Re:status of mutopia project
Hello, one thing I missed last time we were discussing the future of Mutopia, was to thank Chris for his wonderful work in recent years. I wanted to write a post to this group, but remembered that friends, which I wanted to draw to Lilypond are also interested in my reflections. So I posted them on my blog: Q: Is there a future for free Lilypond scores and Mutopia? at: http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.com/2011/04/q-is-there-future-for-free-lilypond.html Here are some points concerning Mutopia: (copy and paste) What I would propose: - The depositary should be locate on one site. - Contributors should be responsible for their files - Contributers should identify themselves by real names - Contributers should be able with the help of software to produce from their ly-file a uniform presentation of the music (comparable to Mutopia) - Contributors should be able to make their own corrections to their submitted file. - Mutopia files should be converted and write protected - Software: Could be a Wiki (with login) or Google code / project (like solfege resources or . Frescobaldi) or ... (but please not git) Hajo --- ... Die Schönheit liegt im Auge des Betrachters ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ... http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:ways of using Lilypond?
I also use lilypondtool with jedit. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: When will 2.13.24-2 be released?
Hello, the version 2.13.24-2 works as promised. Thanks. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.comwrote: On Fri 18 Jun 2010, 11:12 Hajo Dezelski wrote: Hello, Hi!-) since 2.13.24-1 doesn't work I am waiting for the next release. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-06/msg00324.html All the best Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn -- Dmytro O. Redchuk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
When will 2.13.24-2 be released?
Hello, since 2.13.24-1 doesn't work I am waiting for the next release. All the best Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lilypond 2.13.24-1 No PDFs
Hello, working with windows I uninstalled version 2.13.20 from the menu, installed 2.13.24 and have problems. I use jedit as enviroment: 1. The converter to newer versions runs but does nothing. 2. More importent: after compiling the ly-code I get the message: .. Systeme erstellen... Layout nach »Sor_60_17.ps« ausgeben... Konvertierung nach »./Sor_60_17.pdf«... but when I call the Lilypond pdf-view, the page remains blank. The reason there is no *.ps nor a *.pdf file in the directory nor on the computer. I reinstalled lilypond twice, started the pc new ... Any ideas Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\break after \alternative
Hello,
always struggeling: I have 2 repeat sections. The first one endes in:
\alternative {
{ r8 b,4 a8 g8 [fis] }
{ r4 b4 a \bar || }
}
Where do I have to put the \break to begin the second repeat section in a
new line?
I tried nearly everything, but the always the wrong ones...
Hajo
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download.linuxaudio.org//lilypond/ Down?
Hello, am I the only one having trouble to download the new version and the documentation of lilypond? Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fingering Infos always above the system
Hello,
as always: I just don't get it right. I want to set the fingering for the
melody above and for the bass-line below the system. But they are written
all the time above.
melody = \relative e'' {
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(up)
e4-0 f-1 g2-4 | % 1
}
bass = \relative e {
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(down)
e2-0 g2-3 | % 1
}
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Hajo
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Re: Fingering Infos always above the system
Hello James,
that worked for me thanks.
@Jonathan: It seems as if James found an easier solution. Anyway Thanks
also.
Hajo
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:03 PM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Just use ^ or _
e4^0 or f_1 for example.
You can explicitly set it then.
Thats what I do for my Trumpet Music.
James
-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of
Hajo Dezelski
Sent: Sat 06/03/2010 19:50
To: lilypond
Subject: Fingering Infos always above the system
Hello,
as always: I just don't get it right. I want to set the fingering for the
melody above and for the bass-line below the system. But they are written
all the time above.
melody = \relative e'' {
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(up)
e4-0 f-1 g2-4 | % 1
}
bass = \relative e {
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(down)
e2-0 g2-3 | % 1
}
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Fingering Infos always above the system
Hello,
and thanks for the solutions. I see the better solution in using the
brackets. It writes the number nearer to the note but if I have something
like the example below, the numbers are written over the beams, so that they
are not readable.
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(up)
{ e' [b d-4 c-1] | % 1
b8 a-2 r8 d-48 | % 2 }
So I will in the moment use the _^-method ;-)
Hajo
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Re: Lilypond on Android
...almost tempted to make a LilyPond on Android app ...
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Coool, KillerApp
If you need some help from a former programmer ;-)
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1. Re:RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext doesn't work (Kieren MacMillan)
2. Re:sheet music site for contemporary music (-Eluze)
3. Re:horizontal space after rehearsal mark (or bar line)
(Mats Bengtsson)
4. Re:horizontal space after rehearsal mark (or bar line)
(Trevor Daniels)
5. Re:Lilypond on iPhone (Han-Wen Nienhuys)
6. Re:horizontal space after rehearsal mark (or bar line)
(Mats Bengtsson)
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8. Re:Lilypond to MusicXML (was: Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:58:50 -0500
From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext doesn't work
To: ??? - Hu Haipeng hhpmu...@163.com
Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org, Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
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Hi,
I have
\layout {
\context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
\RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext
}
}
Shouldn't this be
\layout {
\context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
}
\context {
\RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext
}
}
??
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:29:00 -0800 (PST)
From: -Eluze elu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: sheet music site for contemporary music
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Matthieu Jacquot wrote:
-Eluze wrote:
a pity i couldn't get the (lilypond-) code of Bachs Chaconne
http://theshadylanepublishing.com/fr/telechargements.php - getting an
error code 404)
I didn't noticed the broken link, it's fixed now! Thanks.
it works fine now - thanks!
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:45:35 +0100
From: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
Subject: Re: horizontal space after rehearsal mark (or bar line)
To: Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Quoting Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
\version 2.12.2
\score {
\relative c' {
\clef G
\time 4/4
c'1 d
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #'(-2 . 2)
\bar || \mark \markup{\box M2} e( \f ^\markup{Tutti} f)
}
}
That's a fairly clumsy solution to workaround what really happens,
namely that LilyPond is trying to be clever and stack things at
different heights to use the available space as tightly as possible. A
better solution is to tell LilyPond that you don't want it to put
rehearsal marks above other objects:
\version 2.12.2
\score {
\relative c' {
\clef G
\time 4/4
c'1 d
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-spacing-height = #'(-inf.0 . +inf.0)
\bar || \mark \markup{\box M2} e( \f ^\markup{Tutti} f)
}
}
Depending on the situation, you may also want to combine this setting
with \textLengthOn, which does exactly the same setting for text
scripts.
Unfortunately, the only available documentation of these properties
seems to be in the internals reference:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/item_002dinterface#item_002dinterface
/Mats
Nick
On 07/02/10 22:03, Per Eric Rosén wrote:
Hi everyone!
What ways are there to add horizontal space after a rehearsal mark?
In detail: How to shift notes and their textscripts to the right, to
get the rehearsal mark and text-script besides each other instead of
the
(i my opinion somewhat ugly) vertical stacking?
Or, if that is hard: How to increase the
\partial Problem
Hello,
today is not my day. Since several hours I try to solve a problem in a
score, but I don't find my fault or the right syntax. I always get the
warning:
test3.ly:18:26: Warnung: Taktüberprüfung gescheitert bei: -1/16
s2 a4. s8
| % 1
The condensed score (music makes no sense ;-) :
---
\version 2.13.10
melodyOne= \relative d' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16
d16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 d4 a4. r16 s16 | % 1
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16
e'16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 e4 d4. r16 s16 | % 2
}
}
melodyTwo= \relative d' {
\repeat volta 2 {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 a4. s8 | % 1
}
\repeat volta 2 {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 d4. s8 | % 2
}
}
melody = \melodyOne \\ \melodyTwo
\score {
\context Staff { \clef treble \key d \minor \time 4/4 \melody }
\layout { }
}
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Thanks in advance
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Re: \partial Problem
Hello,
thanks for your hint.
Removing the bar helped nothing, the warning still exists.
nothing= Of course the score looks right, but when I publish score
in Mutopia, I try to provide a Lilypond Sourcescore which compiles
without warnings and errors. Otherwise people may think that ...
@David Kastrup:
But it is an anacrusis. So the + 16th seems to be ok?
Even if I declare the \partial also in melodyTwo, the warning persists.
But ok thanks for your help, I have to live with certain inadequateness. ;-)
Hajo
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, James Bailey
derhindem...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 01.02.2010, at 16:06, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
Hello,
today is not my day. Since several hours I try to solve a problem in a
score, but I don't find my fault or the right syntax. I always get the
warning:
test3.ly:18:26: Warnung: Taktüberprüfung gescheitert bei: -1/16
s2 a4. s8
| % 1
The condensed score (music makes no sense ;-) :
---
\version 2.13.10
melodyOne= \relative d' {
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16
d16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 d4 a4. r16 s16 | % 1
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16
e'16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 e4 d4. r16 s16 | % 2
}
}
melodyTwo= \relative d' {
\repeat volta 2 {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 a4. s8 | % 1
}
\repeat volta 2 {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 d4. s8 | % 2
}
}
melody = \melodyOne \\ \melodyTwo
\score {
\context Staff { \clef treble \key d \minor \time 4/4 \melody
}
\layout { }
}
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Could someone give me a hint?
Thanks in advance
Hajo
The bar check, |, just checks if the bar is complete, so even if you have a
\partial, since it's not a complete measure, lilypond complains. The output
should look fine. I usually just omit the bar checks whenever there is a
\partial.
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Re: \partial Problem
Hello Kieren,
this helped indeed. Thanks! But I dont understand how you did it. Did
you put a second melody before (underneath )? And if the MelodyOne has
254 Bars, do I have to write:
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s255...
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s254
}
I didnt find it in the manuals or snipets ...
Sorry, someone is giving help and the one looking for help wants more ;-)
Hajo
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Hajo,
This is why I always recommend that you *don't* put \partial and \repeat in
every voice...
Try the attached instead.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
\version 2.13.10
global = {
\clef treble
\key d \minor
\time 4/4
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s2...
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s1
}
}
melodyOne = \relative d' {
d16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 d4 a4. r16 % 1
e'16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 e4 d4. r16 % 2
}
melodyTwo = \relative d' {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 a4. s16 % 1
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 d4. s16 % 2
}
melody = \melodyOne \\ \melodyTwo
\score {
\context Staff \global \melody
}
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Re: \partial Problem
After looking at my own trials:
Before the example which I sent to the list I also tried:
\context Staff { \clef treble \key d \minor \time 4/4 \partial 16
\melody }
without declaring \partial in the voices. But that provided the same warning.
Anyway: subtile changes provide sometimes the right solutions.
Hajo
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Kieren,
this helped indeed. Thanks! But I dont understand how you did it. Did
you put a second melody before (underneath )? And if the MelodyOne has
254 Bars, do I have to write:
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s255...
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s254
}
I didnt find it in the manuals or snipets ...
Sorry, someone is giving help and the one looking for help wants more ;-)
Hajo
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Hajo,
This is why I always recommend that you *don't* put \partial and \repeat in
every voice...
Try the attached instead.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
\version 2.13.10
global = {
\clef treble
\key d \minor
\time 4/4
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s2...
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s1
}
}
melodyOne = \relative d' {
d16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 d4 a4. r16 % 1
e'16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 e4 d4. r16 % 2
}
melodyTwo = \relative d' {
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 a4. s16 % 1
s16 | % 0 Auftakt
s2 d4. s16 % 2
}
melody = \melodyOne \\ \melodyTwo
\score {
\context Staff \global \melody
}
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Re: \partial Problem
Hello Kieren,
now I got it. Never thought about this possibilty. Thanks again.
Problem solved. We can move on.
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Hajo,
Did you put a second melody before (underneath )?
Sorry: I don't understand this question.
And if the MelodyOne has 254 Bars, do I have to write:
If you only need multiple voices for one small bit (e.g., a single note),
then write them inline, instead of splitting the voices for the whole piece
-- see below.
Cheers,
Kieren.
\version 2.13.10
global = {
\clef treble
\key d \minor
\time 4/4
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s2...
}
\repeat volta 2 {
\partial 16 s16
s1
}
}
melody = \relative d' {
d16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 d4 a4. \\ a r16 % 1
e'16 | % 0 Auftakt
f4 e4 d4. \\ d r16 % 2
}
\score {
\context Staff \global \melody
}
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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit
Hello, I had the same problem and changed the directory in JEdit. If it is reversed to only Liliypond, I hope someone will write it in this list. Has the installation descripition in the documentation been changed? However, it seems the default directory name is actually picked up from the name set in the previous install if one is set there. Maybe this explains the difference. Could be, but as far as I remember it is recommended, that you uninstall the old version before you install the knew one. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: website menus: gradient vs. solid
Hello, See: Gradient Read: Solid The contrast (Gradient) between black (letter) and (dark) brown is not high enough unless you change the letter colour to white. In one of the former versions it was very hard to read. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:00 AM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-u...@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest... Today's Topics: 1. website menus: gradient vs. solid (Graham Percival) 2. Re:website menus: gradient vs. solid (Kieren MacMillan) 3. Re:new website non-git help (Graham Percival) 4. Re:new website draft 8: almost giving up (Graham Percival) 5. Re:website menus: gradient vs. solid (Tim McNamara) 6. Re:website menus: gradient vs. solid (Andrew Hawryluk) 7. Re:website menus: gradient vs. solid (Herbert Niemeyer) 8. Re:problems with learning lilypond (Simon Mackenzie) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:41:28 -0700 From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Subject: website menus: gradient vs. solid To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: 20090812234126.ga9...@nagi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not certain if the question was clear, so let's do this again and put it to a vote. These two images have the same top-level menu item selected. Which is easier to see? http://lilypond.org/~graham/solid.png http://lilypond.org/~graham/gradients.png (ok, the background to the lily icon doesn't match the other shades; this can be fixed easily) Please DO NOT complain that brown gradients doesn't fit the color scheme; changing the colors (either of the gradients or the rest of the page) is easy. For the record, I vote in favor of SOME kind of gradients. (not necessarily brown) Voting will end in 48 hours. Cheers, - Graham -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:51:01 -0400 From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: website menus: gradient vs. solid To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: 63527d93-c62c-4a06-9861-27787ecff...@sympatico.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Graham, These two images have the same top-level menu item selected. Which is easier to see? http://lilypond.org/~graham/solid.png http://lilypond.org/~graham/gradients.png Solid. Please DO NOT complain that brown gradients doesn't fit the color scheme; changing the colors (either of the gradients or the rest of the page) is easy. Regardless, you've likely skewed the poll results [which way, I don't know] by adding a colour-change as part of the difference! ;) For example, I don't know that a green gradient would be harder to see than a green solid... because I haven't been given the chance to compare them. Cheers, Kieren. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0700 From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Subject: Re: new website non-git help To: Chris Snyder csny...@adoromusicpub.com Cc: MonAmiPierrot pierofaust...@hotmail.com, lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: 20090813004112.ga11...@nagi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:51:07AM -0400, Chris Snyder wrote: Andrew Hawryluk wrote: Could we add a link in the first paragraph to the (upcoming) essay? Perhaps on the words beautifully engraved music. The essay was a prominent feature of the previous web design, and says a lot about the attention to detail that goes into LilyPond. We try to avoid links with different text, since that doesn't look so nice in pdf and info. But I've found a few good places to add such links. Perhaps one place for a link to the essay could be right under the Excellent classical engraving subheading near the top of the Features page: Read more: The LilyPond philosophy Ok, done. Glancing at the Features page, I also just noticed a typo under Excellent support: s/documetation/documentation/ Thanks, fixed. Cheers, - Graham -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:59:03 -0700 From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Subject: Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up To: han...@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: 20090813005903.ga11...@nagi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:39:20PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On
Advertizing
Hello, Advertizing: I dont like that too. What about: WhoTo or WhoTo Lilypond Perhaps as minimal as, say, in Wikipedia. In particular I very much like the design of http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilypond I would second that: - The screen is not overcrowded - The colors are for distinguishing items - The text is readable in every screen resolution - You have a consistent menu structure After experimenting with many different screenlayouts I switched back to straight Mediawiki Layout, so we could talk about contents. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Website: Icon as Reminder and Link
Hello, one of the points I miss is a constant visual reminder of the place where I am. So why dont you put the Lily as an icon on the left side of the menu-bar at the top. This could also be used as a replacement for the home button. Flowing Text - I would work with a maximum constant text width, so that layout / design is somewhat constant. We are proud about the optical features of Lilypond, so we should also set comparable measures to the presentation. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 79, Issue 104
Possibly we should also think of - a better slogan? it seems to me that Sibelius 6 - Perfect scores is more attractive than music notation for everyone. possibly something vaguely like: ... Jan. Lilypond - Keep up with tradition - Engrave like the masters Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn Possibly we should also think of - a better slogan? it seems to me that Sibelius 6 - Perfect scores is more attractive than music notation for everyone. possibly something vaguely like: ... Jan. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Why do Lilyond Engravers have inhibitions to store their score in Mutopia?
Hello, looking at the beautiful Reubke score I ask myself again why do I have to add another link to my list, when we have a working repository for music: Mutopia. Following closely discussions on this mailing-list you will notice that tons of scores are engraved with Lilypond. (Applause!) And most of this music seems to be without any copyright restrictions. But I can seldom find them in Mutopia. And I learned a lot from the Lilypond snippets AND from the scores in Mutopia. Beside that you will find a lot of really good music over there. So my questions: - Why do Lilyond Engravers have inhibitions to store their score in Mutopia? - Are there any hidden fences which I am not able to see? - Are the copyright-restrictions the reason for keeping scores hidden? - Is Mutopia not worth contributing? - Why is Mutopia not the official music code repository for Lilypond? - Or am I misleaded? Ok, I must confess that sometimes it would be nice if for example corrections on a score could be managed by the one who put the music to Mutopia whithout having to ask Chris to do the dirty work. OK, I also find the idea of Wilbert more than intriguing to use Google code as a base for scores including some versioning control. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do Lilyond Engravers have inhibitions to store their score in Mutopia?
Hello Wilbert, It was not my intention to kind of force you to submit the score to Mutopia. It was more a general reflection about the interactions between Lilypond and Mutopia. On topic: I havent worked with Google code yet (only with the other apps). Could you describe in short how you organized your workflow? Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Wilbert Berendsen lily...@xs4all.nl wrote: Op donderdag 16 april 2009, schreef Hajo Dezelski: looking at the beautiful Reubke score I ask myself again why do I have to add another link to my list, when we have a working repository for music: Mutopia. It is my intention to submit this score to Mutopia! (And others I created as well) I have yet to create a letter-paper version, that's the reason I did not submit yet. And I want really to have sorted out all possible mistakes (although the score is already as good as error free I think, I thoroughly checked it many times, note by note, playing and looking). best regards, Wilbert Berendsen -- Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book setup for windows
Hello, thanks for the input. After some hours of working with latex and several editors on windows and mac I decided to take the easy road: OpenOffice with the OOoLilypond Macro. It works not always as I thought, but with time I will find some workarounds. Three reasons for the decision: 1. When I write a text I want to focus on the contents. I dont want to see all these formating tags. It is for me also much harder to proof read the text. 2. I am used to work with strongly structured contents.So I will develop my stylesheet and stick to it. It will be similar to the Lilypond-documentation. 3. Most importent: I have the possibility to export the notation and the text to pdf, html and xml. So when there is a need, I can switch back to LaTex. By the way this is for me the easiest way to produce incipits for my wiki. Thanks again Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 3/27/09 4:56 AM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com wrote: I was afraid of that - back to square one - In the early 90s I had a quarrel with my former boss who wanted to force me to TeX and later LaTex and I, working on a Mac, was a vivid Wysiwyg advocator. I won. Now - I have yet not decided which output would be appropriate (pdf or html) so I will give it a try with Latex and WinEdt. Is there a stylesheet for the Lilypond Documentationproject which I can use as a starting point without the need to invent my own proper layout? @Carl: I am still switching between Mac and Windows (jEdit). What kind of system are you actually using on your Mac? I use Terminal and vim to do my LilyPond editing. I have two terminal windows open: one with vim, and one with the lilypond command. I write the file from the vim window, switch to the command window, hit the up arrow key and the enter key, then switch to the Preview window to see how things came out. I use Preview to display my PDF files. I use TeXShop form my LaTeX work. I've not done any work with lilypond-book; it's on my to-do list for my hoped-for guitar songbook. As far as a starting point, try the two *.latex files found in Documentation/user. That should get you started. HTH, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book setup for windows
I was afraid of that - back to square one - In the early 90s I had a quarrel with my former boss who wanted to force me to TeX and later LaTex and I, working on a Mac, was a vivid Wysiwyg advocator. I won. Now - I have yet not decided which output would be appropriate (pdf or html) so I will give it a try with Latex and WinEdt. Is there a stylesheet for the Lilypond Documentationproject which I can use as a starting point without the need to invent my own proper layout? @Carl: I am still switching between Mac and Windows (jEdit). What kind of system are you actually using on your Mac? Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Andrew Hawryluk ahawry...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, now, that I have all relevant scores coded with lilypond I want to put together all my notes in an analytical, didatical orientated book with scores and a lot of referential incipts, themes, excerpts etc. And the only way I can do this in a timely manner seems to be with lilypond-book. Until now I gathered all my notes etc. in a personal-wiki, but this concept of a Zettelkasten (slip box?) is not working for a structured approach for learning material. I have to do that step by step. Until now I have not worked with Latex, Tex, Docbook... So my question: Are there recommondations for an integrated editorial environment using lilypond-book on a windows machine which is easy to use ? I know I have to learn some coding but I dont want to dig the next year into the internals of TEX to layout a text properly. I like the clear format of the lilypond-documentation. Would that be a starting point and when yes: How could this be done without using dreamweaver ;-) As always thanks in advance for your time and help Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Ha, I was half way through writing this when Carl answered, but I'll still send it. What final output do you want? If you want publication-quality PDF output, LaTeX is your best bet (http://miktex.org/ for windows), and there are several editors that could be helpful: http://www.texniccenter.org/ http://www.winedt.com/ http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/ http://www.latexeditor.org/ The LilyPond documentation is written in texinfo, which is processed to produce both the PDF and HTML versions. On the other hand, writing in plain HTML is a reasonable option if you only want web output. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond-book setup for windows
Hello, now, that I have all relevant scores coded with lilypond I want to put together all my notes in an analytical, didatical orientated book with scores and a lot of referential incipts, themes, excerpts etc. And the only way I can do this in a timely manner seems to be with lilypond-book. Until now I gathered all my notes etc. in a personal-wiki, but this concept of a Zettelkasten (slip box?) is not working for a structured approach for learning material. I have to do that step by step. Until now I have not worked with Latex, Tex, Docbook... So my question: Are there recommondations for an integrated editorial environment using lilypond-book on a windows machine which is easy to use ? I know I have to learn some coding but I dont want to dig the next year into the internals of TEX to layout a text properly. I like the clear format of the lilypond-documentation. Would that be a starting point and when yes: How could this be done without using dreamweaver ;-) As always thanks in advance for your time and help Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
fermata below the barline
Hello,
is there a way to position the fermata below the barline?
I only found :
\mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.ufermata }
And
Such objects are only typeset above the top staff of the score;
Hajo
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Re: fermata below the barline
Hello, the first solution produced an error: Warnung: Zwei gleichzeitige mark-Ereignisse, dieses wird verworfen The second of the snippet database seems to work. Sorry that I didnt find the solution. I searched through all manuals and snippets list and overlook the repository. Next time I know better. Thanks for your time Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, This is the snippet that gave me the clues: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=402 Even more useful is http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=10 If you search the LSR for fermata, it's on the first page of hits. =) Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki
Hello, no you haven't goofed up the code. I have the same problems. I worked with some tricks combining the different melodies in one score, but couldn't solve the problem. Help would be welcome. Hajo ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [ANN] LilyPondTool-2.12-r2 released
Hello, here comes chaos production again. I just wanted to be sure, made a clean install of jedit, included the new lily files etc.: And IT WORKS. I have made 2 dozens of corrections, compilations and views and the system was stable. Congrats. Allow me one suggestion: Could you line out the file structure of the configuration. I got mine mixed up when I installed your Lilypondtool.zip and made the installation of the new jedit. So it looks like: documents../.jedit/ programes/jedit(new) programes/lilypond/... programes/lilypondTool/jedit(old) Should I install the new versions of jedit into the lilypondTool folder? Anyway it works and thats the main ponit. Thanks for your efforts. Hajo Bertalan Fodor schrieb: Have you restarted jEdit after replacing the jar. Also make sure, jEdit is not running in the background. (Look for javaw in the process list) Hajo Dezelski írta: Hello, tried it again. After 7 or 8 corrections the pdf viewer didnt show up correct. I closed it, compiled once again, wanted to open the viewer and got the msg: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3529) at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3404) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openUpFile(Commands.java:1902) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openFile(Commands.java:2048) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands$7.construct(Commands.java:2556) at org.jpedal.utils.SwingWorker$2.run(SwingWorker.java:118) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) That was it for today. Cheers Hajo Bertalan Fodor schrieb: Thanks for reporting. Could you please download http://www.organum.hu/fileadmin/lilypondtool/LilyPondTool.jar and replace your version with that one? I think I fixed this bug in it, but before uploading a full new release I'd like to know if it is really fixed. Thanks, Bert Hajo Dezelski írta: Hello, I installed the new version with jedit 4.3pre16 Java 1.6.0_11 on a window system. It looks great, but I have problems which can be reproduced on my system as often as I like. When I am editing in Lilypond mode, compile and change to Preview output everything is fine. When I click on a note on the SECOND page of the pdf output it transfers me to the editor - fine. I correct, save, compile and switch to Preview output: the whole system gets stuck and I have to kill the javaw.exe process by hand and start the whole thing new. And this happens all the time. It doesnt happen when I am on the 1. page of the pdf. Hajo n/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [ANN] LilyPondTool-2.12-r2 released
Hello, I installed the new version with jedit 4.3pre16 Java 1.6.0_11 on a window system. It looks great, but I have problems which can be reproduced on my system as often as I like. When I am editing in Lilypond mode, compile and change to Preview output everything is fine. When I click on a note on the SECOND page of the pdf output it transfers me to the editor - fine. I correct, save, compile and switch to Preview output: the whole system gets stuck and I have to kill the javaw.exe process by hand and start the whole thing new. And this happens all the time. It doesnt happen when I am on the 1. page of the pdf. Hajo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [ANN] LilyPondTool-2.12-r2 released
Hello, correction to the former post. When I am on page 3 or later things are nearly normal. After the corrections the pdf jumps to page 1 and I can turn pages . During the last 30 cycles I had only 3 breakdowns. Perhaps the system fears to be beaten and behaves nearly well ... ;-) Hajo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [ANN] LilyPondTool-2.12-r2 released
Hello, I changed the .jar and it worked about 10 times. Then I became from the pdf viewer the following msg. java.lang.NullPointerException at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3529) at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3404) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openUpFile(Commands.java:1902) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openFile(Commands.java:2048) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands$7.construct(Commands.java:2556) at org.jpedal.utils.SwingWorker$2.run(SwingWorker.java:118) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Hope it helps. I will try to fix some other mistakes. The rest will follow tomorrow Have fun Hajo Bertalan Fodor schrieb: Thanks for reporting. Could you please download http://www.organum.hu/fileadmin/lilypondtool/LilyPondTool.jar and replace your version with that one? I think I fixed this bug in it, but before uploading a full new release I'd like to know if it is really fixed. Thanks, Bert Hajo Dezelski írta: Hello, I installed the new version with jedit 4.3pre16 Java 1.6.0_11 on a window system. It looks great, but I have problems which can be reproduced on my system as often as I like. When I am editing in Lilypond mode, compile and change to Preview output everything is fine. When I click on a note on the SECOND page of the pdf output it transfers me to the editor - fine. I correct, save, compile and switch to Preview output: the whole system gets stuck and I have to kill the javaw.exe process by hand and start the whole thing new. And this happens all the time. It doesnt happen when I am on the 1. page of the pdf. Hajo n/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [ANN] LilyPondTool-2.12-r2 released
Hello, tried it again. After 7 or 8 corrections the pdf viewer didnt show up correct. I closed it, compiled once again, wanted to open the viewer and got the msg: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3529) at org.jpedal.PdfDecoder.openPdfFile(PdfDecoder.java:3404) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openUpFile(Commands.java:1902) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands.openFile(Commands.java:2048) at org.jpedal.examples.simpleviewer.Commands$7.construct(Commands.java:2556) at org.jpedal.utils.SwingWorker$2.run(SwingWorker.java:118) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) That was it for today. Cheers Hajo Bertalan Fodor schrieb: Thanks for reporting. Could you please download http://www.organum.hu/fileadmin/lilypondtool/LilyPondTool.jar and replace your version with that one? I think I fixed this bug in it, but before uploading a full new release I'd like to know if it is really fixed. Thanks, Bert Hajo Dezelski írta: Hello, I installed the new version with jedit 4.3pre16 Java 1.6.0_11 on a window system. It looks great, but I have problems which can be reproduced on my system as often as I like. When I am editing in Lilypond mode, compile and change to Preview output everything is fine. When I click on a note on the SECOND page of the pdf output it transfers me to the editor - fine. I correct, save, compile and switch to Preview output: the whole system gets stuck and I have to kill the javaw.exe process by hand and start the whole thing new. And this happens all the time. It doesnt happen when I am on the 1. page of the pdf. Hajo n/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New LilyPondTool version available for testing
Hello, I installed the new lilypondtool and the new version of jedit (r16) on two different pcs. I have the following problems: - the file LilyHelp.jar was only in the version which could be installed via the plugin manager. I have manualy installed afterwards the new version. The help version was 11.37 and I found no way to update this. - in the Lilypond menu Source editing - Converting to Lily midi2lily all went ok, but no output was shown in the editor. When I translated the files by hand everything was fine. On some short files I had no problems with a longer one I could bring jedit to a halt, which could only be solved by killing the process: - loaded the *.ly file into jedit - made a some corrections - compiled the code (no errors in the console, 3-6 erros at the bottom of jedit) - looked at the preview output - went to another page and pointed with the mouse on a note - was ported to the note in jedit - made correction, compiled: Got the error: Warnung: Systeme passen nicht auf Seite -- Zwischen-System-Abstand wird ignoriert - And when I looked at the preview it automaticaly tried to show page 2 and stopped the program. It happend every time on the other machine but not on this. So it must be my fault. ;-) Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Titles
Hallo you answered my question although I didnt post it. It is the more elegant solution for my incipits. Thanks and all the Best Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MediaWiki-Extension for Lilypond
Hello, as already posted, the solution is: In the Lilypond.php file you have to change the parameters: $cmd = $wgLilypond -d safe -d eps --format=png ---header=textidoc Hajo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MediaWiki-Extension for Lilypond
It works also within MediaWiki-Software as an extension. In the Lilypond.php file you have to change the parameters: $cmd = $wgLilypond -d safe -d eps --format=png ---header=textidoc I still have some formatting problems, but first I have to read the manuals ;-) Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MediaWiki-Extension for Lilypond
Thanks for the hint. Still have a problem. As far as I understood I have to take the parameter -d and an option . But how is the correcht syntax? lilypond -d safe lilypond -d safe (#f) liypond -d #f I couldnt get it to work Cheers Hajo 2008/12/7 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:14:50PM +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote: I am using v. 11-64. I am not a php-programmer. Is there a solution to this problem or should I drop the idea using lilypond within the mediawiki? Yes, there is a solution. That solution is to run lilypond --help and/or read the News document of lilypond. Cheers, - Graham -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pagelayout for incipits
Dear me, I started to read the new documentation and: I thought too complicated. The solution was more trivial than I expected. By the way the documentation is really excellent. The last time I looked a year ago I had some problems and solved my problems by trial and error. Now you find really what you are looking for - if you know what you are looking for ;-) Thanks for your efforts. Hajo 2008/12/6 Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Has someone a pagelayout to gather several incipits like that of Schmiederer Bachwerkeverzeichnis on a page. Title Name1 - incipt1 (2-4 measures) - comment1 Name2 - incipit2 - comment2 ... incpits = just melodylines or Pianostaff I read the manuals but couldnt make it out: I only found the example of the ancient notation template which is way over my head. Thanks in advance Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pagelayout for incipits
Although I do not have yet a complete solution but a starter, it were three
hints:
1. Introduction What symbols to engrave (The first time I understood how the
interpreter works)
2. Music representation
3. 4.1 An example of a musicological document
I was caught by my templates i.e. Page layout. They worked only for one
piece of music per page and I didnt understand the meaning of { }. So
combining several { } I suddenly had several incipits on the page.
Beside that although I contributed a lot of Bach scores to Mutopia I only
used the standard notation and left aside all thoughs tweakings which are
described in 4. Tweaking
outputfile:///D:/lilypond-2.11.65-1.documentation/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning-big-page.html#Tweaking-output
.
I wanted to have my ly-files clean and understandable. So it was at least
for me easier to adapt them to newer versions of Lilypond or to be true: I
didnt want to bother with engravers etc. I just wanted to see my music and
play it ;-)
The actual output was and is not so relevant to me as long as all notes and
attributes are represented.
Cheers
Hajo
2008/12/7 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hajo Dezelski wrote:
Dear me,
I started to read the new documentation and:
I thought too complicated. The solution was more trivial than I expected.
By the way the documentation is really excellent. The last time I looked a
year ago I had some problems and solved my problems by trial and error.
Now
you find really what you are looking for - if you know what you are
looking
for ;-)
Thanks for your efforts.
Hajo
2008/12/6 Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Has someone a pagelayout to gather several incipits like that of
Schmiederer Bachwerkeverzeichnis on a page.
Title
Name1 - incipt1 (2-4 measures) - comment1
Name2 - incipit2 - comment2
...
incpits = just melodylines or Pianostaff
I read the manuals but couldnt make it out:
I only found the example of the ancient notation template which is way
over
my head.
Thanks in advance
Hajo
Glad to hear the re-written manuals helped. Out of curiosity, which
section helped you solve this? I was interested in it but didn't have time
to pursue.
Jon
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Re: LilypondTool installation problem
Just open in LilypondTool the Plugin Manager, got to install, a list of pluings will be downloaded and you can install the Lilypond plugin. Hope that helps. Hajo 2008/12/7 Steven Padalino [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've installed JEdit 4.3pre13 on my Kubuntu 8.04 PC, but the LilypondTool plug-in is not listed as an available download in the Plug-in Manager. How do I get it? I haven't found any help for this on the JEdit and LilypondTool web sites. Steve ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Pagelayout for incipits
Hello, Has someone a pagelayout to gather several incipits like that of Schmiederer Bachwerkeverzeichnis on a page. Title Name1 - incipt1 (2-4 measures) - comment1 Name2 - incipit2 - comment2 ... incpits = just melodylines or Pianostaff I read the manuals but couldnt make it out: I only found the example of the ancient notation template which is way over my head. Thanks in advance Hajo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Pagelayout for incipits
Hello, Has someone a pagelayout to gather several incipits like that of Schmiederer Bachwerkeverzeichnis on a page. Title Name1 - incipt1 (2-4 measures) - comment1 Name2 - incipit2 - comment2 ... incpits = just melodylines or Pianostaff I read the manuals but couldnt make it out: I only found the example of the ancient notation template which is way over my head. Thanks in advance Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
MediaWiki-Extension for Lilypond
Hello, trying find a solution with my incipits problem I used my MediaWiki with the Lilypond extension. But I got the error *ilypond.exe: unrecognized option: `--safe' * I deleted the --safe option then the next argument was also not recognized $cmd = $wgLilypond . --safe --backend=eps --format=png --header=texidoc . Then I deleted the whole option, but that was not a solution either. I am using v. 11-64. I am not a php-programmer. Is there a solution to this problem or should I drop the idea using lilypond within the mediawiki? Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Hello, although I have pleaded in the past to develop xml-conversion I must admit that I was not aware about the technical and legal conflicts. - -) Third, Recordare claims copyright on the typesetting of those MusicXML files, so we can't simply copy them into our build tree for testing purposes (Michael Good, the author of the MusicXML spec wrote me last year that if I ask them and tell them on which website the files would be placed, they would grant us permission, but due to the open source nature of LilyPond, I doubt that we can really fulfill this. I simply don't want to copy anything into the source tree which cannot be freely copied and published/uploaded somewhere else). I was always astonished about Dolets and Finales politics in that after a time you had to purchase the additional licence. But now I understand. On the other hand the acceptance of musicxml- conversion from other scoresetting software seems at least disputable. Even if that is based on technical problems (note versus staff based orientation), conversions to other software than finale was always from loaded with problems to not useable. So it is for sure not a problem of Lilypond but the lack of acceptance of musicxml by other developers ( accept finale). So this could be a dead end road a la longue at least for us. And we could not sacrifice Creative Commons. It should be the other way round. So the only way I see in the moment is to enhance the midi-export so that we have a chance to use the music in another context. Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Hello and sorry, So let's not drop MusicXML support, even we don't like the legal issues around it. I did NOT intend to propose to drop MusicXML support. My intensions as explained in other threads are different: As a musical Dilettant I have no orchestra or band at my disposal. So I use in the meantime solely Lilypond for the creation of scores. The export via MusicXML to Finale or Harmony Assitant serves only to be able to create a reasonable midi file which can be tweaked in a digital workstation to produce some music which is pleasing my ears. Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
No, I switched from Finale (7 Years) to Lilypond, but I use Lilypond only to write the score to have a basis to work with the music. And here is a problem : I can only export to midi not xml . So I export it to Finale (Human Playback from Robert Piéchaud) or Harmony Assistant (via Midi) and produce a decent playback using mostly Garritan samples. When it sounds good I export it back to a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) mostly using Samplitude to have an audible nice piece of music by tweaking the tracks a little more. And that was (is) the main reason why I switched after long years of Linux (Suse) back to XP. But this old XP Laptop is most of the time not online. Mails etc. will be done on a Mac or a Linuxmachine ;-) Hajo 2008/11/12 Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also run Win Xp SP2 on my laptop (work provided) which is where I usually run Lilypond (typical .ly file compile times are about 5+/-2 seconds from my memory), but I have a Vista machine (newer, wife uses mainly) and an older machine running Ubuntu for now at home. I want to get her used to the idea of Linux and make the switch the next time Vista crashes hard ;-) Thanks for the information. Did you mean you switched from Lilypond back to some proprietary music software and that forced you to use Windows instead of Linux? I don't know what DAW is. Tim Reeves *Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 11/12/2008 12:43 PM To Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista It was Ubuntu 8.10 but XP SP2 and I took the time measure from Lilypond. Of course I ran the tests several times. On XP I only ran the necessary processes and the compile times were stable. Ubuntu was right out of the box and compile times differed. I switched back to XP for it was easier for me to use other musical software (DAW) Hajo 2008/11/12 Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinkpad x61sNewUbuntu (Linux)Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB4-5 s Thinkpad x61sNewXP Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB2 s Only one data point but interesting: Faster on WinXP than on Ubuntu. Was it the latest of each? i.e. Ubuntu 8.10 and XP SP3? Tim Reeves -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Trevor, I wouldnt look in the first place at problems of Lilypond. I presume that it is a problem of Vista which has too many processes running in the background. You will find, that nearly all programs run slower on this OS. And even when you only need 10 seconds it is too much compared to what the processor could manage. You have a machine with much more horsepower under the hood compared to the old systems. And this system performance should not be consumed by the OS. Of course a normal user working only with Vista will not notice the difference. If you have the possibilty to install XP on your laptop I am sure that you will be astonished what you computer will be able to perform. We have tried that with different programs on different machines and nearly always had success. Hajo 2008/11/13 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mats, when I first obtained my laptop, c. March 08, I did a LilyPond installation with the then current 2.11 version on a clean system. So there were no lilypond font caches present. The performance was fine then and has been fine ever since. soon after, I tried various ways to cause the performance to degrade in an attempt to isolate the problem being experienced by others, but nothing I did had any effect - the performance always has been and still is good. In an attempt to isolate the problem again, I have just created a .fontconfig directory(empty, as I don't know what it should contain), downloaded 2.11.63 and reinstalled it. But it still compiles a 3-page file in just under 10 sec, (15 sec on first run). If I could ever get my system to run slowly we would have the answer, but now I'm out of ideas. Trevor Mats Bengtsson wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:44 AM Trevor, perhaps it's the other way around, that you don't suffer from the problems, since you already have a working cache file. Have you tried removing all your cache files (of course, keeping a back-up in a safe place) and trying the latest installation? /Mats Trevor Daniels wrote: Jonathan The slowness is certainly not inherently due to Vista as LilyPond has always run fine under Vista here. The slowness issue was discussed at some length back in March 08 on both -user and -bug when it was determined that it was due to font building. This is almost certainly is cause of the recently reported slowness. Incidentally, a similar issue made LilyPond slow under XP too, and this was fixed with the 2.11.43 release. I don't understand the technical issues, but on Vista the fonts are contained in ~\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2. (To see these make sure you have the options set in Windows Explorer to Show hidden file and folders.) This should contain a number of smaller files (=2) and one large file, c. 800Kb on my system. Check the date/time the large file was last modified. It should only be changed infrequently (I don't know what triggers it.) If it changes on every LP run, then this is the cause of the slowness. Two of the smaller files should be rebuilt on the first run after a new install, which causes the this first run to take more time, around 20 secs more, than subsequent runs. So what might cause this incorrect font cache rebuild? In the past, one cause was an incorrect version of libfontconfig-1.dll but this is unlikely now as the appropriate version of this dll is included with every binary. Another possibility is that when this dll searches for the font cache it checks for an old cache first. The fonts used to be cached in ~\.fontconfig. If such a directory is present it might be worth trying deleting it or moving it to another directory. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Slattery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Tim Slattery wrote: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 545 Defect Verified Medium v.villenaveLilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Performance fixed_2_11_43 Rob, Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it runs because it needs to build a font cache, but successive times should not be slow. On my Vista system, when I invoke Lilypond I get the GNU version notice, and then. it sits for almost 50 seconds, apparently doing NOTHING. Then it wakes up and processes the file. It's still usable, but it sure slows things down. For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and it took about 90 seconds, then ran it a second time and it took more than 60 seconds. The same file on Linux compiles in less than 2 seconds. Honestly I don't know how anyone uses Vista as their main OS. This is a reasonably powerful laptop less than 6
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Hello, dont beat the messenger, its the donkey: Sometimes ago I had the same problem and I messured the compilation times of one and the same lilypond music file. modelage OS Processor memory Compiletimet Thinkpad x21ca. 10XP 700 MHz392 MB 20 s Thinkpad T42ca. 3XP1,7 GHz500 MB 12 s Thinkpad x61sNewVISTADual 1,6 GHz1 GB 67 s - 90 s Thinkpad x61sNewVISTADual 1,6 GHz2 GB 49 s - 76 s Thinkpad x61sNewUbuntu (Linux)Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB4-5 s Thinkpad x61sNewXP Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB 2 s Mac Powerbookca. 4OSX 10.51,5 Ghz PPC1 GB 16 s So throw away Vista and you will see light at the end of the tunnel Hajo 2008/11/12 Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it runs because it needs to build a font cache, but successive times should not be slow. Just wondering: Does lilypond emit a message that the font cache is being generated, and that this usually takes some time? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
Sorry, no chance. I have errased Vista from my system and they live happily ever after ... But to be correct: The little Thinkpadseries seem to have problems with Vista. That was one off the reasons why Lenovo officially provided a Downgradeversion from Vista to XP. We had similiar effects on other Thinkpad series. The Lilypond version was 2.11.5x (not so long ago) and Vista was right out of the box (not optimized). Hajo 2008/11/12 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/12 Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes ago I had the same problem and I messured the compilation times of one and the same lilypond music file. So throw away Vista and you will see light at the end of the tunnel This could have changed. It would be fine if you repeated the tests with current version. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
It was Ubuntu 8.10 but XP SP2 and I took the time measure from Lilypond. Of course I ran the tests several times. On XP I only ran the necessary processes and the compile times were stable. Ubuntu was right out of the box and compile times differed. I switched back to XP for it was easier for me to use other musical software (DAW) Hajo 2008/11/12 Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinkpad x61sNewUbuntu (Linux)Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB4-5 s Thinkpad x61sNewXP Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB2 s Only one data point but interesting: Faster on WinXP than on Ubuntu. Was it the latest of each? i.e. Ubuntu 8.10 and XP SP3? Tim Reeves -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Converting lilypond to music xml
Hello, it has been discussed before and it has been excepted for future implementation. Have a look at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/msg00838.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/msg00838.html . Have a look at the whole thread. There are two additional links. I want to use it to tweek the midi code. Valentin: I believe you have a point (no matter how one can feel about the quality of computer-generated music). In general this may be discussed but lent your ear to examples of what has been accomplished with midi and the right sounds ;-). http://www.garritan.com/audio/index.html http://www.garritan.com/audio/index.html%20 And there is a lot of music on this page which is a direct output from Midifiles generated by notationsoftware. Cheers Hajo 2008/8/24 Alastair Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List I'd be very surprised if this hasn't been asked before, but searches of the archives haven't turned up anything useful. Is there any way of converting lilypond files into music xml? If not, are there any plans for such a tool? I use software to convert music into Braille, and it only accepts input in xml. Currently, my only method is to do OCR on the pdf output and then correct any errors, which seems rather ludicrous. Alastair Irving ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ly to musicxml
Hello, knowing that it has been discussed before, I want nevertheless express my interest in another exchange format than midi: ly to musicxml I have been working more than 6 years with Finale and switched to Lilypond several months ago. (See my contributions to Mutopia). There is really one thing I miss: A decend midi interpretation of the music with control not only over the melody but also the articulations and expressions. In the moment my main tool is Finale with *Robert* Piéchauds Human Playback and GPO (Garritans Personal Orchestra), JABB and the Gofriller. So what I do: 1. Write the LilyPond code 2. Produce a PDF-File 3. Use PDFtoMusic from Myriad to produce a Harmony Assistant file 4. With Harmony Assistant a produce a music-xml file 5. I load this file into Finale to produce a midifile where most of the musical expressions are interpreted 6. When I am in the mood I use a DAW to tune things up 7. Last but not least I can hear the music But you can imagine what gets lost and added to the original .ly file during theses transformations. Sometimes it is not useable and I have no desire to rewrite the score in Finale. Of course Lilyponds target is to produce highly readable musical notation. And it does this job perfectly wonderful. But it would be really a pitty if this would be the end of the road. We have all the tools to use the score to make real audible music. So some kind of help to make this process easier would be helpfull. Hajo -- --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Switch polyrhythms in staffs
Hello,
there is one problem which I can not resolve:
On a Pianostaff I have an upper voice with \time 18/16 which I coded:
\score ...
\new Staff = upper {
...
\time 3/4
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(18 . 16)
\compressMusic #'(4 . 6)
\soprano }
and a lower staff:
\new Staff = lower { ... \time 3/4 \bass }
...
}
This works fine until I have to switch the measure to 3/4 in the upper and
18/16 in the lower staff. And I have to do that a lot of times.
Where and how can I perform these changes.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
All the best Hajo
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