Re: Thumb in fret-diagram

[pls]

This looks like a regression to me. See 

https://codereview.appspot.com/4176056/ (allow non numeric fingers (e.g. for 
thumb))
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/input/regression/dd/lily-caf6e8f6.ly (the “P” is 
not printed)

hth
patrick

On 03.05.2015, at 17:35, Stephen MacNeil  wrote:

> Hi Harm
> Thanks for the reply
> 
> This is the code and version
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> \markup
> \fill-line {
> \concat {
> {
> \override #'(size . .7)\override #'(fret-diagram-details . ((finger-code . 
> below-string)
> (dot-radius . 0.35)
> (number-type . roman-lower)
> (finger-code . below-string)
> (fret-count . 3)))
> \halign #-.72
> \raise #0 \pad-around #.2 {
> \center-column\text {
> \halign #-13 \fontsize #-2.5 {
> \concat { F \super { maj7 } }
> }
> \vspace #-.6
> \fret-diagram #"6-1;5-3-3;4-3-4;3-2-2;2-1-1;1-o;"
> }
> }
> }
> }
> }
> 
> I would assume \fret-diagram #"6-1-T;5-3-3;4-3-4;3-2-2;2-1-1;1-o;" should 
> work... however no go.
> 
> Thanks 
> Stephen
> 
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Thomas Morley  
> wrote:
> 2015-05-03 16:26 GMT+02:00 Stephen MacNeil :
> > I found a way to do it.
> >
> > http://mglessons.com/lilypond/Score2.pdf
> >
> > but as I said i think this was added 4 years ago so if anyone has a proper
> > (faster way) that would be great.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Stephen
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this may or may not be due to issue 4120
> https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4120
> 
> Without version and example-code - no idea
> 
> 
> -Harm
> 
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Re: Jianpu Notation

[Paul Morris]

> On May 1, 2015, at 9:33 PM, Super-User  wrote:
> 
> And, I've attached some real world examples from Baidu, which displays key 
> B-flat as "1=♭B" instead of "1=B♭".I've attached "jianpu10a.ly 
> " which fixes this.

Ok, thanks for this.

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Re: Jianpu Notation

[Paul Morris]

Hi David,

> On May 1, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Super-User  wrote:
> 
> Here's a test script, with all transpose using \major. But somehow, the key 
> signture displays other than "1=“.

Thanks for the test script.  I suspect that those key signatures are unusual or 
non-standard.  I’ve only supported the standard keys from the circle of 5ths:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths

Cheers,
-Paul
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Re: Jianpu Notation

[Paul Morris]

Hi Ming,

> On May 1, 2015, at 4:33 PM, MING TSANG  wrote:
> 
> One question:  Is this stable enough to merge with jianpu6.ly 
>  from David Zhang?

I think so.

> Jianpu6.ly  allows the display jianpu in two options:
> numbered: 1 2 3 4  5  6  7   
> solfege option1: do  remi   fa so la ti   OR
> soffege option2: dr  mf   s   l   t (this 
> option is not in jianpu6.ly  yet but I wish it is)
> Note: Paul and David, who want to tackle this?   

I’m happy for David to do it.  It’s basically the same change as before I think.

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Re: Spoken text without

[Trevor Daniels]

Peter Schütt

> I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).
> 
> The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part
> the song continues.
> 
> How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?
[..]

It depends what you want to do exactly, that's why a short example showing the 
missing bit is helpful.  So, as Phil suggested, \markup might be what you want, 
or maybe you could put it in quotes as one long element of the lyrics, attached 
to the holding note.  There's a section in the Notation Reference which shows 
these two ideas:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/opera-and-stage-musicals#dialogue-over-music

Trevor
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Re: Spoken text without

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello everyone,

I first thought of another one: switching between the lyrics modes with 
associated voice and without. But \set associatedVoice = ##f doesn’t do 
what I might’ve expected (see attachment). Does anybody know of a way to 
do this or should it be a feature request?


Yours, Simon

Am 03.05.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Peter Schütt:

Hallo,
I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).

The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part the
song continues.

How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?

Thanks for any hint.

Ciao
   Peter Schütt


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\version "2.19.17"

notes = \relative { c'2 c R1 c2 c }
text = \lyricmode {
  Test
  \set associatedVoice = ##f
  case.

  Does1*1/6 this do what you
  \set associatedVoice = "voice"
  want?

  end text
}

\score {
  <<
\new Staff \new Voice = "voice" \notes
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" \text
  >>
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Re: Spoken text without

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello Peter,

it is possible to write lyrics with explicitly specified durations, 
which should also help in your case. I concocted an example (for the 
future, please always try and provide a small, compiling one yourself), 
which you find attached.


HTH, Simon

Am 03.05.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Peter Schütt:

Hallo,
I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).

The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part the
song continues.

How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?

Thanks for any hint.

Ciao
   Peter Schütt


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\version "2.19.17"

notes = \relative { c'2 c R1 c2 c }
text = \lyricmode {
  Test2 case.

  Does1*1/6 this do what you want?

  end2 text
}

\score {
  <<
\new Staff \new Voice = "voice" \notes
\new Lyrics \text
  >>
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Re: Spoken text without

[Peter Schütt]

Hallo,

> I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).
> 
> The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part
> the song continues.
> 
> How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?
[..]
>> Using markup text would likely be appropriate.

Do you mean something like this?

melodyBridge = \relative c'' {
  \global
  e8 e8 (e2) r8 cis8 e8 cis8 e8 cis8 e2 (e1) 
  r1*3_ " (gesprochen) Lass den mal seinen Willen, der ist ein 
bisschen schwierig!"  
}

This is a good result for me. 

Is this the best practise way?

Ciao
  Peter Schütt


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Re: Spoken text without

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Schütt" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 5:37 PM
Subject: Spoken text without


Hallo,
I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).

The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part the
song continues.

How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?

Thanks for any hint.

Ciao
 Peter Schütt
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Using markup text would likely be appropriate.

--
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Spoken text without

[Peter Schütt]

Hallo,
I have song with a spoken part after the bridge (without a note).

The Instruments shall keep the last note and after the short spoken part the 
song continues. 

How can I put this spoken part in Lilypond?

Thanks for any hint.

Ciao
  Peter Schütt


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Re:Guitar Tab Quarter Tone Bends

[Stephen MacNeil]

just a side note quarter tone bends work without the tab using
definitions_No-Tab.ly it seems it's the tab that messes it up -- hence the
need for the Qt_BendDef.

Stephen
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Re: Guitar Tab Quarter Tone Bends

[Stephen MacNeil]

here if people are interested -- i posted this before .. anyway here is a
link to use definitions.ily without tab called definitions_No-Tab.ly
(forgot ily in the name just rename it you you wish)

http://mglessons.com/lilypond/example_No-Tab.pdf
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/example_No-Tab.ly
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/definitions_No-Tab.ly

Stephen
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Re: Guitar Tab Quarter Tone Bends

[Stephen MacNeil]

sure here they are

2 versions

1 does normal markup you only add the quarter tones -- alignment isn't
perfect as definitions.ily is sometimes off .06 uses original
definitions.ily

http://mglessons.com/lilypond/definitions.ily
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef.ily
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef-Example.ly
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef-Example.pdf

2 better alignment but requires all markups to be added with Qt_BendDef_M
-- requires modified definitions.ily

http://mglessons.com/lilypond/definitions_M.ily
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef_M.ily
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef-Example_M.ly
http://mglessons.com/lilypond/QT_BendDef-Example_M.pdf

Stephen

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Federico Bruni  wrote:

> Hi Stephen
>
> I didn't see the file which produced the PDF you attached in your first
> message...
> If you post it in this list I may add a link in github wiki to offer a
> workaround for quarter tone bends.
>
> Thanks
> Federico
>
>
> Il giorno sab 2 mag 2015 alle 19:24, Marc Hohl  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Am 02.05.2015 um 15:12 schrieb Stephen MacNeil:
>> > Hi Marc
>> >
>> >  >Yes, please! Is it based on bend.ily, or did you wrote it from
>> scratch?
>> > I>IRC, 1/4 bends were possible in bend.ily ...
>> >
>> > It uses definitions.ily which I believe is based on bend.ily i think.
>>
>> Yes. I wasn't aware of this file being renamed (and I did not see this
>> message when I answered your private message).
>>
>> > Great work by the way! And yes quarter tones are possibly however It
>> > dies if the tab is printed.
>>
>> Oh. I think I included the glyphs ¼ and so on but apparently, this is a
>> font issue.
>>
>> > This never bothered me as I removed the tab
>> > sections from the file anyway, and it works without it. Anyway as I said
>> > this is a "Band Aid" solution, basically it just adds whatever you put
>> > in 1 1/3 2 1/4 etc by covering the old marking (not a great solution)
>> > and changes the accidental. Hence Band aid! It allows printing them with
>> > tab, which is what was needed.
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Marc
>>
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Re: Guitar Tab Quarter Tone Bends

[Federico Bruni]

Hi Stephen

I didn't see the file which produced the PDF you attached in your first 
message...
If you post it in this list I may add a link in github wiki to offer a 
workaround for quarter tone bends.


Thanks
Federico

Il giorno sab 2 mag 2015 alle 19:24, Marc Hohl  ha 
scritto:

Am 02.05.2015 um 15:12 schrieb Stephen MacNeil:
> Hi Marc
>
>  >Yes, please! Is it based on bend.ily, or did you wrote it from 
scratch?

> I>IRC, 1/4 bends were possible in bend.ily ...
>
> It uses definitions.ily which I believe is based on bend.ily i 
think.


Yes. I wasn't aware of this file being renamed (and I did not see this
message when I answered your private message).

> Great work by the way! And yes quarter tones are possibly however It
> dies if the tab is printed.

Oh. I think I included the glyphs ¼ and so on but apparently, this 
is a

font issue.

> This never bothered me as I removed the tab
> sections from the file anyway, and it works without it. Anyway as I 
said
> this is a "Band Aid" solution, basically it just adds whatever you 
put
> in 1 1/3 2 1/4 etc by covering the old marking (not a great 
solution)
> and changes the accidental. Hence Band aid! It allows printing them 
with

> tab, which is what was needed.

I see.

Cheers,

Marc


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Re: Thumb in fret-diagram

[Stephen MacNeil]

Hi Harm
Thanks for the reply

This is the code and version

\version "2.18.2"

\markup

\fill-line {

\concat {

{

\override #'(size . .7)\override #'(fret-diagram-details . ((finger-code .
below-string)

(dot-radius . 0.35)

(number-type . roman-lower)

(finger-code . below-string)

(fret-count . 3)))

\halign #-.72

\raise #0 \pad-around #.2 {

\center-column\text {

\halign #-13 \fontsize #-2.5 {

\concat { F \super { maj7 } }

}

\vspace #-.6

\fret-diagram #"6-1;5-3-3;4-3-4;3-2-2;2-1-1;1-o;"

}

}

}

}

}

I would assume \fret-diagram #"6-1-T;5-3-3;4-3-4;3-2-2;2-1-1;1-o;" should
work... however no go.

Thanks
Stephen

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Thomas Morley 
wrote:

> 2015-05-03 16:26 GMT+02:00 Stephen MacNeil :
> > I found a way to do it.
> >
> > http://mglessons.com/lilypond/Score2.pdf
> >
> > but as I said i think this was added 4 years ago so if anyone has a
> proper
> > (faster way) that would be great.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Stephen
>
>
> Hi,
>
> this may or may not be due to issue 4120
> https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4120
>
> Without version and example-code - no idea
>
>
> -Harm
>
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Re: Thumb in fret-diagram

[Thomas Morley]

2015-05-03 16:26 GMT+02:00 Stephen MacNeil :
> I found a way to do it.
>
> http://mglessons.com/lilypond/Score2.pdf
>
> but as I said i think this was added 4 years ago so if anyone has a proper
> (faster way) that would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Stephen


Hi,

this may or may not be due to issue 4120
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4120

Without version and example-code - no idea


-Harm

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RE:Thumb in fret-diagram

[Stephen MacNeil]

I found a way to do it.

http://mglessons.com/lilypond/Score2.pdf

but as I said i think this was added 4 years ago so if anyone has a proper
(faster way) that would be great.

Thanks
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Re: no score displayed

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 03.05.2015 um 14:45 schrieb MING TSANG:

Andrew, Thomas, Phil, Brian & Martin:
Thank you all for taking time to answer my request. As few of you 
suggest this may be a bug, how do I report this to bug list.
This is explained on . Which is 
quite easy to find, if you look for it.


Yours, Simon
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Re: Font question.

[Hwaen Ch'uqi]

Dear All,

Thank you so much for your input. In fact, I, a LilyPond user on
Linux, was working on a project with a friend who was supplying text
through her M$oft (love the shortcut!) tools. I am using 2.18.2, whose
NR's language seems to indicate (but doesn't emphatically state) the
use of New Century Schoolbook as the default font, but that font
wasn't present on her system. Anyway, all has since been squared away.
Thank you again.

Hwaen Ch'uqi


On 5/3/15, Martin Tarenskeen  wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 3 May 2015, Janek Warchoł wrote:
>
>> it's New Century Schoolbook.  I don't know what M$oft equivalent would
>> be, but i expect you should be able to download it freely and install.
>
> If I install LilyPond on Fedora, I automatically also install the fonts it
> uses, and I can use these fonts both in LilyPond and other programs.
>
> I am not a Windows user, but doesn't the Windows LilyPond installer also
> install these fonts? So there should be no need to download them (again)?
>
> --
>
> MT

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Re: no score displayed

[MING TSANG]

Daniel,Thank you for the info.  I use frecobaldi v2.18 to generate the 
template. Please note my previous email about 2 minutes ago.Immanuel,Ming 


 On Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:40 AM, Trevor Daniels  
wrote:
   

 
MING TSANG wrote Sunday, May 03, 2015 11:48 AM

> I coded soprano staff to bar 20  compile in v2.19.19 and no notes 
> displayed.

> Then I continue to code piano-right staff to bar 6   compile in v2.19.19 
> and I can see notes appear on soprano staff but only up to bar 7 's first 
> g'2.  Partial bar 7 to bar 20 disapear.  Piano-right display bar 1-6 as 
> expected.  However, bar 7 -20 also displayed with staff lines.  Piano-left 
> staff display bar 1 as expected because only bar 1 is coded.

> Then I switch to compile v2.18  all 20 bar of soprano staff appears, however 
> piano-right staff display all 6 bars that is coded. Bar 7 - 20 display staff 
> lines (no notes are expected - not coded yet).  piano-left display as 
> expected.    Strange .

This is a consequence of Issue 2010, I believe, applied to version 2.19.16, 
which seems to do strange things when contexts terminate before others.  In 
developing the satb.ly built-in template I found I had to ensure all contexts 
which run out of notes prematurely had to be kept alive to avoid strange 
effects like this.

I suggest you consider using the built-in template for simple vocal pieces
(see 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/built_002din-templates)
 
which you may find easier to use anyway and which avoids this effect.  I've 
attached your source code converted to use it, as a teaser.

Trevor

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Re: no score displayed

[MING TSANG]

Andrew, Thomas, Phil, Brian & Martin:Thank you all for taking time to answer my 
request. As few of you suggest this may be a bug, how do I report this to bug 
list.
Phil:  Thank you for your patience. I took your tiny sample demonstrating the 
error and put them is two lily files. one for v2.18.2 and one for 2.19.19.  I 
also copy & paste the output log file into each .ly file.   Also thank you for 
the work around.
Brian:  Thank you for pointing out the naked "8" in v2.18.2
Thomas:  Thank you for the explanation about the rest at the beginning of a 
staff . 
Martin: Thank you for pointing out naked "8" 
Andrew: Thank you for the info -- premature dying of context  




Immanuel,Ming.



  On Sunday, May 3, 2015 7:09 AM, Andrew Bernard  
wrote:
   

 #yiv2230380195 body{font-family:Lucida Sans Unicode, 
Arial;font-size:15px;}Hello Ming,
The rests at the start of the vocal music are the cause of your problem.
As Thomas says, this is a premature dying of the context - so there is nothing 
to set against. Compiles fine on 2.19.19, apart from this issue.
I never set lyrics, so I would not really know, but this does sound like some 
sort of a bug. But the workaround should be obvious.
Andrew. 
  
On 3 May 2015 at 11:48:16, MING TSANG (tsan...@rogers.com) wrote:

\version "2.18"

<<
  \new Staff { r1 r1 c''1 }
  \addlyrics { "v2-18" }
  \new Staff { c''1 }
>>

%{
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.0 [test_no-note-displayed_v2-18.ly]...
Processing `K:/LILY_POND/lord-teach-me-how-to-pray/test_no-note-displayed_v2-18.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test_no-note-displayed_v2-18.ps'...
Converting to `./test_no-note-displayed_v2-18.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 2.4".
%}



\version "2.19.19"

\markup "v2.19.19  "
<<
  \new Staff { r1 r1 c''1 }
  \addlyrics { "Lyrics" }
  \new Staff { c''1 }
>>


%{

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.19 [test_no-note-displayed_v2-19-19.ly]...
Processing `K:/LILY_POND/lord-teach-me-how-to-pray/test_no-note-displayed_v2-19-19.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
K:/LILY_POND/lord-teach-me-how-to-pray/test_no-note-displayed_v2-19-19.ly:7:14: warning: cannot find Staff `uniqueContext0'

  \addlyrics 
 { "Lyrics" }
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test_no-note-displayed_v2-19-19.ps'...
Converting to `./test_no-note-displayed_v2-19-19.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.7".

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Re: no score displayed

[Trevor Daniels]

MING TSANG wrote Sunday, May 03, 2015 11:48 AM

> I coded soprano staff to bar 20  compile in v2.19.19 and no notes 
> displayed.

> Then I continue to code piano-right staff to bar 6    compile in v2.19.19 
> and I can see notes appear on soprano staff but only up to bar 7 's first 
> g'2.  Partial bar 7 to bar 20 disapear.  Piano-right display bar 1-6 as 
> expected.  However, bar 7 -20 also displayed with staff lines.   Piano-left 
> staff display bar 1 as expected because only bar 1 is coded.

> Then I switch to compile v2.18  all 20 bar of soprano staff appears, however 
> piano-right staff display all 6 bars that is coded. Bar 7 - 20 display staff 
> lines (no notes are expected - not coded yet).   piano-left display as 
> expected. Strange .

This is a consequence of Issue 2010, I believe, applied to version 2.19.16, 
which seems to do strange things when contexts terminate before others.  In 
developing the satb.ly built-in template I found I had to ensure all contexts 
which run out of notes prematurely had to be kept alive to avoid strange 
effects like this.

I suggest you consider using the built-in template for simple vocal pieces
(see 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/built_002din-templates)
 
which you may find easier to use anyway and which avoids this effect.  I've 
attached your source code converted to use it, as a teaser.

Trevor\version "2.19.19"
\language "english"

\header {
  title = "求主教我如何禱告"
  subtitle = "Lord, Teach Me How To Pray"
  composer = "曲: 黄楨茂"
  poet = "詞 : 陳供生"
  % Remove default LilyPond tagline
  tagline = ##f
}

\paper {
  #(set-paper-size "letter")
}

Layout = \layout {
  \context {
\Voice
\consists "Melody_engraver"
\override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'()
  }
}

Time = {
  \key ef \major
  \time 4/4
  \tempo "Moderato" 4=100
}

SopranoMusic =  {
  \dynamicUp
  r1 r1 r1 r1 \break %m01-04
  r2 r4 bf4 |%m05
  ef'4. f'8 g'8 ef'8 ef'8. f'16 |%m06
  g'2. bf4 |%m07
  c'4. d'8 ef'8 f'8 e'8. c'16 |\break %m08
  bf2. g'8 g'8 |%m09
  af'4. c''8 af'8 g'8 f8( g'8)|%m10
  af'2. af'8 g' |%m11
  f'4. g'8 g'8 f'4 ef'8 |\break %m12
  bf'2. bf4 |%m13
  ef'4. g'8 bf'4 \tuplet 3/2{c''8 bf' g'} |%m14
  af2. af'4 |%M15
  af4. g'8 f'4 \tuplet 3/2{g'8 f' ef'} |\break %m16
  f'2. bf8 bf8 |%m17
  ef'4. f'8 g'8 bf'4 ef'8 |%m18
  c''2. ef'8 f' |%m19
  g'8 bf'4 g'8 f'4. ef'8 |\break %m20
}

SopranoLyrics = \lyricmode {
  施 恩 座 前 向 主 求 告, 所 有 己 意 讓 主 青
  掃, 愛 的 聲 音 已 在 呼 召, 要 我 向 祂 順 服 投

}

PianoRHMusic =   {
  r2 r4 bf4|%m01
  4. 8 <<{g'8 bf'8}\\{ef'4}>> 8. 16 |%m02
  2. bf4 |%m03
  <<{c'4. d'8 ef'8 g'8}\\{g2 c'4}>> 8. 16 |%m04
  2. bf4 |%m05
  4. 8 <<{g'8 bf'8}\\{ef'4}>> 8. 16 |%m06
}

PianoLHMusic =   {
  r1 %m01

}

SopranoInstrumentName = "S."
SopranoShortInstrumentName = "S."
SopranoMidiInstrument = "choir aahs"
PianoInstrumentName = "Pno."
PianoShortInstrumentName = "Pno."

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Re: Overlapping chords

[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Sun, 03 May 2015 13:27:52 +0200
Simon Albrecht  wrote:
> > Yes.  My NetBSD box running 2.18.2 does not have that issue.  I
> > guess as soon as Ubuntu updates their version
> … or you update manually yourself, which is explained /in extenso/ on 
> the lily website.

In fact, as soon as I sent that I looked it up and did that.

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Re: Overlapping chords

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 03.05.2015 um 10:47 schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain:

On Sat, 2 May 2015 04:51:34 + (UTC)
Keith OHara  wrote:

In this case, I think it is a bug fixed soon after version 2.16
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1700

Yes.  My NetBSD box running 2.18.2 does not have that issue.  I guess
as soon as Ubuntu updates their version
… or you update manually yourself, which is explained /in extenso/ on 
the lily website.


Yours, Simon

  the problem will go away there
as well.  Thanks.




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Re: no score displayed

[Andrew Bernard]

Hello Ming,

The rests at the start of the vocal music are the cause of your problem.

As Thomas says, this is a premature dying of the context - so there is nothing 
to set against. Compiles fine on 2.19.19, apart from this issue.

I never set lyrics, so I would not really know, but this does sound like some 
sort of a bug. But the workaround should be obvious.

Andrew.


On 3 May 2015 at 11:48:16, MING TSANG (tsan...@rogers.com) wrote:

Hi, lilyponders,

I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no notes displayed when compile.

Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am running v2.19.19
I switch v2.18.2  - I encounter the same result.


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Re: no score displayed

[MING TSANG]

 Martin, 
Thank you. I found out naked "8" is not support in v2.18.  Please see my other 
post about this strange problem.
Immanuel,Ming


  On Sunday, May 3, 2015 6:49 AM, "lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org" 
 wrote:
   

 
  1. Re:no score displayed (J Martin Rushton)
  Message: 1
Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 10:39:46 +0100
From: J Martin Rushton 
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: no score displayed
Message-ID: <5545ece2.7010...@btinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I've just had a look using Frecobaldi but I'm only running Lilypond
2.18.2.  I see the following error messages:

- ---%<-
Processing `/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly'
Parsing...
/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly:39:11: error: syntax error,
unexpected UNSIGNED
  b2. g'8
          8 |%m09
/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly:79:3: error: errors found,
ignoring music expression

  <<
fatal error: failed files: "/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly"
- --%<---

Perhaps you need to check this area?  Alternatively I need to update! :-
)

Martin


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Re: no score displayed

[Thomas Morley]

2015-05-03 12:57 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley :
> 2015-05-03 12:24 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes :
>> As a general suggestion, could I suggest you check the output from LilyPond
>> and get rid of the errors shown prior to asking here?
>>
>> --
>> Phil Holmes
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: MING TSANG
>> To: Lilypond-user Mailinglist
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:47 AM
>> Subject: no score displayed
>>
>> Hi, lilyponders,
>>
>> I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no notes displayed when
>> compile.
>>
>> Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am running v2.19.19
>> I switch v2.18.2  - I encounter the same result.
>>
>> Immanuel,
>> Ming
>
> Hi Ming,
>
> please read
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/troubleshooting
> and then reread it.
> Same with:
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/troubleshooting

c/p error, should read:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html

>
> Do exactly as adviced.
> You would have seen the problem is not in
> \header
> -> delete it
> \layout
> -> delete it
> \with-Blocks
> delete them
> \paper
> ->delete it
> \midi
> -> delete it
> \global
> -> delete it
> to get a smaller example
>
> To get a tiny example reduce/delete all variables to the really needed
> amount for demonstrating the problem.
>
> Having done this annoying work for you the problem can be shown with:
>
> \version "2.19.18"
>
> <<
>   \new Staff { r1 r1 c''1 }
>   \addlyrics { "Lyrics" }
>   \new Staff { c''1 }
>>>
>
>
> Obviously a problem of prematurely dying context in sort of relation
> with \addlyrics
>
>
> May be a bug, please report it.
>
> For now do:
>
>
> \version "2.19.18"
>
> <<
>   \new Staff \new Voice = "v" { r1 r1 c''1 }
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "v" { "Lyrics" }
>   \new Staff { c''1 }
>>>
>
>
>
> -Harm

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Re: no score displayed

[Thomas Morley]

2015-05-03 12:24 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes :
> As a general suggestion, could I suggest you check the output from LilyPond
> and get rid of the errors shown prior to asking here?
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: MING TSANG
> To: Lilypond-user Mailinglist
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:47 AM
> Subject: no score displayed
>
> Hi, lilyponders,
>
> I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no notes displayed when
> compile.
>
> Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am running v2.19.19
> I switch v2.18.2  - I encounter the same result.
>
> Immanuel,
> Ming

Hi Ming,

please read
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/troubleshooting
and then reread it.
Same with:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/troubleshooting

Do exactly as adviced.
You would have seen the problem is not in
\header
-> delete it
\layout
-> delete it
\with-Blocks
delete them
\paper
->delete it
\midi
-> delete it
\global
-> delete it
to get a smaller example

To get a tiny example reduce/delete all variables to the really needed
amount for demonstrating the problem.

Having done this annoying work for you the problem can be shown with:

\version "2.19.18"

<<
  \new Staff { r1 r1 c''1 }
  \addlyrics { "Lyrics" }
  \new Staff { c''1 }
>>


Obviously a problem of prematurely dying context in sort of relation
with \addlyrics


May be a bug, please report it.

For now do:


\version "2.19.18"

<<
  \new Staff \new Voice = "v" { r1 r1 c''1 }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "v" { "Lyrics" }
  \new Staff { c''1 }
>>



-Harm

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Re: no score displayed

[MING TSANG]

Phil,Will do.  Just missed the log file. Log file window is small and I 
missed.Immanuel,Ming. 


 On Sunday, May 3, 2015 6:24 AM, Phil Holmes  wrote:
   

 As a general suggestion, could I suggest you check the output from LilyPond 
and get rid of the errors shown prior to asking here?
--
Phil Holmes  
 - Original Message -  From: MING TSANG  To: Lilypond-user Mailinglist  
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:47 AM Subject: no score displayed 
  Hi, lilyponders, 
 I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no notes displayed when 
compile. 
 Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am running v2.19.19 I switch v2.18.2  - I 
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Re: Fedora 21 and lilypond 2.19.19

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Bernard" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Fedora 21 and lilypond 2.19.19




Hi Martin,

I totally agree. This is actually the first proper bug I have come across 
myself in lilypond. How does one submit a bug report, and where?


And by the way, I do feel my issue is separate from the other recent 
Fedora ones.


Andrew


http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html

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Re: no score displayed

[Phil Holmes]

As a general suggestion, could I suggest you check the output from LilyPond and 
get rid of the errors shown prior to asking here?

--
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  - Original Message - 
  From: MING TSANG 
  To: Lilypond-user Mailinglist 
  Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:47 AM
  Subject: no score displayed


  Hi, lilyponders,


  I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no notes displayed when 
compile.


  Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am running v2.19.19
  I switch v2.18.2  - I encounter the same result.


  Immanuel,
  Ming


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Re: no score displayed

[J Martin Rushton]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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I've just had a look using Frecobaldi but I'm only running Lilypond
2.18.2.  I see the following error messages:

- ---%<-
Processing `/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly'
Parsing...
/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly:39:11: error: syntax error,
unexpected UNSIGNED
  b2. g'8
  8 |%m09
/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly:79:3: error: errors found,
ignoring music expression

  <<
fatal error: failed files: "/tmp/frescobaldi-zktNnW/tmpH6heg9/tsang.ly"
- --%<---

Perhaps you need to check this area?  Alternatively I need to update! :-
)

Martin

On 03/05/15 02:47, MING TSANG wrote:
> Hi, lilyponders, I code first 9 bars of solo + piano - strange : no
> notes displayed when compile. Please refer to .png and .ly.  I am
> running v2.19.19I switch v2.18.2  - I encounter the same result. 
> Immanuel,Ming
> 
> 
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Re: [AFIM.INFO] TENOR 2015: First International Conference on New Technologies for Music Notation and Representation

[Calixte Faure]

Hello all,

Thanks Paul for this news, I’ll be there too!

Regards,
Calixte

2015-04-30 20:53 GMT+02:00 Mike Solomon :

> Hey all,
>
> Just a note that I’ll be there too for a gig with the ensemble 101 at 5:40
> at the Ircam on the 29th that will be presenting some algorithmic
> composition methods I use to sketch ideas with LilyPond.
> I’ll also be chairing the Thursday morning session.
> Looking forward to seeing whoever is going!
>
> ~Mike
>
> On 30 Apr 2015, at 20:49, Trevor Bača  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll be there reading a paper about Abjad coauthored with Josiah
> Oberholtzer, Jeff Treviño and Victor Adán. Jeff will be there with me to
> help present (but Josiah and Victor will be staying in the US during the
> conference). I think we're presenting at 10:20 am on Saturday (May 30) at
> the Maison de la Recherche. Anyone who's in Paris that weekend should mail
> and perhaps we could meet for coffee before or after.
>
> The paper we put together on Abjad is modeled in part on Han-Wen and Jan's
> introductory LilyPond paper they presented in Firenze years ago. LilyPond
> (and Python) are what have made Abjad possible for many years now. And so
> it's a pleasure to finally acknowledge the fact in an academic setting.
>
> Looking forward to perhaps meeting some new faces in Paris.
>
> Trevor.
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Paul Morris  wrote:
>
>> Anyone planning on attending this conference in Paris at the end of May?
>> I
>> see a couple of LilyPonders on the program, Trevor Bača and Mike Solomon,
>> and Daniel Spreadbury will be presenting on the SMuFL font standard.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> anders.vinjar wrote
>> > Topics:
>> >Fwd: [AFIM.INFO ] TENOR 2015: First
>> International Conference on New
>> > Technologies for Music Notation and Representation
>> >
>> >
>> > Début du message réexpédié :
>> >
>> >> De: Pierre Couprie (Paris4) <
>>
>> > pierre.couprie@
>>
>> > >
>> >> Objet: [AFIM.INFO ] TENOR 2015: First
>> International Conference on New
>> >> Technologies for Music Notation and Representation
>> >> Date: 27 octobre 2014 13:50:00 UTC+1
>> >> À:
>>
>> > afim.info@
>>
>> >>
>> >> TENOR 2015
>> >> First International Conference on New Technologies for Music Notation
>> and
>> >> Representation
>> >>
>> >> Call for papers
>> >>
>> >> Paris, France, 29-30 May 2015
>> >> University of Paris-Sorbonne / Ircam
>> >>
>> >> The first International Conference on New Technologies for Music
>> Notation
>> >> and Representation is dedicated to issues in theoretical and applied
>> >> research and development in Music Notation and Representation, with a
>> >> strong focus on computer tools and applications, as well as a tight
>> >> connection to music creation.
>> >>
>> >> Until very recently, the support provided by the computer music to the
>> >> field of symbolic notation remained fairly conventional. However,
>> recent
>> >> developments indicate that the field of tools for musical notation is
>> now
>> >> moving towards new forms of representation. Moreover, musical notation,
>> >> transcription, sonic visualization, and musical representation are
>> often
>> >> associated in the fields of musical analysis, ethnology, and acoustics.
>> >> The aim of this conference is to explore all of recent mutations of
>> >> notation and representation in all domains of music.
>> >>
>> >> Topics of interest
>> >>
>> >> Musical creation
>> >>  • Notation in electronic and electroacoustic music
>> >>  • Notations for interactive music
>> >>  • Notation for sound installations
>> >>  • Notation for the multimedia and mixed arts
>> >>  • Live coding
>> >>
>> >> Musical notation
>> >>  • Innovative computer applications for music notation
>> >>  • Languages for music notation
>> >>  • Gesture notation
>> >>  • Notation and mobile devices
>> >>  • Exchange formats for music notation
>> >>  • Online tools and languages for music notation and representation
>> >>
>> >> Analysis, notation & pieces studies
>> >>  • Analysis of contemporary notations
>> >>  • Semiotic of new notation forms
>> >>  • Ontology of the notation of interactive music
>> >>  • Data mining, music notation corpus, databases
>> >>
>> >> Representation, transcription
>> >>  • Sound visualization
>> >>  • Interactive representation
>> >>  • Transcription in ethnomusicology and representation of
>> non-written
>> >> musics
>> >>  • Non-western or ancient music trans-notation
>> >>  • Representation and transcription in acoustic ecology and sound
>> >> landscape
>> >>  • Optical music recognition
>> >>
>> >> Listening, teaching
>> >>  • Listening guides
>> >>  • Live and offline annotation
>> >>  • Notations for music pedagogy
>> >>
>> >> Submission
>> >>
>> >> Information & submission: http://tenor2015.tenor-conference.org.
>> >> Deadline for papers submission: January 15, 2015.
>> >>
>> >> With the collaboration of:
>> 

Re: Overlapping chords

[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Sat, 2 May 2015 04:51:34 + (UTC)
Keith OHara  wrote:
> In this case, I think it is a bug fixed soon after version 2.16
> https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1700

Yes.  My NetBSD box running 2.18.2 does not have that issue.  I guess
as soon as Ubuntu updates their version the problem will go away there
as well.  Thanks.

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Re: Font question.

[Martin Tarenskeen]

On Sun, 3 May 2015, Janek Warchoł wrote:


it's New Century Schoolbook.  I don't know what M$oft equivalent would
be, but i expect you should be able to download it freely and install.


If I install LilyPond on Fedora, I automatically also install the fonts it 
uses, and I can use these fonts both in LilyPond and other programs.


I am not a Windows user, but doesn't the Windows LilyPond installer also 
install these fonts? So there should be no need to download them (again)?


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Re: Is GridLY the future?

[Werner LEMBERG]

>> This is what I meant with `defending your code'.  And sometimes it
>> simply happens that there is no concensus.
> 
> I hope you simply didn't read Janek's comment carefully enough.  The
> main point in his last sentence is not about the alternative but
> about an attitude of rejecting suggestions simply because one
> doesn't understand their use case.  Which *is* off-putting in a
> non-constructive manner that can't really be justified with
> "defeding code".

Hmm, OK.  It's a bit hard for me to see the fine distinction – you
have to convince the other developer(s) in both situations, which
might be a long and exhausting process –, but I acknowledge that the
difference is important to you, Janek, and maybe other contributors.


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Re: Font question.

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Folks,

According to my lilypond system (2.19.19) it is plain Century Schoolbook (no 
New involved). This is a standard font supplied with Windows, at least up to 
Windows 7 which is a high as I go.

Andrew






On 3/05/2015 10:33, "Janek Warchoł"  wrote:

>
>it's New Century Schoolbook.  I don't know what M$oft equivalent would
>be, but i expect you should be able to download it freely and install.
>


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