Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:

 2014-04-06 11:39 GMT+02:00 Karol Majewski karo...@wp.pl:
 Thanks Harm.

 In SpanBar-Dynamics conflict I still prefer whiteout over
 DynamicText.extra-spacing-width = ##f. The only problem is that
 sometimes whiteout box does not cover the whole barline
 width. Function I'm asking for would allow to control the width of
 whiteout box.

 Hi Karol,

 below the revised function.
 'moreWhiteout' takes one optional and two normal arguments:
 Specifying whether the stencil should be boxed (boolean), which grob
 (string) and the values to extent the stencil.

We could do this kind of whitening-out at least in the PostScript
backend (and consequently, PDF and PNG): you can convert characters into
filled paths and then stroke them with a circular pencil.  However, we
don't get any metrics back from the backend, so this would not be useful
for positioning, only for whiteout behind already positioned items.  And
I don't know what capabilities SVG would have here, if at all.

But it would likely be the graphically most convincing solution short of
creating our own skyline padder.  Which is also quite feasible, would be
backend independent, but a bit of work.

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Peter Toye
Phil,

I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the 
form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form 
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to 
the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name 
been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point 
to the server.

The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that 
I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an 
oversight?

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the original 
HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing 
the style sheet and all the images.

--
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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the 
table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web 
site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local 
copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com 

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Re: transposing cues

2014-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com writes:

 On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 08:49:50AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com writes:
 
  Now how can I write a clarinet part that goes back and forth 
  between Bb and A and get the cues transposed correcly?
 
 URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#index-transposition_002c-instrument
 
 Second example.

 My apologies for poor statement of the question!  The above I am quite 
 familiar with.

 I think your answer to my previous question about transposing cues 
 will solve my problem with some work on my part.  The following 
 modification of the documented example may or may not illustrate my 
 need.  I actually now have an untransposed (concert pitch) 
 clarinet part with cues that I want to make into a clarinet part where 
 each section can be played on the clarinet that is easiest.

Sorry, but that's totally obfuscate.  You are inputting some stuff in B,
inputting some stuff in A, juggling around and transposing stuff.  It is
not clear what instruments should be playing the stuff in the end for
what reason.

When you _quote_ music, its \transpose setting is considered in the
quote.  Quotes refer to concert pitch.

When you put stuff in variables without knowing what transposition they
are supposed to be used for, don't put a \transpose statement into the
variable.  Instead, specify the \transpose where you actually know what
instrument you are playing.

 The last flute cue is not transposed correctly which I guess 
 is answered by your previous answer.

So what are you aiming for?  You have the answer, know what you are
supposed to do but would like somebody else to do it?

I don't get it.  Or at least I hope so.

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Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Br. Samuel Springuel rpspring...@gmail.com writes:

 Sorry if this is a double, but I hit the wrong reply button on the
 first one.

 On 2014-04-03 8:44 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
 It would appear that the above code using subprocess.Popen will most
 likely make lilypond-book hang on Windows for essentially unknown
 reasons.  Any idea what your Python version is?

 The conversation seems to have moved beyond this, but LilyPond
 delivered Python 2.4.5 on my machine.

Try with the just released LilyPond 2.19.4.  If that's more successful,
we'll port the fix to 2.18.

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Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels

David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 10:22 AM

 Try with the just released LilyPond 2.19.4.  If that's more successful,
 we'll port the fix to 2.18.

Just to confirm, lilypond-book in 2.19.4 works fine here. I.e. no change
in the parts I use from 2.19.3 AFAICS.

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Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:

 David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 10:22 AM

 Try with the just released LilyPond 2.19.4.  If that's more successful,
 we'll port the fix to 2.18.

 Just to confirm, lilypond-book in 2.19.4 works fine here. I.e. no change
 in the parts I use from 2.19.3 AFAICS.

No change would be not what we were aiming for with regard to LaTeX
output.

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Re: LilyPond-Book on Windows

2014-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels

David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 11:20 AM


 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
 
 David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 10:22 AM

 Try with the just released LilyPond 2.19.4.  If that's more successful,
 we'll port the fix to 2.18.

 Just to confirm, lilypond-book in 2.19.4 works fine here. I.e. no change
 in the parts I use from 2.19.3 AFAICS.
 
 No change would be not what we were aiming for with regard to LaTeX
 output.

Indeed, but that's for someone else to check - I don't use LaTeX.  I was
merely confirming the change did not break anything for me.

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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels

David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 12:54 AM

 Well, here's something rough which appears to do the trick.
 
 The basic idea is that the function locates a PaperColumn that is related
 to both our MetronomeMark grob and an AccidentalPlacement grob.  If it
 finds it, it calculates the extent of all the accidentals and sets X-offset
 based on this.
 
 Hope this helps.  Let me know if you run into problems with it.

That looks pretty good to me, thanks David.

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Re: Column shift for 2nd interval

2014-04-07 Thread Benjamin Fluehr
Let me clarify this with an example. The 'f' and 'g' are in separate
voices, but I'd like them to be drawn closer together (see attached image).
What is the easiest way to do this? (Note that I have entire scores on
which I'd like this effect).

\version  2.18.0

\score {
  \new Staff 
\clef bass
\new Voice = tenor {
  \voiceOne
  g2 g
}
\new Voice = bass {
  \voiceTwo
  e2 f
}
  
}

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff \omit Flag \omit Stem
  }
}
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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel Rosen
 -Original Message-
 From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk]
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 6:43 AM
 To: David Nalesnik
 Cc: Daniel Rosen; lilypond-user
 Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
 
 
 David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 12:54 AM
 
  Well, here's something rough which appears to do the trick.
 
  The basic idea is that the function locates a PaperColumn that is
  related to both our MetronomeMark grob and an AccidentalPlacement
  grob.  If it finds it, it calculates the extent of all the accidentals
  and sets X-offset based on this.
 
  Hope this helps.  Let me know if you run into problems with it.
 
 That looks pretty good to me, thanks David.
 
 Trevor

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Phil Holmes
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the 
#location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is 
pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the 
developers.

--
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

  I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the 
form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form 
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to 
the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name 
been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point 
to the server.

  The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason 
that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an 
oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


   So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the 
original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated 
files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


 How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, 
you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images.

  --
  Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

  I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and 
the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the 
LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer 
to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or 
possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

  The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?

Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find
that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page
that the link is pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue
with the developers.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are
of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to
point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had
the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the
link would have to point to the server.

The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some
reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server.
Or is it an oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the
original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated
files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be
missing the style sheet and all the images.

  --
  Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the
links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to
the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the
main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the
internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit
confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

   The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
notation-big-page# of course.
I _hate_ autocompletion that thinks to know netter ...

Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org schrieb am 07.04.2014:
Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?

Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find
that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page
that the link is pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue
with the developers.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are
of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to
point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all,
had
the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the
link would have to point to the server.

The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some
reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the
server.
Or is it an oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the
original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated
files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll
be
missing the style sheet and all the images.

  --
  Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the
links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer
to
the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the
main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the
internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit
confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

   The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and
internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Phil Holmes
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsOf course it is.  It's the page and the anchor.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?


  Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and 
identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with 
the developers.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

  I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of 
the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form 
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to 
the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name 
been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point 
to the server.

  The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some 
reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is 
it an oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


   So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In 
the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the 
associated files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


 How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, 
you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images.

  --
  Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

  I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, 
and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to 
the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text 
refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow 
(or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

  The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and 
internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
But a page without extension?

Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsOf course it is.  It's the page and
the anchor.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?


  Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor,
and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue
with the developers.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are
of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to
point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had
the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the
link would have to point to the server.

The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some
reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server.
Or is it an oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the
original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated
files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be
missing the style sheet and all the images.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the
links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to
the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the
main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the
internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit
confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

   The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
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  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Re; Pdf of Manuals

2014-04-07 Thread info
I only clicked on Download and yes it opened or tried to open it in the 
browser.  There was no other response.

Jay

On 2014-04-06 21:55, Nick Payne wrote:

On 07/04/14 10:16, i...@soundand.com wrote:
I was interested in this too but when i go to download it I get an 
image in my browser that i needed to download Adobe Reader 9x while I 
have 10x already and I got nowhere so How does one get around this 
problem?


Sounds like your browser is trying to open it in the browser rather
than download it...


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Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Peter Toye
Phil,

I have, but it's interesting. FF support point out that if there's a file name 
it's turned into a reference to the file on the server. This makes sense to me. 
FF doesn't check if the file name is the same as the one being viewed.

If I save the first page of the Notation manual (I've not tried the others yet, 
but I doubt if they're different) in IE or Opera all of the links are changed 
to point to the LP website. It's only Firefox which recognises local links and 
keeps them local, and also saves the relevant files. Neither Opera nor IE save 
anything but the stylesheet and JS files.

Is there anyone here who can try it out with other browsers, or confirm my own 
experience?

Best regards,

Peter
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www.ptoye.com

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Monday, April 7, 2014, 2:06:06 PM, you wrote:


If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and 
identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to.
 
If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the 
developers.

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Phil,

I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the 
form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form 
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to 
the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name 
been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point 
to the server.

The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that 
I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an 
oversight?

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the original 
HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing 
the style sheet and all the images.

--
Phil Holmes


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the 
table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web 
site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local 
copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's 
the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

Is this meant to happen?

The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


Regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-04-07 Thread Karol Majewski
Thanks again Harm. This is very useful function. Hopefully I'm not the only one 
who appreciates it.


 
 Hi Karol,
 
 below the revised function.
 'moreWhiteout' takes one optional and two normal arguments:
 Specifying whether the stencil should be boxed (boolean), which grob
 (string) and the values to extent the stencil. These values can be
 given as simple pair, affecting only X-axis-extension or as list of
 pairs, affecting X- and Y-axis-extent.
 The boolean may be of some use for debugging, though it will affect
 spacing! Perhaps I should delete it ...
 
 Otherwise I did some clean up and made the function more robust.
 Please test.
 
 \version 2.19.3
 
 moreWhiteout =
 #(define-music-function (parser location better-viewing? grob-name adds)
   ((boolean? #f) string? pair?)
 
   (define (interval-add iv-1 iv-2)
 (cons (+ (car iv-1)(car iv-2))
   (+ (cdr iv-1)(cdr iv-2
 
   (define more-stencil-whiteout
 (lambda (grob)
   (let* ((function (assoc-get 'stencil
 (reverse (ly:grob-basic-properties grob
  (stil ;; Ugh, is there no better way to test that a grob has no
;; 'stencil and that no other previous procedure assigned
;; a stencil-value to said grob?
(if (and (procedure? function)
 (not (eq? (procedure-name function)
   'more-stencil-whiteout)))
(function grob)
(begin
  (ly:warning ~a has no stencil. Ignoring grob)
  #f
 (if stil
 (let*((x-ext (ly:stencil-extent stil X))
   (y-ext (ly:stencil-extent stil Y))
   (add-to-x-ext (if (pair? (car adds)) (car adds) adds))
   (add-to-y-ext (if (pair? (cdr adds)) (cadr adds) '(0 . 0)))
   (new-stil (ly:make-stencil
(ly:stencil-expr stil)
(interval-add x-ext add-to-x-ext)
(interval-add y-ext add-to-y-ext
 
 
;; please note: setting better-viewing #t, will add a little
;; padding around the new stil and it will affect spacing in 
 most
;; other cases, too.
;; We let it in, perhaps it may be of some help in certain 
 cases.
(if better-viewing?
(box-stencil new-stil 0.1 0.01)
new-stil))
 #f
 
   #{
 %% Seems no longer needed:
 %\once \override $grob-name . vertical-skylines = #'()
 %% Better to add next two lines:
 \once \override $grob-name . layer = #10
 \once \override $grob-name . whiteout = ##t
 \once \override $grob-name . stencil = #more-stencil-whiteout
   #})
 
 %%%
 %% EXAMPLE
 %%%
 
 musicI = { \time 2/4 \repeat unfold 16 b8 }
 
 musicII = {
   r2
   %% apply to X- and Y-axis
   \moreWhiteout TextScript #'((-2 . 0.5)(0 . 2))
   b4^XX b
   r2
   %% apply to X-axis only
   \moreWhiteout ##t TextScript #'(-2 . 0.5)
   b4^XX b
 }
 
 
 \new StaffGroup 
   \new Staff \relative c'' \musicI
   \new Staff \relative c'' \musicII
 
 
 Ofcourse the extension happens as a rectangle.
 No idea to do it different.
 
  BTW, In documentation for 2.19 it's written that default value for 
 DynamicText.extra-spacing-width is '(+inf.0 . -inf.0), which is not true 
 anymore.
 
 I think you're wrong.
 The following returns '(+inf.0 . -inf.0) !
 
 {
   \override DynamicText.after-line-breaking =
 #(lambda (grob) (write (ly:grob-property grob 'extra-spacing-width)))
   c1\f
 }
 
 HTH,
   Harm




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Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Phil Holmes
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIt looks like the server serves page using 
page.html

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  But a page without extension?


  Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:
Of course it is.  It's the page and the anchor.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?


  Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: 
If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, 
and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to.

If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue 
with the developers.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye 
  To: Phil Holmes 
  Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals


  Phil,

  I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are 
of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form 
notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to 
the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name 
been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point 
to the server.

  The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some 
reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is 
it an oversight?

  Best regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com

  -
  Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


   So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  
In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

--
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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Toye
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

Thanks Phil.

I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the 
associated files.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

-
Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


 How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html 
file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images.

  --
  Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Toye
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
  Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals

  I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some 
manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window 
refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the 
main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's 
being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

  Is this meant to happen?

  The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and 
internals.


  Regards,

  Peter
  mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com
  www.ptoye.com 

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Re: Re; Pdf of Manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Nick Payne

On 08/04/14 00:08, i...@soundand.com wrote:
I only clicked on Download and yes it opened or tried to open it in 
the browser.  There was no other response.


Try a different browser then - with both Firefox and Chrome, when I open 
one of the Dropbox links I provided and click on the download button, I 
get a dialog asking me where I want to save the PDF file...




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PDF portfolio of 2.19.4 docs

2014-04-07 Thread Nick Payne

Is available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucbs7gsqap80v15/lilydoc-2.19.4.pdf

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Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

2014-04-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Yes, if your browser is english. It will serve page.it.html if it's
italian... and so on.
So it's because of translations and automatic language selection.

It's the problem described here:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2273

I don't know why the links in the left menu are different from the links in
the main area of the page.




2014-04-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:

  It looks like the server serves page using page.html

 --
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 - Original Message -
 *From:* Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net ; Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 2:31 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

 But a page without extension?

 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:

 Of course it is.  It's the page and the anchor.

 --
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 - Original Message -
 *From:* Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net ; Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

 Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link?

 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014:

 If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor,
 and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to.

 If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue
 with the developers.

 --
 Phil Holmes



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

 Phil,

 I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of
 the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form
 notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point
 to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file
 name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have
 to point to the server.

 The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some
 reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or
 is it an oversight?

 Best regards,

 Peter
 mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com lilyp...@ptoye.com
 www.ptoye.com

 -
 Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote:


 So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links.  In the
 original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links.

 --
 Phil Holmes


 - Original Message -
 *From: *Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 *To: *Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
 *Cc: *lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals

 Thanks Phil.

 I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated
 files.

 Best regards,

 Peter
 mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com lilyp...@ptoye.com
 www.ptoye.com

 -
 Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote:


 How did you download them?  If you simply Save the html file, you'll be
 missing the style sheet and all the images.

 --
 Phil Holmes


 - Original Message -
 *From: *Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com
 *To: *lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM
 *Subject:* Issue with downloaded manuals

 I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links
 in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the
 LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text
 refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being
 slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing.

 Is this meant to happen?

 The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals.


 Regards,

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Re: PDF portfolio of 2.19.4 docs

2014-04-07 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-04-07 23:11 GMT+02:00 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:

 Is available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucbs7gsqap80v15/lilydoc-2.19.
 4.pdf


Thanks Nick!

People interested in using (one day...) the PDF portfolio on Evince can
follow this issue:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659493

I couldn't find any issue in the Okular tracker..
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