Re: same heigth of markups
Hi, Stefan.
Use extra-offset like following:
\once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 2.1)
c1_\Dsechsvier
2008/11/25 Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear Lilypond-users,
I would like to have, in the below quoted example, the Dsechsvier on the
same heigth as the T.
How can I get this?
Thanks for Your help,
Stefan
\version 2.11.60
Dsechsvier = \markup { D \super { \combine \raise #1.1 6 4 } }
T = \markup {T}
\new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1_\T c1_\Dsechsvier }
\layout{
\context { \Staff \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #3 } }
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Re: musicxml2ly
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Hi, Reading about improved MusicXML support for Lilypond 2.11.64 I decided to play around with the musicxml2ly tool a bit. I downloaded the collection of 18 MusicXML examples from http://www.recordare.com/xml/samples.html and processed them with musicxml2ly. Then I processed the resulting *.ly files with Lilypond (version 2.11.64). I will not describe in detail here what the results were. Some examples showed good results, some showed really obvious typestting errors, some examples exited with error messages when processed by Lilypond. Everyone I did a similar test with some of my own scores exported from Finale to musicXML a while back with pretty good results. The most common problem was duplication of dynamic markings--very easy to clean up. I was impressed with the conversion overall. quite another thread topic: Are there any women using Lilypond ? I haven't seen them yet. ) I can remember seeing messages from one, at least (!). I don't remember her name but she has a website with lilypond source files available for download. As a a comparison I also tried the examples with the new Finale Notepad 2009. I hate to admit it but: At this moment Finale Notepad does a better MusicXML rendering job than Lily. Not surprising, since they almost certainly created the xml files with Finale. Finale Notepad is a severly crippled version of Finale, though, while Lilypond's free version is, well, the only version, with all of the features of the full version. ;-) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Jonathan Kulp wrote: As a a comparison I also tried the examples with the new Finale Notepad 2009. I hate to admit it but: At this moment Finale Notepad does a better MusicXML rendering job than Lily. Not surprising, since they almost certainly created the xml files with Finale. Finale Notepad is a severly crippled version of Finale, though, while Lilypond's free version is, well, the only version, with all of the features of the full version. ;-) Jon I should have read the fine print carefully the first time. My suspicion was correct--from the Recordare website: All of these files were created in Finale first, then exported into MusicXML 2.0 and PDF formats. Naturally the conversion back to Finale's format would be very smooth. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
2008/11/25 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can remember seeing messages from one, at least (!). I don't remember her name but she has a website with lilypond source files available for download. Perhaps you're referring to Laura Conrad :-) There was also a woman named (IIRC) Charlotte, a while back. Interestingly, we have a few more women on the French list, though the overall members number is 10 to 20 times less important than on -user. Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
What would be the setting to let notes be spaced without regard for the corresponding lyrics? E.g. to let two eighth notes be on the same distance from each other whether the first note has mum or if. I've played around with removing engravers and setting properties, but I haven't found anything that works. (And, yes: it's for the ancient chapter -- I'm not just wasting time here :) Eyolf -- Quid me anxius sum? [ What? Me, worry? ] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: I will not describe in detail here what the results were. Some examples showed good results, some showed really obvious typestting errors, some examples exited with error messages when processed by Lilypond. Everyone who is interested can try it for himself I don't expect all the examples from recordare to be rendered perfectly with the very next devel. version of Lilypond. But I do think the example collection from the Recordare website provides an interesting set of benchmarks for the development team to test both musicxml2ly and lilypond. Well, yes and no. - -) First, these example files are examples to hightlight what MusicXML can do, so they use quite some involved features. From musicxml.org: They are deliberately chosen to be more difficult, and make use of more MusicXML features [...] - -) Second, I was/am using those examples, but currently I'm trying to fix some more basic issues with real-life scores. - -) Third, Recordare claims copyright on the typesetting of those MusicXML files, so we can't simply copy them into our build tree for testing purposes (Michael Good, the author of the MusicXML spec wrote me last year that if I ask them and tell them on which website the files would be placed, they would grant us permission, but due to the open source nature of LilyPond, I doubt that we can really fulfill this. I simply don't want to copy anything into the source tree which cannot be freely copied and published/uploaded somewhere else). - -) Fourth, the MusicXML format in many ways was created according to how Finale handles things (Michael Good and Recordare, who wrote the MusicXML DTDs and invented the format, are also the guys who implemented the Finale Dolet plugin for MusicXML, which was actually at first their only MusicXML implementation, so of course Finale heavily influenced the way MusicXML does things), while LilyPond does many things differently. For example, in MusicXML, all text markups and all dynamic marks are attached to the staff, while in LilyPond they are attached to a note. As you can imagine, it's not easy to find a proper note to attach them to when importing a MusicXML file to the LilyPond format. Even worse, one has to decide to either assign those markups and dynamics to only one voice present in the staff (with the consequence that you will not be able to split multiple voices into multiple staves later on without losing the dynamics for the second voice) or to assign them to both voices and live with the duplication that you currently see. To find bugs and/or chances for improving and finetuning Lilypond and musicxml2ly. See my informal list of things I noticed: http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly Also, I am working on a really full test suite for MusicXML (there are absolutely no test cases and no representative test suite available from Recordare). It can be found in our source code in the input/regression/musicxml/ directory and its output is also available in our documentation: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/input/regression/musicxml/collated-files.html I regularly add new test cases as I implement stuff in musicxml2ly or fix bugs. As a a comparison I also tried the examples with the new Finale Notepad 2009. I hate to admit it but: At this moment Finale Notepad does a better MusicXML rendering job than Lily. Well, you better rephrase it: Currently, Finale does a better job at importing an MusicXML file that it created itself than Lilypond. This is actually to be expected. Of course, Finale should be better at importing its own files than lilypond! However, Finale also has its issues and not-supported MusicXML features (e.g. figured bass, real mid-measure bar lines, etc. Those are supported in musicxml2ly, though ;-) ), but since those example files were created with Finale, of course they only show those features that Finale supports perfectly ;-) Also notice that those examples are also not perfect: Some features displayed in the .pdf files are actually not exported to the MusicXML file by finale, so the PDFs are misleading. And there are some other issues too: For example, to print a tick as a bar line, they printed an | text markup and manually positioned it over the staff. This is definitely not the correct MusicXML way to print such a bar line... Also, if you try to import the 02a-Notations-MusicXML.xml file from my test suite to Finale, you'll see that finale completely messes up determining approproate positions for the articulations. Finale handles its own MusicXML files almost perfectly, but for others it also has its issues. Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial
Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
A good question. I am not familiar with Gregorian settings but in old mensural sheet music prints the lyrics are quite approximately placed, often with some abbr. signs to shorten the -um or -us of word endings. And they are mostly not devided into syllables, only at places where there is an especial wide melisma. The first thought I had was: just keep it independently of the notes. There is the defnull solution in the vocal section of NR2, which has a comment though, stating: conclusion: do not use defnull context :-) Because it is so an important issue to me, this approach would it still make possible to use the same identifiers for old and new edition: in one \score-setup you make have them independent contexts, in the other you connect them as usual. But this is just a workaround, not a solution. It has been stated many times that the spacing is not really working for ancient: it is too much built on the assumption that a note takes space according to its duration and not only according to its real extent. Maybe Joe has an answer... Greetings till eyolf wrote: What would be the setting to let notes be spaced without regard for the corresponding lyrics? E.g. to let two eighth notes be on the same distance from each other whether the first note has mum or if. I've played around with removing engravers and setting properties, but I haven't found anything that works. (And, yes: it's for the ancient chapter -- I'm not just wasting time here :) Eyolf -- Quid me anxius sum? [ What? Me, worry? ] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LilyPond-Hilfe auch auf deutsch im http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php LilyPond-Forum . -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-make-note-spacing-disregard-lyrics-tp20680791p20681486.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
See my informal list of things I noticed: http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly This should be rather http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly/start Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page-turn-breaking horizontal spacing
I got a decent spacing using a combination of a quite large spacing increment for SpacingSpanner and increased staff padding. Looks great now. Thanks for the help! Neil On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 00:12 +, Neil Puttock wrote: 2008/11/24 Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a little hard to tell without an example, but it sounds like lilypond is refusing to give things more space because that would make for a bad page turn. The page-turn-breaking function treats the page-turns with higher priority than anything else, even if the horizontal spacing is really bad. However, it should still use the horizontal spacing settings to choose a good configuration. Does adding \allowPageTurn in appropriate places help? Should the Page_turn_engraver be \consist-ed when using ly:page-turn-breaking? Though it's not mentioned in the docs, all the relevant regtests include it, and having tested it myself, the spacing variables seem to work fine so long as the engraver's included. The purpose of the Page_turn_engraver is to automatically insert \applyPageTurn in appropriate places. You will want either to use Page_turn_engraver or to manually specify where page turns are allowed. It's been a while since I looked at those docs, but I'm pretty sure this is mentioned somewhere. Joe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Neil Thornock, D.M. Assistant Professor of Music Composition/Theory Brigham Young University http://neilthornock.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:45:20PM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -) Third, Recordare claims copyright on the typesetting of those MusicXML files, so we can't simply copy them into our build tree for testing purposes (Michael Good, the author of the MusicXML spec wrote me last year that if I ask them and tell them on which website the files would be placed, they would grant us permission, but due to the open source nature of LilyPond, I doubt that we can really fulfill this What a jerk! No, of course we can't allow that. How does he expect his format to gain acceptance if he doesn't supply test files under a permissive license?! I mean, they're *language tests*. Pay a music student for 8 hours to typeset some public domain music, then release the whole thing as public domain. For a company as big as Finale, I can't believe that they couldn't afford to do that. Even worse, one has to decide to either assign those markups and dynamics to only one voice present in the staff (with the consequence that you will not be able to split multiple voices into multiple staves later on without losing the dynamics for the second voice) or to assign them to both voices and live with the duplication that you currently see. Could you add a voice containing nothing but spacer rests, and assign all marks to that voice? I'm not certain that would be any better in the long run, though. :( Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
templates
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Re: templates
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:40:43PM +, Mary Evans wrote: I am having trouble getting the templates to work. Can anyone give me a template for choral music that is in 3 parts (ie SAB) with one or more verses between the staves? Thanks. Try the templates in the 2.11 docs. If they don't work, tell us exactly what isn't working. Please also read the Learning Manual in the 2.11 docs. It contains lots of info about modifying templates. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: See my informal list of things I noticed: http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly This should be rather http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly/start Yes, or simply (note the added /): http://wiki.kainhofer.com/musicxml2ly/ Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung Jung-Wien, http://www.jung-wien.at/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
Eyolf
Does this do what you want? I'm not sure what it is you want to do, so this
may be wide of the mark. The quotes make a phrase into one big syllable
which can then be placed by specifying its musical length. The notes are
spaced out to fit each phrase, but that can be controlled by changing the
musical length.
Trevor
\new Staff {
\relative c'' {
a8 a a4 a2 a8 a a4 a2
a8 a a4 a2 a8 a a4 a2
}
}
\new Lyrics {
\lyricmode {
These words are independent of the notes1*2
and so are these1*2
}
}
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From: Eyolf Østrem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lily-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
What would be the setting to let notes be spaced without regard for the
corresponding lyrics? E.g. to let two eighth notes be on the same distance
from each other whether the first note has mum or if. I've played
around with removing engravers and setting properties, but I haven't
found anything that works.
(And, yes: it's for the ancient chapter -- I'm not just wasting time here
:)
Eyolf
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Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond
Hi, I have installed Lilypond on a Windows Xp based computer. Just for trying, music notation used to be my only reason for keeping Windows. But now that I've found Lilypond, I want to install it on my Ubuntu laptop. It seems to install (via apt-get), but no results so far. What do I need to know? I still consider myself an Ubuntu/Linux newbie. Please help me enjoy Lilypond and get rid of Microsoft!! Thx, Ronald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond
Internet connection? aptitude search lilypond sudo aptitude install lilypond check also some gui's to, lilypondtool, denemo, rosegarden, maybe useful Success! On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Ronald van Eunen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I have installed Lilypond on a Windows Xp based computer. Just for trying, music notation used to be my only reason for keeping Windows. But now that I've found Lilypond, I want to install it on my Ubuntu laptop. It seems to install (via apt-get), but no results so far. What do I need to know? I still consider myself an Ubuntu/Linux newbie. Please help me enjoy Lilypond and get rid of Microsoft!! Thx, Ronald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
On 25.11.2008 (16:26), Trevor Daniels wrote:
Eyolf
Does this do what you want? I'm not sure what it is you want to do, so
this may be wide of the mark. The quotes make a phrase into one big
syllable which can then be placed by specifying its musical length. The
notes are spaced out to fit each phrase, but that can be controlled by
changing the musical length.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I'm after is a way to mimic the ligatures of
plainchant in ordinary notation. I've found that the easiest way to do that
(without fiddling with scheme) is to use \time 1/4 and set all the
neumes as subdivisions of a quarter note. With \override BarLine
#'X-extent = #'(-1.5 . 1.5), each neume will then be separated into nice
groups, without having to resort to slurs etc.
BUT the problem that remains is that long syllables, like -bum cause the
notes on that syllable to be spread wider apart than e.g. with -ri-, as
in the following example:
\include gregorian.ly
spiritusC = \relative c' {
\time 1/4
\override Lyrics.LyricSpace #'minimum-distance = #0
d4 \times 2/3 { f8 a g } g a a4 g f8 e
d4 f8 g g8 d f g a g f4 g8 a a4
\times 2/3 { g8 f d } e f g a g4 }
spirLyr = \lyricmode {
Spi -- ri -- _ _ tus _ Do -- mi -- ni _
re -- ple -- _ vit _ or -- _ bem _ ter -- ra -- _ rum,
al -- _ _ le -- _ lu -- _ ia.
}
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = melody \spiritusC
\new Lyrics = one \lyricsto melody \spirLyr
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
\remove Collision_engraver
\override BarLine #'X-extent = #'(-1.5 . 1.5)
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override Beam #'transparent = ##t
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
\override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
I should also say that if there is a better way of doing this, I will stop
my search here and now.
eyolf
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Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
On 25.11.2008 (05:46), Till wrote: But this is just a workaround, not a solution. It has been stated many times that the spacing is not really working for ancient: it is too much built on the assumption that a note takes space according to its duration and not only according to its real extent. Even though this is a different problem than the one I was addressing, it's definitely one that I would like to see a solution to. Some of the gregorian examples in LSR and manual alike are ... ehem ... slightly embarrassing. e -- The worst sort of alliances are those which weaken us. Worse still is when an Emperor fails to recognize such an alliance for what it is. -- PRINCE RAPHAEL CORRINO, Discourses on Leadership ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond
Downloading the 'any x86' installer from the lilypond website and then running it using the directions on the download page works flawlessly. Alternatively, run the Add/Remove program (on the main menu) and search 'lilypond' and that should give you the option to install the 'stable' branch (2.10.33), but there are many reasons to use the latest development branch, and it's really not that hard to install. And on behalf of all the other GNU/Linux users on the list, Welcome to Linux! Dave Ronald van Eunen wrote: Hi, I have installed Lilypond on a Windows Xp based computer. Just for trying, music notation used to be my only reason for keeping Windows. But now that I've found Lilypond, I want to install it on my Ubuntu laptop. It seems to install (via apt-get), but no results so far. What do I need to know? I still consider myself an Ubuntu/Linux newbie. Please help me enjoy Lilypond and get rid of Microsoft!! Thx, Ronald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond
On 25.11.2008 (16:54), Ronald van Eunen wrote: Hi, I have installed Lilypond on a Windows Xp based computer. Just for trying, music notation used to be my only reason for keeping Windows. But now that I've found Lilypond, I want to install it on my Ubuntu laptop. It seems to install (via apt-get), but no results so far. What do I need to know? I still consider myself an Ubuntu/Linux newbie. Please help me enjoy Lilypond and get rid of Microsoft!! 1. Solution #1 (basic) a) write a .ly file and save it somewhere, e.g. /home/ronald/music/great-music.ly, which in linux can be abbreviated to ~/music/great-music.ly (I remember searching for a while for an explanation of what '~' actually meant when I was new to linux; I mean: how do you google something like that...?) b) Open a console and cd to where you saved your file (cd music) c) process your file: lilypond great-music.ly d) open your fine file with a pdf reader (e.g. xpdf great-music.pdf) 2. Solution #2 (simpler) apt-get jedit, then install the lilypondTool in the plugins section. eyolf -- KnaraKat Bite me. * TheOne gets some salt, then proceeds to nibble on KnaraKat a little bit ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Just chords and lyrics.
Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases more-or-less aligned with the correct measures. Thanks for your help, KW ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond
2008/11/25, Eyolf Østrem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. Solution #2 (simpler) apt-get jedit, then install the lilypondTool in the plugins section. eyolf it is apt-get install jedit. Anyway, this does not work on ubuntu 8.04 and it doesn't either on ubuntu 8.10 which I use. The reason is, that version of jedit does not include lilypondtool in the plugins section, and it also does not include sidekick which is needed to the manual installation of the plugin. The jedit web page does not support Linux users. What I did (and recommend, because the point-and-click feature is so time-saving) is to install the jre 6.10 from Sun, then download jedit from the webpage and install it with java -- jar from the console. Then you will have the latest lilypondtool in the plugins section. Good luck, -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just chords and lyrics.
2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases more-or-less aligned with the correct measures. You do not need a music score typesetting system to do this, just use a word processor or a spreadsheet. What exactly do you think LP could be useful for? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: must I build?
2008/11/25 John Mangual [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you walk me through building Lilypond from the Source? I'm using Kubuntu. I downloaded the source from Git You'll need all the dependencies that are listed on http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Requirements.html Beware: you need the -devel packages too (e.g. you need both python and python-devel) Then : cd lilypond/ ./configure (here you'll probably have some dependencies missing, unless you're very lucky ;-) if (when) you have fulfilled all dependencies, then type make all (here you'll have to wait for 20 to 80 minutes, depending on your computer) then type: sudo make install Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: templates
Mary Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am having trouble getting the templates to work. Can anyone give me a template for choral music that is in 3 parts (ie SAB) with one or more verses between the staves? Thanks. You may want to try the template kit I posted recently to this group. You can find it here: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lhml-template-0.00.zip It its basic form it supports staffs for: - chords (accompagniement) - solo voice - lead voice - high voice - medium voice - low voice (The names of the voices can be changed) Each voice can have up to 5 stanza associated. Just define what you need and the template will take care of it. I hope you find it helpful. Regards, Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just chords and lyrics.
Keith Weintraub [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? Try http://chordii.sourceforge.net . -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: must I build?
2008/11/25 John Mangual [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mainly I want to get in involved by fixing some of the presentation bugs that arise such as this one http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=675start=100 Nice idea; good luck with that! :-) where would i look to find the relevant source code to modify? do i have to rebuild Lilypond everytime I want to try out a fix? If you change something in /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.1*/scm, you can test it immediately (Scheme code is interpreted, not compiled). If you change something in a C++ file, you'll have to rebuild indeed: sudo make uninstall make bin-clean make all sudo make install For this particular bug, the partcombine definition is in ly/music-functions.ly, that calls a make-part-combine-music function, that is defined in scm/part-combiner.scm, that uses some functions from lily/part-combine-engraver.cc You may also found informations in the docs: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/PartCombineMusic (this is probably not the easiest bug to start with, but good luck to you :-) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just chords and lyrics.
On 25.11.2008 (20:56), Johan Vromans wrote: Try http://chordii.sourceforge.net . Hey, that looks nice! Another approach, for which I'm partly but indirectly responsible, is Seal (http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/~kuettler/seal/), which doesn't have much to do with the original request, but which may be of interest on a general level. It's a ruby program which takes the html files from a specific chord site by yours truly (http://dylanchords.info) as input and outputs a typographically and practically well-designed pdf file with LaTeX as the middle ground. It is not generally applicable, though, since it uses the site-specific css classes. Eyolf -- To make an enemy, do someone a favor. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:29:06AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:45:20PM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: - -) Third, Recordare claims copyright on the typesetting of those MusicXML files, so we can't simply copy them into our build tree for testing purposes What a jerk! No, of course we can't allow that. How does he expect his format to gain acceptance if he doesn't supply test files under a permissive license?! If we would have a good Lilypond-MusicXML conversion tool (or an additional file export option inside Lilypond) we could convert the complete Mutopia collection to MusicXML. That would sure make a nice MusicXML test suite, and under a free licence ! And then, this time musicxml2ly would beat Finale :-) -- Martin Tarenskeen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just chords and lyrics.
Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to worry about the notes and just want to put word phrases more-or-less aligned with the correct measures. You do not need a music score typesetting system to do this, just use a word processor or a spreadsheet. Yes, but if you have a piece of music that you want to extract different parts out of, and one of those is a chord-and-lyrics chart for a guitarist who can't tell tell the difference between music notation and squashed ants, it would be nice to have a simple way of getting LP to generate this. Brett ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
Eyolf
Changing tus _ into tu s etc looks better, as all the syllables are then
two characters long. Seems rather inelegant though, and I suspect this
might not work very well with some line lengths.
Another alternative is to make all the syllables the same length with
\override Lyrics.LyricText #'X-extent =#'(0 . 2.5)
(try varying the (0 . 2.5) a bit)
which works quite well for 2- and 3-letter syllables. Might not be so good
with longer ones. You could always set the length of every syllable
separately, but this seems impractical.
Can't think of anything else at the moment.
Trevor
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Subject: Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics
On 25.11.2008 (16:26), Trevor Daniels wrote:
Eyolf
Does this do what you want? I'm not sure what it is you want to do, so
this may be wide of the mark. The quotes make a phrase into one big
syllable which can then be placed by specifying its musical length. The
notes are spaced out to fit each phrase, but that can be controlled by
changing the musical length.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I'm after is a way to mimic the ligatures of
plainchant in ordinary notation. I've found that the easiest way to do
that
(without fiddling with scheme) is to use \time 1/4 and set all the
neumes as subdivisions of a quarter note. With \override BarLine
#'X-extent = #'(-1.5 . 1.5), each neume will then be separated into nice
groups, without having to resort to slurs etc.
BUT the problem that remains is that long syllables, like -bum cause the
notes on that syllable to be spread wider apart than e.g. with -ri-, as
in the following example:
\include gregorian.ly
spiritusC = \relative c' {
\time 1/4
\override Lyrics.LyricSpace #'minimum-distance = #0
d4 \times 2/3 { f8 a g } g a a4 g f8 e
d4 f8 g g8 d f g a g f4 g8 a a4
\times 2/3 { g8 f d } e f g a g4 }
spirLyr = \lyricmode {
Spi -- ri -- _ _ tus _ Do -- mi -- ni _
re -- ple -- _ vit _ or -- _ bem _ ter -- ra -- _ rum,
al -- _ _ le -- _ lu -- _ ia.
}
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = melody \spiritusC
\new Lyrics = one \lyricsto melody \spirLyr
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
\remove Collision_engraver
\override BarLine #'X-extent = #'(-1.5 . 1.5)
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override Beam #'transparent = ##t
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
\override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
I should also say that if there is a better way of doing this, I will stop
my search here and now.
eyolf
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Strange behavior with piano sustain in midi output
Hello!
Yesterday I have noticed some strange behavior with
using sustain pedal marks in midi output during the writing piano piece score.
I have removed some code and left just the minimal
snippet, where this problem appear.
I am not sure, but it seems to me in old lilypond 2.11.0 everything was OK.
In the listing below there are two marks.
In the line under the %%mark1 sustain commands do everything correct,
but in the line under %%mark2 output sounds as there is no sustain.
I have performed some experiments and noticed that this problem disappear
if remove \key command. But in large score this removing
does not make same effect.
Please, say, what is it? Is it a bug? Can I fix this? Currently I am using
lilypond 2.11.61.
The midi fragment I got with this listing is placed at
ftp://ftp.altlinux.org/pub/people/msp/tmp/fragment.midi
Thanks!
\version 2.11.61
partOneLeft = {
\key c \minor
\time 6/8
\clef bass
\tempo 4 = 140
\partial 4 r4
es4( g8 bes es'4 g8
bes es'4 g2)
f as c'4. f'4( c'8
f4 as2)
g b d'4. g'4( d'8
g4 b2)
c4( es8 g4 c'8
c2.)
as4( c'8 es' as'4 c'8
es' as'4 c'2)
f4.( as c'4.)
f4.( as c'4.)
g4.( b d'4.)
g4.( b d'4.)
c4( es8 g4 c'8
c2)
}
partOneLeftMidi = {
s4
s4 \ \sustainOn s8 s4 s8
s4 s2
%%mark1:
s4. \sustainOff \sustainOn s4 s8
s4 s2
%%mark2:
s4. \sustainOff \sustainOn s4 s8
s4 s2
s4 \sustainOff \sustainOn s8 s4 s8
s2.
s4 \sustainOff \sustainOn s8 s4 s8
s4 s2
s4. \sustainOff \sustainOn s4.
s4. s4.
s4. \sustainOff \sustainOn s4.
s4. s4.
s4 s8 s4 s8
s2 \sustainOff
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrumentName = piano
\new Staff = lower
{
\partOneLeft
}
{
\partOneLeftMidi
}
\midi { }
}
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RE: Just chords and lyrics.
You do not need a music score typesetting system to do this, just use a word processor or a spreadsheet. Yes, but if you have a piece of music that you want to extract different parts out of, and one of those is a chord-and-lyrics chart for a guitarist who can't tell tell the difference between music notation and squashed ants, it would be nice to have a simple way of getting LP to generate this.This is a good point - not everyone wants to use LP to create very complex pieces, and when dealing with music and musicians in a more pop vein you run into the folks that can play well well but have no clue about standard notation. I like the squashed ants comment...what gets me more irritated are those who can read music a little but refuse to in the pop music situation because they think they'll look uncool. My guitarist partner is a little like that and is sometimes bothered that I want a stand with at least the words to the 150 or so tunes we can play in front of me. I keep telling him that the best musicians in the world play with music in front of them...why shouldn't I? _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just chords and lyrics.
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Here's one possible solution:
\version 2.11.64
myChords = \chordmode {
c1 g f c
}
myMelody = {
c2 c4 c4 |
c4 c c c |
c4 c c c |
c2 c
}
myLyrics = \lyricmode {
Hi there let's |
have fun with this |
Here we have fun |
don't we
}
\new ChordNames {
\myChords
}
% \new Devnull {
%\new Voice = myVoice
\new Devnull = myVoice \myMelody
% }
\new Lyrics {
\lyricsto myVoice \myLyrics
}
End of snippet.
This will generate lots of warnings, but it gives chords aligned with
syllables.
I'm using version 2.11.63, rather than 2.11.64, and I don't get any
warnings - I don't get any output either! No pdf is generated. Rather
strange.
Brett
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