mysterious error
Using lilypond version 2.14.2 I'm getting the following error. Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T Drul_arrayT::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. ^CAborted (core dumped) It's caused by a piece of code in a big score and the error disappears when I test the offending code separately. (I don't wish to post the code here publicly.) Can someone please help? Many thanks, Peter -- //= - Peter O'Doherty - http://www.peterodoherty.net - m...@peterodoherty.net - https://joindiaspora.com/people/70716 //= ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
(somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Please excuse if I post a linux question here, but I'd prefer not to have to find a dedicated forum and subscribe there first ... I have a project with more than two dozens of lilypond scores. For several reasons I have them in individual files which I can't \include in a master file. I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly files in one run. For this I need the following which I didn't find through Google: How can I sequentially cd to all subdirectories that start with a number? What I want is to do cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number] do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd .. done This _has_ to be absolutely simple, but I didn't manage do find out how so far. Many thanks for any assistance. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
On 8 mai 2012, at 11:31, Urs Liska wrote: Please excuse if I post a linux question here, but I'd prefer not to have to find a dedicated forum and subscribe there first ... I have a project with more than two dozens of lilypond scores. For several reasons I have them in individual files which I can't \include in a master file. I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly files in one run. For this I need the following which I didn't find through Google: How can I sequentially cd to all subdirectories that start with a number? What I want is to do cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like I only speak Python, but I can help you there import subprocess NUMBER_OF_DIRS = 10 for x in range(NUMBER_OF_DIRS) : subprocess.call(lilypond *.ly, shell=True, cwd=01_+(%.2d % x)+_foobar) Note that I haven't tested the above, so I can't guarantee it works and you'd have to adapt it to your individual case. Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
On 2012-05-08 11:31, Urs Liska wrote: cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number] do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd .. done Perhaps like so: for dir in [0-9]*/; do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd - done Jonas Olson ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Am 08.05.2012 11:36, schrieb m...@apollinemike.com: On 8 mai 2012, at 11:31, Urs Liska wrote: Please excuse if I post a linux question here, but I'd prefer not to have to find a dedicated forum and subscribe there first ... I have a project with more than two dozens of lilypond scores. For several reasons I have them in individual files which I can't \include in a master file. I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly files in one run. For this I need the following which I didn't find through Google: How can I sequentially cd to all subdirectories that start with a number? What I want is to do cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like I only speak Python, but I can help you there import subprocess NUMBER_OF_DIRS = 10 for x in range(NUMBER_OF_DIRS) : subprocess.call(lilypond *.ly, shell=True, cwd=01_+(%.2d % x)+_foobar) Note that I haven't tested the above, so I can't guarantee it works and you'd have to adapt it to your individual case. Cheers, MS Well, I don't speak Python, so I'll hope to get another response. But from what I can decipher from your script I might have to express myself clearer: The condition for the inclusion of a directory is _only_ that it starts with a number. The dirs with scores in it are named according to opus number, thus starting with a two digit number, followed by an underscore and another two digit number. But the unique characteristic is that it begins with a number, as all other directories below the project root start with characters. Thanks anyway Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Am 08.05.2012 11:46, schrieb Jonas Olson: On 2012-05-08 11:31, Urs Liska wrote: cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number] do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd .. done Perhaps like so: for dir in [0-9]*/; do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd - done Jonas Olson Thank you very much. That's it! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: mysterious error
Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net writes: Using lilypond version 2.14.2 I'm getting the following error. Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T Drul_arrayT::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. ^CAborted (core dumped) It's caused by a piece of code in a big score and the error disappears when I test the offending code separately. (I don't wish to post the code here publicly.) Can someone please help? Operating system, compiler, compiled from source or installed from binaries? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Please excuse if I post a linux question here, but I'd prefer not to have to find a dedicated forum and subscribe there first ... I have a project with more than two dozens of lilypond scores. For several reasons I have them in individual files which I can't \include in a master file. I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly files in one run. For this I need the following which I didn't find through Google: How can I sequentially cd to all subdirectories that start with a number? What I want is to do cd 01_01_... lilypond *.ly cd .. cd 01_02_... .. in a form like for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number] do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd .. done This _has_ to be absolutely simple, but I didn't manage do find out how so far. for dir in [0-9]*/ do cd $dir lilypond *.ly cd .. done -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: mysterious error
On 05/08/2012 12:08 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Peter O'Dohertym...@peterodoherty.net writes: Using lilypond version 2.14.2 I'm getting the following error. Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T Drul_arrayT::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. ^CAborted (core dumped) It's caused by a piece of code in a big score and the error disappears when I test the offending code separately. (I don't wish to post the code here publicly.) Can someone please help? Operating system, compiler, compiled from source or installed from binaries? Ubuntu 12.04 (the error above is one which has started appearing after upgrading from 11.04, lilypond version has not changed), installed from binary. -- //= - Peter O'Doherty - http://www.peterodoherty.net - m...@peterodoherty.net - https://joindiaspora.com/people/70716 //= ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: mysterious error
Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net writes: On 05/08/2012 12:08 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Peter O'Dohertym...@peterodoherty.net writes: Using lilypond version 2.14.2 I'm getting the following error. Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T Drul_arrayT::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. ^CAborted (core dumped) It's caused by a piece of code in a big score and the error disappears when I test the offending code separately. (I don't wish to post the code here publicly.) Can someone please help? Operating system, compiler, compiled from source or installed from binaries? Ubuntu 12.04 (the error above is one which has started appearing after upgrading from 11.04, lilypond version has not changed), installed from binary. Where did you acquire the binary? Could be an API incompatibility, could be a compiler incompatibility. The 11.10 compiler is known to break LilyPond versions before 2.15.21 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1997. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Hi,
Am 2012-05-08 11:31, schrieb Urs Liska:
I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly
files in one run.
[...]
in a form like
for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number]
do
cd $dir
lilypond *.ly
cd ..
done
This would be a bash solution:
for dir in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -regex ^\.\/[0-9].*$); do
cd {dir}
lilypond *.ly
cd ..
done
--
Best regards Jan
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pngtopnm missing?
I am trying to create a .png file from a LilyPond score. I am running Windows XP. I'm getting an error about pngtopnm. Is it part of LilyPond? Should I have it as part of the install? Below is my run output. Thank you, Chris Crossen C:\ScoreWork\datalilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -dresolution=96 -danti-alias-factor=2 --png test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.14.2 Processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8] Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `test.eps'... Converting to PNG...'pngtopnm' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. GS exited with status: 255 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Temporary staff and VerticalAlignment
Hello people
I've come across a problem in 2.15.24 which I don't /believe/ existed in earlier
2.15 versions (although I haven't checked and I couldn't say when it appeared)
---
\version 2.15.24
\new ChoirStaff \with {
\consists Span_bar_engraver
} {
\new Staff = main {
\relative c'' { c1 c1 c1 }
\\ {
s1
\new Staff \relative c'' { g1 g1 }
}
}
}
---
As this stand this generates a programming error grob does not belong to a
VerticalAlignment. The output corresponds to what I want with the bar lines
spanning both staves.
However, if I comment out the \consists line no error appears. (Of course the
output isn't the same either -- the bar lines are confined to their own staves).
Does anyone have an idea how to get an error free compile and the bar lines
spanning.
Thanks for any help
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Adjustment to tablature output
Is there a recommended way of adjusting TabStaff output so that the note-heads (fret indications) appear _above_ rather than _on_ the lines representing the strings, please? This would make it more closely resemble English renaissance lute tablature, and I have a particular piece of transcription for which that is a desirable goal. I've got as far as guessing that assigning a non-standard procedure value as the tabStaffLineLayoutFunction property of Tab_note_heads_engraver would probably get me towards where I want to be, but alas I'm too stupid and/or too ill-informed to see how to write such a procedure. Thanks in advance for any help or advice. Christopher W. Sweden. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Too complicated and time consuming ...
Hello to all. We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now (copied, pasted, written on, sloppy, taped, marked, etc.) and I have the job of making them all look nice. A friend suggested lilypond. I appreciate all that lilypond can do, but I find that it is taking a painful amount of time The hymns are not all the same ... and some are really complicated [for me anyway]. The easy ones only take me about 20 minutes or so, however the hard ones can take more than 3 hours and some I have just given up on for now. Multiply that by about 450 songs and it is really intimidating to me. So my question ... maybe there is another program that will better suite my needs?? Or maybe there is someone here that is really good at entering a variety of hymns into lilypond and would be willing to help me every now and then??? But I feel I am too needy ... I might need more help than what someone is willing to give freely and I certainly do not have money to pay anyone!!! Of course I am hoping for a somewhat easier program ... clicking and dragging sounds very appealing to me right now! Does any such program exist? Thank you for your time. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Too-complicated-and-time-consuming-...-tp33763582p33763582.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
N.C. symbol in chordNames
Recently, I've noticed that Lilypond has begun automatically listing N.C. every time I have put a rest in for a chord. Often I would use this as a way to get around tricky rhythms, but now I've got N.C.s scattered all over my music. Is there a way to disable this behavior? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/N.C.-symbol-in-chordNames-tp33763589p33763589.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: N.C. symbol in chordNames
Use 'S' instead of a rest. It will leave a blank area. (Sorry -- I have to top post from my phone. ) Peter Wannemacher --Original Message-- From: worshipgeek Sender: lilypond-user-bounces+peter=mainegeek2go@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: N.C. symbol in chordNames Sent: May 8, 2012 14:01 Recently, I've noticed that Lilypond has begun automatically listing N.C. every time I have put a rest in for a chord. Often I would use this as a way to get around tricky rhythms, but now I've got N.C.s scattered all over my music. Is there a way to disable this behavior? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/N.C.-symbol-in-chordNames-tp33763589p33763589.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 07:27:11AM -0700, joannesmith wrote: A friend suggested lilypond. I appreciate all that lilypond can do, but I find that it is taking a painful amount of time You might prefer: http://musescore.org/ and I have heard good reports of Noteworthy: http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/ Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Temporary staff and VerticalAlignment
Am 08.05.2012 12:00, schrieb Roman Stawski: Does anyone have an idea how to get an error free compile and the bar lines spanning. Thanks for any help from 2.15.27 there will be no more error message for that! Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: N.C. symbol in chordNames
* 2012-05-08 20:01 +0200 worshipgeek:
Recently, I've noticed that Lilypond has begun automatically listing
N.C. every time I have put a rest in for a chord. Often I would use
this as a way to get around tricky rhythms, but now I've got N.C.s
scattered all over my music. Is there a way to disable this
behavior?
Using spacer rests instead of rests (as Peter wrote) is probably the
most logical solution when you are writing new scores.
But if you really want to just remove the no-chord symbols altogether
(for example when using old code), put
\context {
\ChordNames
noChordSymbol = ##f
}
inside your layout specification.
R. S.
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Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
Am 08.05.2012 11:46, schrieb Jan Kohnert:
Hi,
Am 2012-05-08 11:31, schrieb Urs Liska:
I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly
files in one run.
[...]
in a form like
for dir in [get me all directories starting with a number]
do
cd $dir
lilypond *.ly
cd ..
done
This would be a bash solution:
for dir in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -regex ^\.\/[0-9].*$); do
cd {dir}
lilypond *.ly
cd ..
done
Wow, that's where I had been looking around without success.
However, Jonas' and David's solution doesn't look as geeky but works
perfectly.
Thanks
Urs
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Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
Am 08.05.2012 16:27, schrieb joannesmith: Hello to all. We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now (copied, pasted, written on, sloppy, taped, marked, etc.) and I have the job of making them all look nice. A friend suggested lilypond. I appreciate all that lilypond can do, but I find that it is taking a painful amount of time The hymns are not all the same ... and some are really complicated [for me anyway]. The easy ones only take me about 20 minutes or so, however the hard ones can take more than 3 hours and some I have just given up on for now. Multiply that by about 450 songs and it is really intimidating to me. So my question ... maybe there is another program that will better suite my needs?? Or maybe there is someone here that is really good at entering a variety of hymns into lilypond and would be willing to help me every now and then??? But I feel I am too needy ... I might need more help than what someone is willing to give freely and I certainly do not have money to pay anyone!!! Of course I am hoping for a somewhat easier program ... clicking and dragging sounds very appealing to me right now! Does any such program exist? Thank you for your time. I really can understand your situation. It hasn't been too long that I felt similarly - although I must admit (and this may be a big 'although') that I was fascinated from the beginning, not only of LilyPond's quality but also by the implications of the text based approach. If I were you I would seriously consider giving LilyPond a try. I know the learning curve is quite steep for a considerable amount of time. But if you are looking at 450 pieces this is a long way on which you should be able to get quite comfortable with LilyPond along the way. Especially notable (IMHO) is LilyPond's power when you are talking about repetitive things like 450 comparable scores. Of course you will get your first scores faster with a graphical program. But with LilyPond you can for example set up a framework where you will only have to enter the plain music for each new hymn. If this framework is well thought out (OK, this isn't really trivial and may seem impossible for you at the moment), then you have a) a consistent layout throughout all your scores and b) can change any aspect of your layout or style at any moment practically without any hassle and have this reflected in all your scores (for example, besides general style decisions you can switch between completely different layouts or part collections (individual parts, conductor's vs. pocket score etc.) simply through commenting out single lines of code). The LilyPond community won't do the work for you and can't relieve you from learning. But if you are willing to learn and ask the right questions you will surely experience good will and considerable expertise on this list (I can really tell you that :-) ) HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (somewhat OT:) lilypond calling bash script questions
* 2012-05-08 11:46 +0200 Jan Kohnert:
Am 2012-05-08 11:31, schrieb Urs Liska:
I would like to write a script that allows me to compile all .ly
files in one run.
[...]
This would be a bash solution:
for dir in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -regex ^\.\/[0-9].*$); do
cd {dir}
lilypond *.ly
cd ..
done
This is guaranteed to fail as soon as any found directory name contains
any sort of whitespace.
[Fun fact: the ONLY characters you can rely on not appearing in a Unix
file name are the forward slash and the null byte.]
It's overkill in this case anyway (see Jonas' or David's replies), but
if you really want to explicitly loop over the output of a find command
call, the proper way to do it is to make it output a list of null-byte
separated strings with the -print0 option and then use an appropriate
shell script construct to loop over this. A solid way to do it in bash
is the following useful idiom:
while IFS= read -r -u3 -d $'\0' FOUND; do
# do what you want with $FOUND
...
done 3 (find [OTHER OPTIONS AS REQUIRED] -print0)
Explanation and alternatives:
http://stackoverflow.com/a/1120952
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/020
R.S.
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Re: Adjustment to tablature output
On 5/8/12 10:48 , Christopher Webster wrote: Is there a recommended way of adjusting TabStaff output so that the note-heads (fret indications) appear _above_ rather than _on_ the lines representing the strings, please? This would make it more closely resemble English renaissance lute tablature, and I have a particular piece of transcription for which that is a desirable goal. I've got as far as guessing that assigning a non-standard procedure value as the tabStaffLineLayoutFunction property of Tab_note_heads_engraver would probably get me towards where I want to be, but alas I'm too stupid and/or too ill-informed to see how to write such a procedure. Shouldn't be that difficult. Check this thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/57580. By adjusting the `TabNoteHead #'extra-offset` you can put the letters above the lines. Unfortunately, they won't align that nicely... but I can't help any further. Best. -- Choan Gálvez Ukecosas. Los ukeleles que nos gustan, también para ti Visítanos: http://ukecosas.es/ Degústanos en Facebook: http://facebook.com/ukecosas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: is shapeSlur broken?
Hi Urs, Hi David, as promised I tried out your updated function(s). Well, you can't call this a complete test suite, but it seems to work perfectly. Many thanks. Attached is a version showing that it also/still works with phrasingSlurs. I find the warnings very useful. I assume it isn't possible to find out and display the 'real' place in the source where the problem comes from? As it is, I only know that there is a changed curve that doesn't work anymore, but don't know where it is (which can of course be difficult to pin down in larger pieces. If it isn't possible to identify the calling line in the source code, would it be possible to mark the respective curve red? This way one could easily spot the problematic grob. You can do either, or both. The attached file will display a warning which includes the input location and (if you uncomment the relevant lines in shape-curve) print the curves in red. That a wrong number of pairs gives strange results is OK. That way one is gently pointed towards malformed input ;-) +1 So it works like a charm now :-) If you could still add the colour or line number feature - or tell me that you won't or can't do it - I could make a useable and distributably version of the file - maybe as a package together with displayControlPoints (see other mail in the other thread). Sure, please do! In the meantime, I'll keep tinkering with this and I'll send along any improvements. Thank you very much for your comments! Best, David shaping-curves02.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
joannesmith joannesmith6...@gmail.com writes: We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now [...] Of course I am hoping for a somewhat easier program ... clicking and dragging sounds very appealing to me right now! Does any such program exist? Does not sound like a good idea to me. Clicking and dragging is a reasonably efficient workflow for graphical arrangement, the kind of thing you do with scissors and glue. For writing, the orderly arrangement of minuscule elements, a keyboard beats it hollow in the hands of an experienced writer. If you were talking about 10 hymns, the savings in learning effort might make up for that. But not 450. Try using Frescobaldi URL:http://www.frescobaldi.org for input: it might make you get into an efficient entry routine somewhat faster. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
- Original Message - From: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:12:07 AM Subject: Re: Too complicated and time consuming ... Am 08.05.2012 16:27, schrieb joannesmith: Hello to all. We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now (copied, pasted, written on, sloppy, taped, marked, etc.) and I have the job of making them all look nice. A friend suggested lilypond. I appreciate all that lilypond can do, but I find that it is taking a painful amount of time The hymns are not all the same ... and some are really complicated [for me anyway]. The easy ones only take me about 20 minutes or so, however the hard ones can take more than 3 hours and some I have just given up on for now. Multiply that by about 450 songs and it is really intimidating to me. So my question ... maybe there is another program that will better suite my needs?? Or maybe there is someone here that is really good at entering a variety of hymns into lilypond and would be willing to help me every now and then??? But I feel I am too needy ... I might need more help than what someone is willing to give freely and I certainly do not have money to pay anyone!!! Of course I am hoping for a somewhat easier program ... clicking and dragging sounds very appealing to me right now! Does any such program exist? Thank you for your time. I really can understand your situation. It hasn't been too long that I felt similarly - although I must admit (and this may be a big 'although') that I was fascinated from the beginning, not only of LilyPond's quality but also by the implications of the text based approach. If I were you I would seriously consider giving LilyPond a try. I know the learning curve is quite steep for a considerable amount of time. But if you are looking at 450 pieces this is a long way on which you should be able to get quite comfortable with LilyPond along the way. Especially notable (IMHO) is LilyPond's power when you are talking about repetitive things like 450 comparable scores. Of course you will get your first scores faster with a graphical program. But with LilyPond you can for example set up a framework where you will only have to enter the plain music for each new hymn. If this framework is well thought out (OK, this isn't really trivial and may seem impossible for you at the moment), then you have a) a consistent layout throughout all your scores and b) can change any aspect of your layout or style at any moment practically without any hassle and have this reflected in all your scores (for example, besides general style decisions you can switch between completely different layouts or part collections (individual parts, conductor's vs. pocket score etc.) simply through commenting out single lines of code). The LilyPond community won't do the work for you and can't relieve you from learning. But if you are willing to learn and ask the right questions you will surely experience good will and considerable expertise on this list (I can really tell you that :-) ) HTH Urs I'd like to echo what Urs said about this. I would, however, describe the learning curve as 'long' rather than 'steep.' Having said that, I would suggest that having a project like yours is a good way to get comfortable with LilyPond. With such a large number of hymns to set you'll have an opportunity to 'practice' the rudiments of LilyPond and it will become quite easy in a fairly short time. Ultimately you will likely find that entering music as a stream of text is actually much quicker dragging/clicking. I was a fairly proficient Finale user and have completely abandoned commercial music printing software. I have also never really been too interested in the graphical front ends for LilyPond as the plain text entry is so fast. -David As Urs said, you will figure out how to recycle blocks of code for scores reducing your workload considerably. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: is shapeSlur broken?
Hi David, thanks for the new 'delivery'. I copied it to my project folder, but it's too late now here to investigate it (has to wait for tomorrow). I'm really looking forward to making all this available in a structured way (although it will surely take some time). Experience working with your function and the new options to visualize the control-points is so beautiful and such a tremenduous improvement in handling LilyPond ... Best Urs Am 09.05.2012 01:49, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Urs, Hi David, as promised I tried out your updated function(s). Well, you can't call this a complete test suite, but it seems to work perfectly. Many thanks. Attached is a version showing that it also/still works with phrasingSlurs. I find the warnings very useful. I assume it isn't possible to find out and display the 'real' place in the source where the problem comes from? As it is, I only know that there is a changed curve that doesn't work anymore, but don't know where it is (which can of course be difficult to pin down in larger pieces. If it isn't possible to identify the calling line in the source code, would it be possible to mark the respective curve red? This way one could easily spot the problematic grob. You can do either, or both. The attached file will display a warning which includes the input location and (if you uncomment the relevant lines in shape-curve) print the curves in red. That a wrong number of pairs gives strange results is OK. That way one is gently pointed towards malformed input ;-) +1 So it works like a charm now :-) If you could still add the colour or line number feature - or tell me that you won't or can't do it - I could make a useable and distributably version of the file - maybe as a package together with displayControlPoints (see other mail in the other thread). Sure, please do! In the meantime, I'll keep tinkering with this and I'll send along any improvements. Thank you very much for your comments! Best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Temporary staff and VerticalAlignment
Eluze eluzew at gmail.com writes: Am 08.05.2012 12:00, schrieb Roman Stawski: Does anyone have an idea how to get an error free compile and the bar lines spanning. from 2.15.27 there will be no more error message for that! Thank you Eluze. I wasn't sure whether there wasn't an actual error somewhere that was getting ready to explode somewhere down the line. Apparently not. Keep up the good work. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
On 12-05-08 05:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote: joannesmithjoannesmith6...@gmail.com writes: We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now [...] Of course I am hoping for a somewhat easier program ... clicking and dragging sounds very appealing to me right now! Does any such program exist? Does not sound like a good idea to me. Clicking and dragging is a reasonably efficient workflow for graphical arrangement, the kind of thing you do with scissors and glue. For writing, the orderly arrangement of minuscule elements, a keyboard beats it hollow in the hands of an experienced writer. If you were talking about 10 hymns, the savings in learning effort might make up for that. But not 450. Try using FrescobaldiURL:http://www.frescobaldi.org for input: it might make you get into an efficient entry routine somewhat faster. Another point in favour of Frescobaldi is the ability to define your own templates, coupled with the score creation wizard. When you have a hymn set the way you like it, all voicings and spacing to your taste, save the result as a template. When starting the next, use the File | New | From template . . . and you're away. Here is a template I modified, and I apologise to the author of the rehearsalMidi function, as I cannot remember where I found it. The thing I found quite wonderful about LIlypond is shown in the template: with minor code changes, you can produce all sorts of output: piano reduction, individual scores, rehearsal MIDIs by voice (run them through timidity and LAME to get MP3s for the car CD player), a master MIDI of all voices . . . I also dump the MIDI tracks onto my electronic piano, for rehearsals when we need to slow the tempo or run individual voices. It may be that other, proprietary programs can approach the above, but the combination of Lilypond and Frescobaldi is wonderful. My only wish, and this comes back to the OP's problem, is that I can't yet get much of a handle on Audiveris. Ah well, until then, getting a head start with the template and blasting the notes in by hand works remarkably well for me! Cheers, Colin Why yes, I *do* rave about lilypond! Campbell -- My two favorite things in life are libraries and bicycles. They both move people forward without wasting anything. The perfect day: riding a bike to the library. - Peter Golkin, museum spokesman (1966- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
On 12-05-08 08:29 PM, Colin Campbell wrote:
snippage
Here is a template I modified, and I apologise to the author of the
rehearsalMidi function, as I cannot remember where I found it.
Discussion of the template is *so* much easier when it is actually
present in the reply!
\version 2.15.34
\language english
\header {
title = Generic Gospel Song
instrument = Male Quartet
composer = Traditional
arranger = The Loan
copyright =\markup { \char ##x00A9 2012 The Composer }
tagline = Engraved with Lilypond
}
\paper {
#(set-paper-size letter)
}
global = {
\key af \major
\time 2/2
\tempo 2=96
}
tenor = \relative c' {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
lead = \relative c' {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
bari = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
bass = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
verse = \lyricmode {
% Lyrics follow here.
}
rehearsalMidi = #
(define-music-function
(parser location name midiInstrument lyrics) (string? string? ly:music?)
#{
\unfoldRepeats
\new Staff = tenor \new Voice = tenor { s1*0\f \tenor }
\new Staff = lead \new Voice = lead { s1*0\f \lead }
\new Staff = bari \new Voice = bari { s1*0\f \bari }
\new Staff = bass \new Voice = bass { s1*0\f \bass }
\context Staff = $name {
\set Score.midiMinimumVolume = #0.5
\set Score.midiMaximumVolume = #0.5
\set Score.tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 96 2)
\set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.8
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #1.0
\set Staff.midiInstrument = $midiInstrument
}
\new Lyrics \with {
alignBelowContext = $name
} \lyricsto $name $lyrics
#})
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = choir aahs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { Tenor Lead }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { Tenor Lead }
}
\clef treble_8
\new Voice = tenor { \voiceOne \tenor }
\new Voice = lead { \voiceTwo \lead }
\new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
} \lyricsto tenor \verse
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = choir aahs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { Bari Bass }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { Bari Bass }
}
\clef bass
\new Voice = bari { \voiceOne \bari }
\new Voice = bass { \voiceTwo \bass }
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
% Rehearsal MIDI files:
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix tenor
\score {
\rehearsalMidi tenor tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix lead
\score {
\rehearsalMidi lead tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix bari
\score {
\rehearsalMidi bari tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix bass
\score {
\rehearsalMidi bass tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
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Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
On 5/8/12 8:27 AM, joannesmith joannesmith6...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all. We are in the process of making our own hymn books (we use shape notes). We have about 450 hymns that are in paper format right now (copied, pasted, written on, sloppy, taped, marked, etc.) and I have the job of making them all look nice. A friend suggested lilypond. I appreciate all that lilypond can do, but I find that it is taking a painful amount of time The hymns are not all the same ... and some are really complicated [for me anyway]. The easy ones only take me about 20 minutes or so, however the hard ones can take more than 3 hours and some I have just given up on for now. Multiply that by about 450 songs and it is really intimidating to me. Please check out the fasoli group. They have lots of experience in shape notes with lilypond. http://www.hosorembo.com/Lily/Lilindex.html http://groups.google.com/group/fasoli?hl=enpli=1 HTH, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Too complicated and time consuming ...
And you can/should of course put most of such a template in an include file.
So you
A) don't duplicate code unnecessarily
B) can change the setting and have this be reflected through all your scores and
C) have nice small files for the actual piece.
Best
Urs
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Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca schrieb:
On 12-05-08 08:29 PM, Colin Campbell wrote:
snippage
Here is a template I modified, and I apologise to the author of the
rehearsalMidi function, as I cannot remember where I found it.
Discussion of the template is *so* much easier when it is actually present in
the reply!
\version 2.15.34
\language english
\header {
title = Generic Gospel Song
instrument = Male Quartet
composer = Traditional
arranger = The Loan
copyright =\markup { \char ##x00A9 2012 The Composer }
tagline = Engraved with Lilypond
}
\paper {
#(set-paper-size letter)
}
global = {
\key af \major
\time 2/2
\tempo 2=96
}
tenor = \relative c' {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
lead = \relative c' {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
bari = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
bass = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
c
}
verse = \lyricmode {
% Lyrics follow here.
}
rehearsalMidi = #
(define-music-function
(parser location name midiInstrument lyrics) (string? string? ly:music?)
#{
\unfoldRepeats
\new Staff = tenor \new Voice = tenor { s1*0\f \tenor }
\new Staff = lead \new Voice = lead { s1*0\f \lead }
\new Staff = bari \new Voice = bari { s1*0\f \bari }
\new Staff = bass \new Voice = bass { s1*0\f \bass }
\context Staff = $name {
\set Score.midiMinimumVolume = #0.5
\set Score.midiMaximumVolume = #0.5
\set Score.tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 96 2)
\set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.8
\set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #1.0
\set Staff.midiInstrument = $midiInstrument
}
\new Lyrics \with {
alignBelowContext = $name
} \lyricsto $name $lyrics
#})
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = choir aahs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { Tenor Lead }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { Tenor Lead }
}
\clef treble_8
\new Voice = tenor { \voiceOne \tenor }
\new Voice = lead { \voiceTwo \lead }
\new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
} \lyricsto tenor \verse
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = choir aahs
instrumentName = \markup \center-column { Bari Bass }
shortInstrumentName = \markup \center-column { Bari Bass }
}
\clef bass
\new Voice = bari { \voiceOne \bari }
\new Voice = bass { \voiceTwo \bass }
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
% Rehearsal MIDI files:
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix tenor
\score {
\rehearsalMidi tenor tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix lead
\score {
\rehearsalMidi lead tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix bari
\score {
\rehearsalMidi bari tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
\book {
\bookOutputSuffix bass
\score {
\rehearsalMidi bass tenor sax \verse
\midi { }
}
}
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