Re: OpenLilyLib include-pattern, instrument header, and \include layout { }
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:21 PM Karlin High wrote: > to get the behavior of \header { instrument = "whatever" }, > as seen with \bookpart, Another idea: What's available for changing the "instrument" header mid-piece, without using \bookpart at all? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
OpenLilyLib include-pattern, instrument header, and \include layout { }
Continuing from <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2024-01/msg00239.html> Intel Core i5-2400, 16 GB RAM, Windows 10 22H2, LilyPond 2.24.3 My project is an index of tunes for a hymnal that has never been printed with notation, only lyrics, allowing the use of whatever tunes are suitable. The finished tune index will be part of a pocket-size book, 3-3/8" x 5" (85mm x 127mm) with ~10 single staves per page, each with notation for the first line of a tune as sung. OpenLilyLib (version 0.6.0) \includePattern is working well to include 233 (and counting) .ly files grouped by meter into 16 subdirectories. Instead of having to write and maintain \include statements for each file, there is an \includePattern for each directory. Ideally, there would be a printed header at each meter change, repeated at the top of following pages. At first I tried using bookparts for this: % \bookpart { \header { instrument = "Short Meter" } \includePattern "../M03 Short Meter" \pattern } % That worked reasonably well, except I would like \bookpart to not cause page breaks with unfull pages when a meter changes. Now, I also want a global \include file for layout. Editorial feedback so far, coming from an \aikenThinHeads music tradition, says the Staff Size 11 I'm using needs larger noteheads and lighter staff lines. I have the \override statements worked out to get those results. I am sure there are more such requests to come. I want the \override statements (or whatever equivalent) which I'd normally enter in score-level \layout{ } blocks, to work like the #(set-global-staff-size 11) statement that affects everything \includePattern brings in. Enter one place, and it "does it to everything." But so far, I haven't figured out how to have \includePattern allow using a variable defined in a top-level \include statement for \layout { } inside a \bookpart. Here is what I am seeing, in the Bash from Git 2.14.2.2 for Windows, in hopes of being more Linux-like with file paths etc. owner@LenovoM91p MINGW64 ~ $ cat globalLayout.ily \version "2.24" globalLayout = \layout { indent = 0 } owner@LenovoM91p MINGW64 ~ $ cat ./tunes/song.ly \version "2.24" \include "english.ly" \include "../globalLayout.ily" \score { c' \globalLayout } owner@LenovoM91p MINGW64 ~ $ cat book.ly \version "2.24" \include "oll-core/package.ily" \loadModule oll-core.util.include-pattern pattern = ".*\\.ly" % Works perfectly \includePattern "tunes" \pattern %{ gives error \bookpart { \includePattern "tunes" \pattern } %} If that last error-causing \bookpart is uncommented, it goes: owner@LenovoM91p MINGW64 ~ $ /c/Program\ Files/lilypond-2.24.3/bin/lilypond.exe book.ly Processing `book.ly' Parsing... oll-core: library infrastructure successfully loaded. book.ly:12:1: error: syntax error, unexpected SYMBOL \includePattern "tunes" \pattern tunes/../globalLayout.ily:2:1: error: syntax error, unexpected SYMBOL globalLayout = \layout { tunes/../globalLayout.ily:2:16: error: need \paper for paper block globalLayout = \layout { Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Converting to `book.pdf'... fatal error: failed files: "book.ly" I expect I am misunderstanding something about \include and \bookpart. Concluding summary: What ways are there, to get the behavior of \header { instrument = "whatever" }, as seen with \bookpart, but without the page breaks, while having a global \include file for \layout { }, that is effective for everything loaded by OLL's \includePattern statements? (Feels like the "All in the House That Jack Built" poem, only it is Han-Wen, Jan, and others in this case.) -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Printing music with CSS Grid: any relevance to LilyPond?
On another forum, I came across a web-development demo that uses CSS Grid to display responsive-layout music notation. <https://cruncher.ch/blog/printing-music-with-css-grid/> " *Printing music with CSS Grid* Too often have I witnessed the improvising musician sweaty-handedly attempting to pinch-zoom an A4 pdf on a tiny mobile screen at the climax of a gig. We need fluid and responsive music rendering for the web! [...] *Limits of Flex and Grid* Is it the perfect system? Honestly, I'm quietly gobsmacked that it works so well, but if we are looking for caveats… 1. CSS cannot automatically position a new clef/key signature at the beginning of each wrapped line, or 2. tie a head to a new head on a new line. And 3., angled beams are a whole story onto themselves; 1/16th and 1/32nd note beams are hard to align because we cannot know precisely where their stems are until after the Grid has laid them out: [image example] So it's going to need a bit of tidy-up JavaScript to finish the job completely, but CSS shoulders the bulk of the layout work here, and that means far less layout work to do in JavaScript. " Somehow, it reminds me of LilyPond and related efforts such as the Spontini editor. I am passing it on in case it has any possibilities for such projects, without implying that it does. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Fw: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives?
On 4/30/2024 10:25 AM, Jennifer Doering wrote: What happened to the Frescobaldi dev? Just doesn't have time to maintain it anymore? Link to past discussion: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2022-11/msg00131.html> His software development activity appears reduced after a health crisis in 2021. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.25.14
On 3/23/2024 2:00 PM, Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: Would be interesting to see how this compares to the "vanilla" package I tried it, 3 runs. First one maybe unfair because font cache initialization or something. real0m48.643s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.031s real0m31.457s user0m0.015s sys 0m0.000s real0m31.591s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.031s The another with the JIT version: real0m32.319s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.030s But I expect I should get the computer otherwise idle as far as possible for this. I had other software running, but nothing with heavy loads. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.25.14
On 3/23/2024 11:39 AM, Robin Bannister wrote: I have nothing large. The attached zip folder is what I used in the previous post. It was derived from a post by Vaughan McAlley in 2016, updated via convert-ly to the version in question here. It looks like back in 2016, on the same computer I now have, LilyPond 2.19.46 was taking 1 min 4 seconds for it. Congrats on the speed-up, developers! -- Karlin High Missouri, USA <>
Re: LilyPond 2.25.14
On 3/23/2024 10:02 AM, Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion wrote: Windows build with Guile JIT: https://cloud.hahnjo.de/s/Ek5x9rybpiPNtoj This turns on just-in-time compilation that was added in Guile 3.0, but we had to keep disabled on Windows until now. Please test, especially on larger scores where this should provide a performance advantage. Carver MSDM.ly, subject of many past performance-test posts. Inte Core i5-3450 24 GB RAM Windows 10 22H2 real 0m32.109s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.015s -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond Swift Library
On 3/22/2024 10:15 AM, Sam Dimarcos wrote: the realm of iOS and Swift? So long as the Apple App Store is the only way to get apps onto iOS devices, for anything LilyPond-derived there would be a need to make peace between the App Store terms and the GNU General Public License. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help
On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 2:54 PM George wrote: > Thank you Karlin for the promptness with which you responded. I'm glad, but > unfortunately I can't benefit from your wonderful program because I use > Windows 7 and I don't have the resources for Windows 10. Anyway, thank you > and I wish you the best of luck in the future, George. > God bless! I am confident there is a way to get LilyPond running on Windows 7. If not a current version, then one of the older ones. <https://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/> PS: In future messages to the LilyPond community, use Reply All or otherwise include lilypond-user@gnu.org in the list of recipients. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help
On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 7:48 PM George wrote: > I would like to know if your program can export as Picture and PDF. > Yes: PDF and PNG. See the Usage Manual for more options. < https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/usage/command_002dline-usage#basic-command-line-options-for-lilypond > -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: installation
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 5:42 AM wrote: > This is not what is shown on the installation page > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/learning/graphical-setup-under-windows > > > > How should I proceed? > Maybe the window size is hiding the "Edit" button described in the documentation page. Try the scroll bar circled in red below: [image: image.png] -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Include all files in a folder
On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 7:00 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > \includePattern has a \version statement with 2.24.0, so it would appear > to still be relevant. > Sure enough! I had experimented with that a little but had already counted it as yet another defeat at getting OpenLilyLib working on Windows. With your encouragement, I downloaded the zip folder from < https://github.com/openlilylib/oll-core>. I extracted it and located the oll-core folder under C:\Program Files\lilypond-2.24.3\share\lilypond\2.24.3\ly, based on initial errors giving include paths. (Is there an "official" place to put it?) Then I have... % \version "2.24" \include "oll-core/package.ily" \loadModule oll-core.util.include-pattern pattern = ".*\\.ly" \includePattern "tunes" \pattern % ...and it produced a PDF from the .ly files in the "tunes" subfolder. Thanks, Aaron! The project is an index of tunes for a hymnal that has never been printed with notation, only lyrics, allowing the use of whatever tune is suitable. The first printing was in 1847 and the most recent was in 2022, I think. < https://hymnary.org/hymnal/CPHS1884> -- \Karlin High Missouri, USA
Include all files in a folder
The question was answered in 2016: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-08/msg00560.html> What would be the current version of the answer? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Платих сметката два пъти
Phishing website reported to Google Safe Browsing. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Fw: I wrote a MIDI to Lily front end; also questions about video
On 12/7/2023 12:48 PM, Stefano Antonelli wrote: Is downloading soundfonts 'standard practice' for working with midi on Windows? Would anyone wanting to use ly2video on windows already know this if they are familiar with midi? I doubt it is common for Windows users to interact with soundfonts. I know it wasn't for me, anyway. My computer experience began and continues with Windows. I was using Windows for a good number of years before encountering the term: A sound FONT, huh. What's next, a text EQ? People who don't know how MIDI differs from audio recordings will probably just use whatever opens it, Windows Media Player even. And those who are really into MIDI probably will use DAW software with virtual-instrument plugins. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Fw: I wrote a MIDI to Lily front end; also questions about video
On 12/7/2023 12:30 PM, Stefano Antonelli wrote: It's the same deal for fluidsynth which doesn't come with sound fonts. What's the windows way to convert midi to wav? FluidSynth can do it. I use VLC Player which I think contains it. Prior post explains: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-04/msg00764.html> Here is my favorite place to get soundfonts: <http://www.schristiancollins.com/generaluser.php> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Video generation from multiple pages
On 12/1/2023 2:21 PM, Stefano Antonelli wrote: trying to modify ly2video to produce a different kind of video Have you seen Knut Petersen's MKVIDEO project? <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-07/msg00234.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00095.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00098.html> Possibly it would offer some additional inspiration. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.24.3 and Norton 360
On 11/24/2023 9:38 AM, Knute Snortum wrote: My hope is this will help others in the same situation. To further that hope, Norton has a website for reporting false-positives. Hub page: <https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/kb20090602171902EN> File submission: <https://submit.norton.com/?type=FP> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.25.10 with Guile 3.0
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:26 AM Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion wrote: > If you have some time, please test them in your setups and report back in > case of problems! Seems OK so far. Windows 11 21H2, Intel Core i5-1135G7. " >lilypond.exe scheme-sandbox GNU LilyPond 2.25.10 (running Guile 3.0) Processing `C:/Users/owner/AppData/Local/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/lilypond-binaries/lilypond-2.25.10/share/lilypond/2.25.10/ly/scheme-sandbox.ly' Parsing... GNU Guile 3.0.9 " When I run convert-ly, it makes version statements "2.25.9". I can't remember if that is expected or not for the 2.25.10 binaries. No warnings of outdated versions are given when compiling the results. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?
On 10/16/2023 7:14 AM, Kevin Cole wrote: there's a lyric "(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff. I have seen choral works use "X" note heads to indicate claps or foot-stomps. The commands \xNotesOn and \xNotesOff seem worth trying. <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/note-heads> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.25.9
On 10/7/2023 10:41 AM, Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development wrote: With this release, LilyPond's HTML documentation switches (back) to texi2any. While we tried to make sure that existing links will continue to work, please report back if that is not the case. The initial appearance is good. Jonas, you are somehow the go-to developer for major technical-debt upgrades like this. Whatever further adjustments texi2any ends up needing, just having this in place is an excellent accomplishment. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: embed lilypond into godot application
On 7/27/2023 12:52 AM, Stjepan Horvat wrote: This is what i have made so far Looks very interesting. Is there any public website I can follow for that project? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Discourse
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:52 AM Andrew Bernard wrote: > Sorry, it can't interface to GNU Mailman, although, as said, it can > import such lists. > I was thinking more indirectly, with the only "interface" between them being email: * Every list email becomes a Discourse email-origin post * Every Discourse-origin post becomes a list email Unless there are reasons unknown to me why that wouldn't work well? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA >
Re: Discourse
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:12 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > a bridge with this list. This existed in the past with Nabble. If Discourse can be configured to simply provide a web interface for the email list, I think that would be more of a restoration rather than a change to the LilyPond community's group communication. I've interacted via email with another Discourse forum, containing a fair number of members using email exclusively for it, and it seemed to work well. Some web-only features such as polls would not be accessible via email and would either need disabled down to email-equivalent functionality or make Discourse users aware that posts of that nature will not reach the full community. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Spontini-Editor 1.20 released
On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 6:59 AM Paolo Prete wrote: > A new release (1.20-alpha) of Spontini-Editor is available Looks very nice so far! I have it running on Windows 10, will explore further. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Future of OpenLilyLib
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 6:11 PM Andrew Bernard wrote: > it costs money for me to run the server > What storage and RAM is needed? I might be able to host it for you. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA >
Re: Future of OpenLilyLib
On 11/21/2022 11:09 AM, Mark Knoop wrote: It would be good to get a feel from users how much this resource isused I have heard lots of good things about OpenLilyLib. But I remain somewhat unclear as to what it offers and how it would be used in my usages for SATB/TTBB shape-note hymns and light choral works. My first experience with OLL was downloading the zip folder with it, just to start poking it with sticks and see what it does. I extracted the zip, tried to use with LilyPond on Windows, and got lots of file path errors about not being able to find things or do anything. It seemed like I could not find "a way in" to making use of it. Asking questions on the lists and such left me feel like I was burdening the developers for it, needing "explain it like I am 5 years old" efforts when they could best serve the community by exploring and advancing the limits of LilyPond's capabilities with others who were already up to speed in the relevant areas. I still have a dream project of using LilyPond to produce a new edition of a hymnal containing 467 songs. The Edition Engraver seems like a must-have for that. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.23.81
On 11/15/2022 2:30 PM, Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development wrote: b) whether we would need to buy a certificate for that. I think the answer is "yes, need to buy certificate." And even that is no guarantee of executables not getting flagged after downloads, UNLESS there is a large and powerful outfit behind the signature that the security companies wish to avoid angering. <http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/> If a certificate WAS pursed, with macOS having the greatest need I expect, it looks like it would need contact info and a mailing address. That is where I stopped research, having no idea what would be used there. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: New hosting for Urs Liska's Scheme WIP book
On 11/3/2022 5:39 PM, Jean Abou Samra wrote: If you have thoughts on the best path towards making it easy for people to learn Scheme, with these two resources as a starting point, feel free to express them. I am glad to see this effort, thank you for doing it. Within the past week, I used define-music-function in a fashion other than cargo-cult for the first time. It was in a SATB choral piece. There is temporary polyphony within a single part some places. I started out writing it as chords, then saw there was unison notes within the temporary polyphony. I want them to show stems up and down indicating unison has not ended. Therefore I went, <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices> " A temporary polyphonic passage can be created with the following construct: << { \voiceOne … } \new Voice { \voiceTwo … } >> \oneVoice " ...but got tired of having all that code each time there was a unison note among the temporary-polyphony chords. Could a music function or something be shorthand for that? Let's see... <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/substitution-function-syntax> That page is pretty ideal. Here's the general form, what it contains, and how it can be used. I ended up with this: % \version "2.23.80" uniTwo = #(define-music-function (uniNote) (ly:music?) #{ << { \voiceOne #uniNote } \new Voice { \voiceTwo #uniNote } >> \oneVoice #}) { c'4 \uniTwo e' g' } % I may end up replacing all the chords with the temporary-polyphony construct. And I may get told my \uniTwo function is very far from best practice. Regardless, Scheme code seems a bit more approachable now. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.23.80
On 10/22/2022 3:32 PM, Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion wrote: test your scores with this version All seems well after several hours of light use on Windows 10. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: another 'wrong type argument' error
On 10/13/2022 11:30 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: actual Mac hardware I have a 2012 MacBook Air, Intel Core i5, 4 GB RAM, macOS Catalina 10.15.7, for an Apple-specific use case. I expect it will soon be left behind by the Apple upgrades train and need replaced for my purposes. I could donate this to any developer wanting to take on responsibility for macOS releases. Or I could play a janitor role with it, such as having it sit here waiting for a GitLab Runner or equivalent. <https://docs.gitlab.com/runner/install/osx.html> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond 2.23.14
On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 3:57 PM Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development wrote: > please test with your use cases and notify us of any problems. I spent a few hours yesterday with LilyPond 2.23.14 and Frescobaldi 3.2, on Windows 10 21H1. While I am not the most demanding user -- mostly doing SATB/TTBB shape-note hymns and light choral works -- all seems well for me with this release. In spite of the major foundational upgrades completed and underway such as Guile 2+ and Cairo, the software is still LilyPond-as-expected and I would not be aware of the changes if I was not following the mailing lists. Kudos to all involved, especially Jonas Hahnfeld for managing the releases. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond-2.22.2 does not work on Windows XP
On 10/13/2022 10:27 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: run legacy software on a Windows XP virtual machine That reminds me -- Windows 7 Pro with its XP Mode based on Microsoft Virtual PC, that would be less of an ask. I have remote access to one of those, but it is at a customer's place and is dedicated to doing batch-copying of files into NETBEUI shares for CNC controls still using that protocol. I better not use it for this testing effort. ;-) -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond-2.22.2 does not work on Windows XP
On 10/12/2022 6:51 PM, Dag Bergman wrote: I get the error message: “The system cannot execute the specified program.” This seems like a pretty broad error. I see mentions of needing Right-Click -> Properties -> Unblock, to allow a downloaded executable to run. Other cases involve system files or runtime libraries of some sort... <https://postgrespro.com/list/thread-id/1508411> I am afraid sorting out issues like this is going to "come with the territory" of making operating systems keep working long after being abandoned by their producers. Sometimes people have major reasons for doing so, as in "hard binding to big equipment that costs more than a house to upgrade." When asking for help with them, though, the starting assumption in response will usually be that anything not working can be blamed on the expired system. I could check my "fencerow" to see if any startable Windows XP machines remain in it for helping test this, but keep expectations near zero and allow at least a week. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: LilyPond-2.22.2 does not work on Windows XP
Which link did you use? This one? <http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.22.2-1.mingw.exe> The full collection of past downloads is here: <http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/> Try 2.20 or 2.18 if a fresh download of 2.22 doesn't work. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Solfege Syllables Easy Notes
On 10/7/2022 2:35 PM, Craig Bakalian wrote: Is there a way to get solfege syllables into the easy note system? Probably, although I expect you will have to further define the result you want. Is there an example of such a product anywhere the community could observe, either online or posted attachment? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine
On 8/19/2022 3:35 PM, Benjamin Bruce wrote: Thank you, David, for finding "Hallelujah, Praise Jehovah." Yes, finding a song that is a reliable source of the condition is ideal. Here is what I found for it on hymnary.org: <https://hymnary.org/tune/praise_jehovah_kirkpatrick> Page scans: <https://hymnary.org/hymn/SS4C1956/page/71> <https://hymnary.org/hymn/SHCW1911/page/250> Note the URLs containing the hymnal code, last 4 is year of publication. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine
On 8/18/2022 11:43 PM, David F. wrote: Now I’m wondering how representative those two hymnals are. The shape-note community, optimized for participation rather than professional excellence, does not appear to have an authority equivalent to Elaine Gould for its proprieties. I'm asking groups available to me how they see the unison-FA issue, no responses yet. I do know this: the code comment from note-collision.cc that Werner Lemberg posted cannot be disregarded. /* The solfa is a triangle, which is inverted depending on stem direction. In case of a collision, one of them should be removed, so the resulting note does not look like a block. */ I have experienced that thing. Once in a group learning a new song engraved with non-Lilypond software, we encountered what appeared to be erroneous rectangle LA shapes resulting from 2 wrongly-merged black-note unison FA triangles. It was a mystery to all except the few with music-engraving experience. If a group of people with minimal music education wants to have full SATB or TTBB harmony by the second verse of a never-before-seen hymn, then this matters. For people with more music education and good line/staff unshaped-notes sight-reading skills, it matters much less. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?
On 8/18/2022 5:48 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: Every layman seems to have a different 'layman's term' for things, some of which are true alternatives and some of which are just plain wrong. Doing residential tech support, I will never forget the man who referred to the desktop background picture as "the screen saver." Or the lady, may she rest in peace, whose term for all forms of email was "Outlook Express." I don't think, as you say, your question is dumb, and in no way intend to diminish it with my comments. I just think this is what I call a 'hard problem.' I agree, and appreciate the effort you put into writing that. I second Jean Abou Samra's motion for expanding the index if it seems good to so so. Lilypond.org is hosted on a Google service, I believe? Are there ways to see what search terms people use to arrive at given documentation resources? If there are recognizable patterns, like there's this one word people follow over and over again to a manual page mostly using unlike terms, maybe that could be seen as a call to add an index entry. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Byzantine singing
Okay, this site was the most interesting thing I'd found. <https://silpayamanant.wordpress.com/music-notation-software/> "This is a growing list of music notation programs and resources which aren’t specifically Common Western Notations (CWN) programs." There is a list of Byzantine Chant projects. If any are still active, perhaps their people might be able to help. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Byzantine singing
On 7/31/2022 2:54 PM, Лысов Дмитрий wrote: Are there any developments on this topic at all? Web search found this: Encoding Byzantine Music Notation (ca. 1600-1814) <http://scholar.uoa.gr/sites/default/files/georgaki/files/74_encodingbyzantinemusicnotation_2018_bourischaldeakesgeorgaki.pdf> Lilychant: front-end for LilyPond to create scores for Orthodox chants <http://www.orthodoxeastmidlands.uk/music/> (Dead links; web.archive.org Wayback Machine might help.) -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: which installation files contain code for notehead styles?
On 7/11/2022 1:01 PM, jerome talkington wrote: file containing the code for predefined notehead styles I am not the greatest expert on this. But property-init.ly seems to have many things like that. <https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/blob/master/ly/property-init.ly> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Looking for the proper term to search for... like a... prelude? maybe?
On 7/5/2022 9:03 AM, Kevin Cole wrote: I just have no idea what the syntax for starting a new staff "late" is. From this email list I learned the term "Frenched Score." It refers to removing unused staves, and is explained at the documentation link given earlier: <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/modifying-single-staves.html#hiding-staves> Which place also shows the \RemoveAllEmptyStaves command for doing that. For the vocal staff starting 8 measures later, I'd try giving it full-measure rests like { R1 } until it's ready to start. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Musescore/musicxml questions
On 6/30/2022 11:50 AM, Kira Garvie wrote: I am having issues exporting an xml file and having it keep its formatting. Can you further describe the workflow, source and destination of the export? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: lilybin is down - alternatives?
On 6/30/2022 8:02 AM, Paulo Matos wrote: unfortunately there's no way to share a snippet by link, which is a useful feature. It would cost them some storage, etc to provide that. And if their project needs ongoing funding, to me that sounds like an ideal paid-premium feature. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Playback using Frescobaldi?
On 6/23/2022 9:15 AM, Kira Garvie wrote: I hope I can figure something out from your answers I don't see anyone asked this: What operating system are you using? Windows, Linux, Mac? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Custom keypad for streamlining LilyPond input - thoughts?
On 4/7/2022 7:34 PM, Nikolai Hedler wrote: Has something like this been done before for LilyPond? I am reminded of Denemo. <http://denemo.org/> " Denemo allows you to use the numeric keypad as a kind of rhythm instrument – you play in a phrase or two of the music using the number keys to indicate the note durations. Audible feedback lets you hear what you have entered; playing the phrase a second time on a real instrument adds the pitches to the rhythm. " -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: help (Windows 10 downloads)
On 3/25/2022 11:25 AM, Felix Maude wrote: i have the windows 10, I keep getting a message can't load is it safe, please inform what I may do to resolve this really need the program. Microsoft often considers unfamiliar downloaded executables as "guilty until proven innocent." Where it says the download is unsafe, there should be options for opening it anyhow. It might say "Options" or "Advanced." -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Teaser: Animated Lilypond Scores
On 2/18/2022 7:07 AM, Valentin Petzel wrote: I have created an experimental script to turn a Lilypond score into an animated video. Nice! Before, we had 2 different methods for generating video from LilyPond. ly2video, by Adam Spiers, which makes a scrolling score. <https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video> MKVIDEO, by Knut Petersen, which makes a still score with notes changing color as they are played. <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-07/msg00234.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00095.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00098.html> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWYmrwTcqQ> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXVB8uSTxk> Now the video you've produced has a moving blue bar reminding me of the MuseScore software's playback function. I think ideally these things would be combined into a best-hybrid product that's officially maintained within LilyPond or along-side as Frescobaldi is. Or whatever best serves the community around it. As LilyPond moves towards using the cairo library for graphics output, I hope these video output methods (or something like them) is available beyond the transition. Video scores can be great learning aids for complex choral works. (Reminds me, I told someone I could get them one of "Worthy Is The Lamb" from Handel's Messiah by spring...) -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: CPU stress tests for LilyPond
On 11/30/2021 7:26 AM, Paolo Prete wrote: Are there any test sheets with different CPUs and the time they take to output a score that takes a long time to compile? Search the archives for Carver MDSM. <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-11/msg00700.html> It's a large project that has often been used for performance comparisons. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: iOS app question
On 11/3/2021 10:19 AM, Darcy Phillips wrote: I am wanting to create an app for iOS that utilizes some music notation, and wondering about using Lilypond. What would be the best way to incorporate Lilypond into a swift app on Xcode? Would the app get published for iOS, like on the Apple App Store? If so, for long-term sustainability, Step One would be broker a peace treaty between the Free Software Foundation's GNU GPL and Apple's App Store policies. <https://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Licensing and custom lines
On 10/28/2021 2:30 AM, Charlie Boilley wrote: how can be 100% sure For some kinds of intellectual property questions, such certainty may not be available. If the question affects a very large and expensive production, consulting with a qualified attorney may be in order. For my own personal-use things, I've observed the Free Software Foundation and the LilyPond community long enough to have a fair idea of what they would and would not tolerate for usages of their products. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Double slurs and custom part combining
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 1:52 PM Jefferson Felix wrote: > it's not generating doubleSlurs, but when I remove the pair of numbers > after \partCombine, doubleSlurs works. > > Am I doing something wrong? I also live in a music tradition with joined-notes hymnals. I use \partcombine #'(2 . 9) In your example, I think the doubleSlurs ARE generating, it's just that they both go in the same direction and appear as one. Try using the direction indicators ^ and _ to correct this: soprano = \relative c' { \global f1 a1^( g2) g } alto = \relative c' { \global f1 f1_( e2) e } -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: responses in hymn tunes?
On 10/2/2021 4:47 PM, Kira Garvie wrote: I added the repeat voltas to the response, but now I have extra barlines! You can try entering the TenorResponse lyrics just like I gave it. The lyrics will follow the volta/alternative structure defined in StanzaTwo. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: responses in hymn tunes?
On 10/2/2021 4:55 PM, Kira Garvie wrote: some of the features of FlexScores only work with 2.16.2, so that is why Hymnary still uses it. Understandable and unfortunate. It will be harder to get good help for older versions. Especially from me. Effectively all of my LilyPond experience comes after 2.18, so my advice won't be reliable for versions prior to that. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: responses in hymn tunes?
On 10/2/2021 4:18 PM, Kira Garvie wrote: how to add a tenor response within the repeat of a hymn tune when there is also a response in the verses. You are doing work for or from hymnary.org? Nice! The song you have there is one I learned around age 6 in school, from this thing: <https://hymnary.org/hymn/CSSH1902/330> So my response is a little incautious, thinking I know exactly what's needed, and may stand for some correction. TenorResponse = \lyricmode { \repeat unfold 11 { \skip 1 } Send the light! Send the light! \repeat unfold 11 { \skip 1 } Send the light! Send the light! % BEGIN SUGGESTION Send the light the bless -- ed gos -- pel light. Let it shine From shore to shore Let it shine For -- ev -- er -- more % END SUGGESTION } -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: lilypond book
On 9/21/2021 5:17 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: If you're familiar with LaTeX, you can create a document that invokes Lilypond scores: In that case, there is also lyluatex: <https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Having an actual hyphen in the lyrics?
On 9/14/2021 5:05 PM, Kira Garvie wrote: Okay, I tried that, but it bumps the lyrics all over one. Try an underscore between the word "on" and the hypen: The fight is on_- the trump -- pet sound -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:32 PM Kira Garvie wrote: > how do I insert the curly quotes? If you are using Frescobaldi: Ctrl + ' = ‘’ Ctrl + Shift + " = “” The “curly” typographical quotes will be inserted as a pair. If text is highlighted first, there will be on each side of the highlighted passage. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help!
On 8/4/2021 12:39 PM, David Niles wrote: I successfully downloaded Frescobaldi but I can’t get to the default page. What am I doing wrong? If you have Frescobaldi running, click the menu for File -> New ->, and there should be options for a few templates and the Score Wizard to help set things up. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Custom note names, or meta-score?
On 7/31/2021 3:47 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: It is funny how similar our approaches were. Great minds, y'know... :APPLAUSE: -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help!
On 7/29/2021 5:31 PM, David Niles wrote: Lilypond is installed and working. My operating system is Windows. In the future, please use your email software's "Reply All" feature so copies go to the mailing list as well as conversation participants. Otherwise, just the one person will be seeing requests. Now, I understand you have a Windows computer with a working LilyPond. You wonder where to begin entering LilyPond code. I recommend the Frescobaldi editor, current download is here: <https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/download/v3.1.3/Frescobaldi.Setup.3.1.3.exe> That will have a nice text editor window and a button to click which runs LilyPond and shows the results in a preview pane. For further details, the Frescobaldi user guide is here: <https://www.frescobaldi.org/uguide> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help!
On 7/29/2021 2:57 PM, David Niles wrote: However I must be the class dummy People aware of their own ignorance are not in the running for that title. No one was born knowing LilyPond. Everyone has to start somewhere. LilyPond has assumptions and design choices that are easier for some people to learn than others, based on natural inclinations and background experience. For example, a Windows native like me has lots to learn about GNU/Linux ways of doing things. because I still can't figure out where I can start my inputting. I guess I am looking for something that says, in effect, "start here." What operating system is your computer running? Linux, Mac, Windows? Does it have the LilyPond software installed and working? If uncertain, there are web-based run-in-a-browser LilyPonds available that need no setup at all: <https://www.hacklily.org/> All you have to do is go to that website, and it will load some minimal example code you can begin editing. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Help!
On 7/29/2021 1:30 PM, David Niles wrote: I can’t figure out where to start a new score of mine. I was once told "you cannot steer a parked car." Out of courtesy I will assume your study of tutorials and manuals included this web page. <http://lilypond.org/text-input.html> Try entering just a few bars of pitches and rhythms, and see how it turns out. Once this email list can review what you have and understand what you are trying to do, it will be easier to give good help. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: What is happening on the email thing? CONTENTS DELETED
On 6/24/2021 1:46 PM, darki...@jesusgod-pope666.info wrote: Why are so many contents being deleted on the email list I understand the Nabble website is an effort to have a forum-like interface for the email list. If Nabble is having trouble somehow, past messages should be available on the official GNU Lists archive. <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: changing feta23 fonts
On 5/14/2021 9:07 AM, darki...@jesusgod-pope666.info wrote: It's not the staff I have issues with, it is how to fix the font in the noteheads. To "fix the font in the noteheads," you mean make them larger or smaller? Try this, after the music: \layout { \context { \Staff \override NoteHead.font-size = #1.5 } } -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: changing feta23 fonts
On 5/14/2021 8:59 AM, darki...@jesusgod-pope666.info wrote: Just want to try out this feta18 20 22 or whatever, and see what fits best. Okay, then try this line. Probably at the top of the file before any music: #(set-global-staff-size 18) -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: changing feta23 fonts
On 5/13/2021 11:18 PM, darki...@jesusgod-pope666.info wrote: Where do I find the option for these fonts to change them I'm not sure what you want the fonts changed TO, but here's some information: <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/replacing-the-notation-font> More font choices and their usage info is available at Abraham Lee's Music Type Foundry: <http://www.musictypefoundry.com/> And if you want to actually EDIT the Feta font, that's also possible. That's getting more into LilyPond development than just regular usage, and not really expected for relative beginners like you or me. I know effectively nothing about it. But here's the info: <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/contributor/modifying-the-emmentaler-font> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Teaching
On 5/12/2021 5:28 PM, Calvin Ransom wrote: I would like to show them examples of the immense capabilities LilyPond has. Would any of your class be interested in video scores made with LilyPond? I know of 2 different methods for this. ly2video, by Adam Spiers <https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video> MKVIDEO, by Knut Petersen <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-07/msg00234.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00095.html> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-11/msg00098.html> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWYmrwTcqQ> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXVB8uSTxk> Here is a video score project I did for "As The Hart," an English translation of Palestrina's "Sicut Cervus." There are videos for the full score as well as ones for practicing each vocal part. <https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ar89LqAF-jxagelx2K9-_UbIaDNlWw?e=CL7elb> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Testing testing is there connection?
On 5/12/2021 5:17 PM, * Darkijah-Anders Jehovahsøn * wrote: Yup have looked through examples and seen all the video tutorials. Fixed a color script today and another note sheet although not done but I got the rebound lyrics to work and others. On May 13, 2021 12:09:59 AM GMT+02:00, Karlin High wrote: On 5/12/2021 4:54 PM, * Darkijah-Anders Jehovahsøn * wrote: I'm new to all of this. Hopefully this works. It works. :) Have you seen the LilyPond Learning Manual? <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/web/learning> That is a good starting point. Glad to hear. In the future, please use your email's "Reply All" feature so messages go to the mailing list as well as the person responding. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Testing testing is there connection?
On 5/12/2021 4:54 PM, * Darkijah-Anders Jehovahsøn * wrote: I'm new to all of this. Hopefully this works. It works. :) Have you seen the LilyPond Learning Manual? <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/web/learning> That is a good starting point. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Make two headers on the same page
On 4/23/2021 5:45 PM, Николай Аничков wrote: Please help me create two titles on the same page. Here is one way. % BEGIN LILYPOND CODE \version "2.19.48" % The latest version lilybin.com currently has \header { title = \markup { \fill-line { \center-column { "First Title" "Second Title" } } } } { c' } % END LILYPOND CODE -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Lilypond 64-bit binaries
On 4/22/2021 1:32 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I believe I have a client who might be willing to donate time on an internet-accessible Apple server. I'm pretty sure the original discussion mentioned MacStadium, a macOS hosting service. <https://www.macstadium.com/opensource> "To support the FOSS community, MacStadium is offering FREE Mac mini hosting for developers working on open source projects." -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Text placing in two-choir pice
On 4/11/2021 3:08 PM, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: I'm beginning to set Psalm 100 by Heinrich Schütz. This reminds me of Brent Annable's post from 2018 with the entire Schwanengesang. The Psalm 100 would be near the end. <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-05/msg00204.html> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: A work-in-progress guide to extending LilyPond
On 4/5/2021 2:37 PM, Jean Abou Samra wrote: I wrote up the start of something that could someday resemble an introduction to extending and a guide covering programming topics. I like what I see. So far it looks like my best starting point yet for learning the inner workings of LilyPond. My perspective is as someone who's settled for "permanent novice" status. I've learned enough LilyPond for my current purposes, which center on SATB hymns. Further exploration of the LilyPond ecosystem tends to stay postponed. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Custom Format
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 7:31 PM Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: > In my system I would write something like this: > > \version "2.22.0" > { > 0' 4' 7' 4' > } > > LilyPond uses numbers for durations. In your case, if numbers are pitches, what would you have for durations? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Wavy lines - contemporary notation
On 3/26/2021 2:57 PM, Rachel Green wrote: How can I create a wavy line as in this picture? A past post with code for a "Decaying squiggle" might be a starting point. <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00378.html> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: why Kieren is a \relative evangelist [was “Re: Nested transposition"]
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:36 PM Paul Scott wrote: > Any suggestions for small inexpensive MIDI keyboards? > I have an M-AUDIO Keystation 49e. Current version: <https://m-audio.com/keystation-49-mk3> Also available in 61-key and 88-key versions, entire product family here: <https://m-audio.com/products/browse/category/keyboards-and-controllers> Note it's strictly a midi input device. It cannot make any sound whatsoever by itself. When I was using it most, I had a free version of the Bome Midi Translator software... <https://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator> ...to map unused MIDI-keys to text-keystrokes, and SpeedyMIDI for recording the input: <https://speedymidi.sourceforge.io/> Then I used midi2ly on the results. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Custom music notation?
On 2/4/2021 4:36 PM, ebenezer wrote: If someone came up with a notation system that enabled teenage girls to be able to sing a song just by simply looking at it, well, within a decade or 2 it's use would be global. Where I live, that notation system is the Aiken shape notes seen here: <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/note-heads#shape-note-heads> There are church communities here where people seriously do not know that the rest of the world uses "unshaped" notes. And with pretty minimal music education, a never-before-seen hymn can have full SATB harmony by the second verse. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Fwd: Re: Custom music notation?
Pashkuli Keyboard: Use your email client's "Reply All" option so messages go to all participants and the email list, instead of just the most recent poster. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Custom music notation? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:48:17 + From: Pashkuli Keyboard To: Karlin High Hello, *Carl* Yes, I agree with your remarks regarding "spacing" of pitch, but let me point out that the standard notation also eliminates at least 42% of this by adding accidental symbols and 8va, 15ma amendments where needed. The purpose of PMN is to represent pitch by shape and melodic intervals by horizontal position (with some vertical renova changes). It's main purpose is to be concise and 1:1 representation of the 12 notes (your 1st remark) and clear symbolic view as much as possible (no extra lines, crossing, etc which clutter the view), regardless of any reference scale (your 2nd remark; the Natural major in "standard" notation). It is more like a "compression" format for music notation.
Re: Custom music notation?
On 2/4/2021 9:36 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: A second disadvantage of this notation, I'm forming the opinion that conventional notation is like the QWERTY keyboard layout. There are different ideas out there for improving it, but it would need like a 10X improvement to build any momentum towards having something become a new standard. However, there ARE other notation systems that apparently have gained a strong following within a particular music scene, Chinese Jianpu for example. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Custom music notation?
On 2/4/2021 8:33 AM, Pashkuli Keyboard wrote: If Lilypond devs can give some advices or instruction on how I can modify the code to be able to get *PMN* in some early working pre-alpha stage, that would be fantastic! LilyPond has been customized before to produce alternative notation. Paul Morris' Clairnote project is probably the most notable example. <https://clairnote.org/software/> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Remove "Solo" text when using part combiner
On 1/27/2021 9:03 PM, Calvin Ransom wrote: I am combining some piano parts and LilyPond engraves the word "Solo" in various places, is there any way to prevent this from happening? <https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices> \new Staff \with { printPartCombineTexts = ##f } -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: feasibilty question: simple GUI for web-based Lilypond instance
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 3:36 PM Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > The app/site *must* allow entry of notes using either a MIDI keyboard or a > "Quick Entry" (mouse-click) type UI; drag-and-drop would obviously be a > bonus, but is hardly necessary. > > in a “perfect” world, the students wouldn’t even see the .ly code. > I'm understanding this use case wants... * No-code GUI music entry * Runs in a web browser * Allows collaborative editing Many of the Git websites would have ways to collaboratively edit LilyPond code, without needing to know very much about Git. The Denemo project has lots of efforts for entering music without much LilyPond coding. LilyBin and Hacklily are the leaders for in-browser LilyPond work. Combining all of this, though... I'm having trouble imagining what "collaborative editing" would look like in a "No-code GUI." Something like PDF commenting? Has anything like that ever been seen in the LilyPond ecosystem? Paolo Prete's Spontini-Editor might be the closest thing I can remember. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: ! Please answer interesting functionality question for PhD Diss
On 10/23/2020 12:21 PM, Michael Blankenship wrote: I just don’t know what LilyPond is capable of, and while I’m willing to put in the work for a solution, I’m on a deadline and don’t have time to learn a whole new workflow only to discover that it doesn’t work. The first thing I'm reminded of here is Paul Morris' Clairnote project. <https://clairnote.org/software/> That's an example of someone teaching LilyPond to produce forms of notation that are very different from the default output. I do not have the skills needed for helping with your project. But seeing as other people have had LilyPond making Riemannian Tonnetz graphs and such, I'd be shocked if there was no way to make your idea happen. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Some wild considerations and a question
On 10/20/2020 12:26 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Jonas Hahnfeld writes: For my own reading pleasure, do you have links where this was discussed? That would not be in the GUB repo but in GNU's internal discussion lists. There were a few sort-of discussions/attempts on the lilypond-devel list to clear things up without conclusive results. This thread is the one I best remember: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-03/msg00023.html> Folks in the Apple world said there was a stand-alone OSX 10.4 SDK that would not have had hardware restrictions. Hopefully that's the one LilyPond has been using. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: linux install problem virtualbox
On 10/16/2020 3:15 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: I was also trying Hyper-V and WSL before virtualbox...They were disabled again but who knows? Hmm, in my experience multiple software cannot simultaneously use the hardware virtualization features like Intel VT-d or whatever. If the most recent software used disabled all the others, that is what I would expect to see. Unless I just didn't know how to ask properly when I was trying it, of course. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: [OLL} Discourse forum
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:32 AM Gilles Sadowski wrote: > However, average users might want to be informed when > some significant improvement has been made such that there is > now a new recommended/easy way for accomplishing certain > tasks. Other LilyPond-related projects such as Frescobaldi maintain separate development discussions, while still posting significant announcements to lilypond-user. That approach seems well-accepted so far. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: font construction
On 10/15/2020 12:13 PM, Shane Brandes wrote: Is there any documentation floating around on how fonts for LilyPond are actually built? Have you seen Simon Tatham's Gonville font? I cannot comment on whether its construction is the best starting point or not for your project, though. <https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Downloading documentation?
On 10/14/2020 4:35 PM, Damien Garwood wrote: I would like to be able to access all the manuals locally if possible. How would I go about downloading the HTML versions? The doc tarball should contain the entire website structure for the HTML documentation. <https://lilypond.org/all.html> <https://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/documentation/lilypond-2.20.0-1.documentation.tar.bz2> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Future of openLilyLib
On 10/6/2020 11:23 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: \reshape ? Dude… nice work. =) Made me smile, too. I think that's approaching the perfect amount of self-reference humor, without crossing the line to guaranteed obscurity for newcomers. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Free time
On 10/2/2020 4:59 PM, Gonsolo wrote: Unfortunately it is only a part of the problem If you can send an image of the result you want, there's a good chance someone on the list could find a way to code it. Here's an example of what's possible, portions of the C. Cardew "Treatise" score as coded by Pierre Perol-Schneider: <http://lilybin.com/u8vxbi/1> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: fix for Windows Exited with return code -1073741819 ?
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 4:30 AM damianlegassick wrote: > I know that this has come up a few times and I'm aware that it's a Windows 32 > bit memory issue > but does anyone actually have a fix? I have to work on a windows machine atm. This might not rise to the level of a "fix." But with the recent Windows 10 versions there's an option to use Windows Subsystem for Linux for running the 64-bit Linux version of LilyPond. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Future of openLilyLib (to Gilles and David
On 9/22/2020 10:50 AM, Karsten Reincke wrote: 2.B) But if yes, 'my' HelloWorld 'song' depends on the program ly- and/or scm files under /usr/share/lilypond/2.20.0/. They are licensed under the GPLv3. Thus, we have to deal with copyleft effect in any sense because a GPL v3 licensed code is integrated into my code and my code does not work without that code. Karsten, to further clarify your position, please comment on this variation of the given HelloWorld example: % BEGIN LILYPOND \version "2.20.0" \include "english.ly" \score { cf'4 } % END LILYPOND Are you expecting that this HelloWorld example is now covered by GPLv3 due to its dependence on the \include "english.ly" statement? Now, I am no expert on the questions involved here. But there are a number of choices available for commercial, proprietary, closed-source software that produces sheet music like LilyPond does. You seem concerned that LilyPond or related projects could assert intellectual property rights against work produced with them. Do have similar concerns about proprietary, closed-source software doing the same if you used it? How about if a project needs third-party plug-in products for such software? Again, I have no expertise, just trying to further understand your position. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: The grace issue
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 11:46 AM Andrew Bernard wrote: > May I ask with the most polite respect is there any chance that this > grace note issue will ever get resolved? Perhaps it's simply not > possible in lilypond for technical reasons? What makes this a > difficult problem? I am reminded of a thread from February 2020... <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-02/msg00151.html> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Drone over a cadenza
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:21 AM John Burt wrote: > While the second tenor part is singing a cadenza, the first tenor and the > baritone parts are holding a note as long as the cadenza. I know how to make > a rest as long as a cadenza -- #(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza) but I don't know > how to do this with a note. Is there a way? I am reminded of this regression test that seems similar. <https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/blob/master/input/regression/duration-multiplier-scheme.ly> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Better support for Bravura in LilyPond
Good going! I have the Bravura font working on Windows 10 Pro 1909 and Lilypond 2.21.1. But in the project I tried, I asked for Aiken head notes and didn't get them. <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.21/Documentation/notation/note-heads#shape-note-heads> Small example attached. Does anyone know if Bravura has Aiken head notes? Or what font viewer could be used to check, since the Windows one only shows text and not music symbols. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA \version "2.21.1" \paper{ #(define fonts (set-global-fonts #:music "BMusicFont" #:brace "profondo" #:roman "Academico" )) } \include "bmusicdefinitions.ily" \header{ title = "Aiken Bravura Test" composer = "me" poet = "also me" } \score { { \aikenHeads c'4 d' e' f' | g'2 a' | b'1 | c''1 } \layout { \context { \Score \bravuraOn } } }
Re: How to submit improved LSR entry?
On 6/20/2020 7:37 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: I'd say we need more people for LSR-work. Furthermore, some time ago I started to upgrade LSR to 2.20, but had to stop this work as well. No idea, when I'm able to continue... Can the work be described in step-by-step instructions? If so, it could be a good fit for crowd-sourcing. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: command request
On 6/11/2020 12:53 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: What is the command that resets the next pitch to be on the first beat of a measure? How about \partial ? <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/advanced-rhythmic-commands.en.html> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Mac OS X Catalina 64-bit compile ?
On 5/29/2020 1:39 PM, Wim van Dommelen wrote: most of the links are broken, trying to do a straightforward download is almost impossible Sorry, I should have checked further. Do the links on this other page work for you? <https://dl.bintray.com/marnen/lilypond-darwin-64/> -- Karlin High Missouri, USA