\\ constructs and things that cross measures
In the LilyPond docs, it says:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Basic-polyphony#Basic-polyphony
These voices are all separate from the voice that contains the notes just
outside the \\ construct. This should be noted when making changes at
the voice level. This also means that slurs and ties cannot go into or out
of a \\ construct.
And this is my problem - I've got a measure like this, where I'm trying to
draw a crescendo hairpin from the 3rd beat of this measure to the 2nd beat
of the next measure:
{ d8. cs16 } \\ { f,8 g f d' \ g b f' g c ef2 \! } \\ {
s4 s4 s4 s4 \ } |
Obviously this doesn't work - I get warning: unterminated (de)crescendo
on this measure and warning: can't find start of (de)crescendo on the \!
in the next measure.
What's the right way to deal with this kind of problem? It happens
elsewhere where I'm trying to put pedal marks or slurs across measures. Do
I need to make the {} \\ {} sections wider to cover multiple
measures, and take out my bar checks for those measures?
In this particular case, the excerpt above is from the upper staff and I'm
actually trying to line the hairpin up with something on the lower staff.
I suppose I could put the hairpin on the lower staff, but then I'd get
the problem in the next measure, because the voice moves to the upper
staff there and the notes on the lower staff don't line up with where the
hairpin is supposed to end.
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Re: LilyPond - dynamics and MIDI output
I am not top posting You have your problem (partly) resolved in the documentation D.2.4 Piano centered dynamics. I am also interested in a good MIDI output. At he beginning, I was hiding some dynamics, particularly after a (de)crescendo, but now I prefer writing the dynamics separately from the notes. So I write tthe dynamics twice: 1. for the score, as they have to appear on it 2. for the Midi Output, so I can control their effect. If your are particularly interested in a good Midi output, I'll give you an example of the way I manage it (Voice + piano staves). Cheers. Philippe Ed Ravin eravin at panix.com writes: In piano music, the dynamics written between the upper and lower staves seem to apply to both staves. But in LilyPond's MIDI output, the dynamics are understandably only placed in the staff where they were entered. When the MIDI plays, one staff gets louder and softer in the right places, while the other plays at the same volume throughout. I know that LilyPond's main purpose is music typesetting, with the MIDI output a secondary function, but is there any way to deal with this? Maybe write the dynamics in a second time on the lower staff and make them all invisible somehow? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond book error
Please send a complete example, not just the lilypond portion. The only
other thing I can think of is to remove the fragment, and add {} around
the notes.
HTH,
- Graham
mojocojo2000 wrote:
I am using lilypond version 2.10.29. I'm trying to integrate music
into a paper I have for a class. When I input the following into my
tex file:
\begin[quote,fragment,staffsize=26]{lilypond}
c' d' e' f' g'2 g'2
\end{lilypond}
(I got this from the tutorial)
I invoke lilypond book with the following command and receive an error:
C:\Python25\python.exe
C:\Program Files\Lilypond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py
--pdf --output=C:\lilypondtest C:\test.tex
snippet-map.ly:3:1: error: GUILE signaled an error for the
expression beginning
here
#
(ly:add-file-name-alist '(
snippet-map.ly:4:30: illegal character in escape sequence: #\D
snippet-map.ly:3:4: error: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting '='
#(ly
:add-file-name-alist '(
Processing `lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly'
Parsing...
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:97:5: error: unknown escaped string: `\notes'
\notes \relative c' {
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:97:5: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
\notes \relative c' {
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:98:8: error: unknown escaped string: `\property'
\property Voice.autoBeaming = ##f
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:98:8: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
\property Voice.autoBeaming = ##f
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:97:12: error: errors found, ignoring music
expression
\notes
\relative c' {
lily-a9db7ba2f3.ly:103:8: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'
}
error: failed files: lily-a9db7ba2f3 snippet-map.ly
command failed: lilypond -b eps -I C:\\test
--formats=eps -deps-box-padding=3.0
0 -dread-file-list snippet-names
Child returned 1
Thanks for your help.
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Re: \\ constructs and things that cross measures
Hi Ed:
These voices are all separate from the voice that contains the
notes just
outside the \\ construct. This should be noted when making
changes at
the voice level. This also means that slurs and ties cannot go
into or out
of a \\ construct.
That's because of the \\ only -- that creates two new Voice contexts,
each different from the main one that existed before the .
What you *can* do is
a b c\ d { a b\! c d } \new Voice { g g g g }
and things will behave as desired -- the first {} is a continuation
of the main Voice context, and only the \new {} is different/new. See
Instantiating new voices in the docs for more info.
Do I need to make the {} \\ {} sections wider to cover
multiple
measures, and take out my bar checks for those measures?
That would also work, but you don't have to remove the bar checks.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly?
Hi Kieren, On 8/24/07, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has solved the problem of turning the hara- kiri-ability of a Staff on the fly? I haven't had much success, unfortunately. The closest I've got is in creating a new staff context with the properties of \RemoveEmptyStaffContext, but it only allows you to choose whether a particular stave can be hidden or not. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?
Hi Neil: The closest I've got is in creating a new staff context with the properties of \RemoveEmptyStaffContext, but it only allows you to choose whether a particular stave can be hidden or not. If you read the Hara_kiri_engraver docs, it says __ Like Axis_group_engraver, but make a hara-kiri spanner, and add interesting items (ie. note heads, lyric syllables and normal rests) Properties (read) keepAliveInterfaces (list) A list of symbols, signifying grob interfaces that are worth keeping a staff with remove-empty set around for. __ If that property were settable (on the fly), we could add MultiMeasureRest to (or remove it from) the keepAliveInterfaces as desired -- that would solve the problem! Developers: any chance you can do this (or something similar, with an equivalent result)? I've still got a few Euros burning a hole in my PayPal account... =) Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?
Hi Neil, I've tried messing around with keepAliveInterfaces, and this is quite pleasing: Nicely done -- I hereby retract my offer of sponsorship... =) Best regards, Kieren. p.s. This is *definitely* an LSR-worthy tip/trick! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \rest in \drummode
Hi,
Maybe this will help :
\once \override Rest #'extra-offset = #'( 0.0 . 5.0) r4
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:39:18 +0200
From: Ole Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: \rest in \drummode?
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Dear all,
is there a way to place a rest (higher) in \drummode? (like with
\rest command in normal staffs)
\version 2.10.15
up = \drummode
{ s1 }
down = \drummode
{ sn4 sn2.\rest }
\new DrumStaff
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \up }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \down }
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
best
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Re: change Staff hara-kiri-ability on the fly? SPONSORSHIP?
Hi Kieren,
On 8/25/07, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read the Hara_kiri_engraver docs, it says
__
Like Axis_group_engraver, but make a hara-kiri spanner, and add
interesting items (ie. note heads, lyric syllables and normal rests)
Properties (read)
keepAliveInterfaces (list)
A list of symbols, signifying grob interfaces that are worth
keeping a staff with remove-empty set around for.
__
If that property were settable (on the fly), we could add
MultiMeasureRest to (or remove it from) the keepAliveInterfaces as
desired -- that would solve the problem!
I've tried messing around with keepAliveInterfaces, and this is quite
pleasing:
\version 2.11.30
show = { \set Staff.keepAliveInterfaces = #'(
rhythmic-grob-interface
multi-measure-rest-interface
lyric-interface
stanza-number-interface
percent-repeat-interface)
}
hide = \unset Staff.keepAliveInterfaces
one = { \repeat unfold 4 { a1 b c' d' \break }
R1 \show R1 R1 \hide R1 \break
R1*4
}
two = { \override MultiMeasureRest #'color = #red
R1*4
R1 \show R1 R1 \hide R1
R1*4
R
R1 \show R1 R1 R1
R1*4
}
three = { \override MultiMeasureRest #'color = #blue
R1*4
R
R1 \show R1 R1 \hide R1
R1*4
R1 \show R1 R1 \hide R1
R1*4
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\context Staff = one \one
\context Staff = two \two
\context Staff = three \three
\layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
}
}
The positioning of the overrides is critical (inside each system), otherwise
they tend to interfere with the other staves.
Regards,
Neil
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Re: \\ constructs and things that cross measures
Hi Trevor (et al.):
Yup, this is indeed very useful. Here's me discovering this construct
just a couple of days ago for double-voiced noteheads and stems that
cross over in piano music:
The other really helpful (at least for me) situation this handles is
lyrics: the lyrics automatically follow the principal Voice if you
don't use \\.
If you use the \\ construct, you then need to explicitly name the
context to maintain the Lyric attachment:
\context Voice = mainVoice { a b c d } \\ { f f f g }
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Request for comments: LilyPond 2.12
Hello everyone, Since most of the horizontal and vertical spacing hacks of Joe have stabilized, I think it is time now to start considering a new stable release. With the current release process, it should be possible to build a new stable release in a matter of days, so the real question, are we in a state for release 2.12? Historically, the criterion for a new stable release is 1. No regressions Currently, the bug tracker does not show any regressions. 2. Significant features. We have plenty: - Completely rewritten page breaking/vertical spacing combo, with skylining spacing and better vertical collision detection - Table of contents, multi paragraph text, page references - Generic microtone support - Doc updates (graham?) - Manual translations: french, spanish, german - More flexible line spanners. - Several performance and resource speedups. 3. no glaring bugs in the new features. I seem to recall that we have a nasty bug in reverting nested properties, but except for that I can't recall anything notable. Comments, ideas? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?
Joe Neeman escreveu:
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 20:34, Valentin Villenave wrote:
That being said, do you think it would be a good idea to make
TimeSignature accept the break-alignable-interface?
No, because TimeSignature already accepts an interface
(break-aligned-interface) that determines its horizontal position; it
wouldn't make sense for it to accept another one. The cleanest way of getting
this functionality into the lilypond core, in my opinion, would be to create
a whole new grob class.
I think you are all thinking in too complicated directions.
layout{
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset
= #ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #0
}
\context {
\Score \accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = { \time 2/4 s2 \time 3/4 s2. \time 4/4 s1 }
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1}
}
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Re: \rest in \drummode?
Ole Schmidt escreveu: Dear all, is there a way to place a rest (higher) in \drummode? (like with \rest command in normal staffs) \override the staff-position of the Rest, or perhaps using tweak. Untested code follows: \tweak #'staff-position #5 r -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \rest in \drummode
does not work with dotted rests...
ole
Am 25.08.2007 um 21:40 schrieb pascal lawrynowicz:
Hi,
Maybe this will help :
\once \override Rest #'extra-offset = #'( 0.0 . 5.0) r4
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:39:18 +0200
From: Ole Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: \rest in \drummode?
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Dear all,
is there a way to place a rest (higher) in \drummode? (like with
\rest command in normal staffs)
\version 2.10.15
up = \drummode
{ s1 }
down = \drummode
{ sn4 sn2.\rest }
\new DrumStaff
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \up }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \down }
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
best
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