Re: How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-16 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Harm,

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Morley <
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I regarded the gap-property, but \once\override Beam #'gap = #15 seems to
> do nothing, so I dropped that thought.
>

You have to do this instead:

\once \override Beam #'length-fraction = #15

(See  http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg65014.html)

I noticed that your function as it stands only aligns the bracket correctly
with \stemUp.  I don't know if this is your intention.  Anyway, I've
attached a file which accounts for beam direction.

-David


harm-beam.ly
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Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter,

Are you simply trying to replace Lilypond's inter-syllable hyphen with an 
emdash? If so, just override it directly:

\version "2.15.14"
\paper { ragged-right = ##f }
MD = {
  \once \override LyricHyphen #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
  \once \override LyricHyphen #'text = "—"
  \once \override LyricHyphen #'X-offset = #4.5
}
theNotes = \relative c' { c4 c c c c c c c }
theWords = \lyricmode { Nor -- mal \MD re -- placed nor -- mal nor -- mal }
\score {
  <<
\new Staff \theNotes
\addlyrics \theWords
  >>
}

Anyway, this should give you some ideas and point you in the right direction.
(n.b., There's probably a more elegant way than the manual X-offset, but I 
don't have time to work it out right now.)

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Peter Olin
I also notice that with the enclosing of the actual syllable and the en-dash
within double quotes, the alignment of the syllable with the note is
distorted.


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:12, Peter Olin  wrote:

> Thanks Kieren!
>
> That's close to what I want. Yes.
>
> However I'd like to see the en-dash *centered* between the two words it
> separates. With your workaround it's sort of attached to the left one" And I
> guess one could get it more towards the second by placing the quotes
> differently.
>
> Sorry for being picky, but that's why I'm trying to get the typesetting
> done with TeX. :-)
>
> /Peter
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 20:52, Kieren MacMillan <
> kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Does this give you what you want?
>> \addlyrics { Må det väck -- ta sin -- "net—" vär -- de -- fullt sub --
>> "limt—"  }
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Kieren.
>
>
>
>
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>



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Re: How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-16 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi David,

2011/10/16 David Nalesnik 

>
> Hi again,
>
> I sent that off too quickly...
>
> Instead of
>
> #(define ((stencil-plus-bracket beam-count) grob)
>>
>
> use
>
>  #(define (stencil-plus-bracket grob)
>
> -David
>
>
this works!

I regarded the gap-property, but \once\override Beam #'gap = #15 seems to do
nothing, so I dropped that thought. Also, I'm not familiar with getting a
property from a parent and I didn't manage to figure it out myself.

Thanks a lot,

Harm
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Re: How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-16 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi again,

I sent that off too quickly...

Instead of

#(define ((stencil-plus-bracket beam-count) grob)
>

use

 #(define (stencil-plus-bracket grob)

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Re: How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-16 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, Harm --

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM, harm6 wrote:
>
>
> In the little test-function below I have to put in the beam-count manually.
> And the value of the between-beam-space is a guess.
>
> Any hint to improve?
>

You can get the space between the beams from the 'gap property.  (It's
measured in half staff-spaces, so this value needs to be halved.)  Also, you
can get the number of beams through the 'beaming property.  Here I've gotten
the beam-count from the first stem.

I hope this helps!

\version "2.14.2"

#(define ((stencil-plus-bracket beam-count) grob)
 (let* ((beam (ly:beam::print grob))
(beam-count (length (cdr (ly:grob-property (ly:grob-parent grob X)
'beaming
(beam-positions (ly:grob-property grob 'positions))
(gap (* 0.5 (ly:grob-property grob 'gap)))
(single-beam-thickness (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-thickness))
(whole-beam-thickness
  (+ (* beam-count single-beam-thickness)(* (- beam-count 1) gap)))
(bracket (ly:bracket Y (cons (* -0.5 whole-beam-thickness) (* 0.5
whole-beam-thickness)) 0.05 0.4)))

 (ly:stencil-add
   beam
   (ly:stencil-in-color
 (ly:stencil-translate
   bracket
   (cons -1 (- (car beam-positions) (* 0.38 whole-beam-thickness
   1 0 0))
 ))

\relative c' {
   \stemUp
   \once\override Beam #'stencil = #stencil-plus-bracket
   f'32 [f f f]
   \once\override Beam #'stencil = #stencil-plus-bracket
   f16 [f f f]
   \once\override Beam #'stencil = #stencil-plus-bracket
   f64 [f f f]
}

Best,

David
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Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter,

Does this give you what you want?
\addlyrics { Må det väck -- ta sin -- "net—" vär -- de -- fullt sub -- "limt—"  
}

Hope this helps,
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Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Peter Olin
Hi Jan-Peter!

Thanks for the tip.

Using an UTF dash indeed makes it show up in the lyrics - and so far that's
good.

But then the trouble is that I don't want it to "consume" a note. It seems
to be counted as a syllable.

I've been looking at the LyricHyphen and tried to experiment with overriding
various values - but as it appears, the en-dash is not at all affected by
this (but all the inter-word-hypens are).


I found something that looks a bit promising,

skipFour = \repeat unfold 4 { \skip 8 }


But I'm a) not entirely clear about the numbers, and b) it only skips over
the notes - the en-dash is still being counted as a syllable.

I need some more help or pointers here,  I'm getting in over my head in the
nitty gritty.

/Peter


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:39, Jan-Peter Voigt  wrote:

> Hello Peter,
>
> to include the mdash sign in lilypond, it should appear as such in the
> (UTF8) encoded source. The double dash in lilypond evokes a hyphenation
> event to draw thin and short Lines between two syllables. If the emdash is
> not a syllable on its own, you might want to override hyphen properties.
>
> HTH
> Cheers,
> Jan-Peter
>
>
>
> Am 16.10.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Peter Olin :
>
> Hi all!
>
> After a 20+ years hiatus from LaTeX use, I've again found reasons to wet my
> toes again.
>
> I'm trying to typeset some verse with LilyPond - where the verse text
> includes hyphens (endashes, or possibly emdashes), but it's not as
> straightforward as I had hoped using LilyPond. Maybe someone can help.
>
> The original verse text looks like this i LaTeX:
> "Må det väckta sinnet -- värdefullt, sublimt --"
>
> and I want those endashes to appear in the lyrics below as well. But they
> don't.
>
> Can someone help me out with this?
>
> \begin{lilypond}
> % set the starting point to middle C
> \relative c' { c c c c c c d d d d c r }
> % The -- endash:es disappear. I would like to see them between the words
> "sinnet" and "värdefullt", as well as after "sublimt".
>
> \addlyrics {Må det väck- ta sin- net -- vär- de- fullt sub- limt --  }
> \end{lilypond}
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> --
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Re: 2.15.14 will not run on Mac x86

2011-10-16 Thread Stan Sanderson
On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:49 AM, "Phil Holmes"  wrote:

> "Stan Sanderson"  wrote in message 
> news:0d770350-3bf2-4555-8f4c-ee7b5d86c...@gmail.com...
>> Sad to report that LilyPond v 2.15.14-1 fails to run on my iMac. Error 
>> report follows below.
>> As previously reported, v 2.15.8 is the last version to run successfully. 
>> The previously suggested workaround was not effective.
>> Process: LilyPond [285]
>> Path: /Users/ssanders/Desktop/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond
>> Identifier:  org.lilypond.lilypond
>> Version: ??? (???)
>> Code Type:   X86 (Native)
>> Parent Process:  launchd [130]
>> 
>> Interval Since Last Report:  80698 sec
>> Crashes Since Last Report:   5
>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   3
>> 
>> Date/Time:   2011-10-10 09:04:18.581 -0500
>> OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L30)
>> Report Version:  6
>> Anonymous UUID:  DD0B279C-6937-406C-9BD0-5411DEFF183B
>> 
>> Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
>> Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x
>> Crashed Thread:  0
>> 
>> Dyld Error Message:
>> unknown required load command 0x8022
>> 
>> 
>> Stan
> 
> I believe this is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943 ?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Phil Holmes
> Bug Squad

Correct, I should have referenced #1943 in my last post. I just updated my 
comments on the bug list to indicate that the problem has not been solved. 
LilyPond 2.15.14 as modified by chh...@gmail.com also crashes at startup.

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How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-16 Thread harm6

Hi,

trying to override Beam-stencil I need to read out the number of beams, the
space between the beams and the thickness of the whole beam (shown by the
red bracket). Of course I need only two of this values to detemine the
third, but I only managed to get the thickness of a single Beam.

http://old.nabble.com/file/p32662208/clip.png 

In the little test-function below I have to put in the beam-count manually.
And the value of the between-beam-space is a guess.

\version "2.14.2"

#(define ((stencil-plus-bracket beam-count between-beam-space) grob)
  (let* ((beam (ly:beam::print grob))
 (beam-positions (ly:grob-property grob 'positions))
 (single-beam-thickness (ly:grob-property grob 'beam-thickness))
 (whole-beam-thickness (+ (* beam-count single-beam-thickness) (* (-
beam-count 1) between-beam-space)))
 (bracket (ly:bracket Y (cons (* -0.5 whole-beam-thickness) (* 0.5
whole-beam-thickness)) 0.05 0.4)))
 
  (ly:stencil-add
beam
(ly:stencil-in-color
  (ly:stencil-translate
bracket
(cons -1 (- (car beam-positions) (* 0.38 whole-beam-thickness
1 0 0))
  ))
  
\relative c' {
\stemUp
\once\override Beam #'stencil = #(stencil-plus-bracket 3 0.35)
f'32 [f f f]
\once\override Beam #'stencil = #(stencil-plus-bracket 2 0.35)
f16 [f f f]
\once\override Beam #'stencil = #(stencil-plus-bracket 4 0.35)
f64 [f f f]
} 

Any hint to improve?

Thanks,
  Harm
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Re: cuenotes are not displayed (Ian Hulin)

2011-10-16 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2011, 13:35:42 schrieb Stefan Thomas:
> Dear Reinhold,
> thanks for Your fast reply.
> The problem is: I don't exactly know, which other commands could cause
> hiding the quoted voice than \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= ?

All things that create a different context. Examples are:
\new Voice { ... }
<< { ... } \\ { ... } >>
\partcombine {...} {...}

Cheers,
Reinhold


> I have the problem, that the music of the cellopart is not quoted, although
> it isn't a Pianostaff.


> 
> 2011/10/16 Reinhold Kainhofer 
> 
> > Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2011, 10:01:46 schrieb Stefan Thomas:
> > > Dear community,
> > > because of the wrong code, I post You my snippet again.
> > > The Problem is: the quoted voice doesn't appear in the staff
> > > "anotherinstrument" and it has definetily to do with the command
> > > 
> > > > \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= "Piano"
> > > 
> > > Is there  possibilitie to get the quodation without quitting the
> > > command that sets the instrumentName for the PianoStaff?
> > > I have the problem, in a larger score, hat some cuenotes are not
> > 
> > displayed.
> > 
> > > I assume  it has to do with some commands that are related to
> > > another
> > > context than Voice.
> > 
> > Yes, that was one case of bug 1214
> > (http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1214 ). It was fixed
> > in
> > LilyPond 2.15.9, so as soon as 2.16 is released, you'll have a fix.
> > I don't know any easy workaround in earlier lilypond versions (except
> > removing
> > the offending commands from the music, e.g. by creating a second copy
> > \rightII, which is only used in \addQuote and which does not have the
> > \set command).
> > That's what I had used before I finally fixed bug 1214.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Reiknhold
> > 
> > > Here my new snippet:
> > > 
> > > \version "2.14.2"
> > > 
> > > > right  = {
> > > > 
> > > >   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano"
> > > >   c'' 4 g' a' b'   c'' 4 d'' e'' f'' g'' 1 }
> > > > 
> > > > \addQuote "right" { \right }
> > > > anotherinstrument = { c' 1 \quoteDuring #"right" s1 c'1  }
> > > > 
> > > > \score { \new Staff \anotherinstrument }
> > 
> > --
> > --
> > Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com,
> > http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/> 
> >  * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
> >  * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
> >  * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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Re: cuenotes are not displayed (Ian Hulin)

2011-10-16 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Reinhold,
thanks for Your fast reply.
The problem is: I don't exactly know, which other commands could cause
hiding the quoted voice than \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= ?
I have the problem, that the music of the cellopart is not quoted, although
it isn't a Pianostaff.

2011/10/16 Reinhold Kainhofer 

> Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2011, 10:01:46 schrieb Stefan Thomas:
> > Dear community,
> > because of the wrong code, I post You my snippet again.
> > The Problem is: the quoted voice doesn't appear in the staff
> > "anotherinstrument" and it has definetily to do with the command
> >
> > > \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= "Piano"
> >
> > Is there  possibilitie to get the quodation without quitting the command
> > that sets the instrumentName for the PianoStaff?
> > I have the problem, in a larger score, hat some cuenotes are not
> displayed.
> > I assume  it has to do with some commands that are related to another
> > context than Voice.
>
> Yes, that was one case of bug 1214
> (http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1214 ). It was fixed
> in
> LilyPond 2.15.9, so as soon as 2.16 is released, you'll have a fix.
> I don't know any easy workaround in earlier lilypond versions (except
> removing
> the offending commands from the music, e.g. by creating a second copy
> \rightII, which is only used in \addQuote and which does not have the \set
> command).
> That's what I had used before I finally fixed bug 1214.
>
> Cheers,
> Reiknhold
>
> > Here my new snippet:
> >
> > \version "2.14.2"
> >
> > > right  = {
> > >   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano"
> > >   c'' 4 g' a' b'   c'' 4 d'' e'' f'' g'' 1 }
> > >
> > > \addQuote "right" { \right }
> > > anotherinstrument = { c' 1 \quoteDuring #"right" s1 c'1  }
> > >
> > > \score { \new Staff \anotherinstrument }
> --
> --
> Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
>  * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
>  * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
>  * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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Re: cuenotes are not displayed (Ian Hulin)

2011-10-16 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2011, 10:01:46 schrieb Stefan Thomas:
> Dear community,
> because of the wrong code, I post You my snippet again.
> The Problem is: the quoted voice doesn't appear in the staff
> "anotherinstrument" and it has definetily to do with the command
> 
> > \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= "Piano"
> 
> Is there  possibilitie to get the quodation without quitting the command
> that sets the instrumentName for the PianoStaff?
> I have the problem, in a larger score, hat some cuenotes are not displayed.
> I assume  it has to do with some commands that are related to another
> context than Voice.

Yes, that was one case of bug 1214 
(http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1214 ). It was fixed in 
LilyPond 2.15.9, so as soon as 2.16 is released, you'll have a fix. 
I don't know any easy workaround in earlier lilypond versions (except removing 
the offending commands from the music, e.g. by creating a second copy 
\rightII, which is only used in \addQuote and which does not have the \set 
command).
That's what I had used before I finally fixed bug 1214.

Cheers,
Reiknhold

> Here my new snippet:
> 
> \version "2.14.2"
> 
> > right  = {
> >   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano"
> >   c'' 4 g' a' b'   c'' 4 d'' e'' f'' g'' 1 }
> > 
> > \addQuote "right" { \right }
> > anotherinstrument = { c' 1 \quoteDuring #"right" s1 c'1  }
> > 
> > \score { \new Staff \anotherinstrument }
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Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Peter,

to include the mdash sign in lilypond, it should appear as such in the (UTF8) 
encoded source. The double dash in lilypond evokes a hyphenation event to draw 
thin and short Lines between two syllables. If the emdash is not a syllable on 
its own, you might want to override hyphen properties.

HTH
Cheers,
Jan-Peter



Am 16.10.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Peter Olin :

> Hi all!
> 
> After a 20+ years hiatus from LaTeX use, I've again found reasons to wet my 
> toes again.
> 
> I'm trying to typeset some verse with LilyPond - where the verse text 
> includes hyphens (endashes, or possibly emdashes), but it's not as 
> straightforward as I had hoped using LilyPond. Maybe someone can help.
> 
> The original verse text looks like this i LaTeX: 
> "Må det väckta sinnet -- värdefullt, sublimt --"
> 
> and I want those endashes to appear in the lyrics below as well. But they 
> don't. 
> 
> Can someone help me out with this?
> 
> \begin{lilypond}
> % set the starting point to middle C
> \relative c' { c c c c c c d d d d c r }
> % The -- endash:es disappear. I would like to see them between the words 
> "sinnet" and "värdefullt", as well as after "sublimt".
> 
> \addlyrics {Må det väck- ta sin- net -- vär- de- fullt sub- limt --  }  
> \end{lilypond}
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-16 Thread Peter Olin
Hi all!

After a 20+ years hiatus from LaTeX use, I've again found reasons to wet my
toes again.

I'm trying to typeset some verse with LilyPond - where the verse text
includes hyphens (endashes, or possibly emdashes), but it's not as
straightforward as I had hoped using LilyPond. Maybe someone can help.

The original verse text looks like this i LaTeX:
"Må det väckta sinnet -- värdefullt, sublimt --"

and I want those endashes to appear in the lyrics below as well. But they
don't.

Can someone help me out with this?

\begin{lilypond}
% set the starting point to middle C
\relative c' { c c c c c c d d d d c r }
% The -- endash:es disappear. I would like to see them between the words
"sinnet" and "värdefullt", as well as after "sublimt".

\addlyrics {Må det väck- ta sin- net -- vär- de- fullt sub- limt --  }
\end{lilypond}



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Re: 2.15.14 will not run on Mac x86

2011-10-16 Thread Phil Holmes
"Stan Sanderson"  wrote in message 
news:0d770350-3bf2-4555-8f4c-ee7b5d86c...@gmail.com...
Sad to report that LilyPond v 2.15.14-1 fails to run on my iMac. Error 
report follows below.
As previously reported, v 2.15.8 is the last version to run successfully. 
The previously suggested workaround was not effective.

Process: LilyPond [285]
Path: 
/Users/ssanders/Desktop/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond

Identifier:  org.lilypond.lilypond
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [130]

Interval Since Last Report:  80698 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   5
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   3

Date/Time:   2011-10-10 09:04:18.581 -0500
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L30)
Report Version:  6
Anonymous UUID:  DD0B279C-6937-406C-9BD0-5411DEFF183B

Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0

Dyld Error Message:
 unknown required load command 0x8022


Stan


I believe this is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943 ?


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Re:cuenotes are not displayed (Ian Hulin)

2011-10-16 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community,
because of the wrong code, I post You my snippet again.
The Problem is: the quoted voice doesn't appear in the staff
"anotherinstrument" and it has definetily to do with the command

> \set PianoStaff.instrumentName= "Piano"
>
Is there  possibilitie to get the quodation without quitting the command
that sets the instrumentName for the PianoStaff?
I have the problem, in a larger score, hat some cuenotes are not displayed.
I assume  it has to do with some commands that are related to another
context than Voice.
Here my new snippet:

\version "2.14.2"
> right  = {
>   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano"
>   c'' 4 g' a' b'   c'' 4 d'' e'' f'' g'' 1 }
> \addQuote "right" { \right }
> anotherinstrument = { c' 1 \quoteDuring #"right" s1 c'1  }
>
> \score { \new Staff \anotherinstrument }
>
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