Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything
Am 10.11.2012 14:49, schrieb David Kastrup: [...] -i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order, this is bound to come rather early in a directory listing, so if you have files a, b, c in the directory, rm * .o expands into rm -i a b c .o It does not help much if you have a sort order where - gets ignored, obviously. Hey, that's clever! Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: quoteDuring for lyrics?
Hello Mogens,
AFAIK quoted lyrics has to be done manually right now.
In those cases, I usually create a CueVoice=mycue and quote the needed
music in there. Then I can create Lyrics (with a smaller font) that is
assigned to that voice with \lyricsto mycue.
Those cases are not too often, so I can live with rewriting the needed
quoted lyrics.
The problem is, that you can get the corresponding notes from the lyrics
quite easy, but I don't know of a way in the other direction: getting
corresponding syllables from a voice-context.
Well, one could probably search a Lyrics context for syllables assigned
to notes to be quoted ...
I am sorry to say, that I think, you have to copyandpaste the needed
lyrics right now.
Cheers, Jan-Peter
On 09.11.2012 21:03, Mogens Lemvig Hansen wrote:
Hi,
Is there a mechanism for lyrics similar to \quoteDuring? I naively tried
\version 2.16.0
soprano = \relative c'' { a2 b4 c d e f g }
alto= \relative c' { e4 f2 g4 a b c d }
sopranoText = \lyricmode { one two three four five six seven eight }
altoText= \lyricmode { en to tre fire fem seks syv otte }
\addQuote qsoprano { \soprano }
\addQuote qalto { \alto }
mixture = {
\quoteDuring qsoprano { s1 }
\quoteDuring qalto{ s1 }
}
\addQuote tsoprano { \sopranoText }
\addQuote talto { \altoText }
mixText = {
\quoteDuring tsoprano { s1 }
\quoteDuring talto{ s1 }
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice = soprano { \soprano }
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto soprano { \sopranoText }
\new Staff {
\new Voice = alto { \alto }
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto alto { \altoText }
\new Staff {
\new Voice = mix { \mixture }
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mix { \mixText }
}
If the magic had gone my way, the bottom lyrics had read
one two three fire fem seks syv
I attach a scan of what I got instead.
My motivation is that I have a piece for six (human) voices all typed
and ready but now need to rearrange it for five voices. I have
successfully made extensive use of \quoteDuring for the notes. The
lyrics consist of fa -- la -- lah's and ting -- e -- lings rather than
real words, so they need to follow the part they came from, so a
\quoteDuring mechanism would save me a lot of error prone copy-and-paste.
Regards,
Mogens
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Re: Custom key signature stencils, differentiating major and minor keys
Hi, Paul: Thank you for the custom key signature. I have been dreaming this for sometime, but hesitate to ask lilypond user community. I have been using circle of fifths to identify the key signature. You mention this custom key signature can be adapted to print above the clef sign. I am not a programmer, so not able to change (adapt). Questions: 1. Print the custom key signature above the clef sign 2. Is it possible to retain the traditional key signature then print the custom key signature above 3. Can this custom key signature use with \include english.ly or \language english? 4. Can ais (as in english) print as A# Major f# Minor; same for flat as well? Thank you such useful custom key signature. I definitely will use it. Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unwanted barnumber
While incorporating this code in another score I came across a layouting
problem: if the tempo name is sufficiently long, then the first measure
number will be rendered _above_ the tempo indicator.
This problem only occurs when \omitParenthesizedBarNumbers is invoked in the
layout block.
Probably it's a problem of prioritizing markup scripts, but I have no clue
yet on how to fix this.
Here's a snippet illustrating this issue:
%%% BEGIN snippet
\version 2.16.0
omitParenthesizedBarNumbers =
\override Score.BarNumber #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
(text-arg (caadr text))
(nmbr? (string-number text-arg)))
(if (not nmbr?)
(ly:grob-suicide! grob)
#f)))
\score {
\new Staff {
\relative c' {
\key g \major
\time 3/4
\tempo Allegretto
\clef bass
\compressFullBarRests
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = #3
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 1)
\set Score.alternativeNumberingStyle = #'numbers-with-letters
\partial 4
g8.-\upbow-\pp-1 (a16_\markup{\italic con grazia})
b8.--3 ( ais16 ) b8.- ( ais16 ) b8.- ( ais16 )
\break
}
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\omitParenthesizedBarNumbers
}
}
}
%%% END snippet
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Re: lilyglyphs 0.2 - First 'official' release
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aftergrace with pitchedtrill
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Re: lilyglyphs 0.2 - First 'official' release
Well, nobody stops you from beautifying the revision report as well ;-) But seriously, if you are looking for something to play with, you can take that document too - with credits to Git ... Best Urs -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: I'm happy (and also proud) to be able to announce a new release of my lilyglyphs LaTeX package. While I label it version 0.2 I am convinced that it is the first release that is really useable, so I consider this the initial 'public' release. Congratulations - this is really great work! I wish i had some LaTeX documents with musical symbols to typeset so that i could play with it :) thanks, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill
Stefan Thomas-5 wrote Dear community, I have the same problem like Trevor Bača, years ago. See at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-11/msg00265.html Is there a solution available? sure - what version are you using? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/aftergrace-with-pitchedtrill-tp136190p136192.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
TupletNumber direction
\version 2.16.0 \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
Is there a way to get the TupletNumber to show up on the note head side instead
of the beam side? Seems to me that this would be a pretty common tweak, and I
can't find it in the manuals or the LSR or anywhere in the list archives.
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Re: Version Control and Public Repository
hi..i have the same question..?! I reed somewhere that git isn't intended for binary packages.. and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! this is what my brother and i are working on https://github.com/schef/duhovni-projekt/ On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Francisco. It's fixed. -M. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote: 2012/11/10 Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com: You can generate your own lilypond scores page at www.omet.ca. Just upload your sources, compile them, and you'll get a page like this: http://www.omet.ca/scores/Mike_Blackstock_2/ I hadn't noticed before: source view in omet.ca does not escape and for chords, see image at http://paconet.org/lilypond/problem-omet-ca.png -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TupletNumber direction
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
\version 2.16.0 \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
Is there a way to get the TupletNumber to show up on the note head
side instead of the beam side? Seems to me that this would be a pretty
common tweak, and I can't find it in the manuals or the LSR or
anywhere in the list archives.
\tweak #'direction #DOWN \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
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Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill
Dear community, I'm using version 2.16.0 Subject: Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill Message-ID: 1352647402382-136192.p...@n5.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Stefan Thomas-5 wrote Dear community, I have the same problem like Trevor Ba?a, years ago. See at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-11/msg00265.html Is there a solution available? sure - what version are you using? Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
2012/11/11 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com: I reed somewhere that git isn't intended for binary packages.. Humans are not intended for tracking per-line changes on binary files, either. Git can do it, for example people adds videos to git repos, but it is not of great help except that you can mix binaries with all else and git is agnostic to the difference. and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material you don't own the rights of. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
And is puting it on the web for example github (public) illegal..?! On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote: 2012/11/11 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com: I reed somewhere that git isn't intended for binary packages.. Humans are not intended for tracking per-line changes on binary files, either. Git can do it, for example people adds videos to git repos, but it is not of great help except that you can mix binaries with all else and git is agnostic to the difference. and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material you don't own the rights of. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
Il 11/11/2012 18:54, Stjepan Horvat ha scritto: And is puting it on the web for example github (public) illegal..?! Sure it's illegal, if material is copyrighted and you don't have the rights. If you use a private repository I think it's ok. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
Am 11.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Federico Bruni: Il 11/11/2012 18:54, Stjepan Horvat ha scritto: And is puting it on the web for example github (public) illegal..?! Sure it's illegal, if material is copyrighted and you don't have the rights. If you use a private repository I think it's ok. Of course you can typeset anything you want and put it in a private repository on Github. But you can't if it's a public repository. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
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Re: Version Control and Public Repository
Am 11.11.2012 17:43, schrieb Stjepan Horvat: hi..i have the same question..?! I reed somewhere that git isn'tintended for binary packages.. What Git does is comparing files line by line, which essentially works only for text files. It stores the differences between the files which can be a single line between two versions of a file. If it has to compare two versions of a binary file (e.g. a PDF) it has to store the complete files of each version. This isn't efficient, but it works. I think the general approach is to ignore (i.e. exclude them from the git repository) files that are a) unnecessary (like backup or intermediate files) or b) can easily be recreated from the textual source files. * So I would generally put *.pdf in the .gitignore file because they can be easily recreated with LilyPond. * If you want to have them as public downloads for people who don't have LilyPond, you can include them in the repository, but I would suggest to exclude them by default and only add them (with 'git add -f filename.pdf) when you consider them finished, so they probably won't change anymore) * Or even better, if you want to provide them as downloads, don't include them in the git repository but present them explicitely on the download page of your Github repository I hope this makes it somewhat clearer. and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! Or course that depends on who actually has rights for the music. I have opened a few randomly selectdes scores of your github-project. Some of them seem to be 'pop?'-songs with an author, but some might equally be 'traditionals'? Of course that makes a big difference. It does _not_ make a difference how you got the music (by ear or score). HTH Urs this is what my brother and i are working on https://github.com/schef/duhovni-projekt/ On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com mailto:blackstock.m...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Francisco. It's fixed. -M. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com mailto:paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/10 Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com mailto:blackstock.m...@gmail.com: You can generate your own lilypond scores page at www.omet.ca http://www.omet.ca. Just upload your sources, compile them, and you'll get a page like this: http://www.omet.ca/scores/Mike_Blackstock_2/ I hadn't noticed before: source view in omet.ca http://omet.ca does not escape and for chords, see image at http://paconet.org/lilypond/problem-omet-ca.png -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org http://www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com http://www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- /Nesmotren govori kao da mac(em probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
On 11 November 2012 18:39, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material you don't own the rights of. That's a simplistic play-it-safe position, but in reality copyright laws are different in every country and cover different situations in different ways. The term for derivative works of music that do not directly reuse another person's performance, which includes cover versions and new typesettings of sheet music, is Mechanical license and in the US you have the right to do this, whether or not the owner of the copyright of the original score or of a particular performance want you to or not, on payment of a small fee that is calculateda according to some tables ($15 per song + a cut of the profits, if any), managed through a central agency. In other legal giurisdictions, different laws apply. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_license for further details. M No, I'm not a lawyer either. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom key signature stencils, differentiating major and minor keys
On Nov 11, 2012, at 7:38 AM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
Hi, Paul: Thank you for the custom key signature. I have been dreaming this
for sometime, but hesitate to ask lilypond user community. I have been using
circle of fifths to identify the key signature.
Hi Ming, I'm glad you find it useful.
You mention this custom key signature can be adapted to print above the clef
sign. I am not a programmer, so not able to change (adapt).
Questions:
1. Print the custom key signature above the clef sign
2. Is it possible to retain the traditional key signature then print the
custom key signature above
3. Can this custom key signature use with \include english.ly or \language
english?
4. Can ais (as in english) print as A# Major f# Minor; same for flat as
well?
The new code below will print the name of the key above the standard key
signature. It now uses actual sharp and flat signs in the key names (Fb
rather than Fes), and the text is smaller.
It should work fine with \include english.ly or \language english, but I have
not tried it. You can edit the names of the keys by changing the relevant text
in the following parts of the code. For example change:
#{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {B Major} #
#{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {G\raise #.6 {\sharp} Minor} #
to
#{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {B M} #
#{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {G\raise #.6 {\sharp} m} #
for an abbreviated text (B M and G# m instead of B Major and G Minor).
I think this has reached the potentially useful stage, for anyone who is
still learning the key signatures or wants to know explicitly whether keys are
major or minor.
(Ideally it would be better if it did not print the name of the key signature
above a key cancellation, as with the transition from A# Minor to F Major in
the code below. I would have to figure out how to somehow access whether it
was engraving a key-cancellation or a key-signature.)
Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. I am an amateur hack at this and
stand on the shoulders of giant snippets. :-)
(Like this one http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=233 for this most recent
version).
Cheers,
-Paul
%% Begin snippet
\version 2.16.0
#(define Custom_key_sig_engraver
(make-engraver
(acknowledgers
((key-signature-interface engraver grob source-engraver)
(let* (
(context (ly:translator-context engraver))
(tonic-pitch (ly:context-property context 'tonic))
(tonic-semi (modulo (ly:pitch-semitones tonic-pitch)
12))
(acclist (ly:grob-property grob 'alteration-alist))
(accsign (if (null? acclist) 0 (cdr (list-ref
acclist 0
(psn (if (null? acclist) 0 (car (list-ref
acclist 0
(sig-stencil (ly:key-signature-interface::print
grob))
)
(cond
((= accsign 0)
(if (= tonic-semi 0)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob
'stencil
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge sig-stencil 1 1
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup \raise #2.3 \magnify #0.7 {C Major} #})
.5 ))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob
'stencil
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge sig-stencil 1 1
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup \raise #2.3 \magnify #0.7 {A Minor} #})
.5 ))
))
((= accsign 1/2);; SHARP KEYS
(cond
((= psn 3)
(if (= tonic-semi 7)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob
'stencil
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge sig-stencil 1 1
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {G Major} #}) .5 ))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob
'stencil
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge sig-stencil 1 1
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup \magnify #0.7 {E Minor} #}) .5 ))
))
((= psn 0)
(if (= tonic-semi 2)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob
'stencil
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge sig-stencil 1 1
Re:Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything
On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:10:44 +0100 From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything Message-ID: 509f5d84.7050...@hohlart.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Am 10.11.2012 14:49, schrieb David Kastrup: [...] -i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order, this is bound to come rather early in a directory listing, so if you have files a, b, c in the directory, rm * .o expands into rm -i a b c .o It does not help much if you have a sort order where - gets ignored, obviously. Hey, that's clever! Marc Indeed, it is clever. However, it doesn't seem to work on a mac running OSX 10.7.5. I find that the command touch .\-i creates a file called .-i, which doesn't look like the -i option to the rm command. I can get it to work with any of these commands: touch -i touch -- -i echo -i Pat ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything
Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com writes: On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:10:44 +0100 From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything Message-ID: 509f5d84.7050...@hohlart.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Am 10.11.2012 14:49, schrieb David Kastrup: [...] -i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order, this is bound to come rather early in a directory listing, so if you have files a, b, c in the directory, rm * .o expands into rm -i a b c .o It does not help much if you have a sort order where - gets ignored, obviously. Hey, that's clever! Marc Indeed, it is clever. However, it doesn't seem to work on a mac running OSX 10.7.5. I find that the command touch .\-i creates a file called .-i, which doesn't look like the -i option to the rm command. Sure it would. But I wrote touch ./-i which is quite different. I can get it to work with any of these commands: touch -i No idea about OSX, but on GNU/Linux this will give you dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/lilypond$ touch -i touch: invalid option -- 'i' Try `touch --help' for more information. You could try touch -- -i instead, but ./-i is simpler. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: TupletNumber direction
I guess I should have been more clear, but I was in a rush. What I'm actually
looking for is a function to have tuplet numbers ALWAYS appear on the note head
side, regardless of stem direction.
DR
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From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org]
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To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TupletNumber direction
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
\version 2.16.0 \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
Is there a way to get the TupletNumber to show up on the note head
side instead of the beam side? Seems to me that this would be a pretty
common tweak, and I can't find it in the manuals or the LSR or
anywhere in the list archives.
\tweak #'direction #DOWN \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
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RE: TupletNumber direction
Also, I'm a little confused as to why \override TupletNumber #'direction = #-1
isn't working just as well in the meantime.
DR
-Original Message-
From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org]
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:52 AM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TupletNumber direction
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
\version 2.16.0 \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
Is there a way to get the TupletNumber to show up on the note head
side instead of the beam side? Seems to me that this would be a pretty
common tweak, and I can't find it in the manuals or the LSR or
anywhere in the list archives.
\tweak #'direction #DOWN \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
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Re: TupletNumber direction
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
Also, I'm a little confused as to why \override TupletNumber
#'direction = #-1 isn't working just as well in the meantime.
Because it is not consulted?
\version 2.16.0
\new Voice {
\times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
\override TupletBracket #'direction = #DOWN
\times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
}
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Creating charts, not scores: horizontally lining up
I need to make a number of charts that demonstrate various kinds of
non-traditional scales. Appended is a lilypond example towards
something I would like to do. The first issue I would
like to deal with is as follows:
I need the rests and notes to line up precisely. D natural on
the lower stave needs to fall exactly below D natural on the upper
stave.
Likewise, an eighth rest in front of a Csharp on the lower
stave needs to fall exactly below a a C natural on the upper stave.
---
Once this is solved, I would like to replace the
eighth rests with eight spaces (I know, use s8 instead of r8)
and then make the stems disappear.
Any pointers would be appreciated. Thank you.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
#(set-default-paper-size letter 'landscape)
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\bookpart { % BOOKPART BEGIN
\score {
\new Staff
{
\clef bass
\time 3/4
e,8 r8 r8 g,8 gs,8 r8 as,8 b,8 r8 cs8 r8 ds8 r8 r8 fs8 g8 r8 a8 as8 r8
\clef treble
c'8 r8 d'8 r8 r8 f'8 fs'8 r8 gs'8 a'8 r8 b'8 r8 cs''8 r8 r8 e''8 f''8 r8
g''8 gs''8 r8 as''8 r8 c'''8 r8 r8 ds'''8 e'''8 r8 fs'''8 g'''8 r8 a'''8 r8
b'''8
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner
#'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
\score {
\new Staff
{
\clef bass
\time 3/4
e,8 r8 r8 g,8 r8 a,8 r8 b,8 c8 r8 d8 ds8 r8 r8 fs8 r8 gs8 r8 as8 b8
\clef treble
r8 cs'8 d'8 r8 r8 f'8 r8 g'8 r8 a'8 as'8 r8 c''8 cs''8 r8 r8 e''8 r8 fs''8
r8 gs''8 a''8 r8 b''8 c'''8 r8 r8 ds'''8 r8 f'''8 r8 g'''8 gs'''8 r8 as'''8
b'''8
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner
#'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
} % BOOKPART END
attachment: test_test_03-simp01.png\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
#(set-default-paper-size letter 'landscape)
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\bookpart { % BOOKPART BEGIN
\score {
\new Staff
{
\clef bass
\time 3/4
e,8 r8 r8 g,8 gs,8 r8 as,8 b,8 r8 cs8 r8 ds8 r8 r8 fs8 g8 r8 a8 as8 r8
\clef treble
c'8 r8 d'8 r8 r8 f'8 fs'8 r8 gs'8 a'8 r8 b'8 r8 cs''8 r8 r8 e''8 f''8 r8
g''8 gs''8 r8 as''8 r8 c'''8 r8 r8 ds'''8 e'''8 r8 fs'''8 g'''8 r8 a'''8 r8
b'''8
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner
#'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
\score {
\new Staff
{
\clef bass
\time 3/4
e,8 r8 r8 g,8 r8 a,8 r8 b,8 c8 r8 d8 ds8 r8 r8 fs8 r8 gs8 r8 as8 b8
\clef treble
r8 cs'8 d'8 r8 r8 f'8 r8 g'8 r8 a'8 as'8 r8 c''8 cs''8 r8 r8 e''8 r8 fs''8
r8 gs''8 a''8 r8 b''8 c'''8 r8 r8 ds'''8 r8 f'''8 r8 g'''8 gs'''8 r8 as'''8
b'''8
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner
#'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
} % BOOKPART END
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Re: TupletNumber direction
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess I should have been more clear, but I was in a rush. What I'm actually
looking for is a function to have tuplet numbers ALWAYS appear on the note
head side, regardless of stem direction.
You could do something like this, which looks at the direction of the
first stem in the tuplet to determine where the note head is:
\relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'direction =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((note-column (ly:grob-parent grob X))
(stem (ly:grob-object note-column 'stem))
(stem-direction (ly:grob-property stem 'direction)))
(if (= UP stem-direction)
DOWN
UP)))
\times 2/3 { c8 c c }
\times 2/3 { c,8 c c }
\times 2/3 { c'8 c c }
\times 2/3 { c,8 c c }
}
This doesn't address the issue of the stem direction changing during
the course of the tuplet (i.e., for a kneed beam).
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
Also, I'm a little confused as to why \override TupletNumber
#'direction = #-1 isn't working just as well in the meantime.
Because it is not consulted?
\version 2.16.0
\new Voice {
\times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
\override TupletBracket #'direction = #DOWN
\times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
}
Yes--the tuplet number is pulled along by the bracket, even though
there is none visible here.
HTH,
David
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RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 120, Issue 54
Aha! That would explain it. DR -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+drosen27=gmail@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+drosen27=gmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 3:47 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 120, Issue 54 Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:56 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
You did not copy and paste valid LilyPond code into #{ #}. You replaced
a constant in a constant list by a symbol. That was not valid outside
of #{ #}, and it did not became valid inside of it.
Hmm. Indeed. Too bad that to make the code valid one has to make it
significantly different.
That's what backquoting is for: that way you don't have to make it
significantly different, you just swap the ' for ` and put a , before
the expression parts which you _do_ want to have evaluated after all.
ok, you are right. My complaint was unjustified.
Nevertheless, the solution available with 2.17.6 is million times
better than using ` and , (from a user's point of view).
So, maybe it's a defect in convert-ly?
Uh, no? That conversion is perfectly correct. In fact, the last
argument, which is the _value_ argument for \overrideProperty, has not
been changed at all. It is just the same as before.
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Re: helper function that should take a list argument doesn't do anything
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:49 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: What really annoys me is the fact that rm has no reasonable safeguard. [...] i'd like to see a safeguard against deleting too many files rm is not a file manager. I do larger renaming/removal workloads using Emacs (hardly surprising), but there are also other file managers. indeed, rm is not a file manager. However, rm has this: -I prompt once before removing more than three files, so it makes sense to me to have an option for prompting before removing more than n files, too. As for Emacs, i think it wouldn't make sense to write shell scripts depending on Emacs. I was thinking about having all my files in a git repository, but that's ~10 GB of data, and lots of it is in a binary (i mean, non-diffable) form. Do you think it would make sense to use git for that? It's pretty efficient for storing even binary blobs. i'll try then. -i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order, this is bound to come rather early in a directory listing, so if you have files a, b, c in the directory, rm * .o expands into rm -i a b c .o It does not help much if you have a sort order where - gets ignored, obviously. ah, that's really nice! thanks for explanation. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: On my GNU/Linux box, I'm using the libtrash library which intercepts `rm' and friends to store data to be deleted in a trash directory. A cron script then really deletes the collected data once a day. http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~marriaga/software/libtrash/ I'm very satisfied with it. looks interesting. I'll give it a try - thanks for suggestion! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
Ben, On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: David: I see, thanks for clarifying that for me. So, in your opinion, if I wanted to use these aleatoric boxes on a few scores here and there, that would be doable - though not ideal, it would /work/- correct? I wouldn't ever need this type of notation on anything of a larger scale. I think that if you're using it on single files (and not, say, with lilypond-book), there shouldn't be a problem. At least I haven't noticed anything untoward. But understand that the way the new grob is built up with its new properties and event-class and such is not done in a sound way. There is currently no proper user interface for doing this sort of thing in an .ly file. When there is one, parts of this file will need to be rewritten (as happened in the situation that brought you to the list, which came about because of a step in the direction of this new-grob-with-all-the-fixings interface made by David Kastrup). I ask because in future scores I'll have to do something similar to this and want to make sure I don't corrupt my dear LilyPond install :) No, the files are safe! -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond cheat sheat
Am 07.11.2012 01:25, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: On 2012-11-06 23:14, Noeck wrote: many years ago I made a cheat sheet for Lilypond, because I couldn't remember all the syntax by heart. Now, after having used Lilypond for some years and after reading the notation reference again, I've made an updated version, which might be helpful for other users, too. It requires a basic knowledge of Lilypond and aims at putting as much information as possible on one page. Wow, amazing. And incredible how much information you can cram onto one single page! And thanks for sharing it with us. BTW, I wrote a similar cheat sheet a while ago, but aiming at new users, so I didn't try to get everything on the page. The code (latex and lilypond) is under a CC license, too: http://www.edition-kainhofer.com/en/lilypond/details/2111/ https://gitorious.org/lilypond-cheatsheet http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/44506/ I think both cheat sheets nicely complement each other. Mine tries to be easy to understand to new users and show them the most important things, while yours is for advanced users and tries to give as much information as possible. Cheers, Reinhold I have seen your cheat sheet before and it is a very good help and introduction to LilyPond. (I haven't found the pdf before, and with your first link I get a 404 error.) I am impressed, that it is done with LaTeX! That makes it easier to update, but definitely needs some extra layout skills, that I don't have in LaTeX. You're right that the two are complementing each other. I hope that LilyPond will attract many new users and hopefully our cheat sheets will be helpful to them (as they are for me). Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TupletNumber direction
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com wrote: Fantastic. I had a feeling that it would be a relatively simple function (it certainly appears to be), but I know absolutely nothing about Scheme. I'll have to read the Extending manual one of these days. Yes--Scheme certainly opens up a lot of possibilities, and it's great fun if you like solving puzzles. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom key signature stencils, differentiating major and minor keys
Here is an improved version. It works the same as the last,
but with much more streamlined and concise code.
-Paul
\version 2.16.0
#(define Custom_key_sig_engraver
(make-engraver
(acknowledgers
((key-signature-interface engraver grob source-engraver)
(let* (
(context (ly:translator-context engraver))
(tonic-pitch (ly:context-property context 'tonic))
(tonic-semi (modulo (ly:pitch-semitones tonic-pitch) 12)) ;;
semitone of tonic note, 0-11
(acclist (ly:grob-property grob 'alteration-alist))
(accsign (if (null? acclist) 0 (cdr (list-ref acclist 0
;; accidental sign type, 1/2=sharp, -1/2=flat
(psn (if (null? acclist) 0 (car (list-ref acclist
0 ;; vertical position of last accidental sign
(key-name #{ \markup {} #})
)
(cond
((= accsign 0)
(if (= tonic-semi 0)
(set! key-name #{ \markup \raise #3.4 {C Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup \raise #3.4 {A Minor} #})
))
((= accsign 1/2) ;; SHARP KEYS
(cond
((= psn 3)
(if (= tonic-semi 7)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {G Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {E Minor} #})
))
((= psn 0)
(if (= tonic-semi 2)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {D Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {B Minor} #})
))
((= psn 4)
(if (= tonic-semi 9)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {A Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {F\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 1)
(if (= tonic-semi 4)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {E Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {C\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 5)
(if (= tonic-semi 11)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {B Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {G\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 2)
(if (= tonic-semi 6)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {F\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {D\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 6)
(if (= tonic-semi 1)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {C\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {A\raise #.6 {\sharp}
Minor} #})
))
)
)
((= accsign -1/2) ;; FLAT KEYS
(cond
((= psn 6)
(if (= tonic-semi 5)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {F Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {D Minor} #})
))
((= psn 2)
(if (= tonic-semi 10)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {B\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {G Minor} #})
))
((= psn 5)
(if (= tonic-semi 3)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {E\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {C Minor} #})
))
((= psn 1)
(if (= tonic-semi 8)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {A\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {F Minor} #})
))
((= psn 4)
(if (= tonic-semi 1)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {D\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {B\raise #.4 {\flat}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 0)
(if (= tonic-semi 6)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {G\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {E\raise #.4 {\flat}
Minor} #})
))
((= psn 3)
(if (= tonic-semi 11)
(set! key-name #{ \markup {C\raise #.4 {\flat}
Major} #})
(set! key-name #{ \markup {A\raise #.4 {\flat}
Minor} #})
))
gregorian.ly and line breaking
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Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
David, Thanks for the feedback! It's sad to hear that boxed notation is a bit challenging in LilyPond (i.e. not possible without breaking parts of it) - do you think there will ever be a native, more acceptable way to do boxed notation in the future? I'm not much a programmer so I apologize if that is a silly question, but it'd be awesome if it could be implemented. I'm not sure if you mean it's not possible yet, or not possible from a programming standpoint. Thanks, Ben David Nalesnik-2 wrote Ben, On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM, SoundsFromSound lt; soundsfromsound@ gt; wrote: David: I see, thanks for clarifying that for me. So, in your opinion, if I wanted to use these aleatoric boxes on a few scores here and there, that would be doable - though not ideal, it would /work/- correct? I wouldn't ever need this type of notation on anything of a larger scale. I think that if you're using it on single files (and not, say, with lilypond-book), there shouldn't be a problem. At least I haven't noticed anything untoward. But understand that the way the new grob is built up with its new properties and event-class and such is not done in a sound way. * There is currently no proper user interface for doing this sort of thing in an .ly file. * When there is one, parts of this file will need to be rewritten (as happened in the situation that brought you to the list, which came about because of a step in the direction of this new-grob-with-all-the-fixings interface made by David Kastrup). I ask because in future scores I'll have to do something similar to this and want to make sure I don't corrupt my dear LilyPond install :) No, the files are safe! -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Aleatoric-modern-notation-tp18113p136229.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TupletNumber direction
2012/11/11 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com wrote:
Fantastic. I had a feeling that it would be a relatively simple function (it
certainly appears to be), but I know absolutely nothing about Scheme. I'll
have to read the Extending manual one of these days.
Yes--Scheme certainly opens up a lot of possibilities, and it's great
fun if you like solving puzzles.
Hi David,
Big surprise: I _do_ like solving puzzles. :D
On topic:
Your function doesn't cover the case, where a rest is first in a tuplet.
Try it with:
\relative c'' {
\times 2/3 { r8 c, c }
}
Here my approach, covering the rest-case and emitting a warning if
kneed beam is occurring:
\version 2.16.0
\relative c' {
\override TupletBracket #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((tuplet-dir (ly:grob-property grob 'direction))
(note-columns (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object
grob 'note-columns)))
(note-heads-array-list
(flatten-list
(map
(lambda (x)
(ly:grob-object x 'note-heads))
note-columns)))
(note-heads
(flatten-list
(map
(lambda (x)
(ly:grob-array-list x))
note-heads-array-list)))
(stems (map (lambda (x) (ly:grob-object x 'stem)) note-heads))
(stem-dirs (map (lambda (x) (ly:grob-property x
'direction)) stems))
(sorted-stems-dirs-list (sort-list stem-dirs (lambda
(a b) ( a b
(equal-stems-dir? (= (car sorted-stems-dirs-list)
(car (reverse sorted-stems-dirs-list)
(if (and equal-stems-dir? (= (car sorted-stems-dirs-list) tuplet-dir))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'direction (* -1 (car
sorted-stems-dirs-list)))
(ly:warning Kneed beam detected - if desired, adjust
TupletBracket manually.
\times 2/3 { c'8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 r c }
\times 2/3 { c c'' r }
\break
\times 2/3 { c,,,8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 r c }
\times 2/3 { c c'' r }
}
Best,
Harm
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RE: TupletNumber direction
I can't speak to whether the code is sound, but if it is, this should be added
to the LSR. Quite frankly, I'm surprised something similar isn't there already.
DR
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From: Thomas Morley [mailto:thomasmorle...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:32 PM
To: David Nalesnik
Cc: Daniel Rosen; David Kastrup; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TupletNumber direction
2012/11/11 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com wrote:
Fantastic. I had a feeling that it would be a relatively simple function (it
certainly appears to be), but I know absolutely nothing about Scheme. I'll
have to read the Extending manual one of these days.
Yes--Scheme certainly opens up a lot of possibilities, and it's great
fun if you like solving puzzles.
Hi David,
Big surprise: I _do_ like solving puzzles. :D
On topic:
Your function doesn't cover the case, where a rest is first in a tuplet.
Try it with:
\relative c'' {
\times 2/3 { r8 c, c }
}
Here my approach, covering the rest-case and emitting a warning if kneed beam
is occurring:
\version 2.16.0
\relative c' {
\override TupletBracket #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((tuplet-dir (ly:grob-property grob 'direction))
(note-columns (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-columns)))
(note-heads-array-list
(flatten-list
(map
(lambda (x)
(ly:grob-object x 'note-heads))
note-columns)))
(note-heads
(flatten-list
(map
(lambda (x)
(ly:grob-array-list x))
note-heads-array-list)))
(stems (map (lambda (x) (ly:grob-object x 'stem)) note-heads))
(stem-dirs (map (lambda (x) (ly:grob-property x
'direction)) stems))
(sorted-stems-dirs-list (sort-list stem-dirs (lambda (a b) (
a b
(equal-stems-dir? (= (car sorted-stems-dirs-list) (car
(reverse sorted-stems-dirs-list)
(if (and equal-stems-dir? (= (car sorted-stems-dirs-list) tuplet-dir))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'direction (* -1 (car
sorted-stems-dirs-list)))
(ly:warning Kneed beam detected - if desired, adjust TupletBracket
manually.
\times 2/3 { c'8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 r c }
\times 2/3 { c c'' r }
\break
\times 2/3 { c,,,8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 c c }
\times 2/3 { r8 r c }
\times 2/3 { c c'' r }
}
Best,
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Re: unwanted barnumber
2012/11/11 shutterfreak olivier.b...@gmail.com: While incorporating this code in another score I came across a layouting problem: if the tempo name is sufficiently long, then the first measure number will be rendered _above_ the tempo indicator. This problem only occurs when \omitParenthesizedBarNumbers is invoked in the layout block. Hi Olivier, try it with: omitParenthesizedBarNumbers = \override Score.BarNumber #'before-line-breaking = #(lambda (grob) (let* ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text)) (text-arg (caadr text)) (nmbr? (string-number text-arg))) (if (not nmbr?) (ly:grob-suicide! grob) #f))) HTH, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill
Stefan Thomas-5 wrote Dear community, I'm using version 2.16.0 Trevor complained about: /But combining pitchedTrill with afterGrace gives a wide and varied array of warnings and errors, …/ is that still the case with 2.16.0? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/aftergrace-with-pitchedtrill-tp136190p136234.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unwanted barnumber
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/11 shutterfreak olivier.b...@gmail.com: While incorporating this code in another score I came across a layouting problem: if the tempo name is sufficiently long, then the first measure number will be rendered _above_ the tempo indicator. This problem only occurs when \omitParenthesizedBarNumbers is invoked in the layout block. Hi Olivier, try it with: omitParenthesizedBarNumbers = \override Score.BarNumber #'before-line-breaking = #(lambda (grob) (let* ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text)) (text-arg (caadr text)) (nmbr? (string-number text-arg))) (if (not nmbr?) (ly:grob-suicide! grob) #f))) HTH, Harm Hi Thomas, Thanks again for your help! Replacing #'after-line-breaking with #'before-line-breaking in omitParenthesizedBarNumbers did the trick. Best regards, Olivier ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
Ben, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: David, Thanks for the feedback! It's sad to hear that boxed notation is a bit challenging in LilyPond (i.e. not possible without breaking parts of it) - do you think there will ever be a native, more acceptable way to do boxed notation in the future? I'm not much a programmer so I apologize if that is a silly question, but it'd be awesome if it could be implemented. I'm not sure if you mean it's not possible yet, or not possible from a programming standpoint. At some point in time, I do hope that there is an interface which will allow users to define fully functioning grobs within .ly files. I think that will be a giant step forward for the program, as it will lead to all sorts of new capabilities. I can't speak to the details of how this will be done as this is beyond my skill level. The current way to create new grobs is to make the necessary additions to the various files in the code base. (This is what was done recently to create the MeasureCounter grob.) It should be possible to add frame notation this way, but I think it will be a long road! (If you do use this engraver, please let me know if you run into problems or wish it could do something it can't; I'll be happy to try to improve it, and possibly do this the right way if it's promising...) Best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TupletNumber direction
2012/11/11 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com: I can't speak to whether the code is sound, but if it is, this should be added to the LSR. Quite frankly, I'm surprised something similar isn't there already. DR Do you really think it's usefull? As soon as polyphonic occurs, it will produce weird output (I think, not tested). -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: TupletNumber direction
Well, that's what I meant when I said that I can't speak to whether the code was good--I don't know what kind of stuff to check for. But I do personally think the functionality is useful. DR -Original Message- From: Thomas Morley [mailto:thomasmorle...@googlemail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:57 PM To: Daniel Rosen Cc: David Nalesnik; David Kastrup; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: TupletNumber direction 2012/11/11 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com: I can't speak to whether the code is sound, but if it is, this should be added to the LSR. Quite frankly, I'm surprised something similar isn't there already. DR Do you really think it's usefull? As soon as polyphonic occurs, it will produce weird output (I think, not tested). -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond cheat sheet
Hi Joram, Thank you for the updates cheat sheet. As a matter of fact I just printed both cheat sheets on one sheet of paper and laminated it. Two sides of invaluable LilyPond information :-) Hint 1: use heavier stock paper when printing double sided. Hint 2: print borderless for printing the other sheet (pale green background). Best regards, Olivier On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote: Thank you for all your comments on my cheat sheet[1]! I included them and spotted some more. Here are the updated versions of the English and the German cheat sheet (in svg and pdf format)[2]: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_en.svg http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_en.pdf http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_de.svg http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_de.pdf Because there is no script to produce it, but only an svg file, I cannot recommend including it in the documentation of LilyPond (just as a matter of file size and the reduced diff-ability). But, not just because I've made it, but especially from a user's point of view, I would suggest to make a link from the documentation to the cheat sheets of Reinhold Kainhofer (if he agrees) and me. (Perhaps from the bottom of this page: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/cheat-sheet). For me personally it is a great help to have a cheat sheet while writing scores with LilyPond and I think many users would welcome it, but they would never find my website or Reinhold's. Both for beginners and more advanced users these could be useful in addition to the above mentioned existing cheat sheet of the documentation. Concerning the question how to update it for new versions: The documentation is for 2.16 anyway and a link could be removed in case it gets outdated. However, I intend to update it to the next stable version as soon as that comes out. But I cannot guarantee that for all eternity, though. Cheers, Joram [1] I have corrected Lilypond to LilyPond even though I dislike this capital P ;) [2] The website itself is not there yet, but the files are accessible. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill
2012/11/11 Eluze elu...@gmail.com:
Stefan Thomas-5 wrote
Dear community,
I'm using version 2.16.0
Trevor complained about:
/But combining pitchedTrill with afterGrace gives a wide and varied
array of warnings and errors, …/
is that still the case with 2.16.0?
Eluze
I tested:
\new Staff {
\afterGrace
\pitchedTrill
fis''2
\startTrillSpan gis''
{ e''16[ fis''] }
g''2
\stopTrillSpan
}
with 2.14.2, 2.16.0 and 2.17.6
No warnings.
Output is always quite equal (some differents in spacing, etc)
-png
@Stefan:
Example?
-Harm
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Re: Bass and chords
2012/11/7 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: Will do, if noone comes up with a better solution or finds a drawback. We have markup commands \note and \note-by-number. It seems to me that it would likely be most straightforward to provide the same for \rest and possibly \rest-by-number and use that as part of the solution. Seems you don't like the context-modifications. :) What should \rest-by-number do, what \musicglyph can't? Proper output of R1*x? More? And how to use it? Perhaps: \once \set ChordNames.noChordSymbol = \markup \rest-by-number reading/processing duration and style ? -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: aftergrace with pitchedtrill
2012/11/12 Eric eric.schis...@gmail.com:
I've had this problem for awhile but in 2.16.0 hit on something that worked
once. Whether it can be generalized to a _solution_ I don't know. Here's a
snippet, I hope it helps (it's from a cadenza-like passage in a violin part
of a quartet (composed ca.1899, published posthumously 1904), f.w.i.w. ...)
\stemNeutral g8[( \times 4/6 {\stemUp a!32 b c d e f)]} \stemNeutral
\afterGrace \pitchedTrill g2(\fermata\startTrillSpan as { fis16[ g])
bes4^\markup{\italicrit.}^^ as^^ g(^^ e!\stopTrillSpan)^^}
Eric Schissel
Adding
\override TrillPitchAccidental #'avoid-slur = #'inside
kills all warnings.
Am I missing sth?
-Harm
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Re: lilyglyphs 0.2 - First 'official' release
2012/11/11 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de: Well, nobody stops you from beautifying the revision report as well ;-) But seriously, if you are looking for something to play with, you can take that document too - with credits to Git ... Best Urs -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: I'm happy (and also proud) to be able to announce a new release of my lilyglyphs LaTeX package. While I label it version 0.2 I am convinced that it is the first release that is really useable, so I consider this the initial 'public' release. Congratulations - this is really great work! I wish i had some LaTeX documents with musical symbols to typeset so that i could play with it :) thanks, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi Urs, btw, I recently wished to link to your LilyPond tutorial, announced here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00450.html Couldn't find it anymore. Cancelled? Link changed? Thanks, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
David: I'll keep you posted for sure. Say, do you suppose that this boxed notation utility could be implemented sooner (and perhaps with more powerful features) in LilyPond if funding/support increased? If so, this is one feature where I'd absolutely give all that I could to make possible. :) $ Ben David Nalesnik-2 wrote Ben, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM, SoundsFromSound lt; soundsfromsound@ gt; wrote: David, Thanks for the feedback! It's sad to hear that boxed notation is a bit challenging in LilyPond (i.e. not possible without breaking parts of it) - do you think there will ever be a native, more acceptable way to do boxed notation in the future? I'm not much a programmer so I apologize if that is a silly question, but it'd be awesome if it could be implemented. I'm not sure if you mean it's not possible yet, or not possible from a programming standpoint. At some point in time, I do hope that there is an interface which will allow users to define fully functioning grobs within .ly files. I think that will be a giant step forward for the program, as it will lead to all sorts of new capabilities. I can't speak to the details of how this will be done as this is beyond my skill level. The current way to create new grobs is to make the necessary additions to the various files in the code base. (This is what was done recently to create the MeasureCounter grob.) It should be possible to add frame notation this way, but I think it will be a long road! (If you do use this engraver, please let me know if you run into problems or wish it could do something it can't; I'll be happy to try to improve it, and possibly do this the right way if it's promising...) Best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Aleatoric-modern-notation-tp18113p136248.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilyglyphs 0.2 - First 'official' release
Am 12.11.2012 01:15, schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi Urs, btw, I recently wished to link to your LilyPond tutorial, announced here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00450.html Couldn't find it anymore. Cancelled? Link changed? Ah, it is now at http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html I had to clean up my home page in order to offer a more concise profile. Unfortunately I never had the time to update the tutorial. It is a pity that I couldn't incorporate the feedback I got here. And I'm sorry that I couldn't re-do it with copyright-free music. But it's still there, now accessible again, and I'd be thankful about any links ;-) Best Urs Thanks, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilyglyphs 0.2 - First 'official' release
2012/11/12 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de: Am 12.11.2012 01:15, schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi Urs, btw, I recently wished to link to your LilyPond tutorial, announced here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00450.html Couldn't find it anymore. Cancelled? Link changed? Ah, it is now at http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html I had to clean up my home page in order to offer a more concise profile. Unfortunately I never had the time to update the tutorial. It is a pity that I couldn't incorporate the feedback I got here. And I'm sorry that I couldn't re-do it with copyright-free music. But it's still there, now accessible again, and I'd be thankful about any links ;-) See http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1257.0 together with the cheat sheets. -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optional args in event-function not working with 2.17.6 ?
2012/11/9 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
I was working on
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-11/msg00185.html
and wrote a event-function as a template for custom-script-signs.
This function uses some optional arguments and works as expected in 2.16.0
But not in 2.17.6
What am I missing?
newScript =
#(define-event-function (parser location lst scaling strg) ((list? '(0
0 0)) (boolean? #f) string?)
grave = \newScript #'(-1 0 0) ##t `
acute = \newScript #'(0 1 0) ##t ´
threePoints = \newScript …
noName = \newScript @
I'd have expected these use cases to work. However, the interface is a
bit shaky since a string that can be parsed as a symbol will be
converted into a list of symbols. So a string like a or xxx would
fit the list? predicate. How do we get out here?
a) The obvious solution is to use number-list? rather than list? as a
predicate, and we won't get fed a symbol list.
But the behavior is unexpected, so it might be better to amend it in
addition. How to amend it?
b) … does not really look like an identifier even though it obeys
LilyPond's rules for unquoted word syntax. Only allow ASCII characters
in things auto-converted into symbol lists.
c) That does not help with xxx. Only allow unquoted words to
autoconvert into symbol lists. I am actually working on this already
since I am not satisfied with input/regression/lyric-tweak.ly (writing
quotes seems like it should be sufficient; having to write \markup seems
weird). But I am not finished yet, and it would have warranted getting
finished before discussion. I have kept the changes.tely entry vague
enough that it would cover this behavior as well. Cough cough.
Solution c would make quoted and unquoted strings unequivalent.
Solution b would stop the equivalence between what can be an unquoted
word and what can be a symbol.
I am not decided about b. It would not have helped you much. You'd
still have gotten failures, but the problem would likely have been
easier to recognize. Possibly with both b and c in place, it would
become easy to guess what happened in the remaining failure cases.
What do you think?
--
David Kastrup
Hi David,
sorry replying that late.
a)
My initial function works following your suggestion to use number-list?
or
if changing the string?-predicate to markup? and using \markup xxx,
with the function-call.
That's nice.
Thanks a lot.
b)
I can't follow all subtleties of your explanations. And also, I can't
imagine all consequences of possible code-changes.
The following is the code I used for testing some alternatives.
\version 2.17.6
#(define (command l n t)
#{
\once \override NoteHead #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'stencil
(grob-interpret-markup grob (markup t)))
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'font-size n)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color l))
\once \override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
#})
aa =
#(define-music-function (parser location lst size txt)((list? '(1 0
0)) (number? 1) markup?)
(command lst size txt))
bb =
#(define-music-function (parser location lst size txt)((number-list?
'(1 0 0)) (number? 1) string?)
(command lst size txt))
% --- test
\paper { line-width = 30 indent = 0 }
\relative c'' {
\aa #'(0 1 1) #1 \markup xy
c1
\aa \markup xy
d
% error with (omitting the first argument):
%\aa #3 \markup xy
%e
\break
\bb #'(0 1 1) #1 xy
c
\bb xy
d
% error with (omitting the first argument):
%\bb #4 xy
%e
}
Seems to work with both functions.
I'd prefer \bb
i.e using number-list? because in the end it's less typing.
But I'd be happy with both versions.
c)
The functions above are using two optional arguments.
And I'm able to omit both optional arguments or the second.
But I can't omit only the first.
Why?
Regards,
Harm
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Re: Accidentals with \modalTranspose
Vaughan McAlley vaughan at mcalley.net.au writes:
I want to notate a modal canon at the fifth. \modalTranspose works
well until there are accidentals in the original line. Fiddling with
the scale by adding notes causes problems; what would be nice is to be
able to specify *two* scales:
\modalTranspose can use modes that contain accidentals, but the underlying
code cannot be easily modified to have two different pitches in the mode
transpose to the same output pitch.
It looks like the canon uses regular transpositions, but with a few
exceptions (or mistakes? or instances of a former convention for notation?)
where the transposition gives B-flat but B was written.
When there are exceptions to the pattern, I uses LilyPond to generate the
input that obeys the pattern strictly, in the form of text input that I
can past into the input file
\displayLilyMusic \transpose g c {\firstCanon }
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Re: Square brackets across an entire system?
Aristotle Esguerra aristotle at esguerra.info writes: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=377 Is there a similar way to create square brackets that span an entire system? The answer appears to be no, although it would seem to be useful to have. Drawing one bracket across many staves is more difficult than what the existing LSR item does, because the height has to vary depending on the space required for the staves. LilyPond draws span bars across several staves, and has an accessible interface to choose what shapes to use for bar lines (in bar-line.scm) so a LilyPond user who understands some Scheme could probably make the extended brackets, with some effort. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
Now thats a useful information..i will ask a lawyer here in croatia and report what i heard. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:33 PM, martinwguy martinw...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 November 2012 18:39, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for.. how do you handle this kind of staff.. What are the laws related to such situations?! I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material you don't own the rights of. That's a simplistic play-it-safe position, but in reality copyright laws are different in every country and cover different situations in different ways. The term for derivative works of music that do not directly reuse another person's performance, which includes cover versions and new typesettings of sheet music, is Mechanical license and in the US you have the right to do this, whether or not the owner of the copyright of the original score or of a particular performance want you to or not, on payment of a small fee that is calculateda according to some tables ($15 per song + a cut of the profits, if any), managed through a central agency. In other legal giurisdictions, different laws apply. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_license for further details. M No, I'm not a lawyer either. -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
