Re: fingering position
Thank you David and Noeck, your solutions work. I will also check the
documentation about staff-padding and avoid-slur as soon as the lilypond
site will work again.
Thanks, g.
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 00:22, Noeck wrote:
> Dear Gianmaria,
>
> here are two more options:
>
>
> \fixed c' {
> \once \override StringNumber.staff-padding = ##f
> a8\3( b d'-5
> \once \override StringNumber.extra-offset = #'(0 . -0.2)
> c'\4 b a) r4
> }
>
> \fixed c' { a8\3_( b d'-5 c'\4 b a) r4 }
>
>
> Cheers,
> Joram
>
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Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 8/9/2018 5:47 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: This is a public forum. Great de-escalation! Working through issues with personal relations is best done off-list. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
This is a public forum. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:43 PM wrote: > > Narcissism unfortunately never shows anything else in tbe mirror. This > post proves it. Go read all posts in chronological order and then tell > me who started the vitriol. Your little stabs and bites for no reason > just to get a reaction. Who do you think you are. Well now you get the > reaction. > > Everyone on this particular post acted civil except you, so dont give me > the yet again red lmeat lure. I had zero issues with any of the posters > on this thread..go read. > > Do me a favor, if i post a new thread dont post in it. Neither will i > post in yours. I promise that would go a long way at keeping things > civil. Since you asked to keep things civil, i cannot agree more. Just > stay away from me. I dont need your code and your attached vitriol. > > On 2018-08-09 17:48, David Nalesnik wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM wrote: > >> > >> Congratulations, > >> Whatever. > >> Good luck. > > > > So much venom about drawing circles with slashes through them. > > > > You have made this the most unpleasant exchange I have ever taken part > > in on this list. I would invite you to be more civil in your future > > interactions with this community. > > > > Thanks, > > David Nalesnik > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
Narcissism unfortunately never shows anything else in tbe mirror. This post proves it. Go read all posts in chronological order and then tell me who started the vitriol. Your little stabs and bites for no reason just to get a reaction. Who do you think you are. Well now you get the reaction. Everyone on this particular post acted civil except you, so dont give me the yet again red lmeat lure. I had zero issues with any of the posters on this thread..go read. Do me a favor, if i post a new thread dont post in it. Neither will i post in yours. I promise that would go a long way at keeping things civil. Since you asked to keep things civil, i cannot agree more. Just stay away from me. I dont need your code and your attached vitriol. On 2018-08-09 17:48, David Nalesnik wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM wrote: Congratulations, Whatever. Good luck. So much venom about drawing circles with slashes through them. You have made this the most unpleasant exchange I have ever taken part in on this list. I would invite you to be more civil in your future interactions with this community. Thanks, David Nalesnik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Piano, voices and stem directions
Hi Torsten, thanks for your comprehensive answer which makes perfectly sense to me. From a player’s perspective, I found it interesting to see the 'voices' alternating, when I transcribed the no. 5 of the same opus, and to make the subtle hints more prominent by using colors (sometimes I reused existing voices): http://joramberger.de/files/rach-prelude23-05-colors.pdf Best, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingering position
Dear Gianmaria,
here are two more options:
\fixed c' {
\once \override StringNumber.staff-padding = ##f
a8\3( b d'-5
\once \override StringNumber.extra-offset = #'(0 . -0.2)
c'\4 b a) r4
}
\fixed c' { a8\3_( b d'-5 c'\4 b a) r4 }
Cheers,
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Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM wrote: > > Congratulations, > Whatever. > Good luck. So much venom about drawing circles with slashes through them. You have made this the most unpleasant exchange I have ever taken part in on this list. I would invite you to be more civil in your future interactions with this community. Thanks, David Nalesnik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
Congratulations, Whatever. Good luck. On 2018-08-09 17:09, David Nalesnik wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:14 PM wrote: On 2018-08-09 14:32, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: > Neither of the snippets in this thread are under the GPL. Lilypond > itself is GPLv3, but LSR snippets are public domain and David's code > is MIT. If you are worried that you might be using the latter in an > objectional way, David N is the one you should talk to, although as > David K pointed out you are unlikely to be sued over copyright here. > > Also, not that it matters in this context, I don't think that the GPL > requires you to return your modifications to the original author. I > suggest reading more[2][3][4] about this license. > As mentioned I dont care about David's code, I will start from scratch from the snippet. I appreciate the link it is very helpful thank you. I have to taylor it my way and extend it as needed. You are right, the snippet is public domain and I rather follow that path than getting involved in mysterious MIT licenses. The snippet, incidentally, is by me. All the best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingering position
Gianmaria Lari writes:
> This code
>
> \version "2.19.82"
> \fixed c' { a8\3( b d'-5 c'\4 b a) r4}
>
> generate this
>
> image.png
>
> I don't like having some fingering above the slur (3) and some below it (5 &
> 4). How
> can I change this?
\version "2.19.82"
\new Staff \with { \override Fingering.avoid-slur = #'outside
\override StringNumber.avoid-slur = #'outside
}
\fixed c' {a8\3( b d'-5 c'\4 b a) r4}
Which looks worse.
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Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:14 PM wrote: > > On 2018-08-09 14:32, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: > > > Neither of the snippets in this thread are under the GPL. Lilypond > > itself is GPLv3, but LSR snippets are public domain and David's code > > is MIT. If you are worried that you might be using the latter in an > > objectional way, David N is the one you should talk to, although as > > David K pointed out you are unlikely to be sued over copyright here. > > > > Also, not that it matters in this context, I don't think that the GPL > > requires you to return your modifications to the original author. I > > suggest reading more[2][3][4] about this license. > > > > As mentioned I dont care about David's code, I will start from scratch > from the snippet. > I appreciate the link it is very helpful thank you. > I have to taylor it my way and extend it as needed. > You are right, the snippet is public domain and I rather follow that > path than getting involved in mysterious MIT licenses. The snippet, incidentally, is by me. All the best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyLuaTeX issues
I would appreciate if someone who understands the luatex compiler and
lyluatex well to help with this.
It is clear that lyluatex is the future. It is already solving hordes of
problems for me typesetiing music documents.
Unfortunately there is still a lot of work to do to get all or most
Lilypond code to work with it.
As an example, a very helpful gent on this group "Mason" directed me to
the public domain site "http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/html/whatsthis.html;
which contains great typesetting solutions.
I first check that the code I want to use there runs in Lilypond and it
does correctly.
However when I copy the code over into
\begin{lilypond}
\end{lilypond}
and compile with lyluatex they about all choke the luatex compiler.
I am suspicipous of my TeXLive installation though, so if it compiles
for you, it must be that.
TeXLive is really a step backwards in my opinion.
Anyway,
I attach an example file.
You can check that the lilypond section compiles correctly with
lilypond.
It however fails with lyLuaTeX
Error:
(lyluatex) LilyPond failed to compile the score.
(lyluatex) If you need more information
(lyluatex) than the above message,
(lyluatex) please retry with option debug=true.
(lyluatex)
(lyluatex) on input line 238
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'error'
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.lua:109:
in function
sr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.lua:108>
(...tail calls...)
./lyluatex.lua:633: in function 'check_compilation'
./lyluatex.lua:1171: in function 'write_latex'
./lyluatex.lua:1105: in function 'process'
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
\ly@compilescore ...directlua {ly.score:process()}
l.238 \end{lilypond}\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{lyluatex}
\begin{document}
hello
\begin{lilypond}
\version "2.18.0"
\header {
texidoc = "
This function is designed to simplify the creation of Roman numerals
for harmonic analysis.
Syntax: @code{\\markup \\rN @{ ...list of symbols... @}}
Enter a Roman numeral as a list of symbols, with each element separated
by spaces. List symbols in order of appearance, omitting those not
needed: Roman numeral; letter for a quality requiring a special
indicator (i.e., diminished, half-diminished, etc.); top (or only)
number of inversion symbol; bottom number; \"/\" (if secondary
function); Roman numeral.
Preceding either Roman numeral with \"s\" or \"b\" or \"n\" will attach
a sharp, flat, or natural: for example, \"svi\" or \"bVII\" (quotation
marks not needed). Note names are possible: Cs, Dn, Eb.
Use the following symbols for qualities (if a superscript indication is
needed): \"o\" for diminished, \"h\" for half-diminished, \"+\" for
augmented, \"b\" for flat. You may use any combination of \"M\" and
\"m\" here: M, mm, MM7, Mm, Mmm9, etc. Added notes are also possible:
add6, add9, etc.
The analysis can be created in a @code{Lyrics} context.
"
doctitle = "Roman numerals for analysis"
}
%% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=710
%% see also http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/formatting-text
%% A function to create Roman numerals for harmonic analysis.
%%
%% Syntax: \markup \rN { ...list of symbols... }
%%
%% List symbols in this order (as needed): Roman numeral, quality, top number of
%% inversion symbol, bottom number, "/" (if secondary function), Roman numeral.
%%
%% "bVII" creates flat VII; "svi" creates sharp vi; "Ab" creates A-flat; "As" A-sharp
%%
%% Qualities: use "o" for diminished, "h" for half-diminished,
%% "+" for augmented, "b" for flat. Use any combination of "M" and "m":
%% M, m, MM7, Mm, mm, Mmm9, etc. Added-note chords: add, add6, etc.
#(define rN-size -1) %% change to vary size of numerals
#(define scaling (magstep rN-size))
%%% change constant to adjust distance between characters
#(define X-separation (* scaling 0.2))
%%% symmetrical distance between inversion figures and midline
#(define inversion-Y-separation (* scaling 0.1))
#(define dim
(markup
#:override `(thickness . ,scaling)
#:draw-circle (* scaling 0.25) (* scaling 0.1) #f))
#(define half-dim
(markup
#:override `(thickness . ,scaling)
#:combine
(#:combine dim
#:draw-line `(,(* scaling -0.3) . ,(* scaling -0.3)))
#:draw-line `(,(* scaling 0.3) . ,(* scaling 0.3
#(define augmented
(markup
#:override `(thickness . ,scaling)
#:combine
(#:combine #:draw-line `(,(* scaling -0.25) . 0)
#:draw-line `(0 . ,(* scaling -0.25)))
(#:combine #:draw-line `(,(* scaling 0.25) . 0)
#:draw-line `(0 . ,(* scaling 0.25)
#(define (acc? str num) (string? number?)
(eq? num (string-index
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
Public domain works for me thanks. On 2018-08-09 15:42, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: You are right, the snippet is public domain and I rather follow that path than getting involved in mysterious MIT licenses. There's nothing particularly mysterious about the license. It is not a copyleft license, so unlike the GPL it does not ensure that the code will remain free when redistributed, but it is still a freedom-respecting license. If anything, "public domain" is unclear (when referring to copyrightable works whose copyright has not expired). Copyright is automatic in countries that signed the Berne Convention. Different countries have different processes for relinquishing one's copyright. In some countries it's not possible at all. "Public domain" could informally mean that the author simply does not intend to enforce their copyright, or it could mean that they have formally given up their copyright in one or more countries, which is not useful information unless we know which ones. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
fingering position
This code
\version "2.19.82"
\fixed c' { a8\3( b d'-5 c'\4 b a) r4}
generate this
[image: image.png]
I don't like having some fingering above the slur (3) and some below it (5
& 4). How can I change this?
Thank you, g.
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Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: > You are right, the snippet is public domain and I rather follow that path > than getting involved in mysterious MIT licenses. There's nothing particularly mysterious about the license. It is not a copyleft license, so unlike the GPL it does not ensure that the code will remain free when redistributed, but it is still a freedom-respecting license. If anything, "public domain" is unclear (when referring to copyrightable works whose copyright has not expired). Copyright is automatic in countries that signed the Berne Convention. Different countries have different processes for relinquishing one's copyright. In some countries it's not possible at all. "Public domain" could informally mean that the author simply does not intend to enforce their copyright, or it could mean that they have formally given up their copyright in one or more countries, which is not useful information unless we know which ones. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Compile PDF, PNG and SVG in one run?
Hi Urs, In never used lilypond to generate SVG files, always pdf. But I am using SVG for other purposes. If you have an svg-file, you might convert it automatically to pdf and png. For this reason I would concentrate on svg and use other programs (command line tools) to convert them to pdf and png. My 5cts Bernhard Am 07.08.2018 um 17:49 schrieb Urs Liska: > Hi, > > I have to produce multiple files from one .ly file, and since it isn't > actually one but >500 files I would like to make it automatic. Of > course I know how to achieve this with a wrapper script, but I'd > prefer to find a way with only one compilation (i.e. parsing) per file. > > I know I can produce PDF and PNG by using --pdf --png on the command > line but it seems impossible to have svg too. > > Is there anything I've overlooked? Would it be possible to somehow > store the parsed \score block and use something like ly:book-process > to produce different file formats? > > Thanks > Urs > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
Thanks that confirms it is the one I already found. I will get on it. I guess as initial poster this problem is solved. Thanks to all who responded. On 2018-08-09 14:52, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: If you still remember, what is the name of the snippet? The name is "Roman numerals for analysis" and this[1] is the link, although I can't promise that it will work any better with lyluatex. Mason [1] http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=710 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
Mason, grep gave me this, I guess that would be it thanks. Unless you used something else let me know. ./lsr-snippets-all-2018-08-09/scheme-language/roman-numerals-for-analysis.ly Anyway, thanks for the kind help, I think I am on my way. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Piano, voices and stem directions
Noeck wrote > Probably, that also means that using separate voices is the appropriate > syntax, isn’t it? Can I make the slur aware of other voices’ notes? Hi Joram, Sometimes, decisions whether to use separate voices, temporary parallel contexts, etc., are often more of a technical nature (coding-wise). But in this case, at least that's my personal opinion, I think we have to distinguish between the musical idea/content (the "illusion" created by the pianist) and how one can actually play all this with only two hands (and the sustain pedal). I'd see the musical line (the semiquavers, even with a phrasing slur) as one voice and therefore code it as one voice. The stem directions, to me, are mere hints for the player (very valuable hints, though). Rachmaninov managed to incorporate the intended rapid transitions between the two hands without having to clutter the music with m.g./m.d. remarks (main gauche/left hand, main droite/right hand) and he even hints about pedaling without clumsy \sustainOn/Off symbols. Pedaling is very delicate there, anyway, sometimes one might even use half-pedaling (not just on/off). Just using \stemUp and \stemDown seems appropriate to me, because it's one single voice (just being divided up into two hands for physiological reasons) and the dynamics stay where they are, it's easier to start and end phrasing slurs, … And, last but not least: these "encrypted playing instructions" are, just like fingerings in general, not carved in stone and hardly justify a strict separation of voices. Just look at the last two down-stemmed semiquavers in the measure: Some (most?) play them using the right hand, even if their stems are down. Later on, I'd still use a single voice that changes staves. A single voice for "the line" seems most natural to me. But opinions may differ, of course. All the best, Torsten -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 2018-08-09 14:32, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: Neither of the snippets in this thread are under the GPL. Lilypond itself is GPLv3, but LSR snippets are public domain and David's code is MIT. If you are worried that you might be using the latter in an objectional way, David N is the one you should talk to, although as David K pointed out you are unlikely to be sued over copyright here. Also, not that it matters in this context, I don't think that the GPL requires you to return your modifications to the original author. I suggest reading more[2][3][4] about this license. As mentioned I dont care about David's code, I will start from scratch from the snippet. I appreciate the link it is very helpful thank you. I have to taylor it my way and extend it as needed. You are right, the snippet is public domain and I rather follow that path than getting involved in mysterious MIT licenses. So we dont have to discuss that option anymore. I dont want to go there and will do it myself. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
ma...@masonhock.com writes: > On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: > > Also, not that it matters in this context, I don't think that the GPL > requires you to return your modifications to the original author. Definitely not. For one thing, copyright allows arbitrary private use of legally obtained copies (copyright maximalists don't want you to believe that). The GPL comes into play only for redistribution. It may be that the GPL has provisions for that in order to cover weird jurisdictions and/or clarify matters, but usually that is already covered by copyright law as such. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: > If you still remember, what is the name of the snippet? The name is "Roman numerals for analysis" and this[1] is the link, although I can't promise that it will work any better with lyluatex. Mason [1] http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=710 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 2018-08-09 14:32, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: Mason, Although, you indicated you dont intend to continue with your code which is a pit, it is what I will have to use in the man time. Are you referring to the first link I shared? That was to a snippet from the LSR. See here[1] for more information on what the LSR is. I don't know who the author of that snippet is, but it was not me. Ok I thought you did it sorry. If you still remember, what is the name of the snippet? I downloaded the archive, but cannot see it on 3rd glance. I will find it of course, but if you know off the top of your head it would save some time. I suspect that it would be easier to debug roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily until it works with lyluatex than to start from scratch. Either way, I'd be interested to see what you come up with. Nope I learnt the hard way with programming, that if I run into trouble with someone else or its program it is much much better time management just to do it yourself from scratch. "If you want to do it right you have to do it yourself" proved very profitable for me timewise. Good luck, Mason ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
On 08/09, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote: > Mason, > Although, you indicated you dont intend to continue with your code which is > a pit, it is what I will have to use in the man time. Are you referring to the first link I shared? That was to a snippet from the LSR. See here[1] for more information on what the LSR is. I don't know who the author of that snippet is, but it was not me. David's code appears to be an extension of that snippet, so while I have gotten a lot of use out of the original snippet I will use his superior one instead from now on. > I understand > the GNU license, but I ask anyway. I might want to extend your code to what > I need rather than to write a completely new routine and I will post back > the changes to you as the license require if I use your code. Neither of the snippets in this thread are under the GPL. Lilypond itself is GPLv3, but LSR snippets are public domain and David's code is MIT. If you are worried that you might be using the latter in an objectional way, David N is the one you should talk to, although as David K pointed out you are unlikely to be sued over copyright here. Also, not that it matters in this context, I don't think that the GPL requires you to return your modifications to the original author. I suggest reading more[2][3][4] about this license. > "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" clashes with lyluatex and does not > compile. I've never used lyluatex (though I plan to eventually) so I'm afraid that I can't help you with this. > I will definitely not be using "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" as it does > not work with lyluatex which is a prerequisite for me. > I will post a file showing that for David's perusal as it doesnt solve my > problem at all and I will rather write my own. I suspect that it would be easier to debug roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily until it works with lyluatex than to start from scratch. Either way, I'd be interested to see what you come up with. Good luck, Mason [1] http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/html/whatsthis.html [2] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html [3] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html [4] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: creating new accidental styles
Copying the list Em qui, 9 de ago de 2018 às 12:31, Simon Albrecht escreveu: > Hello Caio, > > I have been through this whole thing and created an include file for > baroque-style accidentals, which may serve as a model. Unfortunately, I > can't attach it, since I'm on the road. But I already sent it to the list > in a similar discussion, so it should be possible to find it. It's called > accidental-style-baroque.ily. > > HTH, Simon > Found it in the dev list. Thanks a lot, man. Let me see if I can do what I need now. Here is the link to the archive, if someone in the future needs to find it again: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2016-05/msg00119.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Piano, voices and stem directions
Thanks, Torsten, for confirming that. Probably, that also means that using separate voices is the appropriate syntax, isn’t it? Can I make the slur aware of other voices’ notes? Best, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Software playing lilypond's music sheets: releasing appimages
Hi Sam, Sounds like a very good idea! I downloaded the dumper and the player plus the files, but the player does not play them giving a message like 'Wrong file format (wrong header). And the dumper does not do anything when I open it, although it has been made executable. I have Linux Mint 64bit Cinnamon on my machine. Hope you can help me All best Emil -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
David,
FYI
"roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily"
does not work with lyluatex.
I test all includes against the headers of the lyluatex manual as the
headers contains everything I intend to use. So if an include doesnt
work with lyluatex manual headers I dont use it.
Attached is a file you can execute with
$] lualatex --shell-escape test2.tex
If you uncomment the include "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" it kills
the lilypond call.
If you comment it, lilypond works fine.
It happens regardless if you do the include in the lyluatex headers or
in the lilypond call.
Anyway, I dont need to hear back on this as I wont be using it, but I
just thought that you want to know if your program doesnt work under
certain conditions.
\PassOptionsToPackage{unicode=true}{hyperref} % options for packages loaded elsewhere
\PassOptionsToPackage{hyphens}{url}
%
\documentclass[]{lyluatexmanual}
%begin LRV-Added packages
%\usepackage{amsmath}
%end LRV-Added packages
\usepackage{tikz}
\usepackage{lscape}%Landscape printing between /begin{landscape../end{landscape}
%\usepackage{musixtex}
\usepackage{gensymb} %for \degree etc
\usepackage{pgfplots} %for cartesion coordinate system
\pgfplotsset{compat=1.8}%ditto
%
\usepackage[]{libertine}
\usepackage{amssymb,amsmath}
\usepackage{ifxetex,ifluatex}
\usepackage{fixltx2e} % provides \textsubscript
\ifnum 0\ifxetex 1\fi\ifluatex 1\fi=0 % if pdftex
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{textcomp} % provides euro and other symbols
\else % if luatex or xelatex
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX,Scale=MatchLowercase}
\fi
% use upquote if available, for straight quotes in verbatim environments
\IfFileExists{upquote.sty}{\usepackage{upquote}}{}
% use microtype if available
\IfFileExists{microtype.sty}{%
\usepackage[]{microtype}
\UseMicrotypeSet[protrusion]{basicmath} % disable protrusion for tt fonts
}{}
\IfFileExists{parskip.sty}{%
\usepackage{parskip}
}{% else
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\setlength{\parskip}{6pt plus 2pt minus 1pt}
}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\hypersetup{
pdfauthor={},
pdfborder={0 0 0},
breaklinks=true}
\urlstyle{same} % don't use monospace font for urls
\usepackage{color}
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\newcommand{\VerbBar}{|}
\newcommand{\VERB}{\Verb[commandchars=\\\{\}]}
\DefineVerbatimEnvironment{Highlighting}{Verbatim}{commandchars=\\\{\}}
% Add ',fontsize=\small' for more characters per line
\newenvironment{Shaded}{}{}
\newcommand{\KeywordTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.00,0.44,0.13}{\textbf{#1}}}
\newcommand{\DataTypeTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.56,0.13,0.00}{#1}}
\newcommand{\DecValTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.63,0.44}{#1}}
\newcommand{\BaseNTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.63,0.44}{#1}}
\newcommand{\FloatTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.63,0.44}{#1}}
\newcommand{\ConstantTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.53,0.00,0.00}{#1}}
\newcommand{\CharTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.44,0.63}{#1}}
\newcommand{\SpecialCharTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.44,0.63}{#1}}
\newcommand{\StringTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.44,0.63}{#1}}
\newcommand{\VerbatimStringTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.25,0.44,0.63}{#1}}
\newcommand{\SpecialStringTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.73,0.40,0.53}{#1}}
\newcommand{\ImportTok}[1]{#1}
\newcommand{\CommentTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.38,0.63,0.69}{\textit{#1}}}
\newcommand{\DocumentationTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.73,0.13,0.13}{\textit{#1}}}
\newcommand{\AnnotationTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.38,0.63,0.69}{\textbf{\textit{#1
\newcommand{\CommentVarTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.38,0.63,0.69}{\textbf{\textit{#1
\newcommand{\OtherTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.00,0.44,0.13}{#1}}
\newcommand{\FunctionTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.02,0.16,0.49}{#1}}
\newcommand{\VariableTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.10,0.09,0.49}{#1}}
\newcommand{\ControlFlowTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.00,0.44,0.13}{\textbf{#1}}}
\newcommand{\OperatorTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.40,0.40,0.40}{#1}}
\newcommand{\BuiltInTok}[1]{#1}
\newcommand{\ExtensionTok}[1]{#1}
\newcommand{\PreprocessorTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.74,0.48,0.00}{#1}}
\newcommand{\AttributeTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.49,0.56,0.16}{#1}}
\newcommand{\RegionMarkerTok}[1]{#1}
\newcommand{\InformationTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.38,0.63,0.69}{\textbf{\textit{#1
\newcommand{\WarningTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{0.38,0.63,0.69}{\textbf{\textit{#1
\newcommand{\AlertTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,0.00,0.00}{\textbf{#1}}}
\newcommand{\ErrorTok}[1]{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,0.00,0.00}{\textbf{#1}}}
\newcommand{\NormalTok}[1]{#1}
\setlength{\emergencystretch}{3em} % prevent overfull lines
\providecommand{\tightlist}{%
\setlength{\itemsep}{0pt}\setlength{\parskip}{0pt}}
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
% Redefines (sub)paragraphs to behave more like sections
\ifx\paragraph\undefined\else
\let\oldparagraph\paragraph
\renewcommand{\paragraph}[1]{\oldparagraph{#1}\mbox{}}
\fi
\ifx\subparagraph\undefined\else
\let\oldsubparagraph\subparagraph
\renewcommand{\subparagraph}[1]{\oldsubparagraph{#1}\mbox{}}
\fi
% set
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
David, FYI "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" does not work with lyluatex. I test all includes against the headers of the lyluatex manual as the headers contains everything I intend to use. So if an include doesnt work with lyluatex manual headers I dont use it. Attached is a file you can execute with $] lualatex --shell-escape test2.tex If you uncomment the include "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" it kills the lilypond call. If you comment it, lilypond works fine. It happens regardless if you do the include in the lyluatex headers or in the lilypond call. Anyway, I dont need to hear back on this as I wont be using it, but I just thought that you want to know if your program doesnt work under certain conditions. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond & Halfdiminished/Diminished symbols.
This post is directed to Mason & Pierre Schneider
Pierre, thank you for the following code.
It was a great help to write a routine to do things the way I want it to
display.
I am a good programmer and decades long LaTeX user but not a TeX
programmer, so your example helped me a lot to understand how this
should be approached. It does basically what I want.
\version "2.19.82"
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
}
}
{
s2^\markup {
\combine \draw-circle #.8 #.2 ##f
\translate #'(-.75 . -.75)
\override #'(thickness . 2)
\draw-line #'(1.5 . 1.5)
}
s^\markup\concat\vcenter { \teeny\flat "7" }
\bar ""
}
Mason,
Although, you indicated you dont intend to continue with your code which
is a pit, it is what I will have to use in the man time. I looked
through my mails and did not see that you provided a link to your code.
I understand the GNU license, but I ask anyway. I might want to extend
your code to what I need rather than to write a completely new routine
and I will post back the changes to you as the license require if I use
your code.
I primarily use lyluatex and David's stylesheet
"roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" clashes with lyluatex and does not
compile. It seems there might be an &$& escape arising during execution
which is not predictably interpreted by lyluatex.
I will definitely not be using "roman_numeral_analysis_tool.ily" as it
does not work with lyluatex which is a prerequisite for me.
I will post a file showing that for David's perusal as it doesnt solve
my problem at all and I will rather write my own.
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
..OOps sorry here without bold :
\tempo \markup {\general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1.5 \normal-text "= 40
c.a" }
It is not as clean as Thomas' example but it works for me.
Best
And thank you all
K
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:35:14 -0400
> From:
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> On 8/9/2018 8:50 AM, Thomas Morley wrote:
> > 2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad :
> >> Hello List,
> >>
> >> Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a
> >> \note markup ?
> >> I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a
> >> tempo indication but it is not happening.
> >>
> >> Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the
> >> \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup.
> >>
> >> I will be very gratefull for a solution.
> > \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
> >
> > HTH,
> >Harm
> >
>
> If you use the modern flag in the metronome/tempo mark, how can you
> include the circa markup while preserving the modern as well?
>
> I can't quite figure out the correct code. Here's what I have so far.
> Thank you!
> (img attached)
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> \language "english"
>
>
> % I'd like to have a modern flag while keeping all of this formatting
> the same but simply add a "ca" to it.
> \new Staff \with {
> ? instrumentName = #""
> ? shortInstrumentName = #""
> }
> \relative c' {
> ? \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
> ? \tempo Allegro 8 = 120
> ? c d e f
>
>
> }
>
> % i.e. How can I make the 120 look like the above, instead of the bold
> 'markup' appearance?
> \relative c' {
> ? \tempo \markup {
> ??? \concat {
> ? \smaller \general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1
> ? " = "
> ? \tiny
> ?? "ca."
> ? \hspace #0.25
> ? "120"
> ??? }
> ? }
> ? c1
> ? c4 c' c,2
> }
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
Dear Ben,
This is what I use hope it helps :
\tempo \markup {\general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1 "= 40 c.a" }
Best
K
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>
> --
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:35:14 -0400
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> On 8/9/2018 8:50 AM, Thomas Morley wrote:
> > 2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad :
> >> Hello List,
> >>
> >> Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a
> >> \note markup ?
> >> I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a
> >> tempo indication but it is not happening.
> >>
> >> Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the
> >> \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup.
> >>
> >> I will be very gratefull for a solution.
> > \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
> >
> > HTH,
> >Harm
> >
>
> If you use the modern flag in the metronome/tempo mark, how can you
> include the circa markup while preserving the modern as well?
>
> I can't quite figure out the correct code. Here's what I have so far.
> Thank you!
> (img attached)
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> \language "english"
>
>
> % I'd like to have a modern flag while keeping all of this formatting
> the same but simply add a "ca" to it.
> \new Staff \with {
> ? instrumentName = #""
> ? shortInstrumentName = #""
> }
> \relative c' {
> ? \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
> ? \tempo Allegro 8 = 120
> ? c d e f
>
>
> }
>
> % i.e. How can I make the 120 look like the above, instead of the bold
> 'markup' appearance?
> \relative c' {
> ? \tempo \markup {
> ??? \concat {
> ? \smaller \general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1
> ? " = "
> ? \tiny
> ?? "ca."
> ? \hspace #0.25
> ? "120"
> ??? }
> ? }
> ? c1
> ? c4 c' c,2
> }
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
Dear Thomas, Thanx a lot ! Best K On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:50:21PM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad : > > Hello List, > > > > Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a > > \note markup ? > > I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a > > tempo indication but it is not happening. > > > > Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the > > \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup. > > > > I will be very gratefull for a solution. > > \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag > > HTH, > Harm -- Karim Haddad email : karim.had...@ircam.fr webpage : http://karim.haddad.free.fr ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
creating new accidental styles
I'm trying to experiment with different accidental styles. So far, I just
want to understand how do I customize them, I installed a new instance of
lilypond 2.19.82 and tried to tinker with the music-functions.scm file
located by default at lilypond/current/scm/
As far as I understand, accidental styles are set in the definition of
accidental-styles (line 1769 of the current version). In this definition,
there is an alist containing each of the accidental styles. The first thing
I tried to do is to change the definition of the "default" style to:
(default #t
(Staff ,(make-accidental-rule 'same-octave #t)) ;normally it
would be 0 instead of #t
())
This would, in principle, change the default behaviour to the same as
"no-reset" style, but when I try to compile a simple music file, say:
\version "2.19.82"
test = \relative c' {
cis d e d |
cis d e d
}
\new Staff \with {
% \accidentalStyle default %I tried with and without this line
}
{
\test
}
I see no effect. I thought that lilypond read the definitions in
music-functions.scm every time I ran it. Am I wrong?
My end goal is to create a couple of accidental styles that reflect rules
I've being usoing in some engravings for contemporary music:
- for music that has bar lines:
-- show the accident for each note, except when immediately repeated (like
neo-modern)
-- cancel accidentals no matter how many measures after and (perhaps) no
matter in what octave (i have to experiment with this last one to see if
it's really necessary)
- for music without bar lines:
-- same rules for note cancellation as the last one, but showing
accidentals for each note, even the repeated ones (like forget)
Caio
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
2018-08-09 15:35 GMT+02:00 Ben :
> On 8/9/2018 8:50 AM, Thomas Morley wrote:
>
> 2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad :
>
> Hello List,
>
> Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a
> \note markup ?
> I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a
> tempo indication but it is not happening.
>
> Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the
> \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup.
>
> I will be very gratefull for a solution.
>
> \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
>
> HTH,
> Harm
>
>
> If you use the modern flag in the metronome/tempo mark, how can you include
> the circa markup while preserving the modern as well?
>
> I can't quite figure out the correct code. Here's what I have so far. Thank
> you!
> (img attached)
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> \language "english"
>
>
> % I'd like to have a modern flag while keeping all of this formatting the
> same but simply add a "ca" to it.
> \new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = #""
> shortInstrumentName = #""
> }
> \relative c' {
> \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
> \tempo Allegro 8 = 120
> c d e f
>
>
> }
>
> % i.e. How can I make the 120 look like the above, instead of the bold
> 'markup' appearance?
> \relative c' {
> \tempo \markup {
> \concat {
> \smaller \general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1
> " = "
> \tiny
>"ca."
> \hspace #0.25
> "120"
> }
> }
> c1
> c4 c' c,2
> }
>
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\relative c' {
%% !!
\override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
\tempo \markup {
%% !!
\normal-text
\concat {
\smaller \general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1
" = "
\tiny
"ca."
\hspace #0.25
"120"
}
}
c1 c4 c' c,2
}
Also, you may want to have a look at:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1008
HTH,
Harm
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
On 8/9/2018 8:50 AM, Thomas Morley wrote:
2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad :
Hello List,
Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a \note
markup ?
I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a tempo
indication but it is not happening.
Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the
\Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup.
I will be very gratefull for a solution.
\override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
HTH,
Harm
If you use the modern flag in the metronome/tempo mark, how can you
include the circa markup while preserving the modern as well?
I can't quite figure out the correct code. Here's what I have so far.
Thank you!
(img attached)
%%%
\version "2.19.82"
\language "english"
% I'd like to have a modern flag while keeping all of this formatting
the same but simply add a "ca" to it.
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = #""
shortInstrumentName = #""
}
\relative c' {
\override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
\tempo Allegro 8 = 120
c d e f
}
% i.e. How can I make the 120 look like the above, instead of the bold
'markup' appearance?
\relative c' {
\tempo \markup {
\concat {
\smaller \general-align #Y #DOWN \note #"8" #1
" = "
\tiny
"ca."
\hspace #0.25
"120"
}
}
c1
c4 c' c,2
}
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Re: modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
2018-08-09 13:57 GMT+02:00 Karim Haddad : > Hello List, > > Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a > \note markup ? > I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a > tempo indication but it is not happening. > > Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the > \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup. > > I will be very gratefull for a solution. \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag HTH, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or markup
Hello List, Is there a way to have a modern-straight-flag in tempo indication or in a \note markup ? I tried different tweaks, to get a straight flag for an eight note in a tempo indication but it is not happening. Even if \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag is declared in the \Score context it apparently doesn't work for tempo or markup. I will be very gratefull for a solution. Thank you all. Best -- Karim Haddad ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Barcheck failure warnings for lyrics in parallel mode
"Galen Menzel" writes:
> On 8 Aug 2018, at 14:10, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> "Galen Menzel" writes:
>>
>>> So basically explicit bar markings and lyrics just don’t play
>>> nicely
>>> together?
>>
>> And auto-length lyrics. If you give the lyric syllables explicit
>> durations and not use \lyricsto/\addlyrics but just set
>> associatedVoice
>> and \lyricmode appropriately, you can write bar checks into the lyrics
>> perfectly well. Note that bar checks indicate that your lyrics _are_
>> written to match a given rhythm at seminal points, so there is some
>> motivation to either put none of the rhythm into the lyrics (and let
>> them get autotimed using \addlyrics/lyricsto) or put all of it in and
>> use explicit durations.
>
> Ok, that makes sense. Looks like this is just a rough edge, where the
> requirements of auto-length lyrics are in conflict with the
> requirements of parallel notation. I’ll look into explicit duration or
> suppressing the warning.
You could just remove the bar checks from the lyrics selectively, like
lyrics_b = #(map-some-music (music-type-predicate 'bar-check) lyrics_b)
However, that would not get you rid of the warnings because of music
with unequal length. The warnings are intended for locating problems:
removing them has its own problems. Have you considered specifying your
lyrics with durations, like \lyricmode { one 2. two 4 } (spaces before
durations are optional)?
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