Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se writes: Xavier Scheuer wrote: There used to be a warning that said voices in a \\ structure are different from voices outside and thus forbid slurs, hairpins, ... to continue from voice outside the strucure to a voice inside. But I must admit I couldn't find that warning again in the doc. Hint: Look in the Learning manual. Maybe one should be able to declare one of the inner voices as \mainVoice and have it take the identity of the enclosing voice. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Not in this case. Well, the point is that at least 1 user made the mistake of trying to get LP to use the 'latest' Python -- maybe worth adding a line or two mentioning not to do this and explaining why? Not in this case. If we added something to the docs every time 1 user tried something weird, we'd get nothing done -- and more to the point, the docs would be much more difficult to read. If this becomes a common problem, then we'll re-evaluate the situation. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Creating Automatic Beam Settings in Irregular Meters
Hello, I am notating a piece of music that is in 11/8. I've been trying to figure out how I can get Lilypond to automatically group beams in a 3 +3+2+3 pattern. I tried the override-auto-beam-setting command, but it didn't work, I'm assuming it's because there is no auto-beam setting in the first place for 11/8. I also tried \set beatGrouping = #' (3 3 2 3), also to no success. In both attempts, the compiler still parsed it, except in neither did it have any effect. My Lilypond is version 2.10.25. Can anybody help me? Thank you, Dix ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections
oh, and stop lilyponding, and rest and get better. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections
James Bailey wrote:
On 01.03.2010, at 14:28, Graham Percival wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:03:02PM +0100, James Bailey wrote:
On 01.03.2010, at 12:11, Graham Percival wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 201Thanks for the offer, but isn't this exactly the
second example from
the bottom in LM 3.2.3 Voices and vocals ?
Yes and no. Yes, the judas maccabeus example does exactly what's
discussed here, single-staff polyphony with lyrics, but it's not really
clear that single-staff polyphony is at work here, and definitely
doesn't
show the usage of a short section of single staff polyphony. If need
be,
I can whip something super-simple up.
Sorry, I'm not following this at all. Please make up an example,
and explain why it's different/better than the current thing.
Note that I never use polyphony or lyrics, and have a fever, so
I'll either need a very simple explanation or have another
developer take over this discussion from me.
Cheers,
- Graham
This is basically what confuses people. No, it's not any different
than what's explained elsewhere, it's just that it's not explained all
together. All of the consituent pieces are explained, but nowhere is
really explained that this is how to have a short section of polyphony
when lyrics are present. I think we can leave the LSR examples if
lyrics need to be placed above the staff (for a descant, or some such).
\version 2.12.3
vocals = \relative {
c4 d e f
{
\voiceOne
g2 g
}\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
f4( e) e( d)
}
\oneVoice
c1
}
textAll = \lyricmode { This is some text that goes here }
\score {
\new Staff \new Voice = vocals \vocals
\new Lyrics \lyricsto vocals \textAll
}
The main point of confusion is that you cannot do what seems most
intuitive, namely to use the \\ construct. You will never be able
to make this point in the manual, unless you also include an example of
what does not work. I was convinced that I had seen such an example
somewhere in the documentation, but cannot find it right now.
Here's a version of James' example that does not do what most users
intuitively would expect.
\version 2.12.3
vocals = \relative {
c4 d e f
{ g2 g } \\ { f4( e) e( d) }
c1
}
textAll = \lyricmode { This is some text that goes here }
\score {
\new Staff \new Voice = vocals \vocals
\new Lyrics \lyricsto vocals \textAll
}
Note also that this problem must be pointed out both when talking about
the \\ construct and when talking about \lyricsto.
/Mats
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Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections
Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, March 01, 2010 2:59 PM The main point of confusion is that you cannot do what seems most intuitive, namely to use the \\ construct. You will never be able to make this point in the manual, unless you also include an example of what does not work. I was convinced that I had seen such an example somewhere in the documentation, but cannot find it right now. You may be thinking of 5.1.3 in the Notation Reference, which shows a similar situation but where the point being made is how to keep contexts alive when the melody line is silent for a few bars. Although even here there is no example of a construct that does not work. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections
Trevor Daniels wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, March 01, 2010 2:59 PM The main point of confusion is that you cannot do what seems most intuitive, namely to use the \\ construct. You will never be able to make this point in the manual, unless you also include an example of what does not work. I was convinced that I had seen such an example somewhere in the documentation, but cannot find it right now. You may be thinking of 5.1.3 in the Notation Reference, which shows a similar situation but where the point being made is how to keep contexts alive when the melody line is silent for a few bars. Probably! Although even here there is no example of a construct that does not work. It's my experience based on a number of years of teaching, that in situations like this one where the most intuitive approach does not work, it's far from enough to tell how to do it the right way, you also have to show why the intuitive approach does not work, preferably even by letting the student do the mistake himself first. There's still the risk that a few readers don't get the point and stick to the first (i.e. the erroneous) approach, but then they at least have been to the relevant page of the manual when doing it and is more likely to find their way back to the relevant information once they discover the problem. /Mats Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Creating Automatic Beam Settings in Irregular Meters
Dix Franke wrote Monday, March 01, 2010 2:49 PM I am notating a piece of music that is in 11/8. I've been trying to figure out how I can get Lilypond to automatically group beams in a 3 +3+2+3 pattern. I tried the override-auto-beam-setting command, but it didn't work, I'm assuming it's because there is no auto-beam setting in the first place for 11/8. No, this would not be the reason. It's actually easier if there is no auto-beam setting already defined, otherwise it would need to be cancelled first. But it can be tricky to get the commands' syntax right. Be sure you are using the manuals for the version of LP you are using, as there have been several changes to the auto-beam setting commands since 2.10. The settings you need should be somthing like #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 11 8) 3 8) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 11 8) 6 8) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 11 8) 8 8) to beam eighth notes as you want them I also tried \set beatGrouping = #' (3 3 2 3), also to no success. I don't think this worked in 2.10. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: Werner Icking Music Archive
Which lists would these be? James Matthias Kilian wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 08:33:22AM -0600, M.E. wrote: Some news I thought to share here. The Werner Icking Music Archive has closed its doors (for good?). http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php Too much traffic. http://www.daimi.au.dk/~reccmo/usage/ I think there're some ongoing discussions on the relevant lists to move the archive somewhere else. Ciao, Kili ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Werner Icking Music Archive
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 05:11:06PM +, James Lowe wrote: Which lists would these be? At least this one: TeX-Music icking-music-archive.org-tex-mu...@mailman.nfit.au.dk Ciao, Kili -- ``stastic'' is a fantastic typo. -- Miod Vallat ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Creating Automatic Beam Settings in Irregular Meters
On 1 Mar 2010, at 15:49, Dix Franke wrote: I am notating a piece of music that is in 11/8. I've been trying to figure out how I can get Lilypond to automatically group beams in a 3+3+2+3 pattern. I tried the override-auto-beam-setting command, but it didn't work, I'm assuming it's because there is no auto-beam setting in the first place for 11/8. I also tried \set beatGrouping = #' (3 3 2 3), also to no success. In both attempts, the compiler still parsed it, except in neither did it have any effect. My Lilypond is version 2.10.25. Can anybody help me? This has been changed, it seems. In 2.13.7 I use for example: \time 12/16 \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(12 . 16) #'end #'((* . (3 2 2 3 2))) which in your case should be: \time 11/8 \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(11 . 8) #'end #'((* . (3 3 2 3))) Hans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical dashed line conecting notes
I didn' t experiment that yet, but thank you for the help! 2010/2/27 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca Hi Caio Barros: 1. Try using grid lines: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Editorial-annotations#Grid-lines_003a-emphasizing-rhythms-and-notes-synchronization 2. Use cross-staff arpeggios, and modify the shape and offset. [See recent list threads for info.] Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Frescobaldi
Hi, Is anybody using Frescobaldi on OS X by any chance? -Mika Dr. Mika Kuuskankare Composer, programmer and researcher Centre for Music Technology Sibelius Academy Henkilökohtainen postiosoite/Personal post address PL 342 - PO Box 342 FIN-00121 Helsinki, FINLAND Mobile: +358 (0)40 5415 233 (Finland) Skype: mkuuskan personal home page: www.siba.fi/~mkuuskan project home page: www.siba.fi/PWGL ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
