more space between systems?
I'm having some trouble creating more space between systems. I have tried increasing the system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance and system-system-spacing #'padding variables. But when I compile I receive the message warning: cannot fit music on page: ragged-spacing was requested, but page was compressed and the systems are very tightly packed on the page. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Erik -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/more-space-between-systems--tp33666340p33666340.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Am 10.04.2012 08:37, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
What is the benefit of the two voices approach and when should I avoid the
stem up/down?
It's not a matter of benefits - using stemUp/Down instead of
voiceOne/Two/.. simply produces typographically wrong results:
stemUp/Down only changes the direction of stems, while the direction
of ties, slurs, articulations, dots, positioning of rests etc. should
be changed, too.
I can't contradict this statement. But sometimes I don't find a way to
place the notes without stemUp/Down like in this example:
\version 2.14.2
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4
s2.
\times 4/6 {r16 b cis d[ cis b]} \times 4/6 {r16 cis d e[ d cis]}
d a fis d | % 40
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\clef bass \key g \major \time 3/4
c4 d e |
\change Staff=right g4 a \change Staff=left fis | % 40
}
The left hand plays the two quavers (g and a). The semiquaver rests
belong to the right hand's voice. Therefore I want to quavers shown
below the rests. But the notes in the sextuplet should keep the stems
down to avoid a high skyline.
I played around with voiceOne/Two but found no solution. Probably you
have a one?
Threre was a change in the documentation to underline this difference,
but apparently it's not enough. Maybe you could suggest what we
should do to make this issue clear for all users?
Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14
documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint
to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages.
Which section are you referring?
Regards,
Helge
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musicxml2ly lilypond output formatting
Hi,
As I posted earlier, I often get better results with lilypond files
generated by musicxml2ly after a little bit of extra editing.
As musicxml2ly gets better and bugs are found and fixed, this post-editing
will be required less and less, I guess/hope.
When editing the files I noticed that the musicxml2ly output formatting
is not very nice looking sometimes. I mean the placement of braces,
indentation, (lack of) empty lines to separate music={ . } blocks.
Things that help improve readability and make editing more fun.
For example .ly files generated by midi2ly look somewhat better.
Frescobaldi's re-formatting feature helps a lot, but it would be nice if
musicxml2ly would produce nicely formatted lilypond files. I guess you
could call this an improvement request.
BTW: Are there any written rules/conventions about how a nicely formatted
lilypond source should look?
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Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:34:18 -0700 Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com wrote: A composer recently gave me a messy part he'd prepared with Sibelius, and I asked him for a musicxml file on the off chance that it might work in Lilypond and I could clean it up. With Lilypond 2.15.36 (Slackware 13.37, x86), I get the error below along with no output file. I tried the prebuilt lilypond stable as well, and the only difference in the console output are line numbers in the musicxml2ly script. Should I send this to the bugs list, or is there something I can do as a user (without access to Sibelius) to improve the likelihood of getting this to work? # # # # # Console Output $ musicxml2ly -v --loglevel=DEBUG --nd --nrp --npl --no-beaming -o moore.ly moore.xml Setting loglevel to DEBUG musicxml2ly: Reading MusicXML from moore.xml ... musicxml2ly: Converting to LilyPond expressions... Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2984, in module main() File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2979, in main voices = convert (filename, options) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2885, in convert (voices, staff_info) = get_all_voices (parts) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2572, in get_all_voices part_ly_voices[n] = musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice (v) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2174, in musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice for a in musicxml_direction_to_lily (n): File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1534, in musicxml_direction_to_lily ev = tmp_tp (entry) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1465, in musicxml_metronome_to_ly if isinstance (children[index], musicxml.BeatUnitDot): IndexError: list index out of range # # # # # End Console Output That is a python error, a bug in the musicxml2ly script. children is a list and index is a number but the number is higher than the list has items. Can't tell more from just that exception. Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, 2012/4/11 Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Am 10.04.2012 08:37, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net ... Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: more space between systems?
Erik, On 11 April 2012 07:19, eriksbike eriksb...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm having some trouble creating more space between systems. I have tried increasing the system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance and system-system-spacing #'padding variables. But when I compile I receive the message warning: cannot fit music on page: ragged-spacing was requested, but page was compressed and the systems are very tightly packed on the page. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Well first make sure you are on at least version 2.14.x not 2.12 as there are many significant improvements/changes to system spacing. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems Then if this doesn't help, you'd need to give a *brief* example of the spacing code you are using. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
That is a python error, a bug in the musicxml2ly script. children is a list and index is a number but the number is higher than the list has items. Can't tell more from just that exception. Nils Nils, would you like to see the file? I shouldn't put it out on the internet where all can see (I'm not by any stretch the copyright holder), but if you think looking at the file would help, I'd happily send it your way. You could also try to import the musicxml file into MuseScore: MuseScore is available for Linux, Windows and Mac. It does not only read musicxml, but midi as well. Plus: it exports in lilypond-format! I've had success in reading a musicxml file which would *not* convert with the musicxml2ly script. This very file could be imported in MuseScore and exported as lilypond file. Matthias, thank you for the suggestion. Will try that just as soon as musescore finishes compiling :P —Josiah ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly lilypond output formatting
- Original Message - From: Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl To: lilypond-user mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: musicxml2ly lilypond output formatting BTW: Are there any written rules/conventions about how a nicely formatted lilypond source should look? -- MT There's some guidance on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/lilypond-formatting -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: node head positions
Am 11.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Tim Roberts: Huang wrote: Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions. I just want to caution you about how difficult this task will be. The PDF output does contain a link for each note that tells you where, in the original LilyPond input file, that note or chord originated. It does NOT tell you the note's pitch or duration, and that information is not trivially derivable from the original source, either. There's no good way to line up the PDF with the MIDI. But there _have_ been efforts in such directions, isn't it? I recall someone having a (drum?) score doing exactly this. He used the SVG output IIRC ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: node head positions
Hello, On 11 April 2012 09:43, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Am 11.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Tim Roberts: Huang wrote: Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions. I just want to caution you about how difficult this task will be. The PDF output does contain a link for each note that tells you where, in the original LilyPond input file, that note or chord originated. It does NOT tell you the note's pitch or duration, and that information is not trivially derivable from the original source, either. There's no good way to line up the PDF with the MIDI. But there _have_ been efforts in such directions, isn't it? I recall someone having a (drum?) score doing exactly this. He used the SVG output IIRC http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-05/msg00331.html You may need to contact Mike directly. james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
From what you told us it's impossible to say that the python error results from a bug in the musicxml2ly script. You could/should to several things: -) comment out all parts and measures in the .xml-file except the first measure in the first part. -) Test the file with musicxml2ly. -) If there's no python error comment in measure by measure and convert it every time with musicxml2ly. -) Send us/me the measure which causes the error... hth patrick Am 11.04.2012 um 09:44 schrieb Josiah Boothby: That is a python error, a bug in the musicxml2ly script. children is a list and index is a number but the number is higher than the list has items. Can't tell more from just that exception. Nils Nils, would you like to see the file? I shouldn't put it out on the internet where all can see (I'm not by any stretch the copyright holder), but if you think looking at the file would help, I'd happily send it your way. You could also try to import the musicxml file into MuseScore: MuseScore is available for Linux, Windows and Mac. It does not only read musicxml, but midi as well. Plus: it exports in lilypond-format! I've had success in reading a musicxml file which would *not* convert with the musicxml2ly script. This very file could be imported in MuseScore and exported as lilypond file. Matthias, thank you for the suggestion. Will try that just as soon as musescore finishes compiling :P —Josiah ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
I tried \once \override but it didn't work. As far as I understand the BarLine is a part of the staff context which cannot be changed from one occurence to the other (that is why you have to use the /startStaff and /stopStaff). And in my example it is changed for the whole staff (or the three parts). My problem however is, that the barline between my part 2 and three is already shown in the color of the part 3 where I think it is defined and belongs to part 2. Regards Uwe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/System-in-different-colors-tp33660259p33668611.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: node head positions
On 12-04-10 03:00 PM, Huang wrote: Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions. Thanks, Herbert In addition to Frescobaldi, definitely my editor of choice on both WIndows and Linux, you could have a look at Rosegarden. It will import the MIDI files which lilypond can produce, and you can then display each track in Rosegarden's notation editor and see the notes highlighted as you play them through a MIDI output. Clearly, tools such as KMidimon and Rosegarden also allow you to watch the MIDI events as you hear them played, but if you are looking to hear the notation, then Rosegarden might well be worth a look. Cheers, Colin the Elder -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
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Re: v 2.15.36 on Mac OS
Hello, Still the same error with Mac x86 OSX 10.4.11 as in the previous 2.15.35 package. Klaus ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
Am 11.04.2012 00:20, schrieb Josiah Boothby: I'm a bit surprised you have musicxml from Sibelius. As far as I was aware, it doesn't export into _any_ useful interchange format, including musicxml. Googling suggests there is an expensive 3rd party program. Googling also suggests that Sibelius is confident of their MusicXML output in version 7.x. Using xmllint to test for xml validity, it does not appear to have any problems there, so it seems to me that there are problems either with Sibelius's export to xml or with Lilypond's conversion scripts. Sibelius's dev team primarily tests transport to and from Finale, so I think both export and conversion are likely culprits for problems. —Josiah You could also try to import the musicxml file into MuseScore: MuseScore is available for Linux, Windows and Mac. It does not only read musicxml, but midi as well. Plus: it exports in lilypond-format! I've had success in reading a musicxml file which would *not* convert with the musicxml2ly script. This very file could be imported in MuseScore and exported as lilypond file. Bottom line: give it a try, it might work. Matthias -- Matthias Böhringer Brunnenstraße 6 72296 Schopfloch-Unteriflingen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
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output to .png file
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Re: output to .png file
Am 11.04.2012 um 13:01 schrieb christian: How can I make a .png file of mij lilypond score? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts --png Yourfile.ly see also: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/lilypond-output-in-other-programs.html HTH ole ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: output to .png file
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Re: more space between systems?
I am using 2.14.
Here is my basic code. Hopefully my problem will be immediately obvious... ?
\book {
\paper {
system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance = #12
system-system-spacing #'padding = #8
}
#(set-global-staff-size 15)
\header {
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff {\melodya }
\new Staff {\melodyb }
\new Staff {\melodyc }
\layout { indent = #0 }
}
}
James-379 wrote:
Erik,
On 11 April 2012 07:19, eriksbike eriksb...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm having some trouble creating more space between systems.
I have tried increasing the system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance and
system-system-spacing #'padding variables. But when I compile I receive
the
message warning: cannot fit music on page: ragged-spacing was requested,
but page was compressed and the systems are very tightly packed on the
page.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Well first make sure you are on at least version 2.14.x not 2.12 as
there are many significant improvements/changes to system spacing.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems
Then if this doesn't help, you'd need to give a *brief* example of the
spacing code you are using.
James
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Re: System in different colors
Hi,
I tried \once \override but it didn't work.
It should. You can also move the override of BarLine later as I do below.
My problem however is, that the barline between my part 2 and three is
already shown in the color of the part 3 where I think it is defined and
belongs to part 2.
I believe the issue here is that the barline is considered to _begin_ the
new measure rather than end the old one. I can't think of a way around
this except what James suggests. (Then there's the issue of the staff
lines underneath the bar line, to which I don't have a ready answer.)
BTW, your bars don't all add up.
\version 2.14.2
#(set-global-staff-size 18.65)
\header {
title = System in different colors
}
\language deutsch
staffVoice = \new Staff {
\set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t
\time 2/2
\key f \major
\clef treble
\tempo 2=78
\relative c' {
\context Voice {
\override Staff.Clef #'color = #red
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'color = #red
\override Staff.KeySignature #'color = #red
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override DynamicText #'color = #red
\override Tie #'color = #red
\override TextScript #'color = #red
\override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red
\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
\partial 4*3
d' b4^\markup{ \larger {Part 1}}_\f c a
f4
\stopStaff
}
\context Voice = melodyVoi {
\dynamicUp
%\partial 4*3
\startStaff
\revert Staff.Clef #'color
\revert Staff.KeySignature #'color
\revert Staff.BarLine #'color
\revert Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color
\revert Staff.StaffSymbol #'color
\revert NoteHead #'color
\revert Stem #'color
\revert Tie #'color
\revert DynamicText #'color
c4\(_\mf h c\)
\bar ||
f c f c f c f c
f c f c f c f c
f c f c f c f c
f c %% ?
}
\context Voice = melodyRep {
f1 R1
\bar |.
\stopStaff
}
\context Voice = interlude {
\startStaff
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
\override SystemStartBar #'color = #black
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override DynamicText #'color = #red
\override Tie #'color = #red
\override TextScript #'color = #red
\override Accidental #'color = #red
\override Rest #'color = #red
\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
f4^\markup { \larger {Part 3 }} e f g
\override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red %% I moved this
c,4 r h f' g r
\bar ||
}
}
}
\score {
\staffVoice
\layout {}
}
\paper {}
Hope this helps,
David
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Re: more space between systems?
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Re: node head positions
Thanks a lot for everyone's reply! I now have some clues to explore, and understand it seems non-trivial. I will let you know if I made any progress. Best, Herbert On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote: On 12-04-10 03:00 PM, Huang wrote: Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions. Thanks, Herbert In addition to Frescobaldi, definitely my editor of choice on both WIndows and Linux, you could have a look at Rosegarden. It will import the MIDI files which lilypond can produce, and you can then display each track in Rosegarden's notation editor and see the notes highlighted as you play them through a MIDI output. Clearly, tools such as KMidimon and Rosegarden also allow you to watch the MIDI events as you hear them played, but if you are looking to hear the notation, then Rosegarden might well be worth a look. Cheers, Colin the Elder -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) __**_ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/**listinfo/lilypond-userhttps://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
Am 11. April 2012 16:16 schrieb David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
I believe the issue here is that the barline is considered to _begin_ the
new measure rather than end the old one. I can't think of a way around this
except what James suggests. (Then there's the issue of the staff lines
underneath the bar line, to which I don't have a ready answer.)
Hi David,
how about inserting: \override Staff.BarLine #'layer = #10 in the \layout and
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'X-extent = #'(-0 . 0.5) for the
problematic BarLine.
Think it should do the trick:
\version 2.14.2
#(set-global-staff-size 18.65)
\header {
title = System in different colors
}
\language deutsch
staffVoice = \new Staff {
\set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t
\time 2/2
\key f \major
\clef treble
\tempo 2=78
\relative c' {
\context Voice {
\override Staff.Clef #'color = #red
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'color = #red
\override Staff.KeySignature #'color = #red
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override DynamicText #'color = #red
\override Tie #'color = #red
\override TextScript #'color = #red
\override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red
\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
\partial 4*3
d' b4^\markup{ \larger {Part 1}}_\f c a
f4
\stopStaff
}
\context Voice = melodyVoi {
\dynamicUp
%\partial 4*3
\startStaff
\revert Staff.Clef #'color
\revert Staff.KeySignature #'color
\revert Staff.BarLine #'color
\revert Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color
\revert Staff.StaffSymbol #'color
\revert NoteHead #'color
\revert Stem #'color
\revert Tie #'color
\revert DynamicText #'color
c4\(_\mf h c\)
\bar ||
f c f c f c f c
f c f c f c f c
f c f c f c f c
f c %% ?
}
\context Voice = melodyRep {
f1 R1
\bar |.
\stopStaff
}
\context Voice = interlude {
\startStaff
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'X-extent = #'(-0 . 0.5) %% added
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
\override SystemStartBar #'color = #black
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override DynamicText #'color = #red
\override Tie #'color = #red
\override TextScript #'color = #red
\override Accidental #'color = #red
\override Rest #'color = #red
\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
f4^\markup { \larger {Part 3 }} e f g
\override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red %% I moved this
c,4 r h f' g r
\bar ||
}
}
}
\score {
\staffVoice
\layout {
%% added
\context {
\Staff
\override BarLine #'layer = #10
}
}
}
\paper {}
Best,
Harm
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Re: System in different colors
David Nalesnik-2 wrote: Hi, I tried \once \override but it didn't work. It should. You can also move the override of BarLine later as I do below. My problem however is, that the barline between my part 2 and three is already shown in the color of the part 3 where I think it is defined and belongs to part 2. I believe the issue here is that the barline is considered to _begin_ the new measure rather than end the old one. I can't think of a way around this except what James suggests. (Then there's the issue of the staff lines underneath the bar line, to which I don't have a ready answer.) I don't think it's an issue. it's a question of timing - both voices define a bar at the same time (part 3 the initial bar which usually is not displayed at the beginning of a system) and its properties and - as usual - the latest wins. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/System-in-different-colors-tp33660259p33669429.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James: 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Thank you for this pointer. Do you think I should use the v2.15 docs for Lilypond 2.14? The release candidate for Lilypond 2.16 is already announced and so it might be sensible to look forward. Regards, Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James: 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Thank you for this pointer. Do you think I should use the v2.15 docs for Lilypond 2.14? The release candidate for Lilypond 2.16 is already announced and so it might be sensible to look forward. More or less - there may be some differences, some of the examples in the Notation Reference that explicitly show '\relative c' (I think) are different in 2.14 than 2.15 and won't apply for 2.14 - this was because of a syntax change internally, it doesn't affect the code you have in your .ly file (or shouldn't) but might if you copied and pasted the examples in your .ly file. There may have been some more subtle changes but I would suggest that for 98.75354887% of your work, the 2.15 docs should be ok. I use them all the time for my 2.14.2 install and have not had any problems. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James: 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always looking for it. Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make the changes in their docs too. But the translations are handled separately from the English documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not always consistent. Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets 'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
Thanks to everybody who replied. I now learned that you can really change the color of each barline in the score. As I was defining the colors of the following part at the beginning, the definition was taken directly from there on with the consequence of the timing issue eluze described. By moving the \override behind the first notes in the last part (as David suggested), the override only worked for the then following barline which is how I wanted it to be. Thanks again =) Uwe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/System-in-different-colors-tp33660259p33670406.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 10.04.2012 08:37, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
wrote:
It's not a matter of benefits - using stemUp/Down instead of
voiceOne/Two/.. simply produces typographically wrong results:
stemUp/Down only changes the direction of stems, while the direction
of ties, slurs, articulations, dots, positioning of rests etc. should
be changed, too.
Going back to your first example with prall and tie: i didn't notice
before (i didn't compile your example) but the prall is actually in a
wrong place. It should be under the staff, since it's attached to
downstem notes; using \voiceTwo would do this automatically.
I can't contradict this statement. But sometimes I don't find a way to place
the notes without stemUp/Down like in this example:
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4
s2.
\times 4/6 {r16 b cis d[ cis b]} \times 4/6 {r16 cis d e[ d cis]} d a
fis d | % 40
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\clef bass \key g \major \time 3/4
c4 d e |
\change Staff=right g4 a \change Staff=left fis | % 40
}
The left hand plays the two quavers (g and a). The semiquaver rests belong
to the right hand's voice. Therefore I want to quavers shown below the
rests. But the notes in the sextuplet should keep the stems down to avoid a
high skyline.
I played around with voiceOne/Two but found no solution. Probably you have a
one?
Hmm? You can choose whichever voice you want to be first (upper) one, either
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4
R2.
\voiceTwo \times 4/6 {r16 b cis d[ cis b]} \times 4/6 {r16 cis d
e[ d cis]} \oneVoice d a fis d | % 40
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\clef bass \key g \major \time 3/4
c4 d e |
\change Staff=right \voiceOne g4 a \change Staff=left \oneVoice fis | % 40
}
or
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4
R2.
\voiceOne \times 4/6 {r16 b cis d[ cis b]} \times 4/6 {r16 cis d
e[ d cis]} \oneVoice d a fis d | % 40
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\clef bass \key g \major \time 3/4
c4 d e |
\change Staff=right \voiceTwo g4 a \change Staff=left \oneVoice fis | % 40
}
both are semantically correct and will produce reasonable reasults,
even if some notes were dotted, tied or whatever (unlike your code,
which sets only stem direction).
I think that the second one is clearer for the performer, though.
Also, a high skyline almost never is considered a problem, and it
certainly has lower priority than clear voicing.
Bottom line: when dealing with one-staff polyphony, *always* use
\voiceXXX. I can't think of any situation where you should override
stem direction alone.
HTH,
Janek
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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Helge, On 11 April 2012 13:02, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 19:24, schrieb James: Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always looking for it. Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make the changes in their docs too. But the translations are handled separately from the English documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not always consistent. Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets 'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions. The two sentences in German would be something like this: In mehrstimmiger Musik ist es im Allgemeinen besser, die Stimme explizit mit voice auszuwählen anstatt die Ausrichtung einzelner Objekte zu ändern. Für weitere Informationen siehe: Multiple voices. But this may differ in style from the original translators. I am not in the team yet. I don't know if there is a need for additional translation support. Further I don't know how to see this checkins. Does it make sense to learn how to see this and to add annotations/additions? I could give it a try. Or did I missed just one cycle? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/translating-the-documentation.html Start here. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
Hi Harm, how about inserting: \override Staff.BarLine #'layer = #10 in the \layout and \once \override Staff.BarLine #'X-extent = #'(-0 . 0.5) for the problematic BarLine. Think it should do the trick: Aha! Works beautifully. --David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
Hi Eluze, I believe the issue here is that the barline is considered to _begin_ the new measure rather than end the old one. I can't think of a way around this except what James suggests. (Then there's the issue of the staff lines underneath the bar line, to which I don't have a ready answer.) I don't think it's an issue. it's a question of timing - both voices define a bar at the same time (part 3 the initial bar which usually is not displayed at the beginning of a system) and its properties and - as usual - the latest wins. Yes, good point. I didn't realize that \startStaff is actually creating a new staff, in this case joined to the one before on the same line. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
