Re: Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
On 2013-06-05 04:26, Jonathan wrote: I am interested in making a Lilypond syntax highlighter for Notepad++. Here is one way of using Notepad++ and Lilypond and SumatraPDF http://www.hochstrasser.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/CoolSoftware/NPPLilyPond and the actual syntax highlighter file is here http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/userDefinedLang/userDefineLang_LilyPond.xml It may be a start... // Anders -- English isn't my first language. So any error or strangeness is due to the translation. Please correct my English so that I may become better. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
You also could check out the Frescobaldi sources on GitHub. There should be some material in it you could use. Jonathan schrieb: >Hello, > >I am new to Lilypond and am THRILLED with it. > >I am interested in making a Lilypond syntax highlighter for Notepad++. >Have >the issues with the lilypond-words.el file described in >http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-12/msg00345.html >been >fixed? Is there any other source of syntax information that would be >helpful >that doesn't involve combing through all of the manuals? > >Thanks, > >Jonathan > > >___ >lilypond-user mailing list >lilypond-user@gnu.org >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Jonathan wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to Lilypond and am THRILLED with it. > > I am interested in making a Lilypond syntax highlighter for Notepad++. Have > the issues with the lilypond-words.el file described in > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-12/msg00345.html been > fixed? Is there any other source of syntax information that would be > helpful > that doesn't involve combing through all of the manuals? > Jonathan, The source-code distribution of Lilypond contains editor configurations for emacs and vim, both of which are quite a bit more advanced text editors than Notepad++ and therefore have accordingly more expressive configurations, including lists of keywords and rules for, e.g., indentation, matching, blocks etc. Depending on whether you read Lisp (emacs) or a simpler scripting language (vim), these configurations may or may not be a source of inspiration. Cheers /Christian ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: osia: hide first bar line on left hand of key signature
Konstatin Heuer neophon.eu> writes: > Is it possible to get the same result like with > > \remove "System_start_delimiter_engraver" > > between some Staffs only? > > So as to synchronize several GrandStaffs, that are not meant to be one score. > I suspect that I have misunderstood you, but you can ask each GrandStaff to print a start bar inside its curved brace: \layout { \context {\Score \remove System_start_delimiter_engraver } \context {\GrandStaff systemStartDelimiterHierarchy = #'(SystemStartBar (SystemStartBrace 1 2 3)) }} << \new GrandStaff << \transpose c c'' { c d e f g a b c'} \transpose c c'' { c d e f g a b c'} \transpose c c'' { c d e f g a b c'} >> \new GrandStaff << \transpose c c'' { c d e f g a b c'} \transpose c c'' { c d e f g a b c'} >> >> ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: EPS file
On 5 juin 2013, at 07:46, Nikolay Kirov wrote: > Hello! > > I have a specific question: How to split a EPS file, producing by LilyPond > For example: > http://nikolay.kirov.be/2010/folk/td_093_1_01.eps > I would like to cut the file horizontally to obtain 2 files - one for the > text and one for the notes. > > Can anybody help me? > Nikolay You could write a little parser for the EPS file - one that keeps all of the text, and one that doesn't. The text is in lines looking like, for example: /TimesNewRomanPSMT 4.33691406 output-scale div selectfont 1.3657 0. /afii10079 1.1267 0. /afii10065 1.1609 0. /afii10067 3 print_glyphs It always starts with /TimesNewRomanPSMT, has X glyphs, and then finishes with X print_glyphs. Then, depending on how fancy you want to get, you can modify the bounding box to be more snug around either the text or the music. Cheers, MS___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: EPS file
Hi there, I'm not sure what you mean. If you have an EPS file and from there you wish to split up anything, just select all, "UNGROUP", and then drag/lasso-select /only/ your text; drag it onto a new page, etc. or any other approach you desire. HTH Nikolay Kirov wrote > Hello! > > I have a specific question: How to split a EPS file, producing by LilyPond > For example: > http://nikolay.kirov.be/2010/folk/td_093_1_01.eps > I would like to cut the file horizontally to obtain 2 files - one for the > text and one for the notes. > > Can anybody help me? > Nikolay > -- > Nikolay Kirov Kirov > http://www.math.bas.bg/~nkirov/ > http://nikolay.kirov.be/ > Office: (+359) 2 979 2850, 2 811 0611 > Home: (+359) 2 856 8627, 0887 198 221 > nkirov@ > > nkirov@.bas > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@ > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/EPS-file-tp146684p146685.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
EPS file
Hello! I have a specific question: How to split a EPS file, producing by LilyPond For example: http://nikolay.kirov.be/2010/folk/td_093_1_01.eps I would like to cut the file horizontally to obtain 2 files - one for the text and one for the notes. Can anybody help me? Nikolay -- Nikolay Kirov Kirov http://www.math.bas.bg/~nkirov/ http://nikolay.kirov.be/ Office: (+359) 2 979 2850, 2 811 0611 Home: (+359) 2 856 8627, 0887 198 221 nki...@nbu.bg nki...@math.bas.bg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
SoundsFromSound gmail.com> writes: > > Hi Jonathan! > > Welcome to the LilyPond community! > > Here is a list of LilyPond commands, is this what you are looking for? > > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation-big- page#lilypond-command-index > > Scroll down quite a bit and you'll see much of the syntax is indexed here > for reference. > > Good luck, > Ben That's perfect. I spent a lot of time looking through the manual pages but somehow missed that. Thank you very much! - Jonathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
Hi Jonathan! Welcome to the LilyPond community! Here is a list of LilyPond commands, is this what you are looking for? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation-big-page#lilypond-command-index Scroll down quite a bit and you'll see much of the syntax is indexed here for reference. Good luck, Ben Jonathan wrote > Hello, > > I am new to Lilypond and am THRILLED with it. > > I am interested in making a Lilypond syntax highlighter for Notepad++. > Have > the issues with the lilypond-words.el file described in > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-12/msg00345.html been > fixed? Is there any other source of syntax information that would be > helpful > that doesn't involve combing through all of the manuals? > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@ > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Notepad-lilypond-words-el-etc-tp146681p146682.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Notepad++, lilypond-words.el, etc.
Hello, I am new to Lilypond and am THRILLED with it. I am interested in making a Lilypond syntax highlighter for Notepad++. Have the issues with the lilypond-words.el file described in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-12/msg00345.html been fixed? Is there any other source of syntax information that would be helpful that doesn't involve combing through all of the manuals? Thanks, Jonathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
osia: hide first bar line on left hand of key signature
Is it possible to hide the first bar line on the left hand of the key signature when writing ossia? Or: Is it possible to get the same result like with \remove "System_start_delimiter_engraver" between some Staffs only? So as to synchronize several GrandStaffs, that are not meant to be one score. Thank you very much for your reply ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Have you considered using a Jekyll based CMS? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/moving-LilyPond-blog-to-our-website-tp146656p146679.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 10:55:38AM +0200, Janek Warcho?? wrote: > (my vote is with Wordpress, but i really have no experience apart from > last few days) Be prepared to make frequent security upgrades to WordPress/PHP if you are concerned about the security of the hosting server. In 2012, 23 Wordpress issues were reported, although some of those are disputed. http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-2337/product_id-4096/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?
Hello list! On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:23:24 +0100, Werner LEMBERG has written: > Besides a font with similar functionality as Minion, I would like to > find a font which resembles the `classical' text font used about 100 > years ago in Germany for virtually all vocal scores (see attachment). This typeface style is known as "Scotch". A high-quality, free Scotch type-family is "Old Standard". It covers a wide range of Latin, Greek and Cyrillic characters and is rather condensed. Thus, it may be close to what you are looking for. Because the family is released under the SIL Open Font Licence, it would also be possible to adjust it, if necessary (e. g. make it heavier). http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/oldstandard.html On these sites you can find two available proprietary Scotch typefaces: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ef/modern-extended/ http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/shinn/scotch-modern/ Kind regards, Joshua Krämer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:52:17PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > >>- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" > >>>it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. > >>>to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as > >>>Paul said: wait, what? > >>I don't think we've agreed anything of the sort. People have > >>requested it, but nothing more. Yes. > I have them, because I need them to upload the website. However, I > honestly don't think it's a case of just asking someone and admin > being given. As others have said, what about the load on the > server? Will there be any other effect. I'd suggest trying to > involve GP before assuming this will automatically happen. If the blog posts are being written in texinfo, then these posts would just be "news" items. Nothing strange. Write a doc patch, test with "make website", git-cl, review, etc. Or we could even skip the review and push straight to staging as long as you test with "make doc" first. If you want to write the posts in rst or markdown, then you'd want to look at a static site generator, like pelican or nikola. I've been experimenting with nikola for my own website (not uploaded yet). While you investigate those programs, you should check that they can integrate nicely with the existing website. If you don't have experience with static site generators and our website build process, ETA 20 hours to get a decent "hello world". This time includes responding to patch reviews. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilyblogTheme
My slight preference is for the "freshy" example as the text stands in greater relief to the background- easier to read; though, all are very pleasant to view.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical position of rests on a custom staff
Paul Morris writes: > dak wrote >> Yes. For things like stem directions, there may be a default callback >> which makes the decision about whether to put the stem upwards or >> downwards, and calling this fallback might trigger other typesetting >> decisions prematurely. Also, one does not get to see whether the >> ultimate direction decision was due to \voiceOne or such a tie-breaking >> callback. >> >> This may or may not be the case for rest direction, but because I was >> too lazy to double-check, I went for ly:grob-property-data. > > Ok, good to know. It sounds like if ly:grob-property-data works for a given > case, then it's the safer choice of the two. Thanks for the explanation. Well, depends on what kind of data one tries testing for. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Page formating for book layout
Thanx thats it! I ended up doing something like this top-system-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 20) (minimum-distance . 20) (padding . 0)) which seems to work ok. -steve > 2013/6/3 > >> >> Howdy! >> >> I have a set of variations (BWV 988) that I have transcribed >> and engraved >> with lilypond version 2.16.2. It is printed on both sides of the page >> and >> reads like a >> book. I have a \bookpart for each variation. Each variation starts on >> the >> left page >> and has a title and other custom \header stuff. Each variation is >> either >> on >> 2 pages or 4 pages. I want the top system on the right hand page to line >> up with >> the top system on the left page when space allows. How to do this? I >> simply >> want to set the top-margin somehow only on these pages... is this >> possible >> without >> messing up top-margin on the "title" page? Or what is the correct way to >> do this? >> >> thanx - steve >> >> > Hi Steve > > the answer is top-system-spacing > > see this example: > > \version "2.16.2" > > > \paper { > > top-system-spacing = #'((padding . 3.5)) > > } > > > \markup { \null } > > \pageBreak > > > \bookpart { > > \header { > > title = "Part 1" > > } > > \repeat unfold 100 { c1*4 } > > } > > > \bookpart { > > \header { > > title = "Part 2" > > } > > \repeat unfold 100 { d1*4 } > } > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical position of rests on a custom staff
dak wrote > Yes. For things like stem directions, there may be a default callback > which makes the decision about whether to put the stem upwards or > downwards, and calling this fallback might trigger other typesetting > decisions prematurely. Also, one does not get to see whether the > ultimate direction decision was due to \voiceOne or such a tie-breaking > callback. > > This may or may not be the case for rest direction, but because I was > too lazy to double-check, I went for ly:grob-property-data. Ok, good to know. It sounds like if ly:grob-property-data works for a given case, then it's the safer choice of the two. Thanks for the explanation. -Paul Morris -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Vertical-position-of-rests-on-a-custom-staff-tp146537p146669.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical position of rests on a custom staff
Paul Morris writes: > "To conclude the saga..." Thanks to David Kastrup's tip my function > can now automatically position all rests and their dots where they > need to be, no matter what voice they are in. Once again LilyPond can > handle just about anything. See attached file. > > I'm now curious about the difference between using > "ly:grob-property-data" and "ly:grob-property." The docs say: > > Function: ly:grob-property grob sym val > Return the value for property sym of grob. If no value is found, > return val or '() if val is not specified. > > Function: ly:grob-property-data grob sym > Return the value for property sym of grob, but do not process callbacks. > > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/internals/scheme-functions > > I assume this means that if a property is set to a function rather > than a static value, then ly:grob-property would process the function > to return a value, but ly:grob-property-data would not. Is that > right? Yes. For things like stem directions, there may be a default callback which makes the decision about whether to put the stem upwards or downwards, and calling this fallback might trigger other typesetting decisions prematurely. Also, one does not get to see whether the ultimate direction decision was due to \voiceOne or such a tie-breaking callback. This may or may not be the case for rest direction, but because I was too lazy to double-check, I went for ly:grob-property-data. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical position of rests on a custom staff
"To conclude the saga..." Thanks to David Kastrup's tip my function can now automatically position all rests and their dots where they need to be, no matter what voice they are in. Once again LilyPond can handle just about anything. See attached file. I'm now curious about the difference between using "ly:grob-property-data" and "ly:grob-property." The docs say: Function: ly:grob-property grob sym val Return the value for property sym of grob. If no value is found, return val or '() if val is not specified. Function: ly:grob-property-data grob sym Return the value for property sym of grob, but do not process callbacks. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/internals/scheme-functions I assume this means that if a property is set to a function rather than a static value, then ly:grob-property would process the function to return a value, but ly:grob-property-data would not. Is that right? Thanks again, -Paul Morris restShifter.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Janek wrote: > 1) are we going to use WordPress or something else, for example Mezzaine: I have no experience with Mezzanine, but I found this helpful comparison with WordPress from a Mezzanine users forum: http://grokbase.com/t/gg/mezzanine-users/12byf39adw/wordpress-vs-mezzanine It sounds like Mezzanine is great if you have a Python/Django developer who can administer it and especially if you want to do more than blogging with your site (i.e. web applications). On the other hand, WordPress requires less developer effort, has fewer dependencies, and works well if you just want to do a blog site (i.e. _not_ web applications). > (another option could probably be blog.lilypond.org, but i have no > idea whether that's a purely cosmetical choice or has some > implications.) One consequence here is that subdomains like "blog.lilypond.org" are treated as separate sites by search engines, and so they are ranked separately. So this splits your site content into two sites, rather than putting it all under one site. I think the latter is generally better from a "doing-well-in-search-results" (SEO) perspective. > As for the integration, i think that the blog should be accessible as > an item in the top menubar (I.e. next to Introduction, Manuals, > Download and Community). Another possibility is to have it as a sublink/subheading under "Community" and maybe also have a link from the home page where "Pondings" is. Maybe as Urs mentioned have a few recent posts listed there (possibly from a particular category?). This would be a more conservative approach. Depending on how things go, later a link to the blog could move up into the top-level navigation menu (while keeping the URLs the same). Going the other direction, you could have the top level navigation/menubar appear on all the blog pages, making it easy to get from the blog back to the rest of the site. This just requires tweaking your WordPress theme (using a "child theme" of the twentytwelve theme you're now using). That's something I've done and could help with. (I'm less help with installing PHP and the MySQL database, but I'm pretty handy customizing a WordPress site once it's up and running.) Urs Liska wrote: > The fundamental question is whether to host the blog on a 'live' (i.e. php > based) system or with a static site generator. What are the capabilities on > the lilypond.org server (wrt installed programs and performance)? This is a good question. For a blog where people can post comments and then immediately see them appear, that means dynamic rather than static. However, there are caching plugins for WordPress[1] that help with this by automatically storing a static html copy of each page and then just sending that to the web browser[2]. When a new post or comment is made, the changed pages are removed from the cache and the new version of those pages gets stored again. [1] I've used HyperCache: http://wordpress.org/plugins/hyper-cache/ http://www.satollo.net/plugins/hyper-cache [2] How it works, from one of the links above: "On each request, the cache engine is called by WordPress. It checks if the html for this request is in cache and is still valid. If so the html page is returned and everything stops. WordPress calls the cache engine BEFORE any other kind of operations, so no plugins are activated, no database connection established, no queries executed. If the page requested is not in cache, the cache engine “captures” the html produced by WordPress and puts it on file." Phil Holmes wrote: > However, I honestly don't think it's a case of just asking someone and admin > being given. As others have said, what about the load on the server? Will > there be any other effect. I'd suggest trying to involve GP before assuming > this will automatically happen. I think this is a good idea. -Paul Morris ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Janek wrote: > 1) are we going to use WordPress or something else, for example Mezzaine: I have no experience with Mezzanine, but I found this helpful comparison with WordPress from a Mezzanine users forum: http://grokbase.com/t/gg/mezzanine-users/12byf39adw/wordpress-vs-mezzanine It sounds like Mezzanine is great if you have a Python/Django developer who can administer it and especially if you want to do more than blogging with your site (i.e. web applications). On the other hand, WordPress requires less developer effort, has fewer dependencies, and works well if you just want to do a blog site (i.e. _not_ web applications). > (another option could probably be blog.lilypond.org, but i have no > idea whether that's a purely cosmetical choice or has some > implications.) One consequence here is that subdomains like "blog.lilypond.org" are treated as separate sites by search engines, and so they are ranked separately. So this splits your site content into two sites, rather than putting it all under one site. I think the latter is generally better from a "doing-well-in-search-results" (SEO) perspective. > As for the integration, i think that the blog should be accessible as > an item in the top menubar (I.e. next to Introduction, Manuals, > Download and Community). Another possibility is to have it as a sublink/subheading under "Community" and maybe also have a link from the home page where "Pondings" is. Maybe as Urs mentioned have a few recent posts listed there (possibly from a particular category?). This would be a more conservative approach. Depending on how things go, later a link to the blog could move up into the top-level navigation menu (while keeping the URLs the same). Going the other direction, you could have the top level navigation/menubar appear on all the blog pages, making it easy to get from the blog back to the rest of the site. This just requires tweaking your WordPress theme (using a "child theme" of the twentytwelve theme you're now using). That's something I've done and could help with. (I'm less help with installing PHP and the MySQL database, but I'm pretty handy customizing a WordPress site once it's up and running.) Urs Liska wrote: > The fundamental question is whether to host the blog on a 'live' (i.e. php > based) system or with a static site generator. What are the capabilities on > the lilypond.org server (wrt installed programs and performance)? This is a good question. For a blog where people can post comments and then immediately see them appear, that means dynamic rather than static. However, there are caching plugins for WordPress[1] that help with this by automatically storing a static html copy of each page and then just sending that to the web browser[2]. When a new post or comment is made, the changed pages are removed from the cache and the new version of those pages gets stored again. [1] I've used HyperCache: http://wordpress.org/plugins/hyper-cache/ http://www.satollo.net/plugins/hyper-cache [2] How it works, from one of the links above: "On each request, the cache engine is called by WordPress. It checks if the html for this request is in cache and is still valid. If so the html page is returned and everything stops. WordPress calls the cache engine BEFORE any other kind of operations, so no plugins are activated, no database connection established, no queries executed. If the page requested is not in cache, the cache engine “captures” the html produced by WordPress and puts it on file." Phil Holmes wrote: > However, I honestly don't think it's a case of just asking someone and admin > being given. As others have said, what about the load on the server? Will > there be any other effect. I'd suggest trying to involve GP before assuming > this will automatically happen. I think this is a good idea. -Paul Morris ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Am 04.06.2013 10:55, schrieb Janek Warchoł: If we go for WordPress, Jacques Menu showed a starting point. Jacques, i count on your help as well! :) There is no way i could do this alone. 2013/6/3 Jacques Menu : Hello, I've switched from CMS Made Simple (lives up to its name) to WordPress for its power and rich set of plugins. Using 3.5.1 and a child of the new twentytwelve template makes browsing on phones and templates much more practical (you can check with http://gioiacantar.ch). You'll need: - write FTP access to the folder hosting the site; - a dedicated MySQL database; - PHP activated; - ability to run cron tasks. Installing WordPress is a one click operation. Don't forget to remove install.php and readme.html for security when it's done. To backup the site, export the database structure and data, which is easily done with cron, and rsync the folder contents elsewhere. In theory I can offer to host that on my webspace. I (still) have enough storage available, can set up a ftp access point restricted to the blog, have PHP and MySQL and also can run cron jobs. I can't guarantee this to be a permanent offer, but as it seems it should be possible to move the site if necessary. I'm not sure though if/how it's possible to transparently redirect the browsers from lilypond.org so it looks like being hosted on lilypond.org/blog or blog.lilypond.org. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Federico Bruni" ; "LilyPond Users" ; "Jacques Menu" ; "Paul Morris" ; "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" ; "David Kastrup" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website Hi, 2013/6/4 Phil Holmes : - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as Paul said: I don't think we've agreed anything of the sort. People have requested it, but nothing more. I apologize if that sounded like i'm trying to enforce something. That's not my intention; i'd just like to get things done asap (and i don't imagine why anyone would oppose moving the blog to our website). Who is going to get admin permission on lilypond.org to administer this? I can if that's necessary. How do i get them, and is there anyone who has them already? best, Janek I have them, because I need them to upload the website. However, I honestly don't think it's a case of just asking someone and admin being given. As others have said, what about the load on the server? Will there be any other effect. I'd suggest trying to involve GP before assuming this will automatically happen. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Hi, 2013/6/4 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" >> it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. >> to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as >> Paul said: > > I don't think we've agreed anything of the sort. People have requested it, > but nothing more. I apologize if that sounded like i'm trying to enforce something. That's not my intention; i'd just like to get things done asap (and i don't imagine why anyone would oppose moving the blog to our website). > Who is going to get admin permission on lilypond.org to > administer this? I can if that's necessary. How do i get them, and is there anyone who has them already? best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Am 04.06.2013 11:24, schrieb Urs Liska: I think I'd prefer lilypond.org/blog because it's consistent with the other menu entries. But a subdomain could be more straightforward when it comes to running a live web application. A subdomain can also be transparently mapped to another service provider if the lilypond.org server doesn't provide the necessary infrastructure. Am 04.06.2013 11:21, schrieb Phil Holmes: Who is going to get admin permission on lilypond.org to administer this? Mapping blog.lilypond.org to another server/provider could also be useful for this issue. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
Am 04.06.2013 10:55, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Hi all, it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. to be hosted on lilypond.org), Makes sense to move away from a commercial provider. and we're doing it asap, because as Paul said: Installing WordPress is a one click operation. Don't forget to remove install.php and readme.html for security when it's done. To backup the site, export the database structure and data, which is easily done with cron, and rsync the folder contents elsewhere. Please discuss! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user 2013/6/4 Paul Morris : people will link to it, and the longer you wait to move it, the more broken links you create +1. There already are links which will be broken. As i see it, there are a few decisions we have to make: 1) are we going to use WordPress or something else, for example Mezzaine: 2013/6/3 Federico Bruni : Another option could be Mezzanine, a CMS based on Django which has many built-in features (including blogging). Considering that many lilypond developers know python, it could be a wise choice in case we need to hack on it. Mezzanine has some scripts to import from other CMS (Wordpress included): http://mezzanine.jupo.org/docs/blog-importing.html ? (my vote is with Wordpress, but i really have no experience apart from last few days) The fundamental question is whether to host the blog on a 'live' (i.e. php based) system or with a static site generator. What are the capabilities on the lilypond.org server (wrt installed programs and performance)? lilypond.org is (currently) a statically served web site. I think using a static site generator isn't really an option because any update would have to be compiled and uploaded by someone with the necessary write access. But we first should know whether lilypond.org actually can serve a Django or PHP based site. WordPress seems to be a quite 'big' application so there would be much overhead. OTOH the fact that it is quite comfortable to use makes it a good choice when we actually want to use it (and not to be busy configuring and maintaining it). Of course Python would be a good thing, but PHP isn't hard to hack either. 2) what the precise address/location should be? Paul suggests: 2013/6/4 Paul Morris : Ideally it could be at www.lilypond.org/blog/ on the lilypond.org domain and to some extent integrated into the main LilyPond website. (i.e. make it easy to navigate back and forth between the two sites seamlessly) (another option could probably be blog.lilypond.org, but i have no idea whether that's a purely cosmetical choice or has some implications.) I think I'd prefer lilypond.org/blog because it's consistent with the other menu entries. But a subdomain could be more straightforward when it comes to running a live web application. A subdomain can also be transparently mapped to another service provider if the lilypond.org server doesn't provide the necessary infrastructure. As for the integration, i think that the blog should be accessible as an item in the top menubar (I.e. next to Introduction, Manuals, Download and Community). +1 We could also modify the "Pondings" box to point to the newest or a random blog post (of the 'productions' category). (That's a redundancy anyway, and if we host the blog on lilypond.org we should sort it out). If we go for WordPress, Jacques Menu showed a starting point. Jacques, i count on your help as well! :) There is no way i could do this alone. 2013/6/3 Jacques Menu : Hello, I've switched from CMS Made Simple (lives up to its name) to WordPress for its power and rich set of plugins. Using 3.5.1 and a child of the new twentytwelve template makes browsing on phones and templates much more practical (you can check with http://gioiacantar.ch). You'll need: - write FTP access to the folder hosting the site; - a dedicated MySQL database; - PHP activated; - ability to run cron tasks. As mentioned above this would be crucial. So someone involved in the hosting should check and clarify . Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: moving LilyPond blog to our website
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" To: "Federico Bruni" ; "LilyPond Users" ; "Jacques Menu" ; "Paul Morris" ; "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" ; "David Kastrup" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:55 AM Subject: moving LilyPond blog to our website Hi all, it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as Paul said: I don't think we've agreed anything of the sort. People have requested it, but nothing more. Who is going to get admin permission on lilypond.org to administer this? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
moving LilyPond blog to our website
Hi all, it seems to be decided that we're moving the blog to our website (i.e. to be hosted on lilypond.org), and we're doing it asap, because as Paul said: 2013/6/4 Paul Morris : > people will link to it, and the longer you wait to move it, > the more broken links you create So, 2013/6/4 Paul Morris : > If you have questions about WordPress or need advice or help with it, I have > set up and administered a handful of sites with it. (i.e. not on > wordpress.com...) Great! I definitely need help&advice - i don't have time to figure out details on my own :( As i see it, there are a few decisions we have to make: 1) are we going to use WordPress or something else, for example Mezzaine: 2013/6/3 Federico Bruni : > Another option could be Mezzanine, a CMS based on Django which has many > built-in features (including blogging). > Considering that many lilypond developers know python, it could be a wise > choice in case we need to hack on it. > Mezzanine has some scripts to import from other CMS (Wordpress included): > http://mezzanine.jupo.org/docs/blog-importing.html ? (my vote is with Wordpress, but i really have no experience apart from last few days) 2) what the precise address/location should be? Paul suggests: 2013/6/4 Paul Morris : > Ideally it could be at www.lilypond.org/blog/ on the lilypond.org domain and > to some extent integrated into the main LilyPond website. (i.e. make it > easy to navigate back and forth between the two sites seamlessly) (another option could probably be blog.lilypond.org, but i have no idea whether that's a purely cosmetical choice or has some implications.) As for the integration, i think that the blog should be accessible as an item in the top menubar (I.e. next to Introduction, Manuals, Download and Community). If we go for WordPress, Jacques Menu showed a starting point. Jacques, i count on your help as well! :) There is no way i could do this alone. 2013/6/3 Jacques Menu : > Hello, > > I've switched from CMS Made Simple (lives up to its name) to WordPress for > its power and rich set of plugins. > > Using 3.5.1 and a child of the new twentytwelve template makes browsing on > phones and templates much more practical (you can check with > http://gioiacantar.ch). > > You'll need: > - write FTP access to the folder hosting the site; > - a dedicated MySQL database; > - PHP activated; > - ability to run cron tasks. > > Installing WordPress is a one click operation. Don't forget to remove > install.php and readme.html for security when it's done. > > To backup the site, export the database structure and data, which is easily > done with cron, and rsync the folder contents elsewhere. Please discuss! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user