guitar tablature and fingering
Although I have used lilypond for awhile for scores, I am just learning
to use the tabulature. The sample score I am inserting is working
for the most part but I would like to suppress the fingering on the
note staff if possible. Also my eyes need some assist hence
the large staff size
thanks
%
%
%
\header {
filename ="scarborough05-tab.ly"
title = "Scarborough Fair"
composer =""
style = "english ballad"
lastupdated = "2008/Nov/16"
}
\version "2.10.33"
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
#(set-global-staff-size 26)
guitar = {
% 1
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8 b'8 a'8 |
< g\6 b'\2 >8 g'8 < c'' e' >8 g'8 < d' b' >8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
\break
% 5
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8 b'8 b8 |
c'8 e''8 e'8 c''8 g'8 c''8 |
a8 e''8 e'8 c''8 a'8 c''8 |
< c' e'' >8 g'8 < d' fis'' >8 a'8 d''8 a'8 |
\break
% 9
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8b'8 a'8 |
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8b'8 a'8 |
\break
% 13
a8 c''8 a'8 e''8 a8 b8 |
c'8 c''8 g'8 e''8 c''8 g'8 |
< c' e'' >8 g'8 < b d'' >8 g'8 < a c'' >8 g'8 |
< g\6 b' >8 g''8 d'8 g'8 < e' c'' >8 < d' b' >8|
\break
% 17
< e' c'' >4 < d' b' >4 g8\6 g'8 |
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
g8\6 g'8 < d' b' >8 g'8 < e' c'' >8 g'8 |
< g\6 g'' >8 g'8 < e' c'' >8 g'8 < d' b' >4|
\break
% 21
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8 b'8 a'8 |
a8 e''8 g'8 fis'8 d''8 g'8 |
a8 e''8 a'8 e'8 b'8 a'8 |
\break
} % end note block
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "guitar" {
\key a \minor
\time 3/4
\clef treble
\transposition c \guitar
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)"
}
\new TabStaff = "guitartab" {
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
\transpose c c, \guitar
}
>>
\layout { }
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 70 4)
}
}
} % end score block
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
So even though I am using 2.10.33 (latest stable I believe) I should be
looking at the 2.11 docs?
--
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
Ah, I see the problem. You were looking at the 2.10 docs, which
are approximately a thousand hours older than the 2.11 docs. As
you might expect from 1,000 hours of work, the 2.11 docs are much
easier to read.
- Graham
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:38:07PM -0700, chip wrote:
I have read the bloody manuals, all of them. I finally found the part I
need in the part I skipped over because it didn't apply to my work - 3.4
An Orchestral Part. I found the code I needed to see by clicking on the
picture of the score fragment, then I saw that the \transpose was in front
of the \relative bit. That's all I needed to know, was where to put that
bloody \transpose. I have yet to find anything anywhere in the docs that
actually says to do that. In plain print, without having to look at the
code behind the example fragment. Guess I just don't read between the
lines enough, or don't make enough assumptions, or am just not experienced
enough like all you experts who already know it all and don't have to dig
through 3 or more manuals/references/tutorials/snippets libraries to try
to figure out something so simple.
Thanks for pointing me to the correct reference, even though you didn't
need to be so bloody rude about it.
--
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:04:47PM -0700, chip wrote:
caused by this code -
... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ...
\bar "|."
}
\score {
\new Staff \notes
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
\layout { indent = #0 }
\midi {}
Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the "syntax of a
lilypond file".
Particularly^2, the "a \score contains a single music expression"
part.
- Graham
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
Ah, I see the problem. You were looking at the 2.10 docs, which
are approximately a thousand hours older than the 2.11 docs. As
you might expect from 1,000 hours of work, the 2.11 docs are much
easier to read.
- Graham
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:38:07PM -0700, chip wrote:
>I have read the bloody manuals, all of them. I finally found the part I
>need in the part I skipped over because it didn't apply to my work - 3.4
>An Orchestral Part. I found the code I needed to see by clicking on the
>picture of the score fragment, then I saw that the \transpose was in front
>of the \relative bit. That's all I needed to know, was where to put that
>bloody \transpose. I have yet to find anything anywhere in the docs that
>actually says to do that. In plain print, without having to look at the
>code behind the example fragment. Guess I just don't read between the
>lines enough, or don't make enough assumptions, or am just not experienced
>enough like all you experts who already know it all and don't have to dig
>through 3 or more manuals/references/tutorials/snippets libraries to try
>to figure out something so simple.
>Thanks for pointing me to the correct reference, even though you didn't
>need to be so bloody rude about it.
>--
>Chip
>
>Graham Percival wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:04:47PM -0700, chip wrote:
>
>
> caused by this code -
>
>
> ... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ...
> \bar "|."
> }
> \score {
> \new Staff \notes
> \transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
> \layout { indent = #0 }
> \midi {}
>
>
> Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the "syntax of a
> lilypond file".
>
> Particularly^2, the "a \score contains a single music expression"
> part.
>
> - Graham
>
>
>
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
I have read the bloody manuals, all of them. I finally found the part I
need in the part I skipped over because it didn't apply to my work - 3.4
An Orchestral Part. I found the code I needed to see by clicking on the
picture of the score fragment, then I saw that the \transpose was in
front of the \relative bit. That's all I needed to know, was where to
put that bloody \transpose. I have yet to find anything anywhere in the
docs that actually says to do that. In plain print, without having to
look at the code behind the example fragment. Guess I just don't read
between the lines enough, or don't make enough assumptions, or am just
not experienced enough like all you experts who already know it all and
don't have to dig through 3 or more
manuals/references/tutorials/snippets libraries to try to figure out
something so simple.
Thanks for pointing me to the correct reference, even though you didn't
need to be so bloody rude about it.
--
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:04:47PM -0700, chip wrote:
caused by this code -
... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ...
\bar "|."
}
\score {
\new Staff \notes
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
\layout { indent = #0 }
\midi {}
Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the "syntax of a
lilypond file".
Particularly^2, the "a \score contains a single music expression"
part.
- Graham
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:04:47PM -0700, chip wrote:
> caused by this code -
>
> ... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ...
> \bar "|."
> }
> \score {
>\new Staff \notes
> \transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
>\layout { indent = #0 }
>\midi {}
Read the bloody tutorial and LM 3. Particularly the "syntax of a
lilypond file".
Particularly^2, the "a \score contains a single music expression"
part.
- Graham
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
chip wrote:
Thanks for your patience and help Jonathan, I'm trying your example
but keep getting errors thrown up at me during compile. I've included
my piece for you to look at. I've placed the \transpose line in
several different sections and can't get it to work.
Regards,
Chip
I should have added the error messages -
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lilypond "Mi Lupita - bone.ly"
GNU LilyPond 2.10.33
Processing `Mi Lupita - bone.ly'
Parsing...
Mi Lupita - bone.ly:93:0: error: syntax error, unexpected \transpose
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
Mi Lupita - bone.ly:96:5: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'
}
error: failed files: "Mi Lupita - bone.ly"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
---
caused by this code -
... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ...
\bar "|."
}
\score {
\new Staff \notes
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
\layout { indent = #0 }
\midi {}
Hope that helps.
===
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.10.33"
\header{
title = "Mi Lupita"
composer = "Recorded by: Rudy Palacias"
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
instrument = "Bari Sax"
}
% macro for beamed two per two in 2/2 and 4/4 time signature
qBeam = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
}
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
}
#(set-global-staff-size 22)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\clef bass
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\qBeam
r2 r8 e e d \bar "|:"
f d~ d c b d f a
g e f g~ g4 fs
f?2 r2
c8 g d' g, e' e e d
f d~ d c b d f a
g e f g~ g4 fs
f?2 r2
e4. a8~ a4 a~
\time 5/4 a8 g~ g4~ g2.
\time 4/4 r8 g r4 r2
\set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*4
g4. as8~ as4~ as8 as8~
as4~ as8 gs r4 r4
\time 2/4 r4 r8 gs
\time 4/4
gs4 r r2
r4 e8 f g4 fs
f?1
e1
f4 r r2
R1*5
r2 r8 a~ a gs
g?4 r r2
R1*2
r16 g, a b c d e r r8 e e d \bar ":|"
% REMOVED MORE NOTATION TO SHORTEN UP THE QUOTED SECTION $
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout {
indent = #0
}
\midi {}
}
=
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Just connect one more dot and you're there...
notes = { \key c \major c d e f }
%% sax part
\relative c'' { \notes }
%% trombone part -- add the "\clef" command
%% and change it to \relative c' instead of relative c''
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
Jon
chip wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to
it. I changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change
position on the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same
positions on the staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only
the key signature should change. The Alto Sax part is in the key of
C, so the bass clef part should be in, I don't know, my theory is so
rusty I can't think that one up.
--
Chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is
to store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative
levels to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose
it to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the
archives and am now more confused than ever. It should be
relatively easy, as the bass clef bone should be able to read the
notes as written, but just change the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thank
Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
Thanks for your patience and help Jonathan, I'm trying your example but
keep getting errors thrown up at me during compile. I've included my
piece for you to look at. I've placed the \transpose line in several
different sections and can't get it to work.
Regards,
Chip
===
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.10.33"
\header{
title = "Mi Lupita"
composer = "Recorded by: Rudy Palacias"
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
instrument = "Bari Sax"
}
% macro for beamed two per two in 2/2 and 4/4 time signature
qBeam = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
}
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
}
#(set-global-staff-size 22)
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\clef bass
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\qBeam
r2 r8 e e d \bar "|:"
f d~ d c b d f a
g e f g~ g4 fs
f?2 r2
c8 g d' g, e' e e d
f d~ d c b d f a
g e f g~ g4 fs
f?2 r2
e4. a8~ a4 a~
\time 5/4 a8 g~ g4~ g2.
\time 4/4 r8 g r4 r2
\set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*4
g4. as8~ as4~ as8 as8~
as4~ as8 gs r4 r4
\time 2/4 r4 r8 gs
\time 4/4
gs4 r r2
r4 e8 f g4 fs
f?1
e1
f4 r r2
R1*5
r2 r8 a~ a gs
g?4 r r2
R1*2
r16 g, a b c d e r r8 e e d \bar ":|"
% REMOVED MORE NOTATION TO SHORTEN UP THE QUOTED SECTION $
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout {
indent = #0
}
\midi {}
}
=
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Just connect one more dot and you're there...
notes = { \key c \major c d e f }
%% sax part
\relative c'' { \notes }
%% trombone part -- add the "\clef" command
%% and change it to \relative c' instead of relative c''
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
Jon
chip wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to
it. I changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change
position on the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same
positions on the staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only
the key signature should change. The Alto Sax part is in the key of
C, so the bass clef part should be in, I don't know, my theory is so
rusty I can't think that one up.
--
Chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is
to store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative
levels to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose
it to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the
archives and am now more confused than ever. It should be
relatively easy, as the bass clef bone should be able to read the
notes as written, but just change the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thanks.
Chip
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
Just connect one more dot and you're there...
notes = { \key c \major c d e f }
%% sax part
\relative c'' { \notes }
%% trombone part -- add the "\clef" command
%% and change it to \relative c' instead of relative c''
\transpose c es, { \relative c' { \clef "bass" \notes } }
Jon
chip wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to it. I
changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change position on
the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same positions on the
staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only the key signature
should change. The Alto Sax part is in the key of C, so the bass clef
part should be in, I don't know, my theory is so rusty I can't think
that one up.
--
Chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is to
store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative
levels to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it
to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and
am now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the
bass clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just
change the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thanks.
Chip
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to it. I
changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change position on
the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same positions on the
staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only the key signature
should change. The Alto Sax part is in the key of C, so the bass clef
part should be in, I don't know, my theory is so rusty I can't think
that one up.
--
Chip
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is to
store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative
levels to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it
to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and
am now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the
bass clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just
change the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thanks.
Chip
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is to
store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative levels
to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
Forgot to say if you want to have key signatures instead of accidentals
in the transposed parts, be sure to define a key inside the music
expression: notes = { \key c \major c d e f }. The examples in the docs
use keys this way.
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it
to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and
am now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the
bass clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just
change the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thanks.
Chip
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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on
transposition, here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose
To change it to bass clef, just use a command
\clef "bass"
The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is to
store the notes in a variable and simply use different \relative levels
to put it in the right octave:
%%% start cut-and-paste section %%%
%% define the pitches
notes = { c d e f }
%% start pitches on middle C
\relative c' { \notes }
%% put same pitches in bass clef an 8ve lower
\relative c { \clef "bass" \notes }
%% transpose notes for an e-flat instrument
\transpose es c' { \relative c' { \notes }}
%% transpose from e-flat instrument to concert pitch
\transpose c es, { \relative c'' { \notes } }
%%% end cut-and-paste section %%%
Hope that helps,
Jon
chip wrote:
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it to
Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and am
now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the bass
clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just change
the key sig? Right? I think...
Please shed some light on this for me,
Thanks.
Chip
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confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and am now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the bass clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just change the key sig? Right? I think... Please shed some light on this for me, Thanks. Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
re: chords and midiInstrument
thank you Johan that works nicely. set ChordNames.midiInstrument by way of explanation - with piano for the chords it almost drowns out the melody line in midi playback ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What I have not tried is re-checking the automatic daylight-savings > adjustment box to see if it reverts to the old behavior of always rebuilding > the fontconfig cache. If you'd like me to do this for the sake of testing, > I will. If my experience is anything to go by (though I'm on XP), it should be OK to turn it back on. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GREAT THANKS!
Congratulations! Well done! Jon ?? Hu Haipeng wrote: Hello, I'm very greatful now! Thank you for the very very great invention of LilyPond! I attended a piano competition last evening, and gained the second prize. There was a talent show, in which I sung a song I composed in 2004 as a homework of song writing class. It had no accomp. at first, because writing a braille full score is of no use. When I knew the competition has a talent show, I hurried to write the orchestral score and generated the Midi accompaniment. The performance is very successful, and CCTV music channel will broadcast it some days later! Thank you for providing such a powerful music software! Sincerely Haipeng ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
GREAT THANKS!
Hello, I'm very greatful now! Thank you for the very very great invention of LilyPond! I attended a piano competition last evening, and gained the second prize. There was a talent show, in which I sung a song I composed in 2004 as a homework of song writing class. It had no accomp. at first, because writing a braille full score is of no use. When I knew the competition has a talent show, I hurried to write the orchestral score and generated the Midi accompaniment. The performance is very successful, and CCTV music channel will broadcast it some days later! Thank you for providing such a powerful music software! Sincerely Haipeng ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lilypond Tool on Mac 10.4.3
Hi, Has anyone out there downloaded the LilypondTool jEdit and have got it to work? I am just so cautious these days with java on Mac OS 10. I used to program heavily in java, but have not in 7 years. So, I am not even up to date on the different names for the run time. Like, Java runtime 5 on Mac OS X is downloaded as... because when I go to update my iMac's Java, it goes for 1.4.3 or Java 2. I am really in the dark here. Anyone up to explain this? Craig Bakalian 560 Keswick Drive Yardley, PA 19067 215-428-0856 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lighter appearance
On 11/15/08 4:32 AM, "Johan Vromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I set that exact line in LilyPond 2.11.64. I needed to do some manual
>> beaming to get the same beaming as in the top line.
>
> Interesting. When I try:
>
> \relative c' {
> \time 6/8
> r4 a8 d e f | e d4 ~ d4. |
> r4 r16 g,16 e'8 g e16 d | c8. ( a16 g8 ~ g8. ) r16 r8 |
> }
>
> the beaming comes out exactly as in the original sample.
>
Ahh, that's the difference. I set it as 3/4, instead of 6/8.
>> The note spacing in Johan's sample is dramatically different (worse)
>> than in my LilyPond output.
>
> This is a cut-out from a larger score, it was not typeset separately.
> The notes have lyrics that account for the large gap between the
> sixteenth and eighth notes. The Sibelius score (second line), also a
> cut-out, did not have the lyrics.
>
Oh -- the lyrics gave the bad spacing. Thanks for the explanation.
Carl
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Does Valentin have another one? :-) Updated in http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=FAQ but still waiting to confirm this. This page should not convert itself into the poor's bugtracker, so if this gets more clear please let me know. Sorry, Francisco! Very careless of me :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This did it, Neil! I unchecked the daylight savings box and reinstalled > Lilypond after wiping out the old cache (not sure if these steps were > necessary but I wanted to start out fresh), and after the first run, the > cache was NOT rebuilt again. The difference in speed between Vista and > Ubuntu compiling a lilypond file is now negligible, measured in fractions of > a second instead of minutes. Perhaps this tip should be posted somewhere > official, as a warning on the download page for installing on Vista or maybe > on Valentin's FAQ page? Does Valentin have another one? :-) Updated in http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=FAQ but still waiting to confirm this. This page should not convert itself into the poor's bugtracker, so if this gets more clear please let me know. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
[SOLVED] Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
(SOLVED for me, at least. See below...) Neil Puttock wrote: Hi Jon, What happens if you untick `Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'? I haven't had any problems even though my cache was created in April, but forcing a rebuild results in the same delay you're experiencing every time unless the automatic clock adjustment is turned off for the first run. Regards, Neil This did it, Neil! I unchecked the daylight savings box and reinstalled Lilypond after wiping out the old cache (not sure if these steps were necessary but I wanted to start out fresh), and after the first run, the cache was NOT rebuilt again. The difference in speed between Vista and Ubuntu compiling a lilypond file is now negligible, measured in fractions of a second instead of minutes. Perhaps this tip should be posted somewhere official, as a warning on the download page for installing on Vista or maybe on Valentin's FAQ page? It's beyond my abilities to figure out how to keep this from happening, but for now at least it's an easy workaround. What I have not tried is re-checking the automatic daylight-savings adjustment box to see if it reverts to the old behavior of always rebuilding the fontconfig cache. If you'd like me to do this for the sake of testing, I will. Glad to put this one to rest :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: chords and set Staff.midiInstrument
"coralline algae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have tried set Staff.midiInstrument Chords are usually set in a ChordNames staff. If so, did you try set ChordNames.midiInstrument ? -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combine rests from two voices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 15. November 2008 schrieb Erik Ronström: > Hi! > > I am writing a single staff with two voices, using \voiceOne and \voiceTwo. > Is it possible to have rests common to both voices to be combined into > "single voice rests"? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJHwA7TqjEwhXvPN0RAliBAJ4jR7Zs0tASSIJ0NqdlC/jVi3NxjQCdHG94 DiiCXLAOS5otD1aLipTKY2E= =b0Er -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
chords and set Staff.midiInstrument
greetings, I searched the archives and someone posted the same question without reply. fake book type lead sheet with chords. the melody can be modified to use any instrument but the chords seem to only use a piano sound. I would like to change the midi instrument if possible I have tried set Staff.midiInstrument thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combine rests from two voices
You could use:
b2 /rest b4 /rest
in both voices. It would work but you'd get a collision error warning in
the console output.
Another approach would be to use:
b2 /rest b4 /rest
in one voice and then use:
s2 s4
in the other.
regards,
Dave
Erik Ronström wrote:
Hi!
I am writing a single staff with two voices, using \voiceOne and \voiceTwo. Is it
possible to have rests common to both voices to be combined into "single voice
rests"?
Of course I could do like
<<
\newVoice = "one" { \voiceOne a4 b c d }
\newVoice = "two" { \voiceTwo a4 b c d }
r2 r4
<<
\newVoice = "one" { \voiceOne a4 b c d }
\newVoice = "two" { \voiceTwo a4 b c d }
but it is not a very practical solution.
Regards
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Re: Combine rests from two voices
2008/11/15 Erik Ronström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> I am writing a single staff with two voices, using \voiceOne and \voiceTwo.
> Is it possible to have rests common to both voices to be combined into
> "single voice rests"?
One thing you can do is to use spacing rests in one voice and
\oneVoice in the other whilst they both have rests.
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "one" { \voiceOne a4 b c' d' \oneVoice r2 r4 \voiceOne a4 b c' d'}
\new Voice = "two" { \voiceTwo a4 b c' d' s2 s4 a4 b c' d' }
>>
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Combine rests from two voices
Hi!
I am writing a single staff with two voices, using \voiceOne and \voiceTwo. Is
it possible to have rests common to both voices to be combined into "single
voice rests"?
Of course I could do like
<<
\newVoice = "one" { \voiceOne a4 b c d }
\newVoice = "two" { \voiceTwo a4 b c d }
>>
r2 r4
<<
\newVoice = "one" { \voiceOne a4 b c d }
\newVoice = "two" { \voiceTwo a4 b c d }
>>
but it is not a very practical solution.
Regards
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Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Hi Jon, 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Trevor Daniels wrote: >> >> >> Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, >> and if that date is within your daylight saving period try >> deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the >> .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt >> from scratch. Maybe a long shot but worth a try. See my other >> recent note for details of why. >> >> Trevor >> > I did this to no effect. It still rebuilds the cache each time I run > Lilypond. :( What happens if you untick `Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'? I haven't had any problems even though my cache was created in April, but forcing a rebuild results in the same delay you're experiencing every time unless the automatic clock adjustment is turned off for the first run. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lighter appearance
2008/11/15 Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think I found an explanation. My score sample was typeset with > > #(set-global-staff-size 14) > > I'd expected the line thickness to scale accordingly, but apparently > this is not the case (4.2.1, Setting the staff size): > > Each font is tuned for a different staff size: at a smaller size the > font becomes heavier, to match the relatively heavier staff lines. > > "relatively heavier staff lines" seems to imply that the lines do not > get thinner when a smaller staff size is selected. Not necessarily. Staff lines are thinner but not in the same proportion. They would be illegible for small staff sizes if their thickness were proportional. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Trevor Daniels wrote: This suggests that the cache is believed to be invalid because the cache timestamp doesn't match the directory create-time. Thought to be due to incorrect correction for daylight-saving time. My cache was created on 21 March 2008, just over a week before the UK moved into daylight saving time, and works fine. Perhaps those of you with delays could check if the creation date is within or without periods of daylight saving. And if it is within a daylight saving period try deleting the cache so it, is rebuild from scratch now, as presumably all daylight saving periods have finished. The referenced bug also says Changing "FcStat to normal stat" fixed the problem, but I don't know what this means. Trevor Trevor, what are the permissions on your fontconfig cache files? Mine are rwxrwxrwx root root. Does this look right? I can't find anything that shows me how to change FcStat to regular stat, either. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Trevor Daniels wrote: Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, and if that date is within your daylight saving period try deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt from scratch. Maybe a long shot but worth a try. See my other recent note for details of why. Trevor I did this to no effect. It still rebuilds the cache each time I run Lilypond. :( Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lighter appearance
"Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I set that exact line in LilyPond 2.11.64. I needed to do some manual
> beaming to get the same beaming as in the top line.
Interesting. When I try:
\relative c' {
\time 6/8
r4 a8 d e f | e d4 ~ d4. |
r4 r16 g,16 e'8 g e16 d | c8. ( a16 g8 ~ g8. ) r16 r8 |
}
the beaming comes out exactly as in the original sample.
> The note spacing in Johan's sample is dramatically different (worse)
> than in my LilyPond output.
This is a cut-out from a larger score, it was not typeset separately.
The notes have lyrics that account for the large gap between the
sixteenth and eighth notes. The Sibelius score (second line), also a
cut-out, did not have the lyrics.
> The staff lines in my LilyPond output are lighter [...] The slurs in
> my output are lighter [...] The noteheads in my output are heavier
This is *very* interesting... I see no difference in the noteheads,
but your lines are definitely thinner than mine.
I think I found an explanation. My score sample was typeset with
#(set-global-staff-size 14)
I'd expected the line thickness to scale accordingly, but apparently
this is not the case (4.2.1, Setting the staff size):
Each font is tuned for a different staff size: at a smaller size the
font becomes heavier, to match the relatively heavier staff lines.
"relatively heavier staff lines" seems to imply that the lines do not
get thinner when a smaller staff size is selected.
-- Johan
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Re: Lighter appearance
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is not the default output of LilyPond. > > I agree -- are you sure the top line isn't from Finale or > something? It looks incredibly bad. WTF is up with the gap > between the sixteenth and eighth in the second bar from the end?! > LilyPond would *not* produce that. This is a cut-out from a larger score, it was not typeset separately. The notes have lyrics that account for the large gap between the sixteenth and eighth notes. The Sibelius score (second line), also a cut-out, did not have the lyrics. What I wanted to show is the slighly thinner lines for the staff lines and stems, and the slightly larger note heads that IMHO improve readability. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
My Vista machine was built and Lilypond installed while daylight saving was active (still is active here in the Australian summer). Apart from an update to the font cache that seems to have happened a few days ago as a result of including an em dash in a score, my font cache doesn't update every time I run Lilypond. stat is a C library function to obtain information about a file. I would assume fcstat is much the same. Nick > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Trevor Daniels > Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 8:39 PM > To: Patrick McCarty > Cc: lilypond-user > Subject: Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista > > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18195 > > This suggests that the cache is believed to be invalid because the > cache > timestamp doesn't match the directory create-time. Thought to be due > to > incorrect correction for daylight-saving time. My cache was created on > 21 March 2008, just over a week before the UK moved into daylight > saving time, and works fine. Perhaps those of you with delays could > check if the creation date is within or without periods of daylight > saving. > And if it is within a daylight saving period try deleting the cache so > it, > is rebuild from scratch now, as presumably all daylight saving periods > have finished. > > The referenced bug also says Changing "FcStat to normal stat" fixed > the problem, but I don't know what this means. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Jonathan Kulp wrote Friday, November 14, 2008 7:49 PM Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have only upgraded a couple of times, and it was in response to this thread, just to test it out. It's possible that I upgraded one more time before that. I always use the Add/Remove program tool built into Windows, accessed by the Control Panel. On Linux I always run the uninstall script that comes with Lilypond, but I don't know how to do this on Windows. Like I said, I don't use Windows regularly (...poking in the Windows partition now...) Aha! I just noticed the uninstall.exe file in the Lilypond directory! Should I try running that and then doing a fresh reinstall of Lilypond? Does the Windows Add/Remove GUI use this uninstall.exe file or does it use something else? I can try this after lunch if you think it's a good idea. The standar way of uninstalling lilypond on windows is to launch the Uninstall program found into the lilypond entry of the Start button-> programs menu. I think the Windows builtin Control Panel -> uninstall feature should use this program. Alright, I uninstalled by going through the program menu and choosing the uninstall script. The process looked exactly the same as when I did it from the Control Panel. (Either way it's incredibly slow. Why is it so much slower on Windows than on Linux?) I don't know what Linux uninstall does, but on Windows it systematically deletes every file in the install directories one by one and then deletes every directory that is empty. I always assumed that this is so any files added by the user are left untouched. Then when an upgraded version is installed it uses the same directory structure and so inherits those locally added files. Since I have no locally added files I don't use the uninstall procedure - I simply delete the entire LilyPond directories. This is certainly quicker! After uninstalling I found, though, that the Lilypond directory was still there in the Program Files directory, and from that I could tell the date on which I first installed LP on this laptop, 12 June 2008. I deleted the LP directory from Program Files, hoping that a *really* fresh install would fix the problem of the fontconfig cache rebuilding all the time. It didn't help. I reinstalled Lilypond (2.11.63-1) and ran my test file again, twice, and the cache was rebuilt on the second run just like the first. Anything else I should try or information I could provide to help track down the problem? Yes. Could you check the creation date of the large cache file, and if that date is within your daylight saving period try deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt from scratch. Maybe a long shot but worth a try. See my other recent note for details of why. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Patrick McCarty wrote Friday, November 14, 2008 10:11 PM On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:34 PM Is the large cache file being rebuilt mistakenly (on some Windows systems)? Yes; that is the problem exactly. Every other case of slowness on Windows, both XP and Vista, which has been examined closely has resulted in the same conclusion. The question is, what causes it to happen? Not sure, but this fontconfig bug report looks really interesting, and could be related: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18195 This suggests that the cache is believed to be invalid because the cache timestamp doesn't match the directory create-time. Thought to be due to incorrect correction for daylight-saving time. My cache was created on 21 March 2008, just over a week before the UK moved into daylight saving time, and works fine. Perhaps those of you with delays could check if the creation date is within or without periods of daylight saving. And if it is within a daylight saving period try deleting the cache so it, is rebuild from scratch now, as presumably all daylight saving periods have finished. The referenced bug also says Changing "FcStat to normal stat" fixed the problem, but I don't know what this means. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lighter appearance
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 09:32:59AM +0100, Eyolf Østrem wrote: > > That said, I sometimes think the lilypond defaults are a bit to the heavy > side. Especially the final barlines come to mind. As a future feature, it > wouldn't be a bad idea with an alternative set of lighter settings which > could be > turned on with a \layout or \paper option. > I like this idea. I have two or three printers, and each one prints differently. One in particular seems to make all thin lines very thin, and if I know I am going to use it I have to manually adjust stems and bar lines to match. A set of default settings would make this much easier! -- Cameron Horsburgh Blog: http://spiritcry.wordpress.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lighter appearance
On 14.11.2008 (16:20), Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > On 11/14/08 2:27 PM, "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree -- are you sure the top line isn't from Finale or > > something? It looks incredibly bad. WTF is up with the gap > > between the sixteenth and eighth in the second bar from the end?! > > LilyPond would *not* produce that. > > The note spacing in Johan's sample is dramatically different (worse) than in > my LilyPond output. I assume that the bad spacing in the top example was due to some wide-syllable lyrics which were not included in the image? Other than that, I think the head to head comparison proves with all the clarity one could desire how superior Lilypond's output is to its rivals'. That music typesetting is not just about joining dots. Tastes may differ, but the Sibelius sample looks like something from a first-grade piano manual with its oversized noteheads -- almost like setting a whole text in helvetica capitals. Finale has -- apart from its abhorrable spacing -- these ultra-thin hairlines which makes it look like something that is set by a computer... That said, I sometimes think the lilypond defaults are a bit to the heavy side. Especially the final barlines come to mind. As a future feature, it wouldn't be a bad idea with an alternative set of lighter settings which could be turned on with a \layout or \paper option. Eyolf -- I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. -- Charles Schulz ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: point and click PDF
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 03:08:47PM -0800, Eluze wrote: > > > strk-2 wrote: > > > > I've been told about the point & click > > feature so I had a try. > > Evince wasn't so helpful in telling me what > > was going wrong so I tried xpdf, as suggested > > by the manual. > > > > > you can use it from other pdf readers (like acrobat), too. > the german lilypond forum Deutsches Lilypond Forum has discussed a solution, > see yourself: http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=88.msg415#msg415 > http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=88.msg415#msg415 Can't read german. Anyway, I "fixed" by writing my own lilypond-invoke-editor... - 8< -- #!/bin/sh echo $@ if [ -z "$1" ]; then echo "Usage: $0 :::" >&2 exit 1 fi file=`echo $1 | cut -d: -f1` line=`echo $1 | cut -d: -f2` char=`echo $1 | cut -d: -f3` col=`echo $1 | cut -d: -f4` vi +$line $file - 8< -- --strk; ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
