Re: Text placing in two-choir pice

[Michael Gerdau]

Hi Jogchum,

> I can't see a mistake from my side, so is it a bug? If yes, in Lilypond 
> of in Frescobaldi? If not, can anyone point me to my mistake?

it is a mistake on your part. The names of your voices in the two choirs are 
the same. Name them differently, adjust the \lyricsto accordingly and it should 
work.

Kind regards,
Michael
-- 
Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de
GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver

Re: cueDuring woes

[N Trocado]

Does that make things clearer for you ?
Yes it does. Thank you Xavier and Pierre-Luc for your help.
Nuno

Re: cueDuring woes

[Pierre-Luc Gauthier]

Quotes (and cues) are special.

I guess you could see them as a tape playback. When you request a
portion to be quoted, LilyPond gets the reel and rolls back the music
up to that quote and then starts the actual quoting. So, in your
example, you were actually quoting measure 2 of \oboeB which is empty
or non existent. I hope this makes sense.

You need to keep them in sync for them to quote the good stuff at the
right time.

violin = {
\violinA
\violinB
}
\addQuote "violin"

I use quotes extensively for stuff like dynamics and what not which
often resembles as :
hornDynamics = {
s1*32 |
s1\< <>\! |
}
\addQuote "hornDynamics" \hornDynamics

Does that make things clearer for you ?
Quotes can be quite funky.
--
Pierre-Luc Gauthier

Le sam. 10 avr. 2021 à 14:13, N Trocado  a écrit :
>
> What's wrong with the snippet bellow? It doesn't print the cue notes, unless 
> I remove \fluteA and \oboeA.
>
> \version "2.19.55"
>
> fluteA = {
>   r1
> }
>
> oboeA = {
>   r1
> }
>
> fluteB = {
>   \cueDuring #"oboeB" #DOWN { R1 }
> }
>
> oboeB = {
>   c4 c c c
> }
>
> \addQuote "oboeB" { \oboeB }
>
> \score{
>   <<
>   \new Staff { \fluteA \fluteB }
>   \new Staff { \oboeA \oboeB }
>   >>
> }
>


-- 
Pierre-Luc Gauthier

Re: who is behind omet.ca [I am]

[Mike Blackstock]

Hi there. My apologies for not responding earlier...it seems gmail is
'hiding' lilypond-user messages and I haven't been seeing them.

I've been maintaining omet.ca for over 10 years, but I don't promote it,
hence the absence
of an 'impressum' or 'about page'. The 'about page' is on my personal site:
https://blackstock.media

re: "First having to register before knowing anything about what the site
provides looks most suspicious"

I agree... it should have a landing page like the one at blackstock.media -
with an
option to register right in the page.

re: "There is no https://omet.ca to refer to either"

omet.ca is just a redirect to ide.omet.ca... that was a quick fix to deal
with
a technical issue I was having

The platform being used is 'os-js'  (https://www.os-js.org/) and it's the
perfect
platform for developing a 'cloud Frescobaldi', as someone mentioned. Its
developer Anders Evanrud is aware of omet and has been keen to implement
features that I've suggested.

re. "heavy computing.ca" - that's the VPS service I'm using for some of the
things I do. It's located in Toronto Canada, in the so-called 'telco hotel'
on Front St.

The compilation server is located in my own studio... i want to be able to
keep
a close eye on it to see what kinds of load are placed on it when scores are
being compiled.

Cheers,
Mike



On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:30 AM Stefan Thomas 
wrote:

> Dear community,
> a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a very
> interesting and useful site.
> But I didn't find there an impressum.
> Who are the people behind this site? Can I trust them?
> Does someone of You know something about them?
> Thanks,
> Stefan
>


-- 
https://blackstock.media

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Xavier Scheuer]

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 11:11, Stefan Thomas 
wrote:
>
> Dear Thomas,
> I've seen these two links before too. But the question remains: Who is
the owner of the website?
> Can we trust them?

Hello,

He also set up a modern fork/clone of the moribund Mutopia Project.
https://blackstock.media/

https://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/mailman/private/mutopia-discuss/2020-October/001029.html
(Mutopia-discuss Archives are only available to the list members)

And he sent several messages on lilypond-user as well. Quite easy to reach
him IMHO. I've copied his e-mail addresses.

Cheers,
Xavier

-- 
Xavier Scheuer 

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[ebenezer]

I confess I rarely know (if ever) who is behind a web site. It usually 
becomes apparent very quickly if a web site is worthwhile.


That said, I doubt I would ever be as productive as I am today without 
all the tools and knowledge that I have gained over the years from this 
web thing.


I would imagine omet.ca is trustworthy, I mean, they don't ask for 
credit card details!


Also consider that trust is a two-way street, the website owners are 
trusting you not to trash their website by exploiting vulnerabilities in 
their code...



On 2021-04-11 10:11, Stefan Thomas wrote:

Dear Thomas,
I've seen these two links before too. But the question remains: Who is 
the owner of the website?

Can we trust them?
Stefan

Am So., 11. Apr. 2021 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley 
mailto:thomasmorle...@gmail.com>>:


Am So., 11. Apr. 2021 um 09:30 Uhr schrieb Stefan Thomas
mailto:kontrapunktste...@gmail.com>>:
>
> Dear community,
> a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a
very interesting and useful site.
> But I didn't find there an impressum.
> Who are the people behind this site? Can I trust them?
> Does someone of You know something about them?
> Thanks,
> Stefan

I found:
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=7229
and on our own website:
https://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html

Cheers,
  Harm

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Sven Axelsson]

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 11:11, Stefan Thomas 
wrote:

> Dear Thomas,
> I've seen these two links before too. But the question remains: Who is the
> owner of the website?
> Can we trust them?
> Stefan
>

Trust in what way? Anyhow, the site is owned by Mike Blackstock, as
mentioned before. You can get more information about him and the OMET site
here. https://blackstock.media

-- 
Sven Axelsson
++[>++>+++>++>++
><-]>.+..>+.>+.<<-.>>+.>.<<.
+++.>-.<<++.>>.<++.>>>++..>>.<.

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear Thomas,
I've seen these two links before too. But the question remains: Who is the
owner of the website?
Can we trust them?
Stefan

Am So., 11. Apr. 2021 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley <
thomasmorle...@gmail.com>:

> Am So., 11. Apr. 2021 um 09:30 Uhr schrieb Stefan Thomas
> :
> >
> > Dear community,
> > a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a very
> interesting and useful site.
> > But I didn't find there an impressum.
> > Who are the people behind this site? Can I trust them?
> > Does someone of You know something about them?
> > Thanks,
> > Stefan
>
> I found:
> https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=7229
> and on our own website:
> https://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm
>

Re: Bug or by design?

[Kevin Barry]

Hi Aberforth,

Thank you for letting us know. This definitely looks like a bug. I
couldn't find another issue that covered it, so I have created issue
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6114 to track it.

Kevin

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Thomas Morley]

Am So., 11. Apr. 2021 um 09:30 Uhr schrieb Stefan Thomas
:
>
> Dear community,
> a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a very 
> interesting and useful site.
> But I didn't find there an impressum.
> Who are the people behind this site? Can I trust them?
> Does someone of You know something about them?
> Thanks,
> Stefan

I found:
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=7229
and on our own website:
https://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html

Cheers,
  Harm

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Kevin Barry]

I created a user/pass and logged in. It's an online IDE for LilyPond,
and looks nicely done too - kind of like a Frescobaldi in the cloud. The
splash PDF you see when you first log in says:
ONLINE MUSIC ENGRAVING TOOLS
An Integrated Development Environment
Compose, arrange, and collaborate with Lilypond
Mike Blackstock

It seems to be hosted by a Canadian company called Heavy Computing, and
just googling the name suggests the author is based in British Columbia,
but I can't remember ever seeing that name on the mailing list.

If I had to guess I would say this is a work in progress, which is why
we haven't heard about it (but it's just a guess).

Kevin

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:31:19AM +0200, Jacques Menu wrote:
> First having to register before knowing anything about what the site provides 
> looks most suspicious…
> 
> JM
> 
> > Le 11 avr. 2021 à 10:08, Andrew Bernard  a écrit :
> > 
> > As far as I know,only Germany requires an 'impressum'. It is not used or 
> > required on other websites. But people often provide an about page. if not 
> > you wonder why.
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > 
> > Stefan Thomas wrote on 11/04/2021 5:29 PM:
> >> Dear community,
> >> a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/  which 
> >> seems to be a very interesting and useful site.
> >> But I didn't find there an impressum.
> >> 
> > 
> 

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Andrew Bernard]

The same thing I thought.

There is no https://omet.ca to refer to either.

Andrew

Jacques Menu wrote on 11/04/2021 6:31 PM:
First having to register before knowing anything about what the site 
provides looks most suspicious…


JM

Bug or by design?

[Aberforth D - Instrumentals]

Hello,

I've come along a problem that made me wonder if this is by design or a bug
that could be fixed in future versions. I'm still on version 2.20.0 so
maybe it has been fixed already. In that case, sorry for lagging behind.

The problem seems to occur when an accidental (in this case a natural) is
implicit because the note is tied (see example code below). There is an
ugly gap between the two naturals in the 2nd bar and the half-note chord.
At first I thought this was to avoid a collision with the tie, so I tried
to move the tie up, to no avail. I also tried shifting the whole note in
the first voice to the right side of the note column, but that also didn't
help.

At some point I removed the tie and noticed that the implicit natural of
the whole note exactly filled the gap. When I removed the stencil of the
accidental grob the problem was solved (uncomment the comment line in the
example).

Once you know this, it's easy to fix but when you first come across it,
it's hard to figure out what the problem is. It seems quite unnecessary
that the hidden natural still occupies space, but maybe there is a good
reason why it was programmed this way?

Thanks for your attention. Best regards,

Aberforth D


\version "2.20.0"
\language "english"

partA = {
  \key e \major \time 4/4 \clef "G"
  \voiceOne
  g''1~ |
  %\once \override Accidental.stencil = ##f
  g''
}

partAb = {
  \key e \major \time 4/4 \clef "G"
  \voiceTwo
  2( 4 4) |
  2( 2)
}

\score {
  \new PianoStaff = "pianostaff" <<
\new Staff = "RH" <<
  \new Voice = "RH1" \partA
  \new Voice = "RH2" \partAb
>>
  >>
}

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Jacques Menu]

First having to register before knowing anything about what the site provides 
looks most suspicious…

JM

> Le 11 avr. 2021 à 10:08, Andrew Bernard  a écrit :
> 
> As far as I know,only Germany requires an 'impressum'. It is not used or 
> required on other websites. But people often provide an about page. if not 
> you wonder why.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> Stefan Thomas wrote on 11/04/2021 5:29 PM:
>> Dear community,
>> a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/  which 
>> seems to be a very interesting and useful site.
>> But I didn't find there an impressum.
>> 
> 

Re: who is behind omet.ca

[Andrew Bernard]

As far as I know,only Germany requires an 'impressum'. It is not used or 
required on other websites. But people often provide an about page. if 
not you wonder why.


Andrew


Stefan Thomas wrote on 11/04/2021 5:29 PM:

Dear community,
a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a very 
interesting and useful site.

But I didn't find there an impressum.

who is behind omet.ca

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear community,
a few days I discovered https://ide.omet.ca/ which seems to be a very
interesting and useful site.
But I didn't find there an impressum.
Who are the people behind this site? Can I trust them?
Does someone of You know something about them?
Thanks,
Stefan