GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}
There are four manuals about LilyPond: the @emph{Learning Manual},
the @emph{Notation Reference}, the @emph{Program Usage}, and the
@emph{Program Reference}.
This is somewhat confusing, since there are two very different manuals
whose name both begins with Program.
Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference to Internals
Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ? (renaming Program Usage
is also an option)
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: Scheme question
Le 3 nov. 07 à 00:00, Steven Weber a écrit : I need a function that takes 7 parameters. My function works fine as long as there are only 3 parameters – as soon as I add the fourth, everything blows up, with the following error: programming error: no parser tag defined for this markup signature continuing, cross fingers (#procedure baseHarpPedal-markup (layout props dpedal cpedal bpedal epedal) . scheme0-scheme1-scheme2-scheme3) The number and type of arguments that a markup command can have is hardcoded in the parser (see source file lily/lexer.ll). Possible arguments are: - no argument - markup - markup markup - markup-list - scm - scm scm - scm markup - scm scm markup - scm markup markup - scm scm scm To workaround this limitation, you can group several scheme arguments into a single one: #(define-mmarkup-command (baseHarpPedal layout props pedal-settings) (list?) The command would be call for instance that way: \markup \baseHarpPedal #'(10 20 30 40) instead of: \markup \baseHarpPedal #10 #20 #30 #40 nicolas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: renaming Program {usage, reference}
Graham Percival asked on 03 November 2007 07:42
There are four manuals about LilyPond: the
@emph{Learning Manual},
the @emph{Notation Reference}, the @emph{Program
Usage}, and the
@emph{Program Reference}.
This is somewhat confusing, since there are two
very different manuals
whose name both begins with Program.
Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference
to Internals
Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ?
(renaming Program Usage
is also an option)
I prefer Internals Reference to Tweak Reference,
and, yes, the change would be an improvement.
Cheers,
- Graham
Trevor D
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RE: text first draft
Graham Percival asked on 03 November 2007 06:57 Text REWRITE - overview of text entry: rename? Also, fill in. - or possibly delete it? A real-life example would be good to encourage the reader to go further, and convince him the solution to his particular problem will be found here. It is a difficult section, and encouragement is needed. - text scripts: for the love of $DEITY, change the first example. Yes, see comment above \fatText goes into @commonprop There should be a distinction between simple commands like this and the more arcane overrides which expose scheme and LP internals. The former are fine in the main text; the latter should be in @commonprop. - text spanners: is there any easier way to do this? Ask about making a special scheme command to simply this? - text and line spanners: too much programmer doc-writing. Rewrite the whole thing. Agreed. Should be oriented to musical requirements. And move to a different section. ... actually, what's the point of this section? Shouldn't it be in Text spanners? ... actually^2, isn't the first part dealing with glissandi?! Yes; move it. Cheers, - Graham Trevor D ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}
2007/11/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference to Internals
Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ? (renaming Program Usage
is also an option)
... or merging it with Notation Reference, where it belongs :-)
Not at all! The notation Reference is here to help users produce
scores using predefined commands and interface, whereas the Internals
Reference describes the way LilyPond *internally* works, to possibly
allow them to change the interface itself.
I vote for Internals Reference (by the way, I'm not sure if we have
to say Internals or Internal Reference -- as a French guy, I'd
prefer the adjective). Besides, this is already how we used to call it
in the Documentation sources, with @internalsref{} links.
Valentin
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Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/11/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference to Internals Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ? (renaming Program Usage is also an option) ... or merging it with Notation Reference, where it belongs :-) Not at all! The notation Reference is here to help users produce scores using predefined commands and interface, whereas the Internals Reference describes the way LilyPond *internally* works, to possibly allow them to change the interface itself. Well, some of the NR -- as well as LM -- discusses the way lilypond works internally, in order to facilitate using the PR. A much better reason (and one which closes the merge discussion, IMO) is that the Program Reference is generated automagically from the source code. It lies totally outside the scope of GDP, or any doc work that I've ever done in lilypond. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: typeset lyrics
Op vrijdag 2 november 2007, schreef Ole Schmidt:
I'am a bit shy to out my ignorance...
what I'am missing (maybe I overlooked it) is an overview (maybe a
sort of tree?) of how the
all the terms:
\score
\new Staff
\new Voice
\VoiceOne
\VoiceTwo
\oneVoice
are (hieracial) related
AFAIK Score, Staff and Voice are nested indeed, but \voiceOne,Two,Three, etc.
and \oneVoice are simply commands that set some paramaters regarding stem
direction, horizontal placement etc.
and how their encapsulation ( and { }) works
expr1 expr2 expr3 stacks the expressions vertical and { expr expr }
horizontal.
There is also the { } \\ { } model for polyphony, when to use
which construction?
See:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Explicitly-instantiating-voices
Another point are the rules of the \relative mode when you have
polyphony/chord constructions (how to use , and ' properly)
See:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Relative-octaves
Met vriendelijke groet,
Wilbert Berendsen
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Re: Snap-pizzicato in Liliypond?
Op woensdag 31 oktober 2007, schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: Hi, How can I create a snap-pizzicato (aka. Bartok-pizzicato) in lilypond? The articulation should look like the one shown in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_musical_symbols#Articulation_marks See: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user%40gnu.org/msg30785.html Met vriendelijke groet, Wilbert Berendsen -- http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Snap-pizzicato in Liliypond?
[resent because i initially sent with a wrong sender address] Op woensdag 31 oktober 2007, schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: Hi, How can I create a snap-pizzicato (aka. Bartok-pizzicato) in lilypond? The articulation should look like the one shown in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_musical_symbols#Articulation_marks See: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user%40gnu.org/msg30785.html Met vriendelijke groet, Wilbert Berendsen -- http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}
Hi Graham (et al.), (renaming Program Usage is also an option) How about Application Usage? Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Measure runs off PDF file after 5 8th notes in 4/4 time
Thanks for the help on this issue without even looking at the source. I added measure checks for every measure until it cleaned up. As Trevor says there was a long measure that caused the problem and now I'm back to working on the music. I had one other email that also mentioned this as the likely source and grateful for the quick and accurate response the I got from the list. regards, JJ --- Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John The usual cause of this behaviour is because LilyPond cannot find a suitable place to break the line. Line breaks can occur only at 'complete' bars, ie where the last note(s) in the bar in all staves end(s) at the automatically inserted barline. If any note carries over no break can take place. A single wrongly inserted duration can progagate this condition though many bars. A bar check will generate a warning at each check where a carry-over of duration occurs. If carry-overs are intended, a manually inserted bar can indicate to LP that a break may occur. Other things that can prevent a line break are a sequence of manually inserted beams or tuplets which straddle barlines. Trevor D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John J Sent: 02 November 2007 00:48 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Measure runs off PDF file after 5 8th notes in 4/4 time It isn't easy to search the archive for this bizarre problem. Everything was working fine until the moment it stopped working. Before, everything lived up to the hype and I was happy, after, I just keep trying things without anything working. The first line of this piece, lilypond prints 5 measures. The second line has 14.5 measures and they are crammed with notes. The last line has 6 measures of notes followed by an empty measure in all three parts and then pianoRH has continuing staff lines. I have measure checks in the piece and all pass even at the final measure of 32 bars. I tried adding empty measures to pianoLH and clarinet but that shortened pianoRH by an empty measure. I am using 2.11.33 now after using 2.10.33 with no change. I have specified the paper size with no change in the output. If anyone has seen anything like this, I would be happy to know how to work around it. FYI, the midi plays correctly and the PS version is identically messed up. I am running Ubuntu linux and both 704 and 710 work the same. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}
On 03.11.2007 (12:43), Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/11/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference to Internals Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ? (renaming Program Usage is also an option) ... or merging it with Notation Reference, where it belongs :-) Not at all! The notation Reference is here to help users produce scores using predefined commands and interface, whereas the Internals Reference describes the way LilyPond *internally* works, to possibly allow them to change the interface itself. Sorry - my fault, I was thinking of the Program Usage, which to a large extent has to do with how to write code to produce a certain output (the LP-book part) leaving bits and pieces which not necessarily belongs together with the notation reference thematically, but which on the other hand is so few pages, dealing with the fundamentals of how to run the program, that it seems logical to have it in one place. e -- user-friendly adj. Programmer-hostile. Generally used by hackers in a critical tone, to describe systems that hold the user's hand so obsessively that they make it painful for the more experienced and knowledgeable to get any work done. See menuitis, drool-proof paper, user-obsequious. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Umm, I'm not sure what to do. Help me!
Sirs I have dowloaded your stable version and again with an archive version for XP. I do not know if something is missing either in my PC or the space between my ears. I cannot fully understand the follow up instructions and keep going round in circles. Can you clarify what I need to do or am I omitting a vital step. Thank you AlunBEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Scott;Cara FN:Cara Scott EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20071103T164449Z END:VCARD ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Umm, I'm not sure what to do. Help me!
2007/11/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have dowloaded your stable version and again with an archive version for
XP.
I do not know if something is missing either in my PC or the space between
my ears. I cannot fully understand the follow up instructions and keep going
round in circles. Can you clarify what I need to do or am I omitting a vital
step.
Hello,
your questions are legitimate; you're not the first one to ask them on
this list and, being used to it, we tend to not realize anymore how
difficult it can be for new users to install and use LilyPond.
First of all, LilyPond is different from all other softwares you may
know. In a word processor, for instance, you first launch the
application, and *then* begin working with it (creating, opening,
saving documents, etc).
With LilyPond, you have to create a document *before* actually using
the software. Here's how to do it:
- open a text editor (Windows' NotePad, for example)
- type a few notes, enclosed with braces. Example:
{ g g d e d a g g }
- save your document wherever you want, e.g. your Desktop. Let's name
it test.ly
-Beware: the NotePad always wants to add a .txt extension to the
filename (I hope your WindowsXP shows the complete filename
extensions, if it does not, you'll have to go to Folders options in
the Control Panel, and uncheck the hide extensions box). Here we
want the file to be named test.ly, *not* test.txt nor
test.ly.txt (otherwise it won't work). So you may have to rename
your file to change the extension.
- If LilyPond is correctly installed on your computer, the test.ly
file now has a nice note icon. If it does not, verify if LilyPond is
installed (generally in Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin)
- if the file does have a note icon, just double-click on it. After a
few seconds, you'll see that a bunch of new files have appear near it:
test.log, test.ps and test.pdf -- open test.pdf with your usual PDF
reader, and... Voila! Here's your score!
The test.ly file is what we call the *source* file. Basically,
LilyPond just reads it and produces the score, be it a few notes like
in our example or a 300-pages opera like the one i'm writing. If you
modify the source file, you'll have other notes. You can change the
rhythms as well, by adding numbers:
{ g8 g d4 e2 etc.
... you can have higher or lower notes, by adding such signs as ' and ,
{ g8 g' d,4 e2 etc.
... you can have basically anything you want.
Two important things.
- Read the Documentation : you'll see that LilyPond is powerful and
quite easy to learn, even if it is a bit unusual at the beginning. A
good place to start is
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Tutorial.html
- The NotePad is not very handy when it comes to writing source files.
I strongly suggest you to install the jEdit editor, and then use its
Plugin Manager to install the LilyPondTool plugin. It colors the
LilyPond code, detects your errors as you type, includes the whole
Documentation, and lots of cool stuff.
The jEdit software is freely available at
http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download
(it needs Java to be installed on your computer.)
I hope this will makes things easier for you. You're, of course,
welcome to ask every additional questions you could need on this list;
just remember that it always takes some time to learn how it works and
how to use it. Everybody is ready to help you, as long as you're
patient enough to understand things, and to never give up.
Best Regards,
Valentin
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Newbie question about variable durations
I thought I had this figured out, but now I'm stuck. My program generates midi
notes and converts them to lily variables (ie noteone = {ees'} ). What I need to
do next is add my durations onto them. It seems so simple but I get error after
error.
What do I need to do to combine the strings together so it can be read as
ees'4 from \noteone and 4?
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Numbered musical notation (Jianpu)
Would it be feasible to make Lilypond produce the numbered musical notation described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbered_musical_notation ? It's very widely used in China, and many Chinese singers and traditional instrumentalists can't read anything else, so it would be useful to be able to produce it. As can be seen from that page, many aspects of numbered notation are borrowed from standard musical notation (slurs, hairpins, beaming divisions, expression marks, etc), and some publishers mix the two in the same score, so it would seem sensible to generate it within Lilypond rather than separately - compare with Lilypond's current support of guitar tablature. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Newbie question about variable durations
Ben skrev:
I thought I had this figured out, but now I'm stuck. My program generates midi
notes and converts them to lily variables (ie noteone = {ees'} ). What I need to
do next is add my durations onto them. It seems so simple but I get error after
error.
I don't understand what you are using it for.
Why will you put a single notename into a variable?
Could you elaborate a bit more on your project?
-Rune
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