Re: Bar lines in 2.19.0
Mike Solomon m...@mikesolomon.org writes: Hey all, On 2.19.0, when I do: \relative c' { f1 \bar | f1 \bar . g1 \bar || a1 \bar .| b1 \bar .|. c1 \bar |.| d1 \bar |. e1 \bar |: f1 \bar :|” } I get the attached result, which leaves out several bar lines that should normally be printing. Any ideas what’s going on? Yes. And so would convert-ly. I am not proud that I have not managed to get the original authors into writing support for backward-compatible aliases (a resource problem mostly, if I understood correctly), nor did I manage to do so myself (a resource problem mostly). -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar lines in 2.19.0
Am 13.11.2013 10:30, schrieb Mike Solomon: Hey all, On 2.19.0, when I do: \relative c' { f1 \bar | f1 \bar . g1 \bar || a1 \bar .| b1 \bar .|. c1 \bar |.| d1 \bar |. e1 \bar |: f1 \bar :|” } I get the attached result, which leaves out several bar lines that should normally be printing. Any ideas what’s going on? That's due to the 'new' bar line interface I developed during and shortly after the Waltrop meeting 2012 – convert-ly is your friend, I think ;-) Marc Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.16.2 failing to install on ubuntu 12.10
+1 for Frescobaldi. It should be in your repo, though I'm not sure it's the most recent version. Welcome to the community! Ben Link -- http://frescobaldi.org/ Colin Campbell-8 wrote On 11/12/2013 07:11 PM, JordanB. wrote: I would appreciate any help in this matter: I was able to download lilypond, and ran sh lilypond-2.16.2-OS-TYPE.sh in the shell. The bin directory was created, and and the 12 shell script files (lilypond, lilypond-wrapper, etc.). That's it, however. How do I run lilypond from this point? Am I missing something obvious? I'm kind of a newbie to linux, so I wouldn't be surprised if I was. Thanks! On Linux, you can run lilypond from a terminal (shell). To verify that lilypond was installed, you just enter lilypond -v without the quotes. The result should be confirmation that the program was findable by linux. You can then compile your lilypond source files by entering, e.g. lilypond foo.ly, which would process a lilypond file named foo and produce a .PDF of the result. Much more comfortable to those coming from more gui-centric systems, would be to install a package such as Frescobaldi (my lilypond editor of choice) or one of the others mentioned on our website, under Easier Editing. These editors can call lilypond for you, without you needing a terminal shell. The rest of the website, particularly the Learning Manual, will greatly repay the time spent in reviewing and working through examples, as well Finally, welcome to the LilyPond community! When all else fails, feel free to come back here with the smallest example which shows a problem, and we'll see what we can do with it. Cheers, Colin -- A good juggler can always find work. - attributed to L. Pacioli (1445 - 1517) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/lilypond-2-16-2-failing-to-install-on-ubuntu-12-10-tp153831p153846.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: export to musescore
On 11/13/2013 12:00 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: On 11/12/2013 09:40 AM, Urs Liska wrote: the way to go would be MusicXML export. While this wish has popped up every now and then for years, Peter Bjuhr has just started to give it an actual try. We don't know how far this will get, but it will at least be a start for this very important improvement. When we've sorted out the options and have something like a roadmap we'll post about it again. I'd like to add that the actual development is partly taking place in the development version of Frescobaldi, perhaps someone has seen the menu element there and wondered. It's still very basic and limited so I would definitely hesitate to promote any real use of it besides for testing purposes. Maybe I should also clarify that the roadmap Urs is writing about is for a LilyPond export and not just for Frescobaldi users. We hope to get back with more info about this soon... Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: So, slashed beamed grace notes...
2013/11/13 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com: I've worked on this a bit more, and come up with the attached file. This version takes the beam angle into consideration, so the wings of the slash are handled better. Looks very nice, thanks a lot! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar numbers position
Keith OHara wrote In the file scm/define-grobs.scm that is part of the distributed LilyPond, there is a comment just before the setting that determines where the bar number should go ;; want the bar number before the clef at line start. (break-align-symbols . (left-edge staff-bar)) indicating that some thought went into the choice, which might indicate that the choice was not obvious. Thanks for sharing this information; as you say, it indeed shows that there was some thought behind this decision. Keith OHara wrote It is the (unavoidably?) complicated method for setting objects on things that might be line-breaks. \override Score.BarNumber #'break-align-symbols = #'(left-edge) % or maybe you prefer #'(staff-bar clef) \override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT \override Score.Clef #'break-align-anchor-alignment = #LEFT Well, I don't think this is particularly complicated. Maybe it would be interesting to add some example to the snippet repository, which might be useful to other users who might be interested on this. This is how I usually write my bar numbers: bar_numbers_(italic,_small,_to_the_right).ly http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153853/bar_numbers_%28italic%2C_small%2C_to_the_right%29.ly And I will add this code to the repository later. Thanks for your reply and take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bar-numbers-position-tp153274p153853.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar lines in 2.19.0
Where is LilyPond version 2.19? I didn't think 2.18 was even released yet. Mike Solomon wrote Hey all, On 2.19.0, when I do: \relative c' { f1 \bar | f1 \bar . g1 \bar || a1 \bar .| b1 \bar .|. c1 \bar |.| d1 \bar |. e1 \bar |: f1 \bar :|” } I get the attached result, which leaves out several bar lines that should normally be printing. Any ideas what’s going on? Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user PastedGraphic-1.pdf (28K) lt;http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/153841/0/PastedGraphic-1.pdfgt; - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bar-lines-in-2-19-0-tp153841p153854.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar lines in 2.19.0
On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:45 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: Where is LilyPond version 2.19? I didn't think 2.18 was even released yet. That’s where current master is on the git branch. Cheers, MS___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: Hi guys.. I would want to make a simple function that would convert my string to number..wha? i have a a variable inside header that is called bpm. inside bpm is my tempo but in string. Why? for example: \header { bpm = 123 } { \tempo 4 = \bpm c'4 } or in midi block \midi { \tempo 4 = \bpm } i had an idea of converting string to number using string-number.. #(define bpm 123) #(define bpmInt (string-number bpm) Missing closing paren, it would seem. but it didnt work nor bpmInt = #(define-music-function (parser location bpm (string?) (string-number bpm))) The body of define-music-function needs to return music, so you probably would want define-scheme-function instead. any ideas.? I have no idea why you don't just write bpm = 123 and that's that. Why go through a string in the first place? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
ok.. i would want to insert the tempo one time..inside the header block..and that it would apply to other tempo variables.. \header { bpm = 123 } \relative c' { \tempo = \bpm %the header bpm variable c'4 } till now i didnt create any scheme function successfully..:P On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:11 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: header won't display numbers..i'm using lastest development version.. [unedited useless fullquote below deleted] Please try harder to explain the problem, preferably with a minimal example, or at the very least responding to the individual suggestions with the details of why they don't work for you. When someone goes to the pain of writing up an elaborate answer with details for each cited problem, the above one-line reply does not suggest you are taking this seriously. -- David Kastrup -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: ok.. i would want to insert the tempo one time..inside the header block..and that it would apply to other tempo variables.. \header { bpm = 123 } \relative c' { \tempo = \bpm %the header bpm variable c'4 } First: it is impossible to guess what you want here since \tempo = 123 would not be a valid command, and neither would be \tempo = 123. Second: why do you have bpm defined inside of \header? Header variables are not visible in the score. I just tried bpm = 123 \relative c' { \tempo 4 = \bpm %the header bpm variable c'4 } and found out that variables are not permitted in this place. Which is probably an oversight rather than anything intentional. Feel free to file a bug report. It might be quite simpler, however, just to write bpm = \tempo 4 = 123 \relative c' { \bpm c'4 } And can you _please_ _please_ _please_ stop appending the whole thing you are replying to at the bottom of your mails? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: So..any idea how i could achive it..?! I wanted to use my little knowlidge to write a simple scheme function that could achive it..with no succsess.. You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the bottom of URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
Try putting bpm = \tempo 4 = 123 in the header.. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: So..any idea how i could achive it..?! I wanted to use my little knowlidge to write a simple scheme function that could achive it..with no succsess.. You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the bottom of URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html . -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
2013/11/13 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes: So..any idea how i could achive it..?! I wanted to use my little knowlidge to write a simple scheme function that could achive it..with no succsess.. You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the bottom of URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html. I think i understand what this is about. Stjepan would like to have the tempo value used both in header as well as in actual tempo definition. It is possible to define a variable and use it in the header: trololo = 123 \header { title = #(string-append bang! (number-string trololo) foobars in a bottle) } The problem is, as David already noticed, that a variable cannot be used in \tempo command: { % this crashes: \tempo 4 = \trololo c' } Stjepan, is this what you mean? Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
2013/11/13 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com: Yes..this is exactly what i mean.. Good! But please be careful about quoting original messages. Don't let gmail do whatever it's doing by default, because it's not the right thing. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: string-number scheme
Ok..and Thank You.. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.comwrote: So, to answer David's question: 2013/11/13 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the bottom of URL: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html. This is not doing what Stjepan wants because he cannot use \bpm as a value for a header field. See this bug: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3658 I believe that to solve Stjepan's problem we'd have to solve this bug. best, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Horizontal alignment of MetronomeMarks
-Original Message- From: Keith OHara [mailto:k-ohara5...@oco.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:15 AM To: Kieren MacMillan; Daniel Rosen Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List Subject: Re: Horizontal alignment of MetronomeMarks Now that I am looking for it, I do notice that tempo marks seem to align on the first note when there is one, otherwise the barline. LilyPond is set up to do that (using the messy code that I was recently complaining about) by setting the two priority-lists for placement of the tempo marks as follows: \override Score.MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(time-signature staff-bar) \override Score.MetronomeMark #'non-break-align-symbols = #'(note-column-interface multi-measure-rest-interface paper-column- interface) Maybe that should be the default. I think it absolutely should. DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
notation reference query
Hi folks, I'm a new user making a foray into Lilypond and I am in the process of scouring the learning manual/notation reference to become acquainted with the application (v2.17.95). I had a small query in regards to the appendices detailing articulation and ornamentation. I was looking at the code snippets that supposedly list all available articulations, but the snippet simply refers to script-chart.ly. As I am a totally blind musician, I cannot make inference based on the image provided in the notation reference itself and wondered where script-chart.ly might be located which would contain a complete list of articulations. any assistance someone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Hayden ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: notation reference query
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:18 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Hayden Smith haydenpi...@gmail.com writes: I cannot make inference based on the image provided in the notation reference itself and wondered where script-chart.ly might be located which would contain a complete list of articulations. In the LilyPond directory hierarchy, it is in Documentation/included/script-chart.ly No idea whether it will be helpful for you, but I'm not sure what would be helpful. -- David Kastrup Given that this is the second time in recent memory that this specific issue has come up, probably what would be helpful is if the reference tables were not presented as monolithic output images but as text-based tables with individual images for each item being referenced. I am not familiar enough with the documentation side of development to know how easy this would be to implement. Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: notation reference query
This is no help, but see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1189 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cluster function
Has anyone had success making clusters such as in the attached image? This is not possible with the builtin \makeClusters function which removes stems, beams, accidentals, etc. Ideally code something like cis' ais''8. \cluster c' ais''8. to produce this example. If not, any ideas as to where to start with such a function? I suppose I just need to get the positions of the two noteheads and draw a thick line in between. Many thanks, Mark -- Mark Knoop attachment: cluster.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cluster function
On 11/13/2013 08:43 PM, Mark Knoop wrote: Has anyone had success making clusters such as in the attached image? This is not possible with the builtin \makeClusters function which removes stems, beams, accidentals, etc. Ideally code something like cis' ais''8. \cluster c' ais''8. to produce this example. If not, any ideas as to where to start with such a function? I suppose I just need to get the positions of the two noteheads and draw a thick line in between. Have you seen this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-10/msg00555.html Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cluster function
Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net writes: Has anyone had success making clusters such as in the attached image? This is not possible with the builtin \makeClusters function which removes stems, beams, accidentals, etc. Ideally code something like cis' ais''8. \cluster c' ais''8. to produce this example. If not, any ideas as to where to start with such a function? I suppose I just need to get the positions of the two noteheads and draw a thick line in between. Well, I would have tried \new Staff { \accidentalStyle forget cis' ais'8. cis' ais'8. \makeClusters c' ais'8. } but the result still leaves something to be desired... -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Blues/jazz/rubato tempo markings in printed scores
Searching the archives, I found the thread “jazz quantization of eighths for MIDI” http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/17489, linking to http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=687, all relating to adjusting MIDI output. Is there a way to *print* a tempo marking for such a rhythm, though? One score I’ve seen uses a tempo marking that looks like this: ⌐3¬ Blues feel (♫ = ♩ ♪) I was thinking to adapt the technique from http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=574, but the \note command seems to support neither beamed notes nor tuplets. Is there something in the manual that will make the answer obvious once I understand it, or is this something difficult to achieve? —Joel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Blues/jazz/rubato tempo markings in printed scores
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Joel C. Salomon joelcsalo...@gmail.comwrote: Searching the archives, I found the thread “jazz quantization of eighths for MIDI” http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/17489, linking to http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=687, all relating to adjusting MIDI output. Is there a way to *print* a tempo marking for such a rhythm, though? One score I’ve seen uses a tempo marking that looks like this: ⌐3¬ Blues feel (♫ = ♩ ♪) I was thinking to adapt the technique from http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=574, but the \note command seems to support neither beamed notes nor tuplets. Is there something in the manual that will make the answer obvious once I understand it, or is this something difficult to achieve? This snippet may help you: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204 Regards, Nathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Blues/jazz/rubato tempo markings in printed scores
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Nathan when.possi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Joel C. Salomon joelcsalo...@gmail.com wrote: ⌐3¬ Blues feel (♫ = ♩ ♪) This snippet may help you: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204 Thank you; that's what I was looking for. —Joel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fermata and phrasing slurs
Gagi Petrovic wrote Dear group, as can be seen in the added example, something seems off. Is this a known issue? please be specific about what you feel is wrong! Additionally, does anyone have any pointers how to work around this? In other words: how can i still force the TextScript to be under the longer versions of fermata? you can get full control over the vertical positioning of grobs (and spanners) by specifying the outside-staff-priority of each object, eg: \version 2.17.95 mus={ c2 ^( ^\fermata ^text c) } { \override Slur.outside-staff-priority=#999 \once { \override Script.outside-staff-priority=0 \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority=1 } \mus \once { \override Script.outside-staff-priority=1 \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority=0 } \mus } maybe you'll want to \shape the slur, too hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/fermata-and-phrasing-slurs-tp153872p153892.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fermata and phrasing slurs
Hi Eluze, thank you. And i'm sorry, i thought it was clear in the example. To be more specific: When using \longfermata and \verylongfermata the overrides i used, get ignored. The TextScript is placed above the Script, instead of the other way around, like it does with \fermata. (this can be seen in the screenshot) I tried your method (see below), but it still doesn't work correctly. Now the text is nicely placed under all the fermata, but i don't understand why the slur isn't placed above them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. All the best, Gagi \version2.16.1 \relative c''{ \override Slur#' outside-staff-priority = 999 \override Script#' outside-staff-priority = 1 \override TextScript#' outside-staff-priority = 0 \phrasingSlurUp d2^test^\fermata\( b4 c\) d2^test^\longfermata\( b4 c\) d2^test^\verylongfermata\( b4 c\) } On 13 November 2013 22:52, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Gagi Petrovic wrote Dear group, as can be seen in the added example, something seems off. Is this a known issue? please be specific about what you feel is wrong! Additionally, does anyone have any pointers how to work around this? In other words: how can i still force the TextScript to be under the longer versions of fermata? you can get full control over the vertical positioning of grobs (and spanners) by specifying the outside-staff-priority of each object, eg: \version 2.17.95 mus={ c2 ^( ^\fermata ^text c) } { \override Slur.outside-staff-priority=#999 \once { \override Script.outside-staff-priority=0 \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority=1 } \mus \once { \override Script.outside-staff-priority=1 \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority=0 } \mus } maybe you'll want to \shape the slur, too hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/fermata-and-phrasing-slurs-tp153872p153892.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fermata and phrasing slurs
Gagi Petrovic wrote I tried your method (see below), but it still doesn't work correctly. Now the text is nicely placed under all the fermata, but i don't understand why the slur isn't placed above them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ugh - sorry i didn't explicitly mention I used a simple slur and not a phrasing slur - does it work like that?! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/fermata-and-phrasing-slurs-tp153872p153894.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Gmail and quotes
From David K.: Gmail's default setting is _not_ to secretly append all of an old posting to your new mail. Actually, the default behavior in gmail's web interface is very close to appending the quote secretly. It used to show the quote, but now reply gives you an almost completely empty frame for the message body, with a small ... icon at the bottom left. The user has to remember to click on this button in order to edit the quoted text. This interface improvement also effectively enforces top-posting: it takes extra effort to post replies in the middle of quotes (like a conversation) and most people don't care. For that matter, most people don't even know what top-posting is... they just do it because gmail, Outlook etc put the cursor at the top for them and Microsoft knows better than I do (rolling eyes heavenward). Unfortunately, this will only get worse. The trend is to make computers seem easier to use, not by preventing users from making mistakes, but by hiding mistakes from users. hjh ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in pandoc (md/rst)?
Am 2013-11-13 um 12:50 schrieb Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: Il 13/nov/2013 06:42 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net ha scritto: do you know of any existing extension for pandoc (or multimarkdown) to integrate LilyPond into markdown (or restructured text)? A quick googling didn’t show anything promising. There is a sphinx plugin for lilypond. You can find it on bitbucket. Sphinx uses restructured text Thank you for the hint, it’s at https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx-contrib but … lilypond: an extension inserting music scripts from Lilypond in PNG format.“ … it only inserts bitmaps, even if sphinx can also create PDF via LaTeX. I was aiming for „usable“ PDF output - sorry, didn’t make clear. It was just a thought anyway; I guess I’ll stay with my ConTeXt-LilyPond workflow. Or I manage to combine ConTeXt’s markdown and LilyPond processing somehow. (Since it’s not a priority for me, it’ll probably never happen.) Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Gmail and quotes
This interface improvement also effectively enforces top-posting: it takes extra effort to post replies in the middle of quotes (like a conversation) and most people don't care. I am in the e-mail world for some decades. It was always a good style to write the answer on top of all other text and to not delete anything that has written before. This makes it easy to save one late copy of the e-mail conversation and more important to invite more people to the conversation by extending the CC list. The Gmail interface support this usable behavior of the user with this improvement. Mailing lists use the e-mail transport mechanism to build a community. Here you have invited everybody who has subscribed to the list. We just use the medium to have something like a forum without using a dedicated tool. The pros and cons of e.g. Stackoverflow have been discussed before. The technical mean what would fit best would have been the usenet, but that's dead. Finally we use e-mail in a way different from the mainstream. So we will have to live with improvements that doesn't fit with our requirements. Regards Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user