Re: defintion for metrelessness (help?)
Thanks. But that's what I'm doing *now. I'm trying to save lots of time by obviating the need for it. Perhaps I didn't make that part clear enough. Right now I have a list of predefined barlines, one of which is Z = \bar\break and I stick that particular one wherever I want the break. That's not _quite_ the same as what I suggested; if you drop the \break part and put a \Z everywhere that you could _live_ with a break, it might work better. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: defintion for metrelessness (help?)
A _slightly_ cleaner option might be to leave barAlways set and put a \noBreak in those spots where a break is unacceptable. If there aren't many, that might be cleaner. But still not very clean, unfortunately. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: defintion for metrelessness (help?)
O, I see. You meant \bar . I think you typed \break and I thought that this was new syntax for a bar and break at the same time. Sorry. I'm the one who should be sorry; I did type it wrong. For the record, I'd like a cleaner solution, too. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: defintion for metrelessness (help?)
What I do in similar situations is something like this: pb = \break and then insert a \pb at every spot in the music where I'm willing to tolerate a break. Needless to say, that results in a really messy input file, but it does get the job done. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Font Troubles (Windows - 2.11.20)
1) inside a \lyricsto section of words, I can't seem to get digits to appear in the output. I'm trying to use the lyrics context to typeset roman numerals for chord indications under the system. Have you tried quoting the numbers: 23? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problems with lyrics of a gregorian chant piece
I've got some problems with the lyrics of an gregorian chant piece. The text doesn't fit under the notes correctly. What have I done wrong or what can I do to correct it? According to this: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Ligatures#Ligatures lyrics do not correctly align with ligatures. Gregorian support in LilyPond is still not complete. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: response character
The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text symbol that is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it. Does anyone know of a lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this? I've looked for such a thing in the past without success. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pitch notation
The octave check feature http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Octave-check#Octave-check makes it possible to catch relative octavation errors fairly easily, if that's a real problem. I don't see a need to complicate the lilypond syntax further to deal with this. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Would it be possible to implement something like Perl's use strict pragma? That would let people who need to do something quick-and-easy do so, while encouraging more formal structure in general. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyric and Stanza collision
I'm wondering if you couldn't avoid this by adding bar lines to the lyrics context and making them invisible. This _might_ make the lyrics dodge them automatically (though I make no guarantees). In practice, I've just left multiple syllable lyrics centered at the end of a phrase (not the beginning), and I think usually under a note of longer value (whole or even breve). Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frustrated with Chant Notation -- Convert-ly or Lily4jEdit plugin bug?
I finally figured out that the only way to represent chant lyrics is to associate the first syllable and last syllable with their own notes then quote the text in between so it centers under the breve. This is the only way to force all of the lyrics to center under its own measure. Actually, it isn't, at least if I understand correctly what you want. I use this to left-align a note under its syllable: \once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #-1 today he is born, the Savior I think you can change that #-1 to #0 to force center-alignment. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Another Chant Notation Question
Does it have to be brackets? Parentheses are a lot easier. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Another Chant Notation Question
Parentheses will work. I've seen it both ways. Try this: http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilypond.html#parentheses If necessary, I think you can set up a one-note chord. I haven't tested it recently, but AFAIK nothing was done to break it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Absolute Beginners
Geoff, I took away plainchant. Should I mention other things, like proportional notation or whatever? I don't know--I've never used proportional notation (at least not knowingly). comes the c that is a fourth above the g instead of a fifth below, an so forth. and so forth (yet another one that spellcheck won't find) You set the clef naming the one you want: in the preceeding example, we wrote alto instead of treble. Other clefs are called: by naming instead of just naming You can amuse yourself writing away melodies, trying things and see how they look. Don't worry, if what you write is impossible and does not compile, you will get an instructive error message in the little process log window we mentioned at the beginning and no printout, but you won't crash the program. Actually, it is sometimes possible to crash the program, but that indicates a bug in LilyPond; I believe the developers are committed to making hard crashes extinct. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Absolute Beginners
If you are using a Mac, be glad and open a new LilyPond window. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here, but be glad and open a new LilyPond window is not a very idiomatic English expression. Perhaps you meant, please open a new LilyPond window? Then write this inside: type instead of write? The so-called curly braces snip are essential. You must always write your music inside such brackets. It would be better to call them brackets or braces consistently, rather than switching. Then, LilyPond has certain pre-set values, called defaults, which will apply whenever you do not ask for something different. Stylistically, I would drop the Then, here. You can, of course, change these and all other defaults, indeed you can engrave old plainchant, contemporary notation, orchestral scores, do MIDI files, and more. This is a comma-spliced sentence--it contains two independent clauses without a conjunction. Either insert a period/full stop after defaults and capitalize Indeed, or change the comma after defaults to a semicolon: defaults; indeed In our example, we have written each note with an octave denomination: one apostrophe: Octave denomination is clear only if one only knows what it means already. Can you rewrite this paragraph? You can analyze the exercise and see that a third has been preferred to a sixth, a fourth to a fifth, etc. This also is confusing. I know what you mean, but it doesn't come out clearly. Perhaps pointing out a specific instance in the example where the behavior is different with \relative than without it would be better. Don't worry just yet about the naturals. We'll come to it in a moment. It is not clear from the context what it refers to in the second sentence. You change the clef changing the denomination treble for You're using denomination here (and elsewhere) in a way that is not common in English. You can amuse yourself writing all possible and also impossible examples of simple melodies, and see what happens. Don't worry, whatever you type, you can't break it... What does it refer to? Working fine? Then let's go for sharps and flats. Just name the notes: In this section: If you're writing for native English speakers, I would also teach the use of \include english.ly and use the English notation for sharps and flats; I would venture to guess that most amateur English-speaking musicians do not know what is and es mean. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Absolute Beginners
In this section: If you're writing for native English speakers, I would also teach the use of \include english.ly and use the English notation for sharps and flats; I would venture to guess that most amateur English-speaking musicians do not know what is and es mean. I might add that it's always seemed rather odd to me that the default for accidental naming is non-English when everything else in LilyPond is English. I'm certain it's too late to fix it now, but I remember struggling with this naming convention back when I was first using LilyPond, around 1.6 or so. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Absolute Beginners
Geoff, there is indeed a fist in English, not the first, but hitting harder than a spell check. Here's with the corrections (is corrections the right English word?) It is indeed. A few other things I noticed in reading through it again: You can, of course, change these and all other defaults; indeed you can engrave old plainchant, contemporary notation, orchestral scores, do MIDI files, and more. But all that lies further down the road. For the moment, we will teach you how to engrave a simple melody. Plainchant engraving doesn't work well at the moment, so you might want to omit mentioning it here. You can analyze the exercise and see that the first note e appears a third above middle c rather than a sixth below; the same happens with the following g in relation to the preceding e; then comes a c a fourth above the g instead of a fifth below, an so forth. then comes a c a is confusing. It looks at first glance as if both as are pitches, not the English indefinite article. I can't come up with a good way to fix this at the moment. You change the clef changing the term treble to Would word be better than term? Also, the most recent preceding example used an alto clef. If the examples are numbered, you could refer to the one you want. You can amuse yourself writing all possible and also impossible examples of simple melodies, and see what happens. Don't worry, whatever you type, you can't break it... I would change that last sentence, because it is easy enough to type things that won't compile, and a new user might well regard that as breaking it. (Please note that this is not necessarily the way you are used to naming the notes, just a quick, logical and easy way to work with LilyPond.) Can you perhaps add something like: If you would prefer to use more familiar names, see the section in the manual on note names in other languages.? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help
I was afraid of this kind of answer, if define-music-function cant do something as simple as replace one note on a \transpose without writing a whole bunch of code... I'm not going to bother with it myself. Too much complexity, I'd rather look for something that will let me stay on a user-level, I just dont have time for programming. I've been using m4 myself. The devs seem strongly resistant to the idea of a built-in preprocessor. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Doublequotes in markup?
What's the right way to typeset doublequotes in markup? The expression ...
\markup { The word andante should appear between quotes. }
I guess it wouldn't. Can you use the character code instead? Or set
real left and right double-quotes, which LilyPond doesn't use for
anything else?
Geoff
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Re: lilypond-book in two-column mode?
Can you try it again in landscape mode, please? Your example and mine
both work in portrait and both fail in landscape.
Thanks,
Geoff
On 12/15/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following example works without problems with LilyPond 2.10 over here:
\documentclass[a4paper,twocolumn]{article}
\usepackage{anysize}
\marginsize{1cm}{2cm}{3cm}{1cm}
\begin{document}
\begin{lilypond}
\repeat unfold 10 { c' d' e' f' }
\end{lilypond}
\newpage
\begin{lilypond}
\repeat unfold 10 { c' d' e' f' }
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}
/Mats
Geoff Horton wrote:
Has anyone tried to use lilypond-book with LaTeX and the twocolumn
option set in the documentclass statement? (e.g.,
\documentclass[letter,twocolumn]{article})
The first column is taking up most of the page and shoving the second
column off the right-hand side. I don't know whether this is because I
need to tell lilypond-book something, or LaTeX something, or whether
the entire quest is completely hopeless. Oh, and I'm using the anysize
package to set margins.
If nobody knows how to make this work, I can keep experimenting
tomorrow, but I thought it worth asking in advance.
OSX 10.4, LilyPond 10.2, pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5).
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Re: lilypond-book in two-column mode?
I hope you remember to add the flag dvips -t landscape Thanks! That fixed it, though it wasn't a case of remembering to add the flag--I'd never seen it before. I'll send Graham a documentation addition on that. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book in two-column mode?
Are you really trying to put two pages on one sheet? If so, I find LaTeX understands it better if I just tell geometry what size the page is, and then use pdfnup to put two pages on one sheet. That is indeed what I'm doing. For now, Mats' fix works without my having to learn about a new LaTeX macro, but I'll take a look at your suggestion when I'm not under as much of a time crunch. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond-book in two-column mode?
Has anyone tried to use lilypond-book with LaTeX and the twocolumn
option set in the documentclass statement? (e.g.,
\documentclass[letter,twocolumn]{article})
The first column is taking up most of the page and shoving the second
column off the right-hand side. I don't know whether this is because I
need to tell lilypond-book something, or LaTeX something, or whether
the entire quest is completely hopeless. Oh, and I'm using the anysize
package to set margins.
If nobody knows how to make this work, I can keep experimenting
tomorrow, but I thought it worth asking in advance.
OSX 10.4, LilyPond 10.2, pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5).
Geoff
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Re: Two lyrics questions
1: I want to begin a word with a ( . I need to do this to indicate how a vowel is to be pronounced - e.g. (ch)il(d) . I've tried various things - using escape sequences as described in the manual, preceeding the bracket with a \ etc. but nothing gives me clean output (i.e. without other characters.) Is there a way of doing this? Enclose it in double quotes, like this: (ch)il(d). I've never tried to do what you describe in your second question, so I can't help you there. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding lyrics in poetry format? (old style hymn books)
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/More-about-stanzas.html#More-about-stanzas You didn't mention what version you're using; this was added to the 2.10 manual, but it works back to the 2.8 series. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unable to get Lilypond-mode working for Xemacs
Everything I know about getting emacs into LilyPond mode is here: http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilymacs.html Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond and editors
On 12/7/06, Thomas Scharkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious: what's wrong with jEdit? Thomas Editors are one of those things that really depend on personal taste. It may just be that I've been using emacs for too long, but jEdit drove me nuts. Others have their favorite way of doing things, and jEdit may or may not work well with that. So what's wrong with jEdit? Nothing, if it fits the way you work. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond and editors
Often one can gain productivity by fitting his way of work to the editor :-) Bert Sometimes, yes. Often ... I don't know about that, and I'm not really a fan of the idea. Tools exist for me; I don't exist for tools. I don't mean to discourage anyone from trying jEdit. I did. I prefer something else. YMMV :) Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff
Sorry, it seems that you (or somebody else) will need to recreate the examples. If you create an example for SATB, please also write something for the general case (ie going in a not-specifically-vocal-music location). Can you (or someone) suggest a use for this in a non-vocal situation? I'd rather do something at least marginally useful, but I can't think of a time it'd be used. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff
As an aside, I have used \override Score . LyricText #'font-size =
#'-2 in each block of text to reduce the size of the font, but I'm
sure that it must be possible to do this globally.
It is. Add to your layout:
\context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-2
}
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Re: Tutorial
Add this to the end of your \score block:
\layout {
indent = 0.0\cm
}
If you already have a layout block, just add that to it.
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Re: Tutorial
I added this and it worked in itself, but now the bar number
engraver, wich I had removed, is back again.
You can have multiple things in the \layout block, like this:
\layout {
indent = 0.0\cm
\context {
\Score
\remove Bar_number_engraver
}
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Re: Setting lyrics to an invisible note?
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Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff
When I need to make a score like that, I use the undocumented but still working \alignAboveContext command; it seems a little less confusing to me. Is this command slated to disappear, or does it need to be in the manual (I just checked and it still isn't there)? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff
etc. Then, Part B should follow on from Part A (for example, a verse
and chorus). I have managed to get the music to be placed correctly,
but I have so far had no success getting the words of Part B appearing
anywhere, let alone with the correct music. Is there an example
anywhere showing this being done?
\context Lyrics = lyricsname \lyricsto part { \sopWordsPartA \sopWordsPartB }
(I think--I didn't test it.)
Also, can someone please explain
the significance of the { s1 } in the \new Lyrics lines? I cannot
find any reference to this anywhere in the manual.
That's one way I know this isn't my template--I am really not fond of
setting up parts that way. What s1 does is to create 4 beats (i.e., a
whole note) worth of silence, so
\new Lyrics = sopranos { s1 }
creates a new context for lyrics with, essentially, nothing in it. The later
\context Lyrics = sopranos etc.
line goes back and fills it in.
Hope that helps.
Geoff
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Setting lyrics to an invisible note?
Working with reciting tones again Say I've got a line of text like this: The first words; now the second words I want the words all sung on the same pitch, and I want it shown only once, with the first words. But the harmonies change on the word now, so I need a second, invisible, melodic note for them to align to. Is there an easy way to do this? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SATB vocal score example
In section D.4.1 of the manual for 2.8.7, there's nice example of a
SATB score.
I think that's my contribution :)
\global is not a keyword; it's defined at the top of the example, like this:
global = {
\key c \major
\time 4/4
}
In this case, omitting it makes no difference because those are the
default settings for LilyPond anyhow (blank key signature, 4/4 time).
Try changing the definition to
global = {
\key d \major
\time 3/4
}
and I think you'll see a difference.
(Graham, should the manual example be changed?)
Geoff
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Re: SATB vocal score example
When I look at it more closely, I don't think that example is something I contributed. But my explanation still holds. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: which language for programming
Lilypond also makes fairly extensive use of Scheme, which might be easier to learn. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pitch/ octave notation
Is it possible to indicate pitches in the format c4 instead of c'? No, and I don't think it's possible because LilyPond will interpret the digits 1, 2, and 4 after a pitch as referring to duration, not octave. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord, variables and comments [beginner]
The granddaddy, (developed in 1966), of macro processors ML/I is also free and ported to many platforms. I'm currently evaluating which one I like better myself, so far I am leaning towards ML/I because it has nested if/then/else/end and do/while structures, and it lets you fully define the syntax and delimiters of your home-made macro language. M4 has all of that but the do-while, and I've had considerable success with it. Maybe I'll try to whip up a web page on it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pitch/ octave notation
Is it possible to indicate pitches in the format c4 instead of c'? And if not, does anybody know of any plans to create this possibility? I'm wondering if this might not be something that relative music input could help with. Are you familiar with it? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Apostrophe in lyrics
I have lyrics with apostrophes, like in there's and can't. When printed, I get minute marks (primes, Unicode U+2032). How can I obtain a decent apostroph glyph (U+2019), other than by entering the UTF-8 code manually in the .ly source? That's the only way I know of. I'd enter it once and copy-and-paste it everywhere else it goes, unless it's really easy for you to do the manual entry. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Apostrophe in lyrics
But can I make a definition and expansion in lilypond? Wouldn't it be nice? But I really don't think it's possible. You could run your code through a macro preprocessor (I use m4) and get that effect, though. I believe I've heard rumblings of something of the sort being built into the LilyPond 3 series, but I'm not a developer so don't hold me to it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: After install
Richik, please hit the reply to all button when you're replying to Bonnie's messages. If you don't, we can't see your followup questions. Even if someone else could help, they can't see the answers. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Folding a line of lyrics
Actually, the rest of the lyrics on the first line is better. This
looks like exactly what I want. Thank you!
Geoff
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One possibility is
\lyricmode{ ... \markup{\column{\line{ The first line would go like this }
\line{and the second would continue here }}} and then the rest of the
line }
however, then the lyrics after the multi-line section will continue on the
top line, not the bottom line as you had sketched below. One workaround
for that could be to use \override LyricText #'extra-offset = ... to move it
down.
/Mats
Geoff Horton wrote:
I'm trying to set some music with _extremely_ long sets of words
attached to one reciting tone. Lilypond sees that, freaks, and sets
one measure per line, which doesn't look at all good. (2.9.27, OSX.)
I'm looking for a way to set up something like this in the lyrics:
The first line would go like this
and the second would continue here and then the rest of the line
I could do it by creating a dummy second verse with words only in that
one particular spot, but that doesn't sound like fun and would require
manual editing of the files after I run them through m4. Is there an
easier way?
Thanks,
Geoff
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Folding a line of lyrics
I'm trying to set some music with _extremely_ long sets of words attached to one reciting tone. Lilypond sees that, freaks, and sets one measure per line, which doesn't look at all good. (2.9.27, OSX.) I'm looking for a way to set up something like this in the lyrics: The first line would go like this and the second would continue here and then the rest of the line I could do it by creating a dummy second verse with words only in that one particular spot, but that doesn't sound like fun and would require manual editing of the files after I run them through m4. Is there an easier way? Thanks, Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bravo and extra stanzas question
As Simon said, 2.4 is obsolete (very) and I strongly suspect the suggestions I'm about to give won't work. I would update if at all possible. Then, in addition to what's in the manual, you can try what I show here: http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilypond.html#moreverses for more complicated situations. (Graham, would you object if I take a shot at revising that section of the manual to incorporate a little more complexity?) Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: installing emacs lilypond-mode
http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilymacs.html is how I did it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: old way of vertically centering refrain no longer works
So, my question is, what is the correct way to vertically center a refrain shared by several stanzas? A real hack method is simply to include it only in the middle stanza Verse one line one Verse one line two Verse two line one Verse two line two Refrain line Verse Three line one Verse Three line two Kind of like that. It's not as good with an even number of verses, where you just have to pick one of the middle two and have it be a little off center. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin IMO, it's better to do this: export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/Apps/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin That way the existing path is still used, even if it's set somewhere else (say, /etc/profile). I agree. I revised that several times and must have ended up with the wrong stuff in the line. 8) Type CtrlX, which closes the editor. All of these can be condensed to $ cat export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/Apps/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin ~/.profile (or something like that; please test it before suggesting a doc change) The reason I'd rather not do that is if someone makes a typo when entering that line, they're going to have to know how to use a raw-text editor to fix it anyhow, or end up with a bunch of extra export PATH lines and extra stuff in their PATH. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
I think you missed a significant step. That file can't run straight through LaTex. You need to run it through lilypond-book first, as described in section 12.6 of the Lilypond 2.6 manual. (Look for Invoking lilypond-book in the table of contents.) Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
However, and my apologies for being so dim, how do I run it throught lilypond-book? Are you using Windows, Max OSX, Linux, or what? Also (though it shouldn't matter), what version of Lilypond are you using? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
I use Mac OS X. Lilypond version 2.8.5-1
Cool. OK, then assume your input file is named sample.lytex. (Naming
it sample.tex would also work, but you'll probably want that name
for something else, as you'll see.) You probably can't do this within
TexShop (I don't use it), so fire up a Terminal and change to whatever
directory your files are in.
Type:
lilypond-book --psfonts sample.lytex
You'll probably get some messages of various sorts. If they don't look
like error messages, you can proceed. If they do look like error
messages, there's probably something weird in the input file
(sample.lytex) that you need to fix.
Assuming there were no errors, lilypond-book created a new file named
sample.tex (which is why you don't want to use that name for your
input file in the first step). So feed that file to LaTex by typing
this at the command prompt:
latex sample.tex
Again, you'll get messages. If none of them are fatal errors, you can
proceed with:
dvips -o -h sample.psfonts -Ppdf sample.dvi
It might complain about missing fonts, but that shouldn't matter. You
should be able to type:
ps2pdf sample.ps
This will produce sample.pdf, which is your output file.
BTW, I would avoid using the \begin{lilypond} syntax and go with
\lilypondfile instead. That way, you can test all the lilypond files
and get the bugs out of them first.
It might be possible to do all this with TexShop if it has a command
shell in it somewhere. I'm still new to OSX and hadn't even heard of
it before, so I might try it and see what happens.
Geoff
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Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
Thanks a lot for this! As I expected, I fell at the first hurdle. Can you give me an idea of what should be in the sample.lytex files? When I type lilypond-book --psfonts sample.lytex I get this error: cd '/Users/peter/Piano course/Latex/' Welcome to Darwin! ip5455a71f:~ peter$ cd '/Users/peter/Piano course/Latex/' ip5455a71f:~/Piano course/Latex peter$ lilypond-book --psfonts sample.lytex -bash: lilypond-book: command not found ip5455a71f:~/Piano course/Latex peter$ The problem is not with your file. The problem is that the Mac can't find the lilypond-book program (that's what the -bash: lilypond-book: command not found means). I've got Lilypond installed on my Mac but I've never actually used it there, so I'm not sure if it sets things up automagically to make that program findable. If there are any Mac experts out there, now's your time to step forward, please, and I'll learn from the answers, too. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond + LaTex (on Mac)
Thanks, Graham. So here's what Peter (and I) need to do, assuming that you moved the LilyPond app off your desktop and into the Applications folder: 1) Open a new terminal window. 2) Type: nano 3) In the program that opens, type CtrlR. Type .profile and hit Enter. You'll probably get a message: .profile not found, which is fine. If that's what happened, skip to step (6) 4) Look in the file that loaded and see if it has a line that begins: export PATH= If it doesn't, then go on to step (6). 5) Move the cursor to the end of line that begins: export PATH= and add this to the end of it: :/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin Make sure to hit Return at the end of that line, and make sure not to add any spaces before the colon, which has to be there. My line looks like this: export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin (It's all on one line, with a space between export and PATH, like this: export PATH Upper and lower case makes a difference! Now skip to step (7) 6) Type: export PATH=$PATH:/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin 7) Type CtrlO (that's a letter o, not a numeral 0). When it prompts with File to save, type: .profile and hit Enter. If it asks if it's OK to overwrite, you should be able to say Yes safely if you followed the instructions above. Note that I am NOT responsible if, instead of doing anything useful, your computer does something catastrophic, or just quits working the way you want it to. It shouldn't happen, but I make no guarantees. 8) Type CtrlX, which closes the editor. 9) Type: exit and hit Enter 10) Close the terminal window. 11) Open a new terminal window and see if lilypond-book works now. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \lyricsto not working with Devnull
Is it possible to add the melody line with invisible notes and turn off collision detection? I should think it would end up lining up right. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Changing polyphonic per-voice rest position
edit Looks like I spoke too soon. The b4\rest syntax (or in my case, because of bass clef, d4\rest) did not work. I suppose its the same bug, or at least related. I think I'll just move to 2.8.6. /edit That's not a bad thing, but you can also fix the problem by using: \oneVoice d4\rest \voiceOne (or \voiceTwo or whatever). Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two-column stanzas
What you want to do is to stack them side-by-side using markup
commands, rather like this:
\markup {
\fill-line {
\hspace #1.0 % add more of these at the beginning and end
\hspace #1.0 % to move the verses closer together
\column {
5. The fifth verse goes here
With all its many lines
}
\hspace #3 % The argument does matter here!
\column {
6. The sixth verse goes here
With all its many lines
\hspace #1.0 % Delete these at beginning and end
\hspace #1.0 % if the verses are wide and you need room
}
}
}
If you need to put verses on top over verses, like this
Verse 3 Verse 4
Verse 5 Verse 6
You can make a column of verses using code like this:
\markup {
\large {
\fill-line { % This centers the words, which looks nicer
\hspace #1.0 % gives the fill-line something to work with
\column {
4. Verse four's first line
And verse four's second
Is followed by a third line
And then by a fourth
\hspace #1.0 % (Basically inserts a blank line; the argument
is irrelevant)
5. Verse five's first line
. . . etc. . . .
}
\hspace #1.0 % gives the fill-line something to work with
}
}
}
Hope that helps.
Geoff
On 9/12/06, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First of all, as I have just recently started to learn LilyPond, thanks for a
great software. It seems to handle almost anything regarding music.
However, I cannot find out how to add lyrics or stanzas into two or more
columns after the score (like verse 2 and 3 side by side). How can this be
done?
I have searched the archives, but nothing comes up.
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
http://www.bodvar.net
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Re: Changing polyphonic per-voice rest position
You can take one of two courses of action here: 1. Update to a more recent version of Lilypond (this bug was fixed a couple months ago) -OR- 2. \override Rest #'staff-position = #0.0001 A third option is to use the b4\rest syntax in section 6.1.6 of the manual (2.8.6 version). Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Change to Gregorian Transcript template?
I must have never before used this on anything with an accidental in it, because I just noticed some undesirable (to my mind) behavior. (2.8.6 Windows version, docs to match.) Consider a line like this: a bf a a \divisioMinima g a b I think most chants wouldn't show a natural sign before that final b, but Lilypond will set one. That can be turned off by placing a #(set-accidental-style 'forget) right after the Score.timing line, and that's what I'd suggest doing in the template. This would be the correct default behavior in most cases, I believe. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Quote within markup
http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilypond.html#quote
On 7/12/06, Palmer, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings -
I'm grateful for LilyPond, and for all the work a number of you are
putting into the program and the documentation. I can find answers to
most of my questions, although some take some experimentation. At this
stage, my biggest difficulty, I think, is understanding the syntax -
some commands come before notes, some are attached to the backs of
notes, and I'm not clear about the relationship between Scheme and
LilyPond.
My immediate problem is adding quotation marks within a markup. Nothing
I've tried works. LilyPond appears to interpret the quotation marks as a
command to keep the (my quoted) text together. My latest attempt:
e'''2 r2 ^\markup { \center-align { \line { (to aud.): A TRIO. }}}
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time and attention,
Ralph
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Re: Quote within markup
e'''2 r2 ^\markup { \center-align { \line { (to aud.): \A TRIO.\
Backwards :)
\A TRIO\'
ought to do it.
Geoff
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Re: Re: Mixing text and notation
I want to have a preambel, that is split in two columns.
\markup {
\fill-line {
\hspace #1.0 % add more of these at the beginning and end
\hspace #1.0 % to move the columns closer together
\column {
The first column
goes here
}
\hspace #3
\column {
The second column
goes here
\hspace #1.0 % Delete these at beginning and end
\hspace #1.0 % if the columns are wide and you need room
}
}
}
==
Off the top of my head, I don't know if it's possible to get the two
columns to flow automatically.
Geoff
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Re: Evolutionary User Strategery
I have been looking on and off at m4 macros for the sort of music I'm typesetting. The advantage to this is that, if LilyPond changes something, I might just have to change a macro definition or two and re-compile. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different staff sizes?
p.s. Graham -- shouldn't we try to implement some standards/ conventions within the various examples in different parts of the documentation? e.g., here the Staff is explicitly instantiated *WITHIN* a \relative block, whereas other docs have the other way around, or use variables, or... I imagine this would be *very* confusing to newbies (or even some non-newbies like myself, for example)!? Also, this example has a commented line (not included here, for clarity's sake) which would just add to the confusion! =) I'm of two minds about this. Consistency does have strong advantages, but when there are various ways to do the same thing, it can help to see examples of all so that I can choose the one most appropriate for what I want to do. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unmetered troubles...
perhaps the \time 14/4 should be \time 15\4 in the next to the last line? And for this reason, I strongly suggest using the barcheck feature. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: different notehead styles
Read the NEWS for version 2.8. The \tweak command hasn't made it into the main manual yet. It's in section 9.2.6. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notes in parentheses, horizontal brackets, midi from TabStaff
1/ Is it possible to place some noteheads into the parentheses? Yes. See the \parenthesize command in 9.2.6 of the manual, assuming you're using a 2.8 version of LilyPond. It's possible to do it in 2.6 versions, but on the messy side. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TEX output
I forgot an point: with lilypond-book I get a font (emmentaler-20) which causes errors for dvips, I did not get it working to install this font properly. I think getting lilypond-book to work will be both the easier and the better approach in the long run. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Sorry for prolonging this thread... but have you taken a look at David Raleigh Arnold's Lilypond Tools? None of the hits for _David Raleigh Arnold Lilypond Tools look like the right site. Am I missing something? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Could be this: http://www.openguitar.com/lyutilities.html I think so. Thanks! Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
As far as I understand, it should be trivial to make a
version of define-music-function where the user doesn't have to add
these arguments manually, so the syntax is
#(new-define-music-function (arg1 arg2 ... ) (typecheck1 typecheck2 ... )
#{ordinary LilyPond code using $arg1 $arg2 ... #}
}
I think that would satisfy most of my needs.
Geoff
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Re: Macro pre-processing?
I don't understand the point of this discussion. I do appreciate the help that you and others so readily give, and I'm sorry you didn't like my statement, but I stand by it. (Please note that I'm not arguing for a large change in the way things work--that's David's argument, if he wants to make it.) LilyPond is a great program, but some things that ought to be easy are far too hard to do for a person who doesn't know the internal workings of the program very well. I'm not arguing for doing away with Scheme entirely, or hiding the internals entirely. Nor am I saying that I shouldn't have to dive in and learn more if I want to do something that really is complex (or live without being able to do it). But I look at the examples I and others have given, and I simply don't see why they should require knowledge of LilyPond internals to accomplish. As LilyPond has matured, has its ease of use has quite kept pace with its output capabilities? If the goal is to make it easy for many people to make beautiful-looking music, isn't it worth checking now and then to see if there are simple ways to make that easier? Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
This is the point I really want to jump on. After the first two or three emails, this descended into the usual pointless spat over ease-of-use and documentation. Stop talking about it, and start doing something! If we all spent half as much time _working_ on the docs that we've spent _talking_ about them, they'd be twice as good by now. In two weeks, when I'm done with finals, I'll revisit my roughed-out preprocessor and see if it can be made usable and easy. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
Using the techniques currently available in LilyPond, Erik's example
is easily implemented as:
foo = #(define-music-function (parser location x y) (ly:music? ly:music?)
#{
c8 $x d8 $y #})
{ \foo e16 { f g }}
As you see, you don't really need any Scheme competence to do it.
I question that. I think it looks easy to you because you already know
how it all works and fits together. I do agree that adding some more
examples to the manual would help greatly.
Geoff
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Re: Block diagram of LilyPond
What target group do you have in mind? Unless you are a programmer, I don't really see how it would help an ordinary music typesetter. Well, it could help those of us who'd like to help out more with development but don't have a clear conception of how stuff fits together. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Macro pre-processing?
\define-music-function {\foo \x \y} { c8 \x d8 \y }
...
{ \foo e16 {f g} }
=
{ c8 e16 d8 {f16 g16} }
The usefulness of this kind of function is disputed among developers, so it
might not become part of the official lilypond distribution.
I am not a developer (though I do read the dev list), but I would
certainly use such a thing if it existed, and it would do most of the
things (and maybe all of them) for which I wanted a pre-processor.
Geoff
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Re: Set vs. Override - I'm confused
In 2.8 there's an essential difference between grob and context properties, which is visible for end-users: the \tweak command only makes sense on layout object properties, not on context properties. This difference might make it easier for new users to understand grob properties. Might, but doesn't. I have to agree. It seems an arbitrary distinction. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Non-syllabic prepositions?
Is it possible to declare it somehow in the LilyPond lyrics mode?
I.e. that LilyPond does not print these words to individual notes, but it
interprets it as one group together with the first syllable of the following
word? For example, writing
\addlyrics { v le -- se }
\addlyrics { v le -- se }
Geoff
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Re: Non-syllabic prepositions?
Thank you both very much! Everything's alright now. But is it described somewhere in the manual? I didn't noticed that... I don't see it there. Hmm. It does say that an underscore would have the same effect, so you could try v_le -- se. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: denoting division when voices separate
Is it possible to add a div marking when a soprano line temprorarily divides into two parts? I am writing the soprano part as one music block with the brief voiceOne voiceTwo layering when division occurs. You can certainly do that with text markup. See 8.1 in the manual. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: numbers in variable names
but Lilypond (more likely LaTeX) won't let me. Does anyone know a workaround? It's LilyPond. LaTeX isn't even used anymore. Roman numerals or spelling out the numbers ( \globalZeroOne ) are the only ways I know to work around it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beaming- help needed
\revert is your friend. Use it on everything you used a \override on. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: one line - two voices + 2 sets of lyrics
I am setting up a piece of music that has a soprano and alto line. I have figured out how to add lyrics to the alto line but realise that my soprano lyrics will be tricky. See if this helps any: http://www.geoffhorton.com/hymns/7FoldAmen.ly Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Helping with the documentation
Unfortunately I do not agree with most of your points. About searching: I often use google. With the option site:lilypond.org you can narrow the search to that site and by including a version number in the search terms you can narrow it down to one version. This method could be used with a wiki too. I think you're missing at least part of my point. I know how to use Google with a targeted search. The problem is that the amount of text surrounding a match that Google returns is often insufficient to determine if it's what I want, whereas scanning through the whole manual in a browser automatically returns an entire page of context (if I want it). Personally I hate local documentation. Many people don't have reliable broadband always available. You have told us about your personal preferences, which is entirely legitimate. But my personal preferences are that I really, really don't like using wiki-only documentation. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Helping with the documentation
About the tarballs. Most Windows users don't even know what a tarball is. This is a good point. I think zip files are much more portable than tarballs. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Helping with the documentation
no problem, a zip file can also be generated. anyway, AFAIK all major unzip programs for windows extract tarballs and other formats as well. WinXP has native support for reading zip files but not for tarballs. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Helping with the documentation
this is not much of a problem because a zip file is as easy to generate as a tarball. but just for the record, if windows users want to be able to extract files in tarballs and other formats as well they can use the free program 7-zip: http://www.7-zip.org/ I know. I use it. But is Joe Average who just wants to get some music set going to have it? Perhaps if the choice is to stick with tarballs, a link should be placed on the page to the 7-zip site (or some other appropriate site). But I am rather opposed (not that I have any say in the matter) to making people download extra programs, no matter how useful. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feature requests
One hangup for me is lilypond's handling of lyrics. I don't care as much how they're entered as how they're output. Right now, it looks like syllables are aligned so that the left edge of the longest syllable (in polyphonic choral music) is aligned with the center of the note it's matched with, and in every other part, the syllables are center aligned with that one long syllable. Can you give a code sample? In the material I've set, all lyrics for all stanzas are centered under the corresponding note, as you suggest. I have seen some odd-looking output, though, so you might have found a real problem. I also do see syllables extending through bar lines, but there are ways around this. (Whether or not that should be the default is a question I am not competent to answer). Also, there needs to be a better way to add text above a staff, particularly if there are also lyrics. Currently, it seems that text added above a staff (using ^) is attached to lyric text, I have seen some really odd things with this, as you note. The (undocumented, as far as I know) \alignAboveContext property fixes it, but I have a little trouble getting that to work consistently. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spacing within same staff group
Add this to your \paper block: annotate-space = ##t That will show you what LilyPond thinks is going into each space. Unfortunately, it doesn't help in this case, because the extra space between the first and second staves isn't labelled with anything. This makes me wonder if you haven't found a real live bug. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spacing within same staff group
annotate-space = ##t Sorry, that should be annotate-spacing = ##t Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Size of Notes and Text
1. Why is my single 8. notes so big, and how do I change it to the size similar to the other notes? I'm not clear on the problem here. I don't see any outsize notes. Are you referring to the ones with flags rather than with beams? 2. How do I change the size of the text under the grace notes, so they are smaller than the other text. markH = \markup \small H markV = \markup \small V c16_\markH c_\markV -- There's probably a better way, but that does it. If the letters are still too large, use \tiny instead of \small. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Helping with the documentation
So I was thinking of a method to make contibuting to the docs more easy. Perhaps it's a good idea to set up a wiki for the docs. I'm of two minds about this. The advantages you point out are real, but I also encounter a lot of frustration with wiki-based docs; for one thing, there's no very good way to make a quick scan through them looking for something. That makes answers are even harder to find if your mind doesn't work the same way as that of the person who wrote the section in question, or if the answer to your question is covered in a place completely different from where you expect it to be. I often find answers just by loading the full-page version of the docs (off my hard drive, so it's quick), doing a text search for a string, and looking at the material around hits to see if it looks like I'm in the right place. Most search engines don't return enough context for this to work well. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Still Have convert-ly Questions/Problems.
The script seems to run, but stops at conversion 2.7.40 and leaves the line \version 2.7.40 in the new file. (It started as 2.6.0.) Is this the expected outcome or should it have continued further? There weren't any syntax changes after 2.7.40, so that's what convert-ly codes in the \version line. See 5.6 in the manual. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: padding before note with accidental at beginning of standard measures
Unfortunately, although it now *looks* correct, I get the error programming error: unknown prefatory spacing continuing, cross fingers once per affected Staff-measure in the Score. Is there a better method than the one I'm using? If not, is this error something I can just ignore? Sometimes scores that produce programming error messages can produce perfectly acceptable output (I have several). I wouldn't mind if there were some way to tell LilyPond to suffer in silence, but I haven't found one. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: padding before note with accidental at beginning of standard measures
Programming error messages should indicate bugs in LilyPond, no? I've never worked with the code, but my impression from using LilyPond is that programming error messages are not exactly bugs, but more in the lines of complaints that Lily has been asked to do something too complicated to figure out unaided. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Set vs. Override - I'm confused
The followup question is obvious, but I leave it to you to think about it and see if you get any further. I've been wondering for some time if the distinction is a helpful one, but I suspect changing it now would involve too much internal tinkering, not to mention breaking of old scores. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: trick/tip: hairpin length control
This is a great tip! Thanks for sharing it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamics: integrated or separate variable?
As a matter of practice, I put the dynamics directly in the note code, even though my philosophical preference is to separate notes from interpretation as much as possible. I'm not sure why--maybe to keep down the number of independent music parts, I guess. In any case, I'm happy to be shown where I'm wrong, and learn the right way. =) The way that gives you the output you want without driving you nuts _is_ the right way :) Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
