Re: Best way to center beam between upper/lower staff?
Thus said Aaron Hill on Thu, 07 Mar 2024 23:58:21 -0800: > Is `\autoChange` [1] what you were looking for? Well, I had looked at \autoChange but it seems to add extra staves when used with multiple voices. I had also looked at Beam.auto-knee-gap and it didn't seem to make any difference either. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I think I'll just stick to using a variable as Werner suggests (I was already doing that but wondered if I was missing some obvious feature). Thanks, Andy
Best way to center beam between upper/lower staff?
Hello,
This has to be a FAQ, yet all my searching turned up a mixed bag.
I'm trying to have some notes cross from the lower staff to the upper staff but
want the beam to automatically center. In my example this is accomplished in
measure 3 with much manual work. Is there a better way?
%%%
\version "2.22.2"
\score {
<<
\new PianoStaff {
<<
\new Staff = "up" {
<<
\new Voice {
\relative c'' {
R1
a4 g f e
e f g a
}
}
>>
}
\new Staff = "down" {
<<
\clef "bass"
\new Voice {
\relative c {
\voiceOne
d4 e f g
r8 a \change Staff = "up" c \change Staff = "down" a \change
Staff = "up" d \change Staff = "down" a \change Staff = "up" e' \change Staff =
"down" r
r8 a, \change Staff = "up" \stemDown c \change Staff = "down"
\stemUp a \change Staff = "up" \stemDown d \change Staff = "down" \stemUp a
\change Staff = "up" \stemDown e' \change Staff = "down" \stemNeutral r
}
}
>>
}
>>
}
>>
}
%%%
Thanks,
Andy
Re: Using __ extender in lyrics
Thus said Hans Aikema on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 18:46:46 +0100:
> A solution to it is to put an empty lyric ("") on the parenthesised f
> when there are no lyrics for it
That's so simple and I don't know why I didn't think of doing just that
(hindsight and all that) instead of trying to use \skip or the
underscore.
Thanks,
Andy
Using __ extender in lyrics
Hello,
I seem to have some fundamental misunderstanding about how the __
extender is to be used in lyrics. It seems that under some conditions
it doesn't behave as I would expect but I may be doing it wrong.
Given the following example, what am I doing wrong? It works fine for
stanza 3 as I would expect, but for stanzas 1 and 2 it seems that what
I'm doing causes the extender to go beyond where I would expect it.
It there any better way than what was done in stanza 4 because the fake
extender never seems to have the correct length---it's either too short
or too long? Perhaps something could be done differently with the
musical expression?
%%%
\version "2.22.2"
\paper {
#(set-paper-size "letter")
}
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff {
<<
\new Staff {
<<
\time 12/8
\new Voice = "voice" {
\relative c'' {
a8 b c r4. r a8 b c
d,( e4~) e4. r4 \parenthesize f8 g g a
g2. r
}
}
>>
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" {
\set stanza = "1. " Sing -- ing o sing -- ing a |
song, __ _ sing -- ing a
song.
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" {
\set stanza = "2. " Some -- one sang. They sang a
song, __ \skip 1 a -- bout no --
thing.
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" {
\set stanza = "3. " Sang a song? Who sang a |
song? __ I sang a long
song.
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "voice" {
\set stanza = "4. " Here a song. The song is |
"gone,_" _ I can -- not
sing.
}
>>
}
>>
}
%%%
Thanks,
Andy
Re: Volta spanner missing edge when using "|" as endRepeatType
Thus said Thomas Morley on Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:47:06 +0100: > \allowVoltaHook = "|" > placed toplevel, should do the trick. Thanks, for the archives, the correct syntax is (without the "="): \allowVoltaHook "|" Works great. Andy
Volta spanner missing edge when using "|" as endRepeatType
Hello,
I want to place an interlude that happens only the first time through a
a section that has a repeat and a second interlude for the second time
through. I don't want the repeat measure bar showing up in the middle of
the piece, so I set the endRepeatType to "|", but when I do that, the
right edge of the volta spanner loses the stright edge line. I've tried
various combinations of bars to see if I can get it to work but haven't
succeeded so far.
I also tried just using a solid line Text spanner but couldn't find a
way to get any text "inside" the spanner (only on the ends).
Any clues on how this could be done?
%%%
\version "2.22.2"
voltaprima = \markup { \text \italic { First time only } }
voltaseconda = \markup { \text \italic { On repeat only } }
\relative {
c''1
\repeat volta 2 {
c
\once \set Score.startRepeatType = "|"
\set Score.endRepeatType = "|" % or "||"
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list (list 'volta voltaprima) 'start-repeat)
c4 b d e
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list (list 'volta #f) (list 'volta voltaseconda)
'end-repeat)
c b a b
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat)
f'1
\set Score.endRepeatType = ":|."
e
}
\alternative {
{ d }
{ a' }
}
f \bar "|."
}
%%%
Thanks,
Andy
Re: How to align second repeat verse against second voice
> Reading the rhythm would be easier if you replaced two of the dotted > quarter notes with an eighth note tied to the following quarter note. Yes, that's a great suggestion too and in fact I had already been considering that very modification. Thanks, Andy
Re: How to align second repeat verse against second voice
Thus said Aaron Hill on Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:51:44 -0800: > Probably the easiest the option is to \set associatedVoice to > temporarily align your lyrics to the alternate notes. The important > quirk of associatedVoice is that you must make the change a syllable > ahead of when you need it: I see, yes, this works quite well, thank you. It also cleans up some other tricks I had employed to try to get the text aligned (specifically I had some manual \break and also extended the voice longer than it needed to be). Thanks, Andy
How to align second repeat verse against second voice
Hello,
I have a piece with two verses in a repeat. The second time through
there is a slight alteration in one of the measures which adds
additional notes. I've been able to accomplish this using a temporary
voice, but I'm not sure if this is the best way as the words "ma - mo
mu" end up shifted down another line. Here is the smallest section that
I could provide, but I wonder if I can align the text better?
\version "2.18.2"
\paper {
#(set-paper-size "letter")
}
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff {
<<
\new Staff {
<<
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\new Voice = "first" {
\relative c' {
\partial 4
c8 c
\repeat volta 2 {
a b4. r4 a8 c
<< % maybe there is a better way?
{ \voiceOne c4. d8 d8. }
\new Voice = "second" {
\voiceTwo \tiny c4 c8 d8 \normalsize }
>> \oneVoice e16 f8 c
a c4 c4. d8 e
}
\alternative {
{ f4 r2 c8 c }
{ f2( d4) c8 c }
}
f1 \bar "|."
}
}
>>
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "first" {
lo lo |
la -- la la -- la |
la, la la la la la --
la la. la la la |
lu mo mo
mo __ mi me
ru
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "first" {
\repeat unfold 2 { \skip 1 }
mo -- mu. mi me |
\repeat unfold 2 { \skip 1 } ma ma mi me |
mu -- mo. ma mi -- mi
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "second" {
ma -- mo mu % this ends up shifted down below the second verse
}
>>
}
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
}
}
}
Re: WARNING: SPAM / MALWARE being sent to list members
Thus said Jean Abou Samra on Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:53:25 +0200: > Let's not get into a debate about this on the list. We can discuss it > privately if you like. Not worth debating. I was hoping that whatever is generating spam in response to list posts would send me something. Andy
Re: WARNING: SPAM / MALWARE being sent to list members
Thus said Jean Abou Samra on Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:28:12 +0200: > Luckily, we have technologies (SPF and DKIM) that can guarantee an > email is sent from the owner of the sender address, and if an email > doesn't pass SPF/DKIM, it's very likely to be blocked by your spam > filter. Unfortunately SPF and DKIM are terrible hacks and wholly unnecessary. Andy
Re: Wanting to leave list
Thus said David Kastrup on Sat, 17 Jun 2023 18:44:54 +0200: > Some mail clients may, for that reason, even have a dedicated > "Unsubscribe" button. But you can always look in the headers. It's a shame that something like mailing list headers isn't made easy by Gmail to Gmail's users. They seem pretty adamant in their crusade to force everyone to use SPF and DKIM (without having giving their users a voice in the matter), but won't help their users figure out how to use mailing lists by giving them a nice easy button to use. Andy
Re: Accent on single note of chord?
Thus said Jean Abou Samra on Sat, 24 Sep 2022 22:17:26 +0200: > Are you asking this because you saw this notation in a printed score, > or because you want to use it even though it's nonstandard? Yes, the attachment that I included in my original email was a snippet from an actual printed score. I can certainly imagine that just the C from the chord wants additional emphasis over the rest of the chord. Andy
Accent on single note of chord?
Hello,
Has anyone come across notation where only a single note in the chord
has an accent?
I had hoped that it might just work by placing the accent within the
chord, but alas it did not:
\version "2.18.2"
\relative {
4 e-5>
}
See attached.
Thanks,
Andy
How to cause voice order to reverse?
Hello,
How can I have Lilypond reverse the order of voice placement as
described here for the entire score?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#-Voice-order
Trying to get the second voice to come after the first voice as far as
engraving order (in the note columns) and resorting to force-hshift is
how I'm doing this, but I would rather just have Lilypond reverse the
order.
Also, notice that the dots in the second example of shifting show up in
a single column rather than closer to the actual note. It seems odd to
have all the dots out like that marching in a row.
http://www.lilybin.com/uhwrfx/2
First score shows the problem. Second score shows what I've done to try
to "improve" it.
\score{
\new Staff <<
\time 2/4
\voiceOne
\relative c' {
d4 d16 e d8~
d8 c4 d16 c
4. f8
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
\relative c' {
b2
f'
d4. e16~ e
}
}
>>
\layout{}
\midi{}
}
\score {
\new Staff <<
\time 2/4
\relative c' {
d4 d16 e d8~
d8 c4 d16 c
4. f8
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
\relative c' {
b2
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 1.5 f'
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 1.5 d4. e16~ e
}
}
>>
}
Thanks,
Andy
End pedal optionally with text.
Hello,
I'm trying to accomplish something similar to attached image where the
sustain pedal ends without showing the line. In ASCII:
Ped. __/\
Optionally, it would be nice to follow it with something like:
Ped. __/\ con ped.
I've been able to eliminate the bracket, but somehow have not been able
to get rid of the line:
Ped. __/\_
Using something like:
\version "2.18.2"
\relative c' {
\set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'mixed
a b c d\sustainOn
e \once\override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.edge-height = #'(1 . 0) f
\sustainOff \sustainOn g \sustainOff a
}
I've tried altering Staff.SustainPedalLineSpanner but clearly I do not
understand what it is for. Even hiding it has no effect.
Is there some documentation for this that I've missed? Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Andy
Re: How to shift trill to below phrasing slur?
Thus said Thomas Morley on Tue, 01 Dec 2020 21:07:22 +0100: > avoid-slur is the correct method: Is see, thank you! The problem was apparently I didn't know that the \trill was part of Script object (I think that's the term) so I had put the avoid-slur property on the wrong thing. Thanks, Andy
How to shift trill to below phrasing slur?
Hello,
I have a small section of music that has a trill that Lilypond places on
top of a phrasing slur, but I would like it beneath (between the staff
and the slur).
I've tried to use:
-\tweak Y-offset #-3 \trill
And it doesn't seem to have any effect at all (even though modifications
to the X-offset do). I've also looked at the avoid-slur property but I'm
not sure I know how to use it (and attempts I've made haven't seemed to
make a difference).
Here's MWE:
\version "2.18.2"
\score {
{
\time 12/8
\relative c' {
a8 b\( c a b c d e f d e f
g a b g a b c2.
d2.\trill \grace { c16 d } e2.\)
}
}
}
Thanks for any suggestions.
Andy
Convert from Personal Composer to Lilypond?
Hello, I searched the archives (and also search engines) and couldn't find a discussion about converting Personal Composer (.pc files) into Lilypond, so I thought I would ask if anyone knows of a conversion tool. I could manually engrave it again from the PDF output that I have, but it would be quicker if there is a tool for conversion. Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005a2d8c3f ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [OT] Linux Users
Thus said "Brett M. Gilio" on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:59:27 -0600: > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any > of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather > than graphical tools? I wonder if analysis of the user-agent strings from the web server logs for lilypond.org would be of any value in this inquiry. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005a108e63 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: old f-clef
Thus said Stanton Sanderson on Thu, 29 Jun 2017 16:59:54 -0500: > Still, it would have been better to have asked about the older f-clef > before starting the project, which is in recognition of the 500th > anniversary of the Reformation. Sounds like an interesting project. I'm familiar with this particular bass clef, and in fact, had been wondering myself how to construct it with Lilypond. Now that you've brought it up, I have a potential solution. I'm also looking for a way to engrave this particular C clef: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Far_Above_Cayuga%27s_Waters_1906.png I assume a similar method could be used to as in the old-style F clef. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005955bd82 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New LilyPond website
Thus said John Roper on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:58:35 -0500: > jmroper.com/lilypond I never got to see the originally proposed changes. At any rate, consider my opinion as just another nobody's voice in the crowd, one of many non-stakeholder LilyPond users, but personally, I like lilypond.org's current CSS; however, that's not to say it cannot be improved. I like the bolder, darker text that I see on the original site. It seems that the text on the new proposed site is not as dark or as bold; maybe even grey? Text should stand out. It should be dark. Sometimes it should be bold; judiciously used of course like it is with the current main banner that says: LilyPond ... music notation for everyone Why hide or mute text that is intended to be read? The boxes on the right-hand side make it harder for me to pick out valuable information because they blend in more with the background (are less defined). On the original site, while there are no boxes, there are big green header-like things (I'm not a web designer so pardon my lingo) that stand out. On the old site, the links don't wrap. What I see on the new proposed site has wrapping going on all over in the right-hand boxes. Hopefully you have an email client that will render this properly, if not, I imagine there are some email archives that will do it justice. What I see basically amounts to: Stable Release Download 2.18.2 Manuals 2.18.2 Unstable Release Download 2.19.15 Manuals 2.19.15 This is likely due to the way I browse (e.g. I don't use a browser full screen but instead split my real-estate with other windows). Also, the menu/banner across the top has muted colors for the foreground text which makes it more difficult to see the individual options. LilyPond stands out, as does Home, but all the rest are a fainter white than before. With lilypond.org, they were a solid white, maybe somewhat bold, and easily readable. Now they look diminished, muted and don't even get much more legible when I hover my mouse over them. If you're interested, I can send you a screenshot. Anyway, just my $0.02. :-) Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 4000583e7d59 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
