Fwd: Test

2007-08-18 Thread Jonas Nyström
Hi!

Being a Lilypond newbee, I want to check with you if this is possible:

I want to create an inivisble sync part with sync noteheads drawn in
white.
Main reasons:

   1. The invisible white noteheads of the sync part should produce
   clickable  links in the output pdf. These links, and their coordinates on
   the the pdf-page, could be used as a basis for syncing a graphical moving
   pointer to a wav playback of the example. (I'm using a midi to wav for
   converting, so I know what the playback position of the notes are in the wav
   file...)

   2. The invisible sync part could produce a metronome click midi
   track.

I would prefer the sync part to NOT affect the x-spacing of the visible
parts.
Have a look at the jpg file, hopefully it should make things clearer.

Best regards!
Jonas Nyström
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Invisible sync part - is this possible?

2007-08-18 Thread Jonas Nyström
Hi!

(Sorry for posting this earlier with wrong subject header..!)

Being a Lilypond newbee, I want to check with you if this is possible:

I want to create an inivisble sync part with sync noteheads drawn in
white.
Main reasons:

   1. The invisible white noteheads of the sync part should produce
   clickable  links in the output pdf. These links, and their coordinates on
   the the pdf-page, could be used as a basis for syncing a graphical moving
   pointer to a wav playback of the example. (I'm using a midi to wav for
   converting, so I know what the playback position of the notes are in the wav
   file...)

   2. The invisible sync part could produce a metronome click midi
   track.

I would prefer the sync part to NOT affect the x-spacing of the visible
parts.
Have a look at the jpg file, hopefully it should make things clearer.

Best regards!
Jonas Nyström
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Re: Test

2007-08-18 Thread Jonas Nyström
Sorry for posting this with wrong subject header!
I've given it another try!

Jonas
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Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Terpstra

Dear Readers,

I don't get this.

\stemup gives me a lot of errors but works, Stem #'neutral-direction = #up
does nothing. Its about the middle (Alt) voice.

This is the case:
~ Start snippet
\relative c''
% Treble
  {  \repeat volta 2 { 
 g,= b  4 a c   c e  |  b d  4. g b  8 a c   b d   |   % 3
 c e  4 d fis   e g  | cis! d r | \break   % 5
 b d 4. b'8  a g  | g-44 fis8  c d   c d   c d   }
}
% Alt
\\  { \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #up
\override Stem #'length-fraction = #0.2
s2. s   % 3
s s   % 5
s4. b=8  b b  s4 c4. s }
% Bass
\\  { \stemDown 
   
g,=,2. r4 g' r   % 3
r8 g4 g g8 ais!  g  b4 s   % 5
g8  d  g  d g d  s4 a'8  d, a' d, fis d }

}
~ End ly snippet.

TIA,

   Peter


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Re: Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Terpstra
Peter Terpstra in [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

Lilypond version is 2.10.29

P.


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Re: Proposed chord name font (PDF included)

2007-08-18 Thread Tao Cumplido
Maybe it would be really better than to have a single font for chords.
I created my font with letters and numbers from CentureySchL and sharp and flat 
from emmentaler and I can type G4 to get G4.
If I type GS4 the output will be Gsus4 or if I just type GS i get just Gsus 
(which is the way I prefer).

The problem in Lilypond is I think that it tries to connect explicit tones to a 
chord symbol (correct me if I am wrong).
But chord names shouldn't be like that, they should be just text and let the 
interpreter have some space to make his/her own thing of the chord name.
for example the symbol C7alt. means a dominant seventh chord with altered 
extensions where it is free to the interpreter if he/she raises or lowers the 
ninth.

with the font and mats suggestion to use them as a lyricline I don't have much 
problems anymore with typing chord names into my scores.
only as pablo pointed out the transpose function is lost and I have to create a 
new chord line for tranposed instruments. but that's only a minor problem.
I don't know about legal issues since I copied glyphs from CenturySchL and 
emmentaler but if someone tells me it's ok I'd like to post a table of my font 
so you can see how it works.

regards,

Tao

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:05:55 +0200
Von: Dominic Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: PabloZum [EMAIL PROTECTED], lilypond-user@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: Proposed chord name font (PDF included)

 Maybe it would be a good idea to make all the chordname things more
 flexible for the users. For example, it would be nice to rename some
 chord names like one can already do with \set majorSevenSymbol =
 \markup { ... }.
 
 I´d like to have this for the sus4 chords, because i like it more to
 have G4 that Gsus4.
 
 So it would be nice if all these new ideas for chords would then be
 usable and extensible for every user.
 
 
 2007/7/30, PabloZum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
   Do you want users to be able to write out any _chord_ (which is a
  collection of notes), or any _chord name_ (which is a description for a
  collection of notes)?
 
 
   Are chord names unique for a collection of notes, or can there be
 multiple
  chord names for one collection of notes?
 
  I want to be able to write out any chord *name*. I'm in the early stages
 of
  writing a book in two versions, one in English and one in Brazilian
  Portuguese. The Brazilian chord naming standard is different from both
 the
  European and the American ones, and is not supported in LilyPond's
 current
  version; neither is the American jazz chord naming standard, with
 stacked
  modifiers.
 
  I'm currently trying out an idea given by Mats Bengtsson in the users
 forum,
  which is to write out the chord names as an additional set of timed
 lyrics
  above the score. It's easy to do and it works fine, except that the
  transposing function is lost.
 
  All the same, I'd like to try and learn how to write sourcecode for
  LilyPond. Is there a manual or a tutorial? I've looked around but just
 found
  a tutorial  manual for users, not for developers.
 
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RE: Test

2007-08-18 Thread Ed Ardzinski
Could you use a rhythm context and only include it in the midi output?


Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:28:40 +0200From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
lilypond-user@gnu.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fwd: TestCC: Hi!Being a Lilypond 
newbee, I want to check with you if this is possible:I want to create an 
inivisble sync part with sync noteheads drawn in white. Main reasons:

The invisible white noteheads of the sync part should produce clickable  
links in the output pdf. These links, and their coordinates on the the 
pdf-page, could be used as a basis for syncing a graphical moving pointer to a 
wav playback of the example. (I'm using a midi to wav for converting, so I know 
what the playback position of the notes are in the wav file...) 
The invisible sync part could produce a metronome click midi track.I would 
prefer the sync part to NOT affect the x-spacing of the visible parts.Have a 
look at the jpg file, hopefully it should make things clearer. Best 
regards!Jonas Nyström
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Re: Test

2007-08-18 Thread Jonas Nyström
Hi Ed!

That gives me the information for a midi click track, but it doesn't solve
the tricky part of calculating the music placement coordinates on the
page... The only solution that I can see is using the PDF coordinates for
the noteheads...

Jonas

2007/8/18, Ed Ardzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Could you use a rhythm context and only include it in the midi output?


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 CC:

 Hi!

 Being a Lilypond newbee, I want to check with you if this is possible:

 I want to create an inivisble sync part with sync noteheads drawn in
 white.
 Main reasons:

1. The invisible white noteheads of the sync part should produce
clickable  links in the output pdf. These links, and their coordinates on
the the pdf-page, could be used as a basis for syncing a graphical moving
pointer to a wav playback of the example. (I'm using a midi to wav for
converting, so I know what the playback position of the notes are in the 
 wav
file...)

2. The invisible sync part could produce a metronome click midi
track.

 I would prefer the sync part to NOT affect the x-spacing of the visible
 parts.
 Have a look at the jpg file, hopefully it should make things clearer.

 Best regards!
 Jonas Nyström


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Re: Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Peter,

On 8/18/07, Peter Terpstra  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear Readers,

 I don't get this.

 \stemup gives me a lot of errors but works, Stem #'neutral-direction =
 #up
 does nothing. Its about the middle (Alt) voice.


I think you're confused as to the purpose of #'neutral-direction: it sets
the default behaviour of stems on the centre line of the stave. Compare the
following:

\relative c'' {
g4 a b c %default, stem on b points down
\override Stem #'neutral-direction = #up
g a b c %override, stem points up
}

Since your alto voice is lower down, it has no effect.

You can set the default stem directions using \voiceThree and \voiceFour,
then use #'force-hshift to tidy up the alto voice:

\relative c''
% Treble
  { \time 3/4 \repeat volta 2 {
g,= b  4 a c   c e  |  b d  4. g b  8 a c   b d   |
% 3
c e  4 d fis   e g  | cis! d r | \break   % 5
b d 4. b'8  a g  | g-44 fis8  c d   c d   c d   }
}
% Alt
\\  { \voiceThree
   s2. s   % 3
   s s   % 5
   s4.
   \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #0 %Force quavers back into
alignment with treble voice
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(- 1.5 . -2) %This works better
than #'length-fraction
   b=8  b b \revert NoteColumn #'force-hshift s4 c4. s }
% Bass
\\  { \voiceFour

   g,=,2. r4 g' r   % 3
   r8 g4 g g8 ais!  g  b4 s   % 5
   g8  d  g  d g d  s4 a'8  d, a' d, fis d }


Regards,
Neil
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Re: Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Terpstra
Neil Puttock in
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Thanks for your answer! 

 \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(- 1.5 . -2) %This works better
 than #'length-fraction

This gives me errors and the stem comes down, while #'length-fraction
works without any complaint.

Kind regads,

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Re: Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Terpstra
Peter Terpstra in [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


 This gives me errors

Sorry errors, but the stem does not get shorter.

Kind regards,

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Re: Stem #'neutral-direction = #up versus \stemup

2007-08-18 Thread Neil Puttock
On 8/18/07, Peter Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter Terpstra in [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  This gives me errors

 Sorry errors, but the stem does not get shorter.

 Kind regards,

Peter


Sorry, gremlins seem to have crept in! There's a rogue space between the
minus sign and the number. Furthermore, I misunderstood why you were using
#'length-fraction. Is this better:

\relative c''
% Treble
  { \time 3/4 \repeat volta 2 {
g,= b  4 a c   c e  |  b d  4. g b  8 a c   b d   |
% 3
c e  4 d fis   e g  | cis! d r | \break   % 5
b d 4. b'8  a g  | g-44 fis8  c d   c d   c d   }
}
% Alt
\\  { \voiceThree
   s2. s   % 3
   s s   % 5
   s4.
   \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #0 %Force quavers back into
alignment with treble voice
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(-1.5 . -2)
   \override Stem #'length-fraction = #0.2
   b=8  b b \revert NoteColumn #'force-hshift s4 c4. s }
% Bass
\\  { \voiceFour

   g,=,2. r4 g' r   % 3
   r8 g4 g g8 ais!  g  b4 s   % 5
   g8  d  g  d g d  s4 a'8  d, a' d, fis d }

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mark sugestion

2007-08-18 Thread César Penagos
Hi All:
Working in a Mozart Flute and Harp Concerto, I found a turn mark during the 
flute part.  The \turn mark seems have to be placed in the middle of to 
notes.  This is logical becouse, turn afects two notes not only one note.  
Lylipond put the \turn over the note where it is wirtten.  My sugestion if is 
posible is to make the \turn mark be positioned in the middle of the concernig 
notes. As you can find in the Breitkopf  Härtel (from complete works edition 
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Re: mark sugestion

2007-08-18 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi.

 Working in a Mozart Flute and Harp Concerto, I found a turn mark during the 
 flute part.  The \turn mark seems have to be placed in the middle of to 
 notes.  This is logical becouse, turn afects two notes not only one note.  
 Lylipond put the \turn over the note where it is wirtten.  My sugestion if is 
 posible is to make the \turn mark be positioned in the middle of the 
 concernig 
 notes. As you can find in the Breitkopf  Härtel (from complete works edition 
 1877-1883).
 

You can try something like this:

\relative c'' {
  g4  {a4 b}{s8 s\turn s4}  c |
}


Best,
Gilles


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remaining Unset question

2007-08-18 Thread emily atkins
In hopes of finding an answer to an 'unset question' 
I went to a previous discussion set...
After finding/examining the file 
given as an answer  (I found it!) 
and re-reading all the posts/follow-ups I am still 
completely unable to find a clear explanation of how to 
unset EasyHeads!  It seems such a simple thing 
to do and much has been said about how 
to find the source of the answer... 
 However, having put effort into it and 
having reached a dead end I am now searching 
for someone willing to simply share a command that has
 worked in this case.  Many of my students are too good at 
reading to have all the notes in easyNoteHead form,
 but not good enough to leave easy heads out 
completely.

We love having lilypond, and all the student's parents 
are urged to donate at least once (and then reminded 
again at Christmas) in honor of  the contribution lily has 
made to their kid's understanding of music.  

Thanks,
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Re: engraving question

2007-08-18 Thread Joe Neeman
On Saturday 18 August 2007 11:48, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
 2007/8/16, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm trying to tweak the spacing code, and I've come across a case where
  I'm not sure what to do. In the attached example, I have a note followed
  by a clef change followed by a bar line. Given that the clef fits in the
  space that would be there anyway, should it take up extra space? Any
  strong opinions (they will be regarded more highly if they come with
  references, of course)?

To follow this up, the default now is to do the tight spacing as suggested by 
Mark Knoop. To enable looser spacing, I've added a new property to 
NoteSpacing:
\override NoteSpacing #'space-to-barline = ##f
will put more space before a clef. I've made the tight spacing the default 
because it works with both polyphonic and monophonic music.

Joe


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