Re: Large file

2012-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com writes:

 Greetings -


 I'm using LilyPond Book to print out a large set of short (mostly 16
 bar) contra dance and Celtic tunes. I'm working on an older Dell
 laptop, using LY 14.2 under Linux / Ubuntu. I show 494.8 MiB of
 memory, but I think I may have some additional space set aside as
 virtual memory (I'm not sure about that). I have 510 individual files,
 one for each score, which are \includeed in my master file, which
 has a separate score entry for each.

 If I try to run more than twenty or thirty scores, things get badly
 bogged down. If I have all my page breaks set up the way I want them,
 and I try to run the whole file (all 510 scores), am I likely to lock
 up the memory, or (if I'm patient), will the computer likely produce
 the .ly and .pdf files in 2 or 3 hours?

 I appreciate your time and attention,

Lilypond-book is running LilyPond with large command lines, on a lot of
files at once.  Without memory leaks, this should not be much of a
problem.  However, your setup very much sounds as if you are _not_ doing
this as a proper LilyPond-book job, but rather make one large LilyPond
file.  This kind of setup will require considerable resources.  Things
get worse if LilyPond can't flush out pages in between because of global
page break optimization.

So you should try to change your setup in a manner where you have one
LilyPond-book fragment for each score.  This may mean that every such
fragment does an \include of the settings now in the LilyPond master
file rather than the LilyPond master file including every LilyPond
source.  On this kind of setup, the performance loss due to memory
starvation is likely quite larger than the loss due to reloading the
master file and stuff for every snippet.

Current development versions are quite more efficient in such multifile
situations (talk about shaving 30% off execution time for small files),
but again, you will need to separate this into separate LilyPond-book
fragments rather than one large chunk containing everything.

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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear

2012-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes:

 Philip Thomas wrote:

 Dear fellow-users,

 I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
 the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
 parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
 piece:

 Phil Holmes wrote:

You may like to check and eventually test David's work on
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2598

--
Phil Holmes

 Thanks, developers, for addressing the matter -- and so quickly, at that.
 But the likes of me test it? Would that involve downloading a patch?
 Pretty scary. Some day maybe I'll get to that stage, but not just yet. For
 the moment I'm content to luxuriate in a state of grateful and lazy trust,
 and await v.2.16. :)

2.15.41, once released, should not require more work installing and
testing than 2.16.

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Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread Ramana Kumar
OK, consider this example slightly modified from the Notation Manual:

fluteNotes = \relative c'' {
  r2. c4 | d8 c d e fis,2 | g'2 d |
}

oboeNotes = \relative c'' {
  r1
  \cueDuring #flute #UP { s1 }
  g2 c,
}

\addQuote flute { \fluteNotes }

\new Staff { \oboeNotes }

I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I want
the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0 instead of
#UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.

The reason why it makes sense to format the cue notes with a neutral
direction is that the other part is made entirely of spacer rests (s1) so
really only one part is being printed.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:45 PM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:



 Ramana Kumar-2 wrote:
 
  Hi LilyPond
 
  Is it possible to do something like \cueDuring without specifying a
  direction?
 
  I know there is a polyphonic situation, but sometimes the thing happening
  during the cue is entirely spacer rests.
  In that case it would be nice to format the cue with a neutral direction.
 
  I tried giving the direction #0 but that seems to make \cueDuringWithClef
  ignore the clef.
  Fixing this would probably be the best option from a user's perspective.
 
  I don't know how to set up a \cueVoice manually in such a way that it
  quotes only the relevant extract from a quote, i.e. those during my
  spacer rests.
 
 can you please give some code as example !? - I'm not sure to understand
 your request correctly.

 thanks
 Eluze
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A couple house-style adaptment questions

2012-06-16 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
Hi All,
I have to prepare a book to follow the house style of my publisher,
and I'm struggling a bit with the following things:

1) Aligned BassFigures ABOVE the staff.
The publisher wants them all above. I include the figures to my Staff
context and set \bassFigureStaffAlignmentUp: it works, but each number
gets it's vertical position from the note it hase above, with the
result that the figures are not uniformly aligned. Is there a way to
aligne them to the same baseline? It would be the same as when you put
them in the FiguredBass context under the staff (tried a FiguredBass
context but it seems it can be placed only under the staff and not
above).

2) Figured bass font.
The publisher asked me to use the same font they use for all the texts
for the figured bass (a variation of Garamond). I did something like
\override BassFigure #'font-name = #Garamond Premier Pro
and it works well, except that all the alterations are too big for the
tiny numbers in Garamond. Is there a way to scale just the alteration
glyphs?

3) Bracketed cautionary accidentals.
The house style calls for brackets and not parenthesis. Is there a way
to change this? I already made my bracket stencil for ParenthesesItem,
but I cannot find a way to change this in AccidentalCautionary.

Thanks!
Rodolfo

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi

2012-06-16 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
Hi Nelson,
this is an issue with QT 4.8 in macports, that seems not to behave
well with Frescobaldi. I prepared a version with the old 4.7, but with
this version the pdf preview is broken. Unfortunately I did not have
any further time to see this issues, I hope to find some this summer.
If you want I can send you the script to generate the app bundle (BTH
Wilbert, did I send it to you too?)
Ciao
Rodolfo

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Nelson Altimari nel...@altimari.com.br wrote:
 I downloaded Rodolfo's zip (from the previous posts) and moved
 frescobaldi.app inside Applications. It opens, but it seems it can't get to
 Lilypond.

 I'm on Lion 10.7.3, and I'm getting Python errors, mostly PyVariant. My iMac
 was bought recently, so it's mostly empty - I mean practically no software
 has been installed.

 Do I need to install any other libraries?
 Exactly how do I configure Frescobaldi's Preferences (Lilypond location,
 includes, paths, etc)?

 Installation instructions for MacOSX are missing on Frescobaldi's page,
 unfortunely.

 If you provide me the info to get it working on my system, I can update the
 wiki with the information.

 []s
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Re: Microtones Approx 1/16

2012-06-16 Thread Francisco Vila
El 16/06/2012 04:25, Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com escribió:

 Dear list,

 How can I use and hear(midi) 1/16 microtones?

 I can write and hear {c cih cisih...} But I don't know more...

 Thanks,
 Jong


I'd use Csound, not MIDI.
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Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
Ramana Kumar ram...@member.fsf.org writes:

 OK, consider this example slightly modified from the Notation Manual:

 fluteNotes = \relative c'' {
   r2. c4 | d8 c d e fis,2 | g'2 d |
 }

 oboeNotes = \relative c'' {
   r1
   \cueDuring #flute #UP { s1 }
   g2 c,
 }

 \addQuote flute { \fluteNotes }

 \new Staff { \oboeNotes }

 I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I
 want the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0
 instead of #UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.

#CENTER is more mnemonic.

Status: New
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Enhancement Patch-new

New issue 2606 by d...@gnu.org: Patch: Let cue
commands deal consistently with #CENTER direction.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2606

Let cue commands deal consistently with #CENTER direction.

http://codereview.appspot.com/6304090


If it is feasible for you, you could try out this patch and report your
experience back.

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centering text

2012-06-16 Thread simon blackmore

Hi there,

This is my first message so apologies if its a bit simple.

I am just trying to put some centered text on each bar of music. One  
word per a bar.
The code below puts the words at the end, so I guess its aligning to  
the note rather than the bar.


I am generating this in SuperCollider so ideally I would like a clean  
way of having
bars written and centered text to go with them. I am not fussy how its  
implemented as long
as its concise. I imagine there is someway to style the text so that I  
only need to say centered once

but as I mentioned I am just working my way through this.

Any ideas on a good approach ?

Cheers

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centering text

2012-06-16 Thread simon blackmore

Hi there,

This is my first message so apologies if its a bit simple.

I am just trying to put some centered text on each bar of music. One  
word per a bar.
The code below puts the words at the end, so I guess its aligning to  
the note rather than the bar.


I am generating this in SuperCollider so ideally I would like a clean  
way of having
bars written and centered text to go with them. I am not fussy how its  
implemented as long
as its concise. I imagine there is someway to style the text so that I  
only need to say centered once

but as I mentioned I am just working my way through this.

Any ideas on a good approach ?

Many thanks

Simon








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Re: Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread Noeck
Hi,

wouldn’t be #NEUTRAL be more consistent with other Lilypond syntax?
(I don’t know the Lilypond internals well enough, but in the user
interface there is e.g. \stemNeutral and so on.)

Cheers,
Joram


Am 16.06.2012 14:01, schrieb David Kastrup:

 I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I
 want the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0
 instead of #UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.

 #CENTER is more mnemonic.

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centering text

2012-06-16 Thread simon blackmore

Hi there,

This is my first message so apologies if its a bit simple.

I am just trying to put some centered text on each bar of music. One  
word per a bar.
The code below puts the words at the end, so I guess its aligning to  
the note rather than the bar.


I am generating this in SuperCollider so ideally I would like a clean  
way of having
bars written and centered text to go with them. I am not fussy how its  
implemented as long
as its concise. I imagine there is someway to style the text so that I  
only need to say centered once

but as I mentioned I am just working my way through this.

Any ideas on a good approach ?

Many thanks

Simon



\header{
  title = hello world
}


  \new RhythmicStaff {
\new Voice = myRhythm {

  \time 4/4

r8 r8 r8 c8  r8 c8 c8 r8 -\markup  {  \center-align bar1 }
c8 r8 c8 r8 r8 c8 c8 r8 -\markup { \center-align { bar2 } }
}





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Re: Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread Ramana Kumar
I agree that #NEUTRAL would be a better mnemonic.
However, I was under the impression that David was just reusing #CENTER
which already exists...

So, #CENTER should probably be renamed to #NEUTRAL everywhere. (Or both
should exist as aliases for #0).

By the way, David, thanks a lot for your patch! I haven't tried it yet but
a glance at the diff looks excellent.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi,

 wouldn’t be #NEUTRAL be more consistent with other Lilypond syntax?
 (I don’t know the Lilypond internals well enough, but in the user
 interface there is e.g. \stemNeutral and so on.)

 Cheers,
 Joram


 Am 16.06.2012 14:01, schrieb David Kastrup:

  I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I
  want the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0
  instead of #UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.
 
  #CENTER is more mnemonic.

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Re: centering text

2012-06-16 Thread Ramana Kumar
One way would be to align the text to a note that's in the center of the
bar. (That note could be invisible.)
E.g.
 {r8 r8 r8 r8 c8 r8 c8 c8} {s2 s2-\markup{\center-align bar3}} 


On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:01 AM, simon blackmore
l...@simonblackmore.netwrote:

 Hi there,

 This is my first message so apologies if its a bit simple.

 I am just trying to put some centered text on each bar of music. One word
 per a bar.
 The code below puts the words at the end, so I guess its aligning to the
 note rather than the bar.

 I am generating this in SuperCollider so ideally I would like a clean way
 of having
 bars written and centered text to go with them. I am not fussy how its
 implemented as long
 as its concise. I imagine there is someway to style the text so that I
 only need to say centered once
 but as I mentioned I am just working my way through this.

 Any ideas on a good approach ?

 Many thanks

 Simon



 \header{
  title = hello world
 }


  \new RhythmicStaff {
\new Voice = myRhythm {

  \time 4/4

r8 r8 r8 c8  r8 c8 c8 r8 -\markup  {  \center-align bar1 }
c8 r8 c8 r8 r8 c8 c8 r8 -\markup { \center-align { bar2 } }

}





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Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:

 Am 16.06.2012 14:01, schrieb:

 I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I
 want the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0
 instead of #UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.

 #CENTER is more mnemonic.

 wouldn’t be #NEUTRAL be more consistent with other Lilypond syntax?
 (I don’t know the Lilypond internals well enough, but in the user
 interface there is e.g. \stemNeutral and so on.)

It is not even neutral but no-change.  NEUTRAL is not defined in Scheme.
If you take a look at scm/lily-library.scm, CENTER is closest in
meaning, though you can actually use anything rather than 0 with the
proposed code.  The user interface is actually worth rethinking anyway.

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Re: centering text

2012-06-16 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Simon,

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Ramana Kumar ram...@member.fsf.orgwrote:

 One way would be to align the text to a note that's in the center of the
 bar. (That note could be invisible.)
 E.g.
  {r8 r8 r8 r8 c8 r8 c8 c8} {s2 s2-\markup{\center-align bar3}} 


Another way to do this is to attach the text to a hidden full-bar rest.
 Something like this:

 \header {
 title = hello world
}

 \new RhythmicStaff {
   \new Voice = myRhythm 
   {
 \time 4/4
 r8 r8 r8 c8 r8 c8 c8 r8
 c8 r8 c8 r8 r8 c8 c8 r8
   }
   {
 \override MultiMeasureRest #'transparent = ##t
 R1-\markup { \center-align bar1 }
 R-\markup { \center-align bar2 }
   }
   
 }

HTH,
David
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Re: neutral direction cues

2012-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:

 Am 16.06.2012 14:01, schrieb:

 I'm interested in changing the #UP to a neutral direction because I
 want the stems in the cue to be neutral direction. But If I use #0
 instead of #UP, the notes are not formatted as cue notes at all.

 #CENTER is more mnemonic.

 wouldn’t be #NEUTRAL be more consistent with other Lilypond syntax?
 (I don’t know the Lilypond internals well enough, but in the user
 interface there is e.g. \stemNeutral and so on.)

 It is not even neutral but no-change.  NEUTRAL is not defined in Scheme.
 If you take a look at scm/lily-library.scm, CENTER is closest in
 meaning, though you can actually use anything rather than 0

I mean anything rather than 1 or -1.

 with the proposed code.  The user interface is actually worth
 rethinking anyway.

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Re: centering text

2012-06-16 Thread -Eluze


Simon Blackmore-2 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 This is my first message so apologies if its a bit simple.
 
no problem - and we like tiny code extracts to illustrate the problem - as
you did here!


 I am just trying to put some centered text on each bar of music. One  
 word per a bar.
 The code below puts the words at the end, so I guess its aligning to  
 the note rather than the bar.
 
 

maybe you mean \RehearsalMark!?

s.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation-big-page#rehearsal-marks
and links from there for more details!

Eluze


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Re: Microtones Approx 1/16

2012-06-16 Thread Keith OHara
Jonghyun Kim agitato816 at gmail.com writes:

 
 How can I use and hear(midi) 1/16 microtones?
 
 I can write and hear {c cih cisih...} But I don't know more...
 

LilyPond also comes with a definition for the 1/9 tone Makam scale
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/turkish-classical-music
but for other tuning systems you might need to define your own scale
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=microtonal


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Long melisma

2012-06-16 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
Hey all,

I have a long melisma that lasts around 200-ish notes in a score I'm working on 
- is there any way to get the lyric extender to last for a long duration 
without inundating the score with a deluge of underscores?

Cheers,
MS
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Re: Long melisma

2012-06-16 Thread Colin Campbell

On 12-06-16 01:35 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote:

Hey all,

I have a long melisma that lasts around 200-ish notes in a score I'm working on 
- is there any way to get the lyric extender to last for a long duration 
without inundating the score with a deluge of underscores?

Cheers,
MS
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large would be more interesting! Either that or finding eyes good enough 
to count the flags on a string of 128th notes, as they go flashing by.



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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: Help needed creating a Mac OS X installer for Frescobaldi

2012-06-16 Thread Nelson Altimari
On Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:49:01 AM UTC-3, Rodolfo Zitellini wrote:

 If you want I can send you the script to generate the app bundle


Yes, please!

Do you think downloading Qt for Mac (and installing manually) would solve 
the issues?

Or maybe building it from scratch using brewhttp://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/, 
instead of macports?

(BTW, it would be nice to provide Frescobaldi through brew - it's more 
friendly than Macports, from what I've seen).
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Re: Long melisma

2012-06-16 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Mike,

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote:

 On 12-06-16 01:35 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 I have a long melisma that lasts around 200-ish notes in a score I'm
 working on - is there any way to get the lyric extender to last for a long
 duration without inundating the score with a deluge of underscores?


Is something like this what you had in mind?

\version 2.15.40

\score {
  \new Staff 
\new Voice = melisma {
  e'2 d'
  c'4 \melisma d' e' f'
  \repeat unfold 10 {
  c' d' e' f'
  }
  g'1
  \melismaEnd
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melisma {
  me- lis- ma! __
}
  
}

Best,
David
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Re: Trills With Accidentals

2012-06-16 Thread P Spalding

Arnold,  In Linux Ubuntu, the Lilypond version I had was 2.12.   I just
upgraded to 2.14.2 hoping these commands you sent me would work.   Nope!  I
see the include file you sent was created in version 2.15.39.   

Regards,
RDL


ArnoldTheresius wrote:
 
 
 P Spalding wrote:
 
 
 That would be excellent, Arnold.   I've been inking in the accidental in
 past.
 
 
 Here you are!
 
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p33991423/pitchedArticulations.ly
 pitchedArticulations.ly  is my include file. Created on Win7 - I hope the
 CR/NL will not harm on UNIX.
 
 
 A 'short' description is in this PDF document
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p33991423/pitchedArticulationsTest.pdf
 pitchedArticulationsTest.pdf 
 which is created from this LY file
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p33991423/pitchedArticulationsTest.ly
 pitchedArticulationsTest.ly .
 In this LY file also my huge test suite is included, but at the moment
 it's commented out to get only this two page instruction.
 Allthough I compiled this example with 2.15.39, I allready tested my
 include file with 2.12.3 and 2.14.2. A few position differences are
 adjusted by querying the lilypond version in the scheme code.
 
 I hope it's a gem for you. According to the file size it should be a huge
 gem.
 
 Enjoy it, Arnold
 P.S. I want to upload it to the LSR when 2.16 is out and the LSR is
 migrated to 2.16.
 

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Re: Long melisma

2012-06-16 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 16 juin 2012, at 22:28, David Nalesnik wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote:
 On 12-06-16 01:35 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I have a long melisma that lasts around 200-ish notes in a score I'm working 
 on - is there any way to get the lyric extender to last for a long duration 
 without inundating the score with a deluge of underscores?
 
 Is something like this what you had in mind?
 
 \version 2.15.40
 
 \score {
   \new Staff 
 \new Voice = melisma {
   e'2 d'
   c'4 \melisma d' e' f'
   \repeat unfold 10 {
   c' d' e' f'
   }
   g'1
   \melismaEnd
 }
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto melisma {
   me- lis- ma! __
 }
   
 }
 
 Best,
 David

Perfect - thanks!

Cheers,
MS

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