Re: Box getting off-center

2011-03-25 Thread -Eluze


Michael Dykes wrote:
 
 I am now in a project that is working to set, and upload the vast
 repertoire
 of Orthodox liturgical music that exists. I harmonize, and arrange some of
 it, then send it along to a colleague to adds certain fields to my
 Lilyponded arrangements. He is mainly adding a boxed in area at the bottom
 of the last page that contains copyright info, and other pertinent stuff.
 Attached is one file He did, and another that I submitted, and He added
 the
 copyright info, and etc. However, while the file He did completely himself
 looks fine, mine has the box partly off the page. Can anyone help? Thanks.
 
hi

this seems due to the option #(set-global-staff-size 22)

if you don't want to reduce this size globally you can restrict this setting
to the musical score:

\score {
...
  \layout {
#(layout-set-staff-size 22)
} }

the tagline then will not be affected!

cheers
Eluze
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RE: embedding external graphics to lilypond

2011-03-25 Thread esa.erola
Thanks a lot Francisco!
Esa


-Original Message-
From: ext Francisco Vila [mailto:paconet@gmail.com] 
Sent: 24 March, 2011 12:28
To: Erola Esa (Nokia-MP/Espoo)
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: embedding external graphics to lilypond

2011/3/24 Esa Erola esa.er...@nokia.com:

 Hi,

 I am wandering if there is any way to embed graphics like scanned pictures, 
 jpg,
 png etc. to be shown on Lilypond pdf output?

Make an EPS and insert it inside of a markup with epsfile. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Graphic#index-inlining-an-Encapsulated-PostScript-image

Also, the code for this snippet shows an example  of using
lilypond-book to make documents with images and music.
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=231
-- 
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Rounds/catches with LilyPond

2011-03-25 Thread Ben Rudiak-Gould
Hello lilypond-users.

I'd like to engrave rounds with LilyPond 2.13 in a part-parallel
format similar to this:

  http://www.archive.org/stream/nationalsongbook00stan#page/n255/mode/2up

Although this looks simple compared to a lot of the crazy stuff in the
snippet repository, there is a problem that I don't know how to solve:
sometimes ties, slurs, or word hyphens/extenders have to stretch from
the end of one staff to the beginning of the next, as though the
staves were sequential instead of parallel. (See She Weepeth Sore,
above, for an example). Logically they are sequential, of course, but
I have to tell LilyPond they're parallel to make the notes line up.

Is there any way to solve this? I don't want to turn on strict note
spacing since it would uglify the score. The best idea I've had is to
render three consecutive copies of the piece (with the parts rotating)
and then somehow drop the first and third copies late in the rendering
process. But that would introduce a bunch of gunk into the source file
that's unrelated to the logical structure of the piece, it would
generate spurious warnings for ties and dashes at the end of the third
copy, LilyPond wouldn't know that the last system is really the last
so ragged-last options probably wouldn't work, etc. Is there a more
elegant solution?

Thanks,

-- Ben

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Re: LilyPond 2.12.3 and Fonts in Debian Squeeze

2011-03-25 Thread Tiresia Giuno


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:45:44 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/24 Tiresia Giuno tires...@gmail.com
 
 
  I'm running LilyPond 2.12.3 on Debian Squeeze. I can compile my
  files with no problems but if I change the font size I get an
  almost empty PDF file. It does not happen with every font size. For
  example setting #(set-global-staff-size 14) returns a PDF file
  containing just stems, beams and slurs (no noteheads, no clef, no
  dynamics)
 
 
 I've tried the minimal example below and it compiles fine using
 lilypond packaged in squeeze.
 Does it work for you?
 If it doesn't work, then there's definitely something wrong in your
 installation.
 
 \version 2.12.3
 #(set-global-staff-size 14)
 
 { a b c d }

Thanks for your reply. Yes, you are right. I can compile that simple
code. Still, I'm sure that the problem is not in my code, otherwise I
couldn't compile it in MacOSX. But following your suggestion, I will
try to rebuild my own code step by step, in order to understand where
the problem comes out.

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Dr Nicholas Bailey
On Friday 18 Mar 2011 08:14:48 Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
 Let's say, i love J. S. Bach very much (well, let's say), as much as my
 father and grandfather (etc). So, can i really be sure that i understand
 his music as good as my grandfather?.. I mean that every Beethoven's
 symphony contains a piece of information -- can i be sure that i can
 recognize it as good as my grandfather? Yes, i know this can not be
 measured at all.

I'm not sure you can't measure that. You should see what MRI scanners can 
measure these days. Get yourself scanned now, then perhaps your great 
grandchildren really will be able to see if they respond in the same way 
(using the same mechanisms) as you.

On Friday 18 Mar 2011 13:15:56 James Lowe wrote:
 Hello,
 ...
 When you are a 'grandfather' you will know the answer because the 'good'
 stuff of today will still be around or known and the 'bad' stuff will not
 (or rather it will be 'somewhere' but everyone will have forgotten about
 it). I am sure there are some exceptions but they won't be the rule, and
 of course things like distribution 'back in your grandfather's day' would
 have made some differences, but this frankly is not a consideration in our
 linked world today. We are exposed to more good and bad stuff than ever
 before.

Hmmm, I'm not sure. The point you make about distribution may be the more 
significant. You might find there are petabyte disks in your watch with the 
whole of human culture on them, or else your phone will be quantum-entangled 
with the whole of the web giving instant access to absolutely everything :) 
The real problem will be categorising it. Two ways: what do people who listen 
to the stuff I like also listen to; and (this is another reason why work like 
Graham's is important) What is there that is played in the same manner as the 
the stuff I like. The second, I believe, is beyond the state of the art, 
because we don't know what in the same manner means.

On Friday 18 Mar 2011 11:15:02 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
 Graham,
 ...
 I *do* think so -- and recent studies on youth support my belief with
 evidence. On the music side, consider the fact that recent studies have
 shown a majority of young people prefer the sound of compressed audio
 (e.g., low- to medium-bitrate MP3s) to uncompressed audio. [Pause here to
 fully appreciate the horror of that statement.] Independent of the content
 of the music itself -- the debate about which is far more subjective --
 many listeners can no longer appreciate what music is physically supposed
 to sound like.
Let's not confuse music with audio or sound. Everybody's hijacking the word 
Music these days. Music Industry (record industry), Music player (audio 
player). Music is a process and we make music. How do we make it? Let's 
experiment... reaches for source code
 
 A lower barrier of entry by definition allows people to get into the
 field with less experience, less training, less discipline, less
 persistence, and so on. Are there some benefits to this? Sure. Does it
 increase the amount of crap we have to wade through. Absolutely. I have
 yet to see any field -- athletics, art, construction, law, comedy,
 whatever -- where a lower barrier of entry doesn't increase the amount of
 crap. And, unfortunately, I also see in the audience for that field a
 concomitant decrease in discriminatory powers.
True, I'm sure, but more disturbing is that hardly anybody (in the UK at 
least) benefits from a general musical education in the state sector. You have 
to buy your lessons privately pretty much everywhere. What goes on in schools 
is music appreciation or, worse, free improvisation (except that it's not, 
except in the literal sense).

Lowering the barrier to making music might be a good thing. It's very 
different from lowering the barrier to people imposing their compositions on 
you in the local lift/supermarket/train etc etc. Perhaps exposing people to 
the process of making music might be a good defence against waning 
discrimination?

Thank you, everybody, for a great thread!

Nick/.

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Re: LilyPond 2.12.3 and Fonts in Debian Squeeze

2011-03-25 Thread Tiresia Giuno


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:45:44 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/24 Tiresia Giuno tires...@gmail.com
 
 
  I'm running LilyPond 2.12.3 on Debian Squeeze. I can compile my
  files with no problems but if I change the font size I get an
  almost empty PDF file. It does not happen with every font size. For
  example setting #(set-global-staff-size 14) returns a PDF file
  containing just stems, beams and slurs (no noteheads, no clef, no
  dynamics)
 
 
 I've tried the minimal example below and it compiles fine using
 lilypond packaged in squeeze.
 Does it work for you?
 If it doesn't work, then there's definitely something wrong in your
 installation.
 
 \version 2.12.3
 #(set-global-staff-size 14)
 
 { a b c d }

I think I found out where the problem is. I don't get any noteheads,
clef, dynamics if I use either \mp or mf.

Could you please try to compile your example like this:

\version 2.12.3
#(set-global-staff-size 14)

{ a\mp b c d }

Thanks a lot for your help.


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Re: LilyPond 2.12.3 and Fonts in Debian Squeeze

2011-03-25 Thread Tiresia Giuno



On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:49:24 +
James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 )-Original Message-
 )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
 )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
 )Behalf Of Tiresia Giuno
 )Sent: 24 March 2011 15:22
 )To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 )Subject: LilyPond 2.12.3 and Fonts in Debian Squeeze
 )
 )Hello,
 )
 )not sure this is the right place to ask the following question, but
 I hope )that someone knows more about this issue.
 )
 )I'm running LilyPond 2.12.3 on Debian Squeeze. I can compile my
 files with )no problems but if I change the font size I get an almost
 empty PDF file. It )does not happen with every font size. For example
 setting #(set-global- )staff-size 14) returns a PDF file containing
 just stems, beams and slurs (no )noteheads, no clef, no dynamics)
 )
 )Compiling the same file with LilyPond 2.12.3 in MacOSX works.
 )
 
 Can you try a different PDF viewer just to be sure it isn't that?
 
 James
 
 
Thanks for your reply. I did try a different PDF viewer (also
Acrobat in MacOSX) with the same result.
Tiresia 

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu 17 Mar 2011, 18:08 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
 Unfortunately, lower barrier of entry almost always means more crap to
 sift through.
 The more crap -- the lower criteria barrier for what is `crap'?.
 The more crap will become normal and even good thing.

Since the sieving is done in a distributed manner with manpower
proportional to the manpower producing the crap, even mostly linear
sieving will achieve letting the crap fall through.

Ask Darwin.

 Let's say, i *love* J. S. Bach very much (well, let's say), as much as
 my father and grandfather (etc). So, can i really be sure that i
 understand his music as good as my grandfather?..

There is little to understand, like there is little to understand about
why it hurts if you break your arm.  The important thing is that it
does, and the hurt is yours.  Not your grandfather's.  You can
sympathize with your grandfather, but comparing the qualities and
substance of your response seems a bit far-stretched.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David,

 You can sympathize with your grandfather, but comparing the qualities
 and substance of your response seems a bit far-stretched.

Not at all, I think… and very useful.

Oliver Sacks, for one example, measures and reports on [extreme] sensory 
perceptive (dis)abilities -- and books like Musicophilia make for a very 
interesting read. it would be *very* informative to have a [very] long-term 
study of average perceptive functioning. Based on my intuition and experience 
(i.e., anecdotal at best, and fatally biased at worst), I predict such a study 
would prove a general dulling of the human perceptive senses -- hence the 
ever-accelerating need to overstimulate each successive generation.

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hi David,

 You can sympathize with your grandfather, but comparing the qualities
 and substance of your response seems a bit far-stretched.

 Not at all, I think… and very useful.

Obviously I disagree.

 Oliver Sacks, for one example, measures and reports on [extreme]
 sensory perceptive (dis)abilities -- and books like Musicophilia
 make for a very interesting read. it would be *very* informative to
 have a [very] long-term study of average perceptive
 functioning. Based on my intuition and experience (i.e., anecdotal at
 best, and fatally biased at worst), I predict such a study would prove
 a general dulling of the human perceptive senses -- hence the
 ever-accelerating need to overstimulate each successive generation.

I can't claim that popular music appears to me as exhibiting much of a
trend to overstimulate harmonic receptors.  Even in the rare case of
four-part harmony (Beach Boys et al), they are mostly confined to
basically homophonic chord progressions rather than complex polyphony.

The trend seems more in the direction of understimulation to me.  Not
necessarily the worst thing considering the trend to have background
music playing everywhere.  Bach distracts from food and driving.

-- 
David Kastrup


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RE: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread James Lowe
Hello

)-Original Message-
)From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
)[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
)Behalf Of David Kastrup
)Sent: 25 March 2011 16:31
)To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
)Subject: Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music
)
)Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:
) Oliver Sacks, for one example, measures and reports on [extreme]
) sensory perceptive (dis)abilities -- and books like Musicophilia
) make for a very interesting read. it would be *very* informative to
) have a [very] long-term study of average perceptive functioning.
) Based on my intuition and experience (i.e., anecdotal at best, and
) fatally biased at worst), I predict such a study would prove a general
) dulling of the human perceptive senses -- hence the ever-accelerating
) need to overstimulate each successive generation.
)
)I can't claim that popular music appears to me as exhibiting much of a
)trend to overstimulate harmonic receptors.  Even in the rare case of four-
)part harmony (Beach Boys et al), they are mostly confined to basically
)homophonic chord progressions rather than complex polyphony.
)
)The trend seems more in the direction of understimulation to me.  Not
)necessarily the worst thing considering the trend to have background
)music playing everywhere.  Bach distracts from food and driving.
)

That's funny because most 'classical' music period (esp. Mozart) drives me to 
distraction!

James
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David,

 Not at all, I think… and very useful.
 Obviously I disagree.

Obviously.  =)

 The trend seems more in the direction of understimulation to me.

Obviously, I disagree.  =)

Twenty (never mind fifty) years ago, we [apparently] didn't need:
subwoofers at +10dB, and over-emphasized bass+drum hits, in order to feel 
the music;
a visual cut every 4-5 seconds in a movie in order to stay focussed on the 
film;
high levels of compression and limiting in order to feel like an audio 
recording was full;
etc. etc. etc.

These -- and other similar trends -- are a clear rebuke to your 
understimulation hypothesis.

Of course, if you were referring to *mental* stimulation (i.e., higher than the 
limbic brain), I agree with you 100%. But I'm talking about sensory stimulation 
-- and the trend is clearly towards overstimulation.

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hi David,

 Not at all, I think… and very useful.
 Obviously I disagree.

 Obviously.  =)

 The trend seems more in the direction of understimulation to me.

 Obviously, I disagree.  =)

 Twenty (never mind fifty) years ago, we [apparently] didn't need:
 subwoofers at +10dB, and over-emphasized bass+drum hits, in order
 to feel the music;
 a visual cut every 4-5 seconds in a movie in order to stay
 focussed on the film;
 high levels of compression and limiting in order to feel like an
 audio recording was full;
 etc. etc. etc.

Well, doesn't that speak towards understimulation to you?

If you need to turn up the light, it is more a sign of too little than
too much to see.

 Of course, if you were referring to *mental* stimulation (i.e., higher
 than the limbic brain), I agree with you 100%. But I'm talking about
 sensory stimulation -- and the trend is clearly towards
 overstimulation.

Background is not stimulation.  It is not taken into account by
perception much.

-- 
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David,

 Well, doesn't that speak towards understimulation to you?

Absolutely not: relative to past generations, today's youth apparently need to 
be overstimulated (*not* understimulated) in order to feel the same amount. 
In other words, more sensory stimulation needs to be present for them = 
overstimulation.

Kieren.
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 25. März 2011, um 19:03:20 schrieb David Kastrup:
 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:
  Twenty (never mind fifty) years ago, we [apparently] didn't need:
  subwoofers at +10dB, and over-emphasized bass+drum hits, in order
  to feel the music; a visual cut every 4-5 seconds in a movie in order 
  to stay focussed on the film;
  high levels of compression and limiting in order to feel like an
  audio recording was full;
  etc. etc. etc.
 
 Well, doesn't that speak towards understimulation to you?
 
 If you need to turn up the light, it is more a sign of too little than
 too much to see.

Or it simply means that you have stared into the sun / spotlight a bit too 
long, so now everything appears dark to you, no matter how bright it actually 
is...

Cheers,
Reinhold
-- 
--
Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
 * Financial  Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
 * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org

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Re: Rounds/catches with LilyPond

2011-03-25 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/24 Ben Rudiak-Gould benrud...@googlemail.com:
 Hello lilypond-users.

 I'd like to engrave rounds with LilyPond 2.13 in a part-parallel
 format similar to this:

  http://www.archive.org/stream/nationalsongbook00stan#page/n255/mode/2up

 Although this looks simple compared to a lot of the crazy stuff in the
 snippet repository, there is a problem that I don't know how to solve:
 sometimes ties, slurs, or word hyphens/extenders have to stretch from
 the end of one staff to the beginning of the next, as though the
 staves were sequential instead of parallel. (See She Weepeth Sore,
 above, for an example). Logically they are sequential, of course, but
 I have to tell LilyPond they're parallel to make the notes line up.

 Is there any way to solve this? I don't want to turn on strict note
 spacing since it would uglify the score. The best idea I've had is to
 render three consecutive copies of the piece (with the parts rotating)
 and then somehow drop the first and third copies late in the rendering
 process. But that would introduce a bunch of gunk into the source file
 that's unrelated to the logical structure of the piece, it would
 generate spurious warnings for ties and dashes at the end of the third
 copy, LilyPond wouldn't know that the last system is really the last
 so ragged-last options probably wouldn't work, etc. Is there a more
 elegant solution?

I think canons are more usually typeset completely sequential in a
single staff with numbers indicating the time which voices appear at.
This way you'll never experience problems with ties.  Just from my
little experience.  See example attached which coincidentally I had in
my lilypond folder.

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com
% Canon Under This Stone a 3v. H.Purcell

\version 2.13.46

cesura = { \breathe }

\header { title = Under this Stone
	subtitle = a 3 v. 
	composer = H. Purcell }

\relative a' {
\key f \minor
\time 3/4

%línea 1
%1
aes4.^1 g8 f4
e2 f4
des4. c8 des4
c2 \cesura c'8 bes

%línea 2
des4. c8 bes4
g2 aes4
f4. g8 e4
f2. \fermata
%2
f4.^2 g8 aes8( f)

%línea 3
c'2 c4
%aquí la ligadura punteada:
\slurDashed c4.( des8) \slurSolid bes4
c4. g8 aes4
f4. \cesura f8 des'4
bes4. bes8 es c

%línea 4
aes4. g8 aes4
f2. \fermata
%3
c'4.^3 bes8 aes4
g2 aes4
f4.( aes8) \slurDashed g( f) \slurSolid %ligadura punteada

%línea5
e4. e8 f4
bes,4. \cesura c8 des( bes)
es8.( f16 es8) des c4
des4. bes8 c4
f2. \bar :|

}

%{
convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.48
Procesando «»... 
Aplicando la conversión: 2.11.2, 2.11.3, 2.11.5, 2.11.6, 2.11.10, 2.11.11, 2.11.13, 2.11.15, 2.11.23, 2.11.35, 2.11.38, 2.11.46, 2.11.48, 2.11.50, 2.11.51, 2.11.52, 2.11.53, 2.11.55, 2.11.57, 2.11.60, 2.11.61, 2.11.62, 2.11.64, 2.12.0, 2.12.3, 2.13.0, 2.13.1, 2.13.4, 2.13.10, 2.13.16, 2.13.18, 2.13.20, 2.13.29, 2.13.31, 2.13.36, 2.13.39, 2.13.40, 2.13.42, 2.13.44, 2.13.46


%}
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold,

 Or it simply means that you have stared into the sun / spotlight a bit too 
 long, so now everything appears dark to you, no matter how bright it actually 
 is...

+1
I'm glad *someone* gets me.  ;)

Kieren.
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Re: Rounds/catches with LilyPond

2011-03-25 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/25 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
 2011/3/24 Ben Rudiak-Gould benrud...@googlemail.com:
 Hello lilypond-users.

 I'd like to engrave rounds with LilyPond 2.13 in a part-parallel
 format similar to this:

  http://www.archive.org/stream/nationalsongbook00stan#page/n255/mode/2up

 Although this looks simple compared to a lot of the crazy stuff in the
 snippet repository, there is a problem that I don't know how to solve:
 sometimes ties, slurs, or word hyphens/extenders have to stretch from
 the end of one staff to the beginning of the next, as though the
 staves were sequential instead of parallel. (See She Weepeth Sore,
 above, for an example). Logically they are sequential, of course, but
 I have to tell LilyPond they're parallel to make the notes line up.

 Is there any way to solve this? I don't want to turn on strict note
 spacing since it would uglify the score. The best idea I've had is to
 render three consecutive copies of the piece (with the parts rotating)
 and then somehow drop the first and third copies late in the rendering
 process. But that would introduce a bunch of gunk into the source file
 that's unrelated to the logical structure of the piece, it would
 generate spurious warnings for ties and dashes at the end of the third
 copy, LilyPond wouldn't know that the last system is really the last
 so ragged-last options probably wouldn't work, etc. Is there a more
 elegant solution?

 I think canons are more usually typeset completely sequential in a
 single staff with numbers indicating the time which voices appear at.
 This way you'll never experience problems with ties.  Just from my
 little experience.  See example attached which coincidentally I had in
 my lilypond folder.

Alternatively, you can use this for ties:

\new Staff {

 c' \repeatTie c' \laissezVibrer

}

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes:

 Am Freitag, 25. März 2011, um 19:03:20 schrieb David Kastrup:
 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:
  Twenty (never mind fifty) years ago, we [apparently] didn't need:
  subwoofers at +10dB, and over-emphasized bass+drum hits, in order
  to feel the music; a visual cut every 4-5 seconds in a movie in order 
  to stay focussed on the film;
  high levels of compression and limiting in order to feel like an
  audio recording was full;
  etc. etc. etc.
 
 Well, doesn't that speak towards understimulation to you?
 
 If you need to turn up the light, it is more a sign of too little than
 too much to see.

 Or it simply means that you have stared into the sun / spotlight a bit
 too long, so now everything appears dark to you, no matter how bright
 it actually is...

Again: staring into the sun is not overstimulation since it is not
overloading the sensors with content but rather blocking them.  Looking
into the sun can't be characterized as I am seeing too much.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
David,

 Again: staring into the sun is not overstimulation since it is not
 overloading the sensors with content but rather blocking them.  Looking
 into the sun can't be characterized as I am seeing too much.

There's clearly a semantic misunderstanding here, and it doesn't look like it's 
clearing up.
Regardless of the word used -- or who's using it backwards -- the point is that 
kids today are apparently less sensitive to stimulus than they used to be.

Kieren.
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Marc Mouries

On 3/25/2011 5:17 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

David,


Again: staring into the sun is not overstimulation since it is not
overloading the sensors with content but rather blocking them.  Looking
into the sun can't be characterized as I am seeing too much.

There's clearly a semantic misunderstanding here, and it doesn't look like it's 
clearing up.
Regardless of the word used -- or who's using it backwards -- the point is that 
kids today are apparently less sensitive to stimulus than they used to be.

Kieren.
Of course. We are overstimulated so it becomes the norm. Then to get 
stimulated the level of stimulation has to be raised. Just think about a 
subject like nudity where the level of stimulation raised from seeing an 
ankle to a knee, ... or a neck,  and shorten the length of skirts over 
time ;-)


To come back to music, there is ton of crap music (rich internet 
sensation?) and Lilypond can help compose and interpret great music.  I 
hope we can all agree on that one ;-)


-Marc

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 02:58:39AM -0300, Pato Press wrote:
And, if you want to, I have a not so good violin made in Blender, nearly
with all it's pieces. I have never completely finish it. I make it just to
start learning how to use Blender. but if you want it, I can sent it to
you. Obviously absolutely for free :)

Wow, that would be awesome!  Are you willing to officially place
it under GPLv3?  It would be totally fantastic to render movies
with something more than 4 cylinders + a rectangular prism + 1
moving cylinder.  (that's my level of Blender skill :)

Do you have a bow model as well?


The paper deadline was extended by one week (it was going to be
today), so I now have a chance to re-render the movies and include
a nice-looking screenshot (with credit to your work on the model,
of course!).

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Notes lining up, and warnings

2011-03-25 Thread Peter Chubb
 Father == Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com writes:

Father Can someone help me here?  On this Anglican chant , in the
Father tenth measure (end of the first section of verse two) the
Father melody notes are 1/2 notes and the harmony notes are whole
Father notes, yet in my pdf viewer, they are not lined up as I would
Father like them.  I've tried in LilyPondTool to shift them a bit,
Father but it doesn't seem to be working for some reason.  (It
Father introduces a horiz. shift expression into the line, but it
Father seems to have no effect.)

The problem is that the tenor and bass parts cross over here.
Lilypond offsets one of them to show this.

If you make the bass line stay below the tenor line all the way then
the line-up is perfect.

I found some of the formatting a bit strange --- but here's hwhat I
adjusted to get a result.  you may want to change it!

\header {
  filename = Psalm121.ly
  enteredby = Gordon Gilbert
  composer = Anglican Chant
  date=2011
  title = I Will Lift Up Mine Eyes
  subtitle = Psalm 121
  arranger = Gordon Gilbert
  mutopiacomposer = \composer
  maintainer = Gordon Gilbert
  maintainerEmail = g...@angelsroost.ca
  lastupdated = 2011 * March * 22
}

\version 2.13.29
\paper{
%  #(set-paper-size letter)
}

global= {
  \time 4/4 \key d \major
  \override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
  \skip 1*3 \bar ||
  \skip 1*4 \bar ||
  \skip 1*3 \bar ||
  \skip 1*4 \bar ||
}

sop =  \relative c' {
  fis1 a2 b d1
  fis,1 a2 b a a a1
  a1 b2 d2 cis( b)
  fis1 a2 b a e fis1
}

alto =  \relative c' {
d1 e2 fis g1
d1 e2 d e e fis1
d1 fis2 fis e1
d1 cis2 d e cis d1
  
}

tenor = \relative c' {
a1 a2 b b1
b1 cis2 b d cis a1
a1 b2 b b1
b,1 a'2 b a a a1
}

bass = \relative c' {
d,1 cis2 b g1
b1 a2 g a2 a d1
d1 fis2 fis b,1
b1 a2 g a a d d,1

}



text =  {

}



\score {
 \context ChoirStaff 
   \context Staff =upper  
   { 
 \clef G 
 
   \global
\context Voice = sop {\voiceOne \sop}
   \context Voice = alto {\voiceTwo \alto }
 
   }
   \context Staff = lower  
   { 
 \clef F
 
   \global
   \context Voice = tenor {\voiceOne \tenor}
   \context Voice = bass {\voiceTwo \bass}
 
   }
 

\layout{
indent = 0.0\pt
}
  \midi {
   \context {
  \Score
  tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 120 4)
}
 }
   }
\markup{
  \wordwrap-string #

1.  I WILL lift up mine | eyes un . to the | hills: *  O | whence -
cometh my | help?

2. My help cometh | even from the | LORD, * who | hath made heaven and | earth.

3. HE will not suffer thy | foot to be moved:  *  and he that |
keepeth thee will not | sleep.

4. Behold,| he that keep . eth | Israel  *  shall | neither slumber nor | sleep.

5. THE LORD him- | self is thy | keeper:  *  the LORD is thy de- |
fence upon thy right | hand;

6. So that the sun shall not | burn thee by | day,  *  nei- | ther the
moon by | night.

7. THE LORD shall pre - | serve thee from all | evil:  *  yea, it is
even | he that . shall keep thy | soul.

8. The LORD shall preserve thy going | out and thy coming | in,  *
from this time | forth for ever- | more.
}

  \markup { \wordwrap-string #

  Glory be to the | Father, and to the Son, * and | to the Holy Ghost;
}

 \markup {
   \wordwrap-string #
 As it was in the beginning, is | now, and ever | shall be, * world
without | end. A- | men.

 }  


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