Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Matthew Collett
On 5/07/2011, at 8:26 am, Graham Percival wrote:

 To me the sentence A tiny example is an example from which nothing
 can be removed. explains it all
 
 Can't whitespace be removed without affecting the outcome?  ;)
 
 Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)

And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_ an example 
from which nothing can be removed. 

Going into an Anglo-Saxon attitude,
Matthew
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 18:09 Matthew Collett wrote:
 On 5/07/2011, at 8:26 am, Graham Percival wrote:
  Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
 
 And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_
 an example from which nothing can be removed. 
Great, but if nothing==whitespace here -- yes, it can be removed,
but not should .)  So, just make it as readable as possible.

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Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joey
Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation;

In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.
This of course translates to n-tuplets,
but frees up the score (and mind) a 
bit so that one can really focus on
a clear nested tuplet formation/interpretation
within the general overview of a tuplet-based meter 
without a general increase in tempo (as one would get in compound 
time if adhering to the same principle).

I'm just curious if Lilypond would be able 
to handle something along these lines.


Basically I'm simply looking for the ability
to notate n/m meter without much trouble.

Thanks!


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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote:

 Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation;
 
 In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
 he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
 acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.
 This of course translates to n-tuplets,
 but frees up the score (and mind) a 
 bit so that one can really focus on
 a clear nested tuplet formation/interpretation
 within the general overview of a tuplet-based meter 
 without a general increase in tempo (as one would get in compound 
 time if adhering to the same principle).
 
 I'm just curious if Lilypond would be able 
 to handle something along these lines.
 
 
 Basically I'm simply looking for the ability
 to notate n/m meter without much trouble.
 
 Thanks!
 

Hey Joey,

The easiest way would be to create an override for the time signature stencil:
{
\time 2/8
\once \override Score . TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:override '(baseline-skip 
. 0) (#:center-column (#:number 2 #:number 10)
b8 b
}

Cheers,
MS
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Nick Payne

On 05/07/11 06:26, Graham Percival wrote:

Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
Actually, right-hand fingering requires whitespace. If the whitespace 
between #1 and  in c-\rightHandFinger #1 4 is removed, Lilypond 
throws an error.


Nick

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Re: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

2011-07-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com
To: Jacek Gajek jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com; lilypond-user 
lilypond-user@gnu.org

Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:45 AM
Subject: RE: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path


Hello,

From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Jacek 
Gajek [jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com]

Sent: 25 June 2011 12:35
To: lilypond-user
Subject: Fwd: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

In PATH I have C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin. It is a
correct path (the folder exists).

When I type lilypond:
GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
continuing, cross fingers
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

I use Miktex 2.9 x64.

Greetings,

2011/6/24 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:

- Original Message - From: Jacek Gajek jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path



Hello, I encounter the following output, no matter how do I try to use
lilypond from cmd.
lilypond-windows dragdrop works, but I want to generate an image
file (e.g. PNG) so I cannot use it.
What I want to include inline sheet music in a latex document. Not
interested in typing notes directly in
latex. I prefer to have them rendered in PNG files and rebuild and
include when necessary.

C:\Users\Jacek\Desktop\testlilypond test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
continuing, cross fingers
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

I have found a lot of posts with the same problem with solutions, but
I am confused what should I actually DO to get it working.
Could you provide me instructions step-by-step what should I do? I
mean, sth like this: click here, type this, press enter.
I have tried it for 3 hours, so I am not a give-me-the-codez guy.

Thanks in advance,



A couple of questions: what do you get when you just type lilypond
(without the quote marks) on the command line?  What's in your PATH
statement?


--

I reproduced this 'error message' on my Linux box.

I downloaded the sh file and installed LilyPond and I know it works because 
I did some simple test stuff on it by creating a test.ly on my desktop and 
running via CLI while being CWD in /Desktop:


lilypond --pdf test.ly

All works.

However if I try to run lilypond against a file in a 'relative dir' (rather 
than in the same dir) I get the same problem


--snip--

james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ pwd
/home/james
james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ lilypond --pdf ./Desktop/test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ cd Desktop/
james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ lilypond --pdf test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
Processing `test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test.ps'...
Converting to `./test.pdf'...
success: Compilation successfully completed
james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$
--snip--

Now this may be expected, as I have for the last two years used LP on a Mac 
or with Windows using the drag and drop method. I rarely if ever used LP in 
a CLI context and never on Linux until now.


My path is

james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ echo $PATH
/usr/lib/libfm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/james/lilypond/usr/bin/

So maybe this is the same issue.

Is this expected?

I haven't read any documentation :) I just assumed that all I had to do was 
point to my LP bin dir and I could run it on any file as long as I gave the 
full path.


James



It's not quite the same error - you don't get the lines:

programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
continuing, cross fingers

However, I wouldn't expect either, personally.  I can run with relative 
directory references on word fine.



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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes:

 On 05/07/11 06:26, Graham Percival wrote:
 Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
 Actually, right-hand fingering requires whitespace. If the whitespace
 between #1 and  in c-\rightHandFinger #1 4 is removed, Lilypond
 throws an error.

Not a particularly convincing example since as far as Lilypond is
concerned, it is Scheme's business to decide where its sexp ends.

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Re: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

2011-07-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Phil Holmes writes:

 In PATH I have C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin. It is a
 correct path (the folder exists).
 
 When I type lilypond:
 GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
 programming error: cannot find absolute argv0

This has been fixed in 2.13.5x.  As a workaround, use the
absolute file name to invoke LilyPond.  Better yet, upgrade
to 2.14.1.

Jan.

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Re: startpoint of decrescendo hairpins

2011-07-05 Thread Phil Holmes
That seems like a bug to me.  I'll report it as a bug, but you can work 
around it by putting the dynamics in the upper music rather than a 
dynamics context.


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From: Ewald Gutenkunst ewald.gutenku...@web.de

To: LilyPond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:17 AM
Subject: startpoint of decrescendo hairpins


Hi,

I have a question to decrescendo-hairpins and lyrics:
How can I change the startpoint of the decresc, to begin at the note an not 
at the beginning of the lyric?



\version 2.14.1

melody = { d''2 c''2   |  es''1  }
text = \lyricmode {a long  hairpin }
upper = {c'1| b4  b b b }
dynamics = {s1  |  s4 \   s4 s4 s4 \!   }

\score {
 
   \new Voice = mel  \melody
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
 \new Staff   \upper
 \new Dynamics \dynamics
 
}









greetings
ewald







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Re: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

2011-07-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Jacek Gajek jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path



Hello, I encounter the following output, no matter how do I try to use
lilypond from cmd.
lilypond-windows dragdrop works, but I want to generate an image
file (e.g. PNG) so I cannot use it.
What I want to include inline sheet music in a latex document. Not
interested in typing notes directly in
latex. I prefer to have them rendered in PNG files and rebuild and
include when necessary.

C:\Users\Jacek\Desktop\testlilypond test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
continuing, cross fingers
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

I have found a lot of posts with the same problem with solutions, but
I am confused what should I actually DO to get it working.
Could you provide me instructions step-by-step what should I do? I
mean, sth like this: click here, type this, press enter.
I have tried it for 3 hours, so I am not a give-me-the-codez guy.

Thanks in advance,

Jacek.a



It's been a while since you asked, but it's just been said that this is now 
fixed as a problem.  Please upgrade to 2.14 and let us know if you still 
have a problem.


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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 07/05/2011 08:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
 On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote:
 
 In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
 he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
 acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.
 
 The easiest way would be to create an override for the time signature stencil:

No, you don't need to be so complicated. :-)

Just put

  \time 2/10

Lilypond will give you a _warning_ that this is a non-standard time
signature, but it can handle the time signature and will produce a
corresponding bar of two quintuplet-eighths in length.

N.B. you _will_ need to put in place

  \times 4/5 {}

around the content of any such bar in order to ensure that quintuplets
are your base content type.

Try giving Lilypond the following:

{
\time 2/10
\times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 }
c'8 c'8
}

... and compare what happens in the first and second bar.

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R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Mario Moles
Hi lilyponders!
This is a bug?
In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:
\version 2.15.2

\paper {
  #(set-paper-size a3)
}

global = {
  \key c \major
  \time 4/4
}

violin = \relative c'' {
  \global
  % Qui segue la musica.
  R1\fermata|
}

\score {
  \new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Vl.
midiInstrument = violin
  } \violin
  \layout { }
  \midi {
\context {
  \Score
  tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)
}
  }
}

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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Urs Liska

User \fermataMarkup for whole bar rests.

HTH
Urs

Am 05.07.2011 12:12, schrieb Mario Moles:


Hi lilyponders!

This is a bug?

In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:

\version 2.15.2


\paper {

#(set-paper-size a3)

}


global = {

\key c \major

\time 4/4

}


violin = \relative c'' {

\global

% Qui segue la musica.

R1\fermata|

}


\score {

\new Staff \with {

instrumentName = Vl.

midiInstrument = violin

} \violin

\layout { }

\midi {

\context {

\Score

tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)

}

}

}


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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Phil Holmes
No.  Check the Notation Reference:

Markups can be added to multi-measure rests. The predefined command 
\fermataMarkup is provided for adding fermatas. 

\compressFullBarRests
\time 3/4
R2.*10^\markup { \italic ad lib. }
R2.^\fermataMarkup


==
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mario Moles 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:12 AM
  Subject: R1\fermata


  Hi lilyponders!

  This is a bug?

  In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:

  \version 2.15.2




  \paper {

  #(set-paper-size a3)

  }




  global = {

  \key c \major

  \time 4/4

  }




  violin = \relative c'' {

  \global

  % Qui segue la musica.

  R1\fermata|

  }




  \score {

  \new Staff \with {

  instrumentName = Vl.

  midiInstrument = violin

  } \violin

  \layout { }

  \midi {

  \context {

  \Score

  tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)

  }

  }

  }


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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Wakeling wrote:

 On 07/05/2011 08:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
 On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote:
 
 In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
 he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
 acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.
 
 The easiest way would be to create an override for the time signature 
 stencil:
 
 No, you don't need to be so complicated. :-)
 
 

True, but I say easiest because the solution of creating a non-standard time 
signature will lead to a lot of changing between dead and not-dead tuplet 
stencils.

nixtup = {\once \override TupletBracket #'stencil = ##f \once \override 
TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f }
{
   \time 2/10
   \nixtup
   \times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 }
   \nixtup
   \times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 }
   \nixtup
   \times 4/5 {
 % no nix tup because this is a nested tuplet that we want to see.
 \times 2/3 { c'8 c'8 c'8 }
   }
}

Whereas the time signature stencil change avoids this sort of book-keeping.

However, if you are harvesting data from engravers and/or using MIDIs, then 
Joseph is absolutely right - \time 2/10 is the best way to do it.

Cheers,
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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Urs Liska

Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations.
I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens:

{
\time 2/10
\times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 } \bar ||

% \scaleDurations scales without tuplet numbers or brackets
\scaleDurations #'(4 . 5) { c'8 c'8 c'8 c'8 } \bar ||

% I put a few bars of straight eighths to show what happens
c'8 c' c' c' c' c' c' c'
}

Best
Urs



Am 05.07.2011 11:45, schrieb Joseph Wakeling:

On 07/05/2011 08:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:

On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote:


In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.

The easiest way would be to create an override for the time signature stencil:

No, you don't need to be so complicated. :-)

Just put

   \time 2/10

Lilypond will give you a _warning_ that this is a non-standard time
signature, but it can handle the time signature and will produce a
corresponding bar of two quintuplet-eighths in length.

N.B. you _will_ need to put in place

   \times 4/5 {}

around the content of any such bar in order to ensure that quintuplets
are your base content type.

Try giving Lilypond the following:

{
 \time 2/10
 \times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 }
 c'8 c'8
}

... and compare what happens in the first and second bar.

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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 05.07.2011 12:12, schrieb Mario Moles:


Hi lilyponders!

This is a bug?

In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:



with Rs, I think you'll have to use \fermataMarkup:

R1\fermataMarkup

HTH,

Marc


\version 2.15.2


\paper {

#(set-paper-size a3)

}


global = {

\key c \major

\time 4/4

}


violin = \relative c'' {

\global

% Qui segue la musica.

R1\fermata|

}


\score {

\new Staff \with {

instrumentName = Vl.

midiInstrument = violin

} \violin

\layout { }

\midi {

\context {

\Score

tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)

}

}

}


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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/7/5 Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it:
 Hi lilyponders!

 This is a bug?

I think not. On whole-measure rests you should use

{
  R1 -\fermataMarkup
}

Using plain rests also works.

{
  r1 \fermata
}

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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 12:12 Mario Moles wrote:
 Hi lilyponders!
Hi!

 This is a bug?
No, it's not!

 In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:
Please search for \fermataMarkup.
(R1 is not a note)

 violin = \relative c'' {
   \global
   % Qui segue la musica.
   R1\fermata|
 }

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setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Hello list,

I have the following definition in my preamble:

myStaffSize = #20

\paper {
  ragged-right = ##f
  indent = 3\cm
  print-all-headers = ##t
  #(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree Goudy Bookletter 1911
  GoudyBookletter1911Italic
  GoudyBookletter1911BoldCondensed
  ( / myStaffSize 20)
 ))
}

and in my scores a lot of parts like this:

\markup {
  \word-wrap {
 here is some text with \underline { marked } words and stuff.
  }
}

Now I want to change the score size by an external script depending on
the voices I'll include. This works, but I want the markup text to be,
say, 12pt in height throughout the document, no matter how myStaffSize
is defined.

I can use
\markup {
  \abs-fontsize #value { \word-wrap
  ... bla ...
  }
}

but I think there is a more generic solution, but searching the Manual and
the archives didn't give any clue.

Thanks in advance,

Marc





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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Mario Moles
Ok! Good! Solved!
Thank you so match!
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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 07/05/2011 12:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
 Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations.
 I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens:

Nice solution!  Very convenient to have since right now I'm working on a
few contemporary-music examples for the docs.  Do you mind if I use your
example (or a variant on it) for this purpose?

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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
 And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_ an example 
 from which nothing can be removed. 

Awesome.
That's why I love language, and debates where either side (including myself) 
try to tie it down and make it perfectly clear.  =)

Thanks for my daily smile, Matt!
Kieren.
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Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Urs Liska



Am 05.07.2011 13:45, schrieb Joseph Wakeling:

On 07/05/2011 12:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote:

Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations.
I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens:

Nice solution!  Very convenient to have since right now I'm working on a
few contemporary-music examples for the docs.  Do you mind if I use your
example (or a variant on it) for this purpose?

Go ahead. If I would mind I wouldn't have posted on this list ;-)

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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Marc,

 but I think there is a more generic solution, but searching the Manual and
 the archives didn't give any clue.

What about

\layout {
  \context {
\Score
\override TextScript #'abs-fontsize = #14
  }
}

??

Hope this helps,
Kieren.

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Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-05 Thread Francesco Guglie
Yes, it is possible. :) Here's a small example (maybe it is just a bit silly, 
but it works).

\version 2.14.0
\relative c'' { 
  c2. \times 2/3 { c4 b a } 
  c2~ c8 \times 2/3 { c8[ b a] } 
} 

Enjoy the discover of LilyPond! 

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Re: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

2011-07-05 Thread Jacek Gajek
2011/7/5 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
 - Original Message - From: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com
 To: Jacek Gajek jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com; lilypond-user
 lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:45 AM
 Subject: RE: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path


 Hello,
 
 From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
 [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Jacek
 Gajek [jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 25 June 2011 12:35
 To: lilypond-user
 Subject: Fwd: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

 In PATH I have C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin. It is a
 correct path (the folder exists).

 When I type lilypond:
 GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
 programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
 continuing, cross fingers
 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
 ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

 I use Miktex 2.9 x64.

 Greetings,

 2011/6/24 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:

 - Original Message - From: Jacek Gajek jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:16 PM
 Subject: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path


 Hello, I encounter the following output, no matter how do I try to use
 lilypond from cmd.
 lilypond-windows dragdrop works, but I want to generate an image
 file (e.g. PNG) so I cannot use it.
 What I want to include inline sheet music in a latex document. Not
 interested in typing notes directly in
 latex. I prefer to have them rendered in PNG files and rebuild and
 include when necessary.

 C:\Users\Jacek\Desktop\testlilypond test.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
 programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
 continuing, cross fingers
 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
 ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

 I have found a lot of posts with the same problem with solutions, but
 I am confused what should I actually DO to get it working.
 Could you provide me instructions step-by-step what should I do? I
 mean, sth like this: click here, type this, press enter.
 I have tried it for 3 hours, so I am not a give-me-the-codez guy.

 Thanks in advance,


 A couple of questions: what do you get when you just type lilypond
 (without the quote marks) on the command line?  What's in your PATH
 statement?

 --

 I reproduced this 'error message' on my Linux box.

 I downloaded the sh file and installed LilyPond and I know it works because
 I did some simple test stuff on it by creating a test.ly on my desktop and
 running via CLI while being CWD in /Desktop:

 lilypond --pdf test.ly

 All works.

 However if I try to run lilypond against a file in a 'relative dir' (rather
 than in the same dir) I get the same problem

 --snip--

 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ pwd
 /home/james
 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ lilypond --pdf ./Desktop/test.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
 ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ cd Desktop/
 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ lilypond --pdf test.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
 Processing `test.ly'
 Parsing...
 Interpreting music...
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 Finding the ideal number of pages...
 Fitting music on 1 page...
 Drawing systems...
 Layout output to `test.ps'...
 Converting to `./test.pdf'...
 success: Compilation successfully completed
 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$
 --snip--

 Now this may be expected, as I have for the last two years used LP on a Mac
 or with Windows using the drag and drop method. I rarely if ever used LP in
 a CLI context and never on Linux until now.

 My path is

 james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ echo $PATH
 /usr/lib/libfm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/james/lilypond/usr/bin/

 So maybe this is the same issue.

 Is this expected?

 I haven't read any documentation :) I just assumed that all I had to do was
 point to my LP bin dir and I could run it on any file as long as I gave the
 full path.

 James

 

 It's not quite the same error - you don't get the lines:

 programming error: cannot find absolute argv0
 continuing, cross fingers

 However, I wouldn't expect either, personally.  I can run with relative
 directory references on word fine.


 --
 Phil Holmes


All fixed after I added an environment variable
GUILE_LOAD_PATH=C:\Program Files
(x86)\LilyPond\usr\share\guile\2.0.1.


Greetings -- Jacek Gajek

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Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-05 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, Joey --

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Joey username652...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a
 barline?


Sure, it's possible. See Permitting line breaks within beamed tuplets at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#tuplets

Best,
David
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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 05.07.2011 15:15, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:

Hi Marc,


but I think there is a more generic solution, but searching the Manual and
the archives didn't give any clue.

What about

\layout {
   \context {
 \Score
 \override TextScript #'abs-fontsize = #14
   }
}

??

No, that doesn't have any effect. :-(

Ideally, there is something I can put in a separate include file which 
works for
*all* markups that follow (which are mixed with scores and bundled in 
several

\bookpart contexts.

Marc


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Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread Nick
Hello.

I'm new to Lilypond and going through the tutorial right now.
One thing I'm noticing is that whenever Lilypond is open
(even just sitting idly in the background), my computer runs
noticeably slower. It's a new MacBook Pro, 8 gigs of RAM.
It can run Logic, Sibelius, many tabs of Chrome, Mail,
etc. etc. without slowing down at all, so I'm wondering
what Lilypond is doing that's so memory intensive and
how I can fix it. The Lilypond I downloaded is 2.15.4. Any ideas?


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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread -Eluze


Marc Hohl wrote:
 
 Am 05.07.2011 15:15, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
 

 \layout {
\context {
  \Score
  \override TextScript #'abs-fontsize = #14
}
 }

 ??
 No, that doesn't have any effect. :-(
 
 Ideally, there is something I can put in a separate include file which 
 works for
 *all* markups that follow (which are mixed with scores and bundled in 
 several
 \bookpart contexts.
 
i think Kieren's solution works if you override the property of the
TextScript in its real context which seems to be the Voice context:

\layout { 
  \context { 
\Voice 
\override TextScript #'font-size = #-12
} }

hth
Eluze
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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Andrea La Rose

Dear Phil,

I've reduced the example to just viola 3  4 and included only up to the
part where it stops working properly. The first line breaks mid-measure as
I'd like, without my having to do anything special. But the second system
runs off the page. Thoughts?

cheers,
Andrea
http://old.nabble.com/file/p31998090/putrefaction_test.ly
putrefaction_test.ly 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p31998090/putrefaction_test.pdf
putrefaction_test.pdf 

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Re: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread Tim McNamara
You can check on this by using the Activity Monitor (in the Finder, Go menu  
Utilities  Activity Monitor).  If you sort alphabetically you can easily find 
Lilypond and see whether it is demanding a lot of CPU cycles, hogging memory 
and/or spawning a lot of subprocesses that are slowing things down.

There's no reason to keep Lilypond open, however, unless you are using the 
built-in text editor and there are frankly much better options for writing .ly 
files (Smultron, Fraise, Emacs, etc.).

Tim


On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Nick wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I'm new to Lilypond and going through the tutorial right now.
 One thing I'm noticing is that whenever Lilypond is open
 (even just sitting idly in the background), my computer runs
 noticeably slower. It's a new MacBook Pro, 8 gigs of RAM.
 It can run Logic, Sibelius, many tabs of Chrome, Mail,
 etc. etc. without slowing down at all, so I'm wondering
 what Lilypond is doing that's so memory intensive and
 how I can fix it. The Lilypond I downloaded is 2.15.4. Any ideas?

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Re: help with pitchedtrill

2011-07-05 Thread Alex Jones
Thanks very much, this worked well.

Best,

Alex

On Jun 29, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

 Hi Alex (and Mike),
 
 What I really want is the trill with a flat sign, but I didn't figure that 
 one out.
 
 This is what I do:
 
 trillWithFlat = {
  \once \override TrillSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text
= \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.trill \smaller \raise #0.675 \flat }
 }
 trillWithNatural = {
  \once \override TrillSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text
= \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.trill \smaller \raise #0.75 \natural }
 }
 trillWithSharp = {
  \once \override TrillSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text
= \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.trill \smaller \raise #.875 \sharp }
 }
 
 \relative c' {
  \override TrillSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #1.75
  \trillWithFlat c1\startTrillSpan
  \trillWithNatural c1\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan
  \trillWithSharp c1\stopTrillSpan\startTrillSpan
  c1\stopTrillSpan
 }
 
 Hope this helps!
 Kieren.

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RE: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

)-Original Message-
)From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
)[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
)Behalf Of Nick
)Sent: 05 July 2011 15:28
)To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
)Subject: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow
)
)Hello.
)
)I'm new to Lilypond and going through the tutorial right now.
)One thing I'm noticing is that whenever Lilypond is open (even just sitting
)idly in the background), my computer runs noticeably slower. It's a new
)MacBook Pro, 8 gigs of RAM.
)It can run Logic, Sibelius, many tabs of Chrome, Mail, etc. etc. without
)slowing down at all, so I'm wondering what Lilypond is doing that's so
)memory intensive and how I can fix it. The Lilypond I downloaded is
)2.15.4. Any ideas?
)
---
[James' reply:] 
I assume you are using the inbuilt editor (LilyPad) that comes with the 
software (as opposed to the text editor?).

I suggest if you open Activity Monitor and then see exactly what LilyPond (or 
LilyPad as this editor is called) is actually using.

I'd been using 2.15.1-3 on my 4 GB iMac (2nd gen) with no noticeable issues.

James

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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hey Eluze,

 i think Kieren's solution works if you override the property of the
 TextScript in its real context which seems to be the Voice context:

D'oh!
Sorry for the noise… thanks for the correction!

Kieren.
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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 05.07.2011 18:17, schrieb -Eluze:

[...]
i think Kieren's solution works if you override the property of the
TextScript in its real context which seems to be the Voice context:

\layout {
   \context {
 \Voice
 \override TextScript #'font-size = #-12
} }

hth
Eluze

No, it is still not working. Attached are two minimal files which don't
show any difference in the font size regardless of the value for 
abs-fontsize.



Marc

\layout {
   \context {
  \Voice
  \override TextScript #'abs-fontsize = #100
   }
}\version 2.15.5

\include myinclude.ily

\markup {
  \wordwrap {
 This is a sample text.
  }
}
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Re: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread Hans Aberg

On 5 Jul 2011, at 16:27, Nick wrote:

 I'm new to Lilypond and going through the tutorial right now.
 One thing I'm noticing is that whenever Lilypond is open
 (even just sitting idly in the background), my computer runs
 noticeably slower. 

Have you checked in Activity Monitor or the Terminal using 'top -u -R' what os 
taking up uch CPU time?

Hans



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Re: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/5/11 8:27 AM, Nick nickpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I'm new to Lilypond and going through the tutorial right now.
 One thing I'm noticing is that whenever Lilypond is open
 (even just sitting idly in the background), my computer runs
 noticeably slower. It's a new MacBook Pro, 8 gigs of RAM.
 It can run Logic, Sibelius, many tabs of Chrome, Mail,
 etc. etc. without slowing down at all, so I'm wondering
 what Lilypond is doing that's so memory intensive and
 how I can fix it. The Lilypond I downloaded is 2.15.4. Any ideas?
 

I don't have any idea as to what is wrong.  But you could help us out with a
bit of troubleshooting.

First, open up Activity Monitor and see what the LilyPond app is using in
CPU, memory, etc.  Then try quitting LilyPond and see what effect that has.

Second, I'd recommend using some other editor besides the built-in LilyPond
editor.  LilyPond is fundamentally a text-based system, and very little
development work goes into the GUI apps for OSX and Windows (in fact, we may
not even be shipping LilyPad for Windows any more; I haven't followed this
carefully).  LilyPondTool for Jedit is certainly Mac compatible.  I believe
that Frescobaldi now is Mac compatible as well, but I'm not positive.

If you use an editor other than the LilyPond editor, you'll not only have
better features, but I'm certain you won't see a decrease in your system
speed.

HTH,

Carl


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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Neil Puttock
On 5 July 2011 15:45, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:

 Ideally, there is something I can put in a separate include file which works
 for
 *all* markups that follow (which are mixed with scores and bundled in
 several
 \bookpart contexts.

I don't think this is possible without redefining interpret-markup
directly inside scm/makup.scm, i.e.,

(define-public (interpret-markup layout props arg)
   (ly:text-interface::interpret-markup layout props
(make-abs-fontsize-markup 12 arg)))

It is possible to redefine interpret-markup inside a .ly file, but
you'll find top-level markup ignores the new settings since
interpret-markup-list will still use the original definition (it's
defined directly following interpret-markup, and gets called from C++
when generating paper-book output).

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Neil Puttock
On 5 July 2011 17:01, Andrea La Rose andrea.lar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've reduced the example to just viola 3  4 and included only up to the
 part where it stops working properly. The first line breaks mid-measure as
 I'd like, without my having to do anything special. But the second system
 runs off the page. Thoughts?

You've got so much going on in the viola parts at this point that the
equivalent of eight 4/4 bars on one line is too much for the paper
size.  I'd suggest changing the \global block to use seven-bar skips.

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 05.07.2011 21:03, schrieb Neil Puttock:

On 5 July 2011 15:45, Marc Hohlm...@hohlart.de  wrote:


Ideally, there is something I can put in a separate include file which works
for
*all* markups that follow (which are mixed with scores and bundled in
several
\bookpart contexts.

I don't think this is possible without redefining interpret-markup
directly inside scm/makup.scm, i.e.,

(define-public (interpret-markup layout props arg)
(ly:text-interface::interpret-markup layout props
(make-abs-fontsize-markup 12 arg)))

It is possible to redefine interpret-markup inside a .ly file, but
you'll find top-level markup ignores the new settings since
interpret-markup-list will still use the original definition (it's
defined directly following interpret-markup, and gets called from C++
when generating paper-book output).

Neil, thanks for your answer. Your solution is at least so complicated
that I don't feel stupid for not having discovered it for myself ;-)

I think the search and replace feature of my favorite text editor comes
in handy now ...

Regards,

Marc


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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 09:32:15AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes:
 
  On 05/07/11 06:26, Graham Percival wrote:
  Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
  Actually, right-hand fingering requires whitespace. If the whitespace
  between #1 and  in c-\rightHandFinger #1 4 is removed, Lilypond
  throws an error.
 
 Not a particularly convincing example since as far as Lilypond is
 concerned, it is Scheme's business to decide where its sexp ends.

True, but I bet that
  c4defis
won't compile, whereas
  c4 d e fis
is perfectly ok.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Andrea La Rose
Dear Neil,

I just tried your suggestion, but it still only seems to affect the first
system and nothing else. I even reduced it to four-bar skips, but the second
system has far more than that and runs off the page. I can't figure out why
it applies to one system, but not others. I'm wondering if the fall-offs or
the glissandi are creating problems.

cheers,
Andrea

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 July 2011 17:01, Andrea La Rose andrea.lar...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've reduced the example to just viola 3  4 and included only up to the
  part where it stops working properly. The first line breaks mid-measure
 as
  I'd like, without my having to do anything special. But the second system
  runs off the page. Thoughts?

 You've got so much going on in the viola parts at this point that the
 equivalent of eight 4/4 bars on one line is too much for the paper
 size.  I'd suggest changing the \global block to use seven-bar skips.

 Cheers,
 Neil




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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:

 On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 09:32:15AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes:
 
  On 05/07/11 06:26, Graham Percival wrote:
  Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
  Actually, right-hand fingering requires whitespace. If the whitespace
  between #1 and  in c-\rightHandFinger #1 4 is removed, Lilypond
  throws an error.
 
 Not a particularly convincing example since as far as Lilypond is
 concerned, it is Scheme's business to decide where its sexp ends.

 True, but I bet that
   c4defis
 won't compile, whereas
   c4 d e fis
 is perfectly ok.

Where is the but?  That's a convincing example.  The other wasn't.

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RE: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

2011-07-05 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Tim 
McNamara [tim...@bitstream.net]
Sent: 05 July 2011 17:56
To: LilyPond User
Subject: Re: Lilypond making my Macbook Pro run slow

You can check on this by using the Activity Monitor (in the Finder, Go menu  
Utilities  Activity Monitor).  If you sort alphabetically you can easily find 
Lilypond and see whether it is demanding a lot of CPU cycles, hogging memory 
and/or spawning a lot of subprocesses that are slowing things down.

There's no reason to keep Lilypond open, however, unless you are using the 
built-in text editor and there are frankly much better options for writing .ly 
files (Smultron, Fraise, Emacs, etc.).


What exactly does 'keep lilypond open' mean in this context? It just runs once, 
sprouts a pdf and then stops. That's why I can't understand what else would be 
running unless we have a memory leak somewhere?

LilyPad is as far as I can see a very lightweight editor (and much easier to 
use than bother with mucking about with plug ins for things like Smultron which 
just got in the way).

You leave LilyPad alone! :P She's done me proud and I wouldn't use anything 
else on a Mac (thanks to whoever came up with that BTW).

:)

James
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Re: Problem with \set currentBarNumber

2011-07-05 Thread Neil Puttock
On 26 June 2011 17:40, Nick Baskin amphio...@gmail.com wrote:

 After moving the Bar_number_engraver, the Timing_translator, and the
 Default_bar_line_engraver to the Staff context, everything seems to be
 working correctly except for the repeat.  The bracket for the first
 alternate disappears after the final line break, and there is no repeat sign
 printed. (The attached example demonstrates the problem.) Moving the
 Volta_engraver has no effect on the output. Is there another repeat engraver
 that I'm missing somewhere?

I think you'll also need to move the Repeat_acknowledge_engraver.

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Neil Puttock
On 5 July 2011 22:45, Andrea La Rose andrea.lar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just tried your suggestion, but it still only seems to affect the first
 system and nothing else. I even reduced it to four-bar skips, but the second
 system has far more than that and runs off the page. I can't figure out why
 it applies to one system, but not others. I'm wondering if the fall-offs or
 the glissandi are creating problems.

global = { \time 4/4 { s1*8 } \bar  \break { s1*8 } }

There's only one forced break here, so only the first line is broken
properly if you change the skip length.  If you want regular breaks,
you can use \repeat unfold to ensure there are enough breaks
throughout the piece.

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Andrea La Rose

When I use \repeat unfold, it changes the time signatures in the parts —
actually it adds them to the ones that are already there. When I only use it
once, it simply breaks the first system. 

http://old.nabble.com/file/p32000936/Screen%2Bshot%2B2011-07-05%2Bat%2B6.13.08%2BPM.png
 

I didn't use \repeat unfold before, because it's not in this snippet, but
seems to work out okay:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#printing-music-with-different-time-signatures

But I see now that that particular global only needs to happen once.

We're getting closer! Thanks...
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Re: Polymetric music and page breaks

2011-07-05 Thread Andrea La Rose

This snippet seems to do the trick:

global = { \repeat unfold 3 { \time 4/4 \once \override Staff.TimeSignature
#'stencil = ##f { s1*4 } \bar  \break { s1*4 } 

The override of the stencil removes the extra time signatures; the once
command ensures that not all of the time signatures throughout the piece are
removed.

I'll apply this to the larger work and report back. Thanks for helping!

cheers,
Andrea
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