I think such operator can come out as a side-effect of some work I'm doing)
  

Would it even make sense to make this the default behaviour of \new?
At least, it would probably cause less surprise to a newbie than the
current implementation, in examples like:
\relative c'{ \tiny c d <<{e d} \\ {c b}>> }
On the other hand, it would probably make it less obvious for the advanced
user to predict exactly what LilyPond does, for example in situations like

\relative c' \new Voice{
 c d e f
 <<
   c1
   \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
 Some4 text
 << \new Voice \notemode { c d e2 }
{some more text }
 >>
   }
 >>
}
where it's not obvious if the inner Voice context would inherit anything
from the outer one (maybe this is already crystal clear to you).

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Re: parametrized macros

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I hope you have looked in the manual for version 2.9, which is much better
than version 2.8 in this aspect. In particular, look into section "Advanced
tweaks with Scheme" and references therein.

  /Mats

Orm Finnendahl wrote:

Hi,

can someone point me to the documentation of parametrized definitions?
Here's what I want to do:

I need to set time signatures above the score without using horizontal
space. Therefore I removed the time signature engraver and added a
markup at each bar with a changed time signature like this:

s1*0^\markup { \hspace #-2 \column 
		   { \line {\hspace#-0.5 \override #'(font-name . "Helvetica Bold") \raise #-0.8 "3" }

 \line {\hspace#-0.5 \override #'(font-name . "Helvetica Bold") 
"4"}}}

Since there are many time signature changes in the piece (nearly every
measure), I'd like to define the above expression as a macro with the
nominator and denominator as parameters.

I looked for quite a while but couldn't find the right place in the
documentation.

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parametrized macros

2006-11-06 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

can someone point me to the documentation of parametrized definitions?
Here's what I want to do:

I need to set time signatures above the score without using horizontal
space. Therefore I removed the time signature engraver and added a
markup at each bar with a changed time signature like this:

s1*0^\markup { \hspace #-2 \column 
   { \line {\hspace#-0.5 \override #'(font-name . "Helvetica 
Bold") \raise #-0.8 "3" }
 \line {\hspace#-0.5 \override #'(font-name . "Helvetica 
Bold") "4"}}}

Since there are many time signature changes in the piece (nearly every
measure), I'd like to define the above expression as a macro with the
nominator and denominator as parameters.

I looked for quite a while but couldn't find the right place in the
documentation.

Thanks for any help,
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changing proportional notation duration in mid-line

2006-11-06 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

I would like to change the amount of horizontal space for a specified
duration in the middle of a line (reflecting a tempo change) globally
(without having to deal with compress music for each staff).

Is there a way to override the setting of
Score.proportionalNotationDuration on the fly, or can someone think of
another way?

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Re: beam breaking in tuplets

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 06 November 2006 09:25, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Victor Eijkhout wrote:
> So, if you want a limited scope, you can explicitly create a short-lived
> context.
> Here's an example that uses smaller note heads for one measure:
>
> \relative c'{ c d e f \new Voice {\tiny g f e d } c d e d c1 }
>
>/Mats

Mats, do you think it would be useful with an operator \newClone to clone the 
current context? E.g.
\new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
 { c d \tiny  e f \newClone Staff { g f e d} c d e }
would be equivalent to:
\new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz}
 { c d \tiny e f \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar=#'baz} { \tiny g 
f e d} c d e }

(I think such operator can come out as a side-effect of some work I'm doing)

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Re: overriding Auto Beam

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Chris probably wants
c4. c8[ b a ]

  /Mats

Panteck wrote:

Try:  c4. c8 b8[ a8]

The [] characters are used to manually start and stop beams.

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Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:23 PM
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Subject: overriding Auto Beam

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to Lilypond and to the list, and I'm hoping that someone can 
answer what should be an easy question.


I have a measure with a dotted quarter, then three eighth notes (in 3/4 
time). I don't want the first of the three eighth notes to beam to the 
other two, but can't get it to unbeam. Here is the line:


c4. c8 b8 a8

  


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Re: beam breaking in tuplets

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Victor Eijkhout wrote:
 Beam breaking is a visual operation, not a mathematical one. I want a 
sixteenth beam broken at any beat boundary, no matter whether this is 
in 4/4 time or in a 27 over 26 fragment.


I don't agree completely. Beam breaking is used to clarify the rhythmic 
structure,

so you have to tell LilyPond where the beats are.


Btw, that raises another question I''ve been meaning to ask: do 
assignments have scope? Can I limit this beam setting overriding to 
one fragment, without explicitly restoring the old rules? (Lilypond 
looks so much like TeX that I would really expect such a mechanism to 
exist.)


If you do a \set ... or \override ..., the setting will be active within 
the current
context (unless you explicitly specify \set Score. ... or whatever other 
level in
the context hierarchy) from the current moment until the context dies 
(or you
change the setting). Even though the #(override-auto-beam-setting) is a 
function
that is slightly more advanced than an ordinary \set or \override, the 
scoping

principle is the same.

So, if you want a limited scope, you can explicitly create a short-lived 
context.

Here's an example that uses smaller note heads for one measure:

\relative c'{ c d e f \new Voice {\tiny g f e d } c d e d c1 }

  /Mats



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