Re: suggestion about web page examples and essay
Hi Graham, I'll start that in september, so let's speak about the subject after the GDP things. Ciao Libero On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:55:10 +0200 Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course I'm not just trowing a stone here and hiding my hand here (italian motto... :-), that means that I'm ready to take the time and effort to work on the points I suggested (clearly with the help of others), if there's an interest! Time and effort are the big issues. If you're willing to undertake this by yourself, I'll supervise you and help with some technical details. We'll need to change a few things in the way we build lilypond, but I think it would be worth it. However, I would like a firm committment from you (and any other interested users) that you'd handle all the lilypond code. Since you've just started unfretted-strings.itely, I'd prefer to wait until you've finished that task first -- it shouldn't take too long. (sorry for the delay; this email got hidden in an unused email folder) Cheers, - Graham -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: metronome mark position
Ok, fine. libero On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: staff.itely (the file containing metronome mark docs) is still unfinished. Please wait a few weeks; if the first public draft does not contain good docs about this, please speak up again. Cheers, - Graham On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:13:28 +0200 Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Neil, thanks for your answer, I'm just wondering if the manual section about metronome marks should be changed in order to inform that ATM one should use a mixture of \mark \markup and \tempo, depending on the context: in my memory when someone (myself and other people I saw) starts a notation software, after few notes and a a dynamic, next thing to add is a tempo mark, to complete the typical Hello, world! score. And for a new user it could take very much to understand that one should use \mark \markup (not talking about how to use it), as workaround. It is not obvious at all. Not talking about the fact that a wrong positioned first tempo mark in a piece creates immediately a strange feeling to a musician, even if he/she's not aware of the right rule about the position of those marks. Libero On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Libero, 2008/7/4 Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have two questions: Is there a way to have the \tempo or a custom \mark \markup that behaves correctly according to those three different situations? I don't think so; unless you use both as required by each individual situation, you'll have to override the positioning to fix the alignment. Following Reinhold's improvements to the \tempo command (i.e., allowing text markup), there was a discussion about metronome alignment (or lack of, when next to a time signature). As I understand it from the source, metronome marks are only positioned with reference to note columns; without recoding, there doesn't seem to be any way of making them acknowledge breakable objects like time and key signatures. In the example, there are two commented lines that should (in my understanding), move the metronomemark on the left, but I only get to have it down. Is there a bug, or am I doing something wrong? If you try the same override on a ReheasalMark object, you'll see that it too ignores this; in the case of some outside staff objects which are aligned #UP or #DOWN, the side axis seems to be hard-coded (or is ignored completely: in the case of RehearsalMark, there is no default setting for 'side-axis), though I couldn't say whether this is a bug or not. BTW, if you want the rehearsal mark aligned with the left edge of the time signature, you'll need to override the TimeSignature object's 'break-align-anchor-alignment property: \override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-align-anchor-alignment = #LEFT Regards, Neil -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: metronome mark position
Hi Neil, thanks for your answer, I'm just wondering if the manual section about metronome marks should be changed in order to inform that ATM one should use a mixture of \mark \markup and \tempo, depending on the context: in my memory when someone (myself and other people I saw) starts a notation software, after few notes and a a dynamic, next thing to add is a tempo mark, to complete the typical Hello, world! score. And for a new user it could take very much to understand that one should use \mark \markup (not talking about how to use it), as workaround. It is not obvious at all. Not talking about the fact that a wrong positioned first tempo mark in a piece creates immediately a strange feeling to a musician, even if he/she's not aware of the right rule about the position of those marks. Libero On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Libero, 2008/7/4 Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have two questions: Is there a way to have the \tempo or a custom \mark \markup that behaves correctly according to those three different situations? I don't think so; unless you use both as required by each individual situation, you'll have to override the positioning to fix the alignment. Following Reinhold's improvements to the \tempo command (i.e., allowing text markup), there was a discussion about metronome alignment (or lack of, when next to a time signature). As I understand it from the source, metronome marks are only positioned with reference to note columns; without recoding, there doesn't seem to be any way of making them acknowledge breakable objects like time and key signatures. In the example, there are two commented lines that should (in my understanding), move the metronomemark on the left, but I only get to have it down. Is there a bug, or am I doing something wrong? If you try the same override on a ReheasalMark object, you'll see that it too ignores this; in the case of some outside staff objects which are aligned #UP or #DOWN, the side axis seems to be hard-coded (or is ignored completely: in the case of RehearsalMark, there is no default setting for 'side-axis), though I couldn't say whether this is a bug or not. BTW, if you want the rehearsal mark aligned with the left edge of the time signature, you'll need to override the TimeSignature object's 'break-align-anchor-alignment property: \override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-align-anchor-alignment = #LEFT Regards, Neil -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
metronome mark position
Hi,
I'm trying to play a bit with the metronome mark and the \mark \markup
commands in order to have a unified way to set the tempo in my scores,
but I'm a bit lost:
the three rules I know for that are:
1) if there's a time signature, the tempo should be left aligned with it,
2) if there's a long key signature, the tempo should be aligned in the
middle of it,
3) if there's no time/key signature, but just a tempo change (as in
più mosso etc), the tempo should be aligned with the leftmost note
of the bar.
In the following snippet 1) and 2) seems to be possible only using
\mark \markup, while 3) is the default behavior of \tempo.
However, in 1) the A of Allegro is aligned with the center of the
time signature, not left-aligned.
I have two questions:
Is there a way to have the \tempo or a custom \mark \markup that
behaves correctly according to those three different situations?
In the example, there are two commented lines that should (in my
understanding), move the metronomemark on the left, but I only get to
have it down. Is there a bug, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks a lot.
Ciao
Libero
%%%Example about tempo markings
\version 2.11.50
\relative c''{
\time 4/4
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(time-signature)
\key c \major
\mark \markup{Allegro }
c c c c
\key cis \major
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(key-signature)
\mark \markup{Andante }
bis bis bis bis
%\override Score.MetronomeMark #'side-axis = #X
%\override Score.MetronomeMark #'direction = #-1
\tempo Più mosso c c c c
}
\layout{ ragged-right = ##t }
%%% end of example
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Re: metronome mark position
1) if there's a time signature, the tempo should be left aligned with it, However, in 1) the A of Allegro is aligned with the center of the time signature, not left-aligned. Durand edition, seems the only one that I know that center-align with the time signature. However, they do center align with key signature starting from 5 sharps of 5 flats (ie. Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune 5 bars after number 6 of the score Meme mouvt et très soutenu). In case of a mark letter and a tempo indication in the same bar (with many flats/sharps) and at the beginning of a page, they align the mark letter with the key signature and the tempo mark between the key signature and the first note. -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
suggestion about web page examples and essay
Hi all, following a recent discussion on the Reaper mailing list (in which I had to defend Lilypond from a quite heavy critic due to a misunderstanding of what Lily is and what Lily can do, but that's fine and absolutely not the point of this email), I checked the example page of the Lily's website and found some weak points in it IMO. There are some broken links (png file linked incorrectly to the .mid files), but, besides that, here is my suggestion about how to make it better: Divide the examples in three groups, each one clearly stating and showing Lily's power: a) Lilypond automatic output, un-tweaked (to show Lily's great automatic layout features, that was/is the main goal to reach) b) A simple set of (even heavily, if necessary) tweaked scores to show the best that Lily can do (those could be the same scores of point a), or others. Let's call it Ready to be printed. c) Super-cool features (graphics, polymetric, proportional, early music, etc.), with a finished page of a score (finished here means, ready to print as in b). Here's my suggested list for points a) and b): - solo music (ex, Bach cello suite) - song (1 staff with melody, lyrics and chords) (Gershwin? Porter? ) - Late classic/Romantic piano example, with fingerings etc. (Beethoven?/Chopin etude?) - Full orchestral score, with one part extracted (and thus showing the POV - Power Of Variables :-). (first version of Stravinski Petrouchka?). (all those with midi files) Suggestion for point c) - Monteverdi's madrigal, - Score à la Ferneyhough - Score à la Nancarrow/Ligeti - Graphic score with a lot of Postscript stuff - Book (like L'art de toucher le clavecin) The point is to keep the same honesty towards the user (check my comment about Sibelius contemporary notation features, based on Sibelius 2, don't know nowadays...), to show that with few tweaks the result is top class, and, why not, to be more appealing to new users (if they come from Sibelius / Finale etc). Side-note, but connected with Lily, somehow: there's more and more interest about audio in Linux, recently thanks to Reaper/wine (check the forum and some Dave Phillips articles about), with a lot of Windows-Mac users(without any background about open source) charmed by Reaper's development/price attitude (very similar to open source attitude, but what Reaper is creating is big and complex - in the professional DAW world - , so please no open vs closed war, it's not my point). In few days both MuseScore and Denemo have been tested by many people (with not such a positive feedback, to be honest, due to crash and/or missing of some basic functionalities), but still something is really going on there! --- I have some small critics towards the essay, just because it's referring to Finale 2003 (BTW the last version I used, then I switched for a year and half to Sibelius and then completely to Lilypond). I don't know about newer versions of Finale, but referring to such a old version is not really useful anymore, and, without offending anybody (I have such a high respect towards Lilypond, its authors and its community), I think that nowadays Lilypond it's just so good and completely different by itself, that doesn't need this kind of comparison. I mean, Lily is far from the others on many many features (and weak on others). Anyway, I think that the essay should be at least changed in those parts that are referring to old Finale. Of course I'm not just trowing a stone here and hiding my hand here (italian motto... :-), that means that I'm ready to take the time and effort to work on the points I suggested (clearly with the help of others), if there's an interest! What do you think? (here's the reaper discussion thread): http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=22675 Ciao Libero -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
Hi Carl,
even if I didn't try your example, I understand why it will work!
Thanks a lot for your help.
I have another question, though: should I make an example to add to
the LSR? Because both the groupstaff and pianostaff issues are somehow
part of a more real-life example of a polymetric score.
Regards,
Libero
From: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Libero Mureddu libero.mureddu at gmail.com writes:
Hi Carl and list,
I just realized that for some (to me) strange reason, with your
solution (using \override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f instead
of \remove Span_bar_engraver), the grand piano staff doesn't have
anymore the barline across its two staves.
Do you have any idea about this behavior and how to get back the
pianostaff barline?
Thanks,
Libero
You need to create the PianoStaff as an InnerStaffGroup, so it can have its
own StaffBar stencil.
%% Start of code: Polymetric notation with Group bars on and off.
\version 2.11.48
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
% \remove Span_bar_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c'
\new StaffGroup
\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
\new Staff
{ \time 3/4
d c c |
c c c |
d c c |
c c c |
c8
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
c4 c |
c c |
c c |
\revert StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil
c4 c |
\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
c c |
c c |
\revert StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil
c8
%\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
}
\new Staff {
\time 3/8
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c8
}
\new InnerStaffGroup
\override InnerStaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = #ly:span-bar::print
\set InnerStaffGroup.systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBrace
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c |
c2. |
c |
c8}
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c2. |
c2. |
c2. |
c8}
%% End of code
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Re: StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:18:27 + (UTC)
From: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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If you remove the StaffBar engraver, then you can never get Staff Bars
engraved.
So instead, you want to \override the StaffBar #'stencil to ##f:
\override StaffGroup.StaffBar #'stencil = ##f.
This prevents printing of staff bars.
When you want to print staff bars, just revert the override:
\revert StaffGroup.StaffBar #'stencil
Thanks a lot for your help, this is exactly what I was looking for.
I've tested your code, and it works, except for the fact that the last
staff is not at the same time as the rest.
Sorry, but I don't understand your answer here, because in my example
there was no rest at all.
However, the solution you posted had a small mistake (a missing \new
Staff), so I send here the corrected version for the mail archive.
Thanks for your help!
Ciao
Libero
%% Start of code: Polymetric notation with Group bars on and off.
\version 2.11.48
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
% \remove Span_bar_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c'
\new StaffGroup
\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
\new Staff
{ \time 3/4
d c c |
c c c |
d c c |
c c c |
c8
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
c4 c |
c c |
c c |
\revert StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil
c4 c |
\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
c c |
c c |
\revert StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil
c8
%\override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'stencil = ##f
}
\new Staff {
\time 3/8
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c8
}
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c |
c2. |
c |
c8}
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c2. |
c2. |
c2. |
c8}
%% End of code
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Re: StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
Hi, now I got the rest issue :-) Maybe it was related with the \new Staff correction that I mentioned in the previous email. ciao Libero ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
StaffGroup bar line problem in polymetric notation
Hi all,
I'm working, once again, on a polymetric score and I have the following problem:
starting from the example from the 1.2.3.4 section of the doc, Staves
with different time signatures, unequal bar lengths,
I tried to group all the staves in a StaffGroup, and, reasonably, Lily
added a Group barline.
Then, I added a StaffGroup context in which I removed the Span_bar_engraver.
Until here everything is fine :-)
However, as one can see in the attached file, all voices meet each
other at a certain point, and before that note I'd like to have (for
sake of clarity) a Group bar crossing all staves.
Conceptually I guess that probably I should then remove the \remove
Span_bar_engraver when I need it again, but I'm a bit confused about
how to do that, or if there are better solutions.
Thanks a lot,
Libero
%%% Lilypond example
\version 2.11.49
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\remove Span_bar_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c'
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
c4 c c |
c c c |
c8
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
c4 c |
c c |
c c |
c8
}
\new Staff {
\time 3/8
c4. |
c8 c c |
c4. |
c8 c c |
c8
}
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c |
c8}
\new Staff { \time 6/8
c2. |
c2. |
c8}
%%% end of example
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Re: LSR account problem
Ciao Seba, can you find my old account? If you can't, I'll make a new one. ciao libero On Feb 9, 2008 10:49 PM, Sebastiano Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 9, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/2/9, Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I forgot my username and password for LSR, is there a way to get those infos or should I open a new one? Honestly, you'd better open a new one; it's gonna be faster and simpler :) ... unless Sebastiano can do anything. Seba? I could in general. Presently there is some problem in ssh-ing on my machine... until Monday. Ciao, seba -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: recorder fingering chart
Ah, of course, is just plus, not scripts.plus, thanks for pointing this!
ciao
libero
On Feb 10, 2008 10:15 PM, Gilles THIBAULT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Tim, it works well,
however, if I try to put those signs as markup, the plus doesn't work.
Bug or I'm doing something wrong?
\version 2.11.38
\include english.ly
\score
{\relative c'
{
g^\markup{\musicglyph #scripts.flageolet}
g^\markup{\musicglyph #scripts.plus}
}
}
scripts.plus doesn't seem to exist.
You'll see all available scripts names in the manual at Appendix B:
Notation manual tables- The Feta font
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LSR account problem
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Re: recorder fingering chart
Thanks Tim, it works well,
however, if I try to put those signs as markup, the plus doesn't work.
Bug or I'm doing something wrong?
Libero
Example follows:
\version 2.11.38
\include english.ly
\score
{\relative c'
{
g^\markup{\musicglyph #scripts.flageolet}
g^\markup{\musicglyph #scripts.plus}
}
}
Would this work for you?
\version 2.11.38
\include english.ly
\score
{\relative c'
{
c-+ d-+ e-\flageolet f-\flageolet
}
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Re: recorder fingering chart
Hi Tim and list,
actually I just discovered that there are already articulation signs
for closed and open.
Here is an example with half positions in between.
However, the articulations are closer to the staff than the markups.
Is there a way to make them at the same distance from the staff?
I tried different solutions without success.
Best regards,
Libero
\version 2.11.38
\include english.ly
centermarkup = {
\once \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
\once \override TextScript #'X-offset =#(ly:make-simple-closure
`(,+
,(ly:make-simple-closure (list
ly:self-alignment-interface::centered-on-x-parent))
,(ly:make-simple-closure (list
ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
}
\score
{\relative c'
{
g\open
\once \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #-1.0 \centermarkup
g^\markup{\combine \musicglyph #scripts.open \musicglyph
#scripts.tenuto}
\centermarkup g^\markup{\combine \musicglyph #scripts.open
\musicglyph #scripts.stopped}
g\stopped
}
}
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Re: recorder fingering chart
Hi Valentin, I will post my snippet. I have, however, other questions regarding recorder notation: 1) is it possible to center a markup over an analysis bracket? I'm manually moving it using \translate within the markup. 2) I don't know how to notate + and o signs commonly used for french horn notation for open and bouché sounds (this would correspond on the recorder notation to open and close window hole), is there a way commonly used by lilyponders? ciao libero Hi Libero, go ahead and post your snippet! Then I'll see if it needs any improvements. Your code is fine; perhaps you may want to post several snippets more simple, e.g. How to obtain slashed fingering numbers, How to write a Recorder fingering chart, etc. It's preferable to make it simple and short, so that each snippet deals with *one* single specific issue. Cheers, Valentin -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
staff name in a temporary ossia staff
Hi all, is there a way to have the staff name printed in a temporarily added ossia staff (ie a staff appearing in the middle of a system). I wasnt able to find any solution searching archives, lsr and docs. thanks and best regards, libero -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: recorder fingering chart
Thanks Mats,
so strange, I tried so many times to use slashed-digit, and I was
always getting some errors... now it works...
I post here the complete example of the chart I'm working on; I want
to post it to lsr, but I'd prefer to get some suggestion from the list
first.
And I have also a question: I'd like to put the footnotes (the
explanations about the notes marked with 1) and 2) below the
example, and keeping the same line-width, however, if I put a \book{}
around the score, and a \markup under the score, I lose somehow the
\paper settings.
Any suggestion?
Thanks a lot,
libero
% range chart for paetzold contrabass recorder
% lilypond -dbackend=eps file.ly (for pdf fragment)
\version 2.11.38
stemoff = { \override Staff.Stem #'transparent = ##t }
centermarkup = {
\once \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
\once \override TextScript #'X-offset =#(ly:make-simple-closure
`(,+
,(ly:make-simple-closure (list
ly:self-alignment-interface::centered-on-x-parent))
,(ly:make-simple-closure (list
ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {\remove Time_signature_engraver }
{
\clef bass
\set Score.timing = ##f
\stemoff f,1*1/4 \glissando
\clef violin
gis'1*1/4
\stemDown a'4^\markup{1)}
\centermarkup
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2
bes'1*1/4_\markup{\override #'(baseline-skip . 1.7) \column
{ \fontsize #-5 \slashed-digit #0 \finger 1 \finger 2 \finger 3
\finger 4
\finger 5 \finger 6 \finger 7} }
b'1*1/4
c''4^\markup{1)}
\centermarkup
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2
cis''1*1/4
deh''1*1/4
\centermarkup
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2
\once \override Staff.HorizontalBracket #'direction = #UP
e''1*1/4_\markup{\override #'(baseline-skip . 1.7) \column
{ \fontsize #-5 \slashed-digit #0 \finger 1 \finger 2 \finger 4
\finger 5} }\startGroup
f''1*1/4^\markup{2)}\stopGroup
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff \consists Horizontal_bracket_engraver
}
}
}
\paper{
indent=0\mm
line-width=110\mm
oddFooterMarkup=##f
oddHeaderMarkup=##f
bookTitleMarkup = ##f
scoreTitleMarkup = ##f
}
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Re: recorder fingering chart
Hi Kieren,
thanks a lot, maybe there are better ways, but this one is quite effective :-)
I slightly modified your example as follows:
ciao
libero
\version 2.11.37
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
testing =
{
c''_\markup {\override #'(baseline-skip . 1.7) \column {\combine
\finger 0 \translate #'(0.17 . -0.17) \rotate
#-30 \small / \finger 1 \finger 2 \finger 3 \finger 4} }
}
\score
{
\testing
}
On Feb 3, 2008 4:50 PM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Libero,
I should use the slashed numbers too in order to indicate half-hole
positions.
Is it possible to use slashed numbers in fingering (without using
\markup)?
Don't know.
can someone show me how to use the slashed-digit inside a markup?
The attached hack might give you the right hint.
[For the record, there's likely a much better way...]
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
\version 2.11.37
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
testing =
{
c''^\markup { \combine 3 \translate #'(0.25 . -0.25) \rotate
#-30 \fontsize #1 / }
}
\score
{
\testing
}
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recorder fingering chart
Hi, I'm writing a chart for recorder fingering, and I'm using the standard lilypond fingering instructions. However, I should use the slashed numbers too in order to indicate half-hole positions. Is it possible to use slashed numbers in fingering (without using \markup)? or can someone show me how to use the slashed-digit inside a markup? I always get some errors. Thanks a lot and regards, libero -- Libero Mureddu http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring
On Nov 27, 2007 8:44 PM, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Libero, wikipedia article call those time sigs as irrational meters: It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has become accepted... Agreed. I think Ferneyhough uses the term only with reluctance; Xenakis refused ... Ok, but it is a metaphor, not a mathematical explanation and many music definitions are metaphoric... that's why Xenakis refused, he was less on the rethorical side -:) (I really respect his music and life... just a little irony). irrationals are the bar lenght whose beats are based on irregular groups (and incomplete... 5/5=1). To me the analogy is quite understandable, even if not correct. I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory anyway) to know if the Medieval invetors of duplum and triplum and perfectus and imperfectus and the like ever touched on the topic ... they'd make a good source to steal from ... Anyway, complex ars subtilior music was written without the notion of measure, and thus even for the most irrationals passages of the time, there was not this problem (the problem to write a special time signature, I mean, to fit all voices in a measure). (A good example is prolation ... which I *think* Ferneyhough borrows from prolatio ... though not sure ... and which makes a great cover term for tuplets and all forms of duration scaling in general.) Well, I dont have here a copy of Henry Cowell's book, maybe there is a better definition there, when he speaks about complex rhythmical subdivisions. Could someone check it? A question: in english language, do you say Irrational rhythm? I'm not asking if this is correct or not, just if it is the common practice. In italy we call them Irregular groups! Xenakis would have correctly argued that in a quintuplet there's nothing irregular, I mean, that the subdivision is in 5 equal parts... Ciao Libero -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://webusers.siba.fi/%7Elimuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring
Hi Trevor wikipedia article call those time sigs as irrational meters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature further investigation showed that Ferneyhough himself calls them irrational, so, probably, this is a quite good definition: http://www.sospeso.com/contents/articles/ferneyhough_p1.html in my experience this notation is quite useful if you have a broken bar that it would be impossible to write differently, even if many players told me that they prefer to see an incomplete bar (even without time signature) with the tuplet sign (or with nested tuplets) because for them the rhythmical relation with previous bars is more direct than with a change of time sig. my 2 cents regards, Libero If anybody has a good name for these meters, I would love to steal. n-ary meters? [...he offered, only half-jokingly...] -- Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417 00350 Helsinki Finland http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/ http://www.myspace.com/liberomureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
Hi,
unfortunately it doesn't work. I put my example in the message, so you
can see if I did something wrong with the whichBar property. (I tried
in the first and in the second staff).
Thanks,
Libero
lily 2.9.17
ibook g4
mac os 10.4.7
%%% SNIPPET %%%
\score {
\set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16)
\new Staff {% first staff
\time 3/4
c c c %\set Score.whichBar = # \bar |
\break
c c c
c c c
} % end staff
\new Staff {% second staff
\time 9/4
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(3 . 4)
\compressMusic #'(3 . 4) {
c c c \set Score.whichBar = # \bar | \break
c c c \bar |
c c c \bar |
c c c
} % end compressMusic
} % end staff
\new Staff {% third staff
\time 6/4
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(3 . 4)
\compressMusic #'(6 . 9) {
c c c \bar |
c c c \bar |
c c c
} % end compressMusic
} % end staff
%end of expressions together
} %end of \score
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
} % end of context Score
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
} % end of context Staff
\context {
\Voice
\remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
} % end of context Voice
} % end of layout
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
Hi,
I tried to go deeper in my problem, trying to understand where it
starts to do not work, and it seems that as soon as I \remove the
Timing_translator from the Score context, I lose the possibility to
break lines. On the other side, I cannot have it in the Score context,
and only remove the Default_bar_line_engraver (and consists it only in
the Staff context)
A kind of solution is to use tuplets and cancel the bracket and
number, and put manually the barlines but this would make impossible
to use tuplets inside each single rhythm (in this solution, a tuplet
would be in fact a nested tuplet, and if I hide them, I cannot see
them!). Also the syntax start to be really obscure.
Hope it can help, somehow.
Thanks and regards,
Libero
%%% SNIPPET %%%
\score {
\set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16)
\new Staff {% first staff
\time 3/4
c c c
c c c \break
c c c
} % end staff
\new Staff {% second staff
\time 9/4
\times 3/4 {c c c c } %\bar |
\times 3/4 {c c c c } %\bar |
\times 3/4 {c c c c } %\bar |
} % end staff
\new Staff {% third staff
\time 3/4
\times 2/3 {c c c } %\bar |
\times 2/3 {c c c } %\bar |
\times 2/3 {c c c }
} % end staff
%end of expression together
} %end of \score
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator % If I \remove it,
I can't get line
break, so it should stay commented.
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver % if I
\remove it, and
\consists in the Staff context, I don't get any bar line.
} % end of context Score
%
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
} % end of context Staff
\context {
\Voice
\remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
} % end of context Voice
} % end of layout
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
On 9/19/06, Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/18/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you're looking for Forbid_line_break_engraver. Try removing it.Hi Han-Wen,thank you very much: removing this property did the job on some examples that I tried. Great!
However, it doesn't work for the following example, that is closer to what I need to type: each staff has a different tempo, here in this example, I just put some simple metric proportions between the staves to give an idea.
I cannot put \break in order to split this sequence (that I'll need when it becomes longer!)Do you have any solution in mind?Best regards,Liberolily 2.9.17ibook g4macos 10.4.7
%%% SNIPPET %%%\version 2.9.17\score { \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) \new Staff { % first staff\time 3/4
c c cc c c \breakc c c } % end staff \new Staff { % second staff\time 9/4\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction
= #'(3 . 4)\compressMusic #'(3 . 4) {c c c \bar | c c c \bar | c c c \bar |c c c
} % end compressMusic} % end staff \new Staff { % third staff\time 6/4\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(3 . 4)\compressMusic #'(6 . 9) {
c c c \bar |c c c \bar |c c c } % end compressMusic} % end staff%end of _expression_ together
} %end of \score\layout { \context { \Score\remove Timing_translator\remove Default_bar_line_engraver } % end of context Score
\context { \Staff \consists Timing_translator \consists Default_bar_line_engraver } % end of context Staff \context {
\Voice \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver } % end of context Voice } % end of layout
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Fwd: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
sorry, forgot to cc to mailing list.libero-- Forwarded message --From: Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sep 19, 2006 12:56 AMSubject: Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythmTo: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/18/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi, I've also found this quite interesting: lily can accept something like this (see below), that is quite amazing compared the amount of tweaks that are necessary to obtain the same in other software (if my memory is good!), but still it cannot make a line break. But what I would like to have is a line break based not necessarely on barlines but on specific moments in time.Is it really good typesetting practice to have a line break in the middle of the duration of a note? To me it seems like a very goodmethod to confuse the poor musicians. ;-)Hi Mats,Well, maybe I should have said that it is a piece for the yamaha disklavier and a pianist, so, I need this to typeset the computer driven part (that is very complex) and I cannot put everything on one line. Since the main goal of LilyPond is to support typesetting of music from 19th century, the current limitation does make sense.Ok, but Lilypond is the software that probably supports more features useful for contemporary music than any other software that I know (except Score and ENP). Why those features are implemented? Sorry, maybe there was a misunderstanding: I don't consider lilypond limitated at all, it's exactly the opposite. And I showed lilypond to many composers and they were all amazed. On the other hand, you don't have to consider modern music to find examples where such practice was used.But there are some cases in which one has to write that way, believe me! Anyway, one should just try to reproduce the examples in the Contemporary notation part of the manual with Sibelius or Finale to understand what I mean. My only question was how to make possible to break a line or a page using those lilypond features. Best regards,Libero In the baroque period, it was fairly common to have dotted notes that crossedbar lines and the dot was then often typeset to the right of thebar line. I can promise you that it's extremely confusing the firsttime you see it, but anyway not so hard to get used to. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
On 9/19/06, Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/19/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Libero Mureddu wrote:
\set Score.proportionalNotationDuration =
#(ly:make-moment 1 16)
\new Staff {% first staff
\time 3/4
c c c
c c c \break
put \bar here.
Unfortunately it doesn't work, forgot to mention before that I've tried
this, (with \bar ) also in the other staves.
regards,
Libero
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
I've also tried the following solution, with tuplets instead of
compressMusic, but \break doesn't work.
Libero
\score {
\set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16)
\new Staff {% first staff
\time 3/4
c c c
c c c \bar | \break
c c c
} % end staff
\new Staff {% second staff
\time 9/4
\times 3/4 {c c c \bar | c } %\bar |
\times 3/4 {c c \bar | c c } %\bar |
\times 3/4 {c \bar | c c c } %\bar |
} % end staff
\new Staff {% third staff
\time 6/4
\times 2/3 {c c c \bar |} %\bar |
\times 2/3 {c c c \bar |} %\bar |
\times 2/3 {c c c \bar |}
} % end staff
%end of expression together
} %end of \score
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
} % end of context Score
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
} % end of context Staff
\context {
\Voice
\remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
} % end of context Voice
} % end of layout
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
On 9/18/06, Thies Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Libero! and I have to split a measure in the middle...Line breaks only work at proper bar lines. (see
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Line-breaking.html#index-g_t_005cbreak-1560)In your example the third 4:5 in the second staff overlaps the invisible bar.
Hi Thies,you are right, but if you take from my example only the voice with the quintuplet (see below), you can see that I can actually split the measure. But this nice feature is not so useful, if you cannot use it inside a polyphonic music. Of course it's clear to me why the constraint cannot be satisfied, in fact I'd like to put the line break in the middle of the duration of a note, that is, in fact, the common situation if you start to have complex music.
Maybe a sponsored feature?Libero%%% SNIPPET FOLLOWS %%%\version 2.8.6 \score { % \new Staff { % \time 4/4
% a4 a4 a4 a4 % } \new Staff { \times 4/5 { a4 a4 \bar \break a4 a4 a4 } }
}
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
Hi,I've also found this quite interesting: lily can accept something like this (see below), that is quite amazing compared the amount of tweaks that are necessary to obtain the same in other software (if my memory is good!), but still it cannot make a line break.
But what I would like to have is a line break based not necessarely on barlines but on specific moments in time.Regards,Liberoibook g4 mac os 10.4.7lily 2.9.17%%% SNIPPET %%%
\version 2.9.17 \score { \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) \new Staff {\time 4/4 a4 a4 a4 a4 \break
a4 a4 a4 a4 } \new Staff { c4 c4 c4 \times 2/3 { a4 a4 a4 } c4 c4 c4 }
}\layout {ragged-right = ##t }
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Re: problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
On 9/18/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're looking for Forbid_line_break_engraver. Try removing it.Thanks, I'll try with it.Libero --Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwenLilyPond Software Design-- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
problem with line breaking with polyrhythm
Hi list,I'm having problems trying to write scores for some pieces with polyrhythm:lilypond says that:warning: can't find line breaking that satisfies constraintsI put here a minimal example that shows anyway the problem, my real situation is on a much bigger scale, that's why I need to force in that way the notation, and I have to split a measure in the middle.
In many examples in the documentation I've found tuplets splitted in the middle, but when it comes a polyphonic situation (the other voice doing something different), the same warning appears.Any suggestion or workaround?
Best regards,Libero%%% SNIPPET FOLLOWS %%%\version 2.8.6 \score { \new Staff {\time 4/4 a4 a4 \bar \break a4 a4
} \new Staff { \times 4/5 { a4 a4 a4 a4 a4 } } }
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how to change default pdf viewer on mac
Hi, I started to use Texniscope instead of preview.app, mainly because it refreshes automatically the pdf files, so I don't have to close and open again the file to see the changes. Is it possible to set texniscope as default pdf viewer within lilypond, instead of Preview? Thank and regards, Libero Mureddu ibook g4 mac os 10.4.4 lilypond 2.7.37 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: metric modulations in lilypond
On 12/5/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you're talking about the tempo markings here ? It should be doable in markup: * use \note for the notes * use \arrow-head and \line for the arrows. Thanks for the answer, but I don't know how to put the sign of a tuplet in the first part of the metric modulation: if you look the first tempo change in the example, you can see, above the the 8th note, a small half-bracket, with a 3 on top of it. I'm interested in producing this notation. Libero Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond emacs-mode
Hi, I found a solution, even if the command patch reports a problem: I just manually changed the lines in the lilypond-mode.el file with those of the patch file, and now it works. Thank you, Libero Mureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
metric modulations in lilypond
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Re: lilypond emacs-mode
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Re: lilypond emacs-mode
On 12/2/05, Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a terminal, change to the directory where the file lilypond-mode.el is, put the patch file there, and type the command: patch -uN lilypond-mode.patch Thanks, I've tried, I gave to the patch file the name lilypond-mode.patch and followed your insctructions, but I get an error message. Here it is: libero$ patch -uN lilypond-mode.patch patching file lilypond-mode.el patch: malformed patch at line 11: .ly Can you help me in solving this? Thanks Libero Mureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
What is slow? typing, performing operation like run lily, etc. Because also on my computer is quite slow in launching and opening the windows, but not impossible to use, I thought was because of Java. That's why I prefer to use emacs, I never felt very confortable with jedit on my mac, because of that slowness. BTW, there is also a version of emacs that run natively on macosx without x11, something called like carbon emacs, I'll try the next days and I'll tell you how it works. libero Il giorno 01/mar/05, alle 19:53, Chris Sawer ha scritto: For some reason, jedit's really slow on my Mac (1GHz iBook G4, 512Mb RAM, OS X 10.3.8). Even with the syntax completion features turned off, lily4jedit is not really useable. Does anyone else have this? Any ideas? I've tried increasing the amount of memory given to the Java interpreter, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference... Chris On 1 Mar 2005, at 09:58, Mats Bengtsson wrote: And my idea was that a copy of jedit with lilypond preinstalled might be a good candidate to include in this environment. :-) /Mats Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Pretty basic really. If you figure out a way to get the point and click thing working with TexShop I would appreciate hearing about it. I'm not an expert, but I don't think it is possible because point and click works with the .dvi file, but I couldn't find any dvi reader that works natively on mac os x, except macdvi or macdvix , but they aren't free. I don't know if Jdvi (the dvi viewer inside jedit) can work as a standalone application. Personally, I like xdvi (never had problem with font, fast etc.) on X11 libero Walter Hofmeister ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
e the music. 8) How to get help Help in Lilypond is provided by the lilypond-user mailing list. Before to send an e-mail, try to find an answer looking inside the mailing-list-archive, maybe another user had the same problem Search the Lilypond and the Fink documentations Search with Google If nothing helped you, send an e-mail to the lilypond-user mailing list! In the message, please remember to put which machine you are using, wich is your operative system, and wich version of Lilypond you are using. To check the version, type in the terminal: "lilypond -v" and press enter. Home Download MacOS X Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Il giorno 28/feb/05, alle 13:17, Mats Bengtsson ha scritto: Take a look at the text editor jedit, which has very good support for LilyPond, see http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ Editor-support.html Thanks, but I know and use jedit, my suggestion was about creating an environment that doesn't need any external software, thinking to the the lazy mac user :-) libero /Mats Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi! In my impression lilypond.app should be like MacCsound (www.csounds.com/matt/MacCsound), Csound is a text environment for electronic music, it runs on a command line, but the version for mac provides a very simple text editor ready for syntax, correction of mistakes and some GUI elements (that lily doesn't need), and the binary is catched inside the app package. So, my suggestion is: why don't give a package that contains a VERY simple and light (but useful for lily) text editor and a series of button for the main operations (run lily, start pdf viewer, midi etc). I'm thinking to avoid the problem of downloading a text editor, setting it to lily mode, to be full of instruction a bit cryptical (for the musician). I've finished a html version of the installation instruction for mac x with the corrections that some users nicely sent to me. It is based on the macos page on the lily website Let me know if is it ok. Ciao Libero -- -- Home http://lilypond.org/web/index.html Introduction http://lilypond.org/web/switch About http://lilypond.org/web/about [Download] http://lilypond.org/web/download Documentation http://lilypond.org/web/documentation.html Development http://lilypond.org/web/devel [MacOS X] http://lilypond.org/web/download/macos.html Windows http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html First use http://lilypond.org/web/download/getting-started.html User help http://lilypond.org/web/download/using.html -- -- LilyPond on MacOS X Requirements: * Download and install X11, Apple XCode and X11SDK * Download and install Fink * If necessary, enable unstable tree * Be connected to internet * Know your administrator password 1) Install X11 Install X11 from Panther's third cd or downloading from Apple website: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/download/ You will need an Apple ID, see next section. 2) Install Apple XCode * Go to http://connect.apple.com * Follow the instructions to get a free online membership to Apple Developer Connection * Download the Xcode Tools 1.5 - CD Image * Install Xcode and the X11SDK.pkg 3) Install Fink * From http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php download the Binary Installer. Briefly, Fink is a software that allows you to easily install software originally developed on linux environment, to Mac OS X; this software is already modifyied (ported) in order to run on Macintosh. Fink will install itself and all the software in a new folder alled swIf you want to move the /sw folder to another position, check: http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/how.html If you don't know nothing about linux, terminal etc, two goods starting point are http://www.gnu.org, to understand why lilypond is a free software and what this means, and http://www.osxfaq.com/Tutorials/LearningCenter/index.ws, to understand how to use the terminal. 4) Fink or FinkCommander FinkCommander is provided together with Fink, and it is a graphic interface to use Fink. After you have installed Fink, remember to give, from the terminal, the following commands: fink selfupdate and fink update-all or with FinkCommander, menu Source - selfupdate-rsync and menu Source - Update-all 5) Stable-Unstable tree To enable unstable tree and use the developers version, with a text editor edit /sw/etc/fink.conf and add unstable/crypto unstable/main to the Trees line. You need to open it with administrator privileges. Ex sudo pico /sw/etc/fink.conf From FinkCommander's preferences - Fink, you can enable unstable and crypto packages. 6) Install Lilypond * From the terminal, type fink install lilypond or fink install lilypond-unstable if you want to use developer version. Fink will install also libraries and other software required. If you need to continue to work it is better that you give the following command: nice fink install lilypond, the compilation will be done at a lower priority than any other operation. After the download, starts the compilation stage: at the first installation on lilypond it can takes quite long time it depends on the machine. It can be one hour or more. At the end of this stage a message within the terminal will inform you that lilypond has been succesfully installed. 7) First test * Open TextEdit * Check uf the new file
Re: lilypond install mac os x
Il giorno 21/feb/05, alle 18:45, Han-Wen Nienhuys ha scritto: Could you install it as HTML files on a website somewhere, so we can make it show up in our browser? No, I'm trying to find some free web space somewhere but I cannot make it. Hope next days... or there is another possibility? libero -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 limureddATsibaDOTfi Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tutorial install mac os x
Il giorno 21/feb/05, alle 05:47, Chuck Boody ha scritto: There are some grammar errors and I have a couple of other suggestions. Would you like me to re-write your file and mail my changes to you??? yes, of course, it would be great! libero Chuck Boody On Feb 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi! I've just finished a shorter version about how to install lily on mac os x I have also some screenshots, but they are too big to send them on the mailing list. Let me know if is good. I'm finishing the longer version, for newbies. Libero lilypond-install-macosx-short.txt Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tutorial install mac os x
Hi!
I've just finished a shorter version about how to install lily on mac
os x
I have also some screenshots, but they are too big to send them on the
mailing list.
Let me know if is good.
I'm finishing the longer version, for newbies.
Libero
--- HOW TO INSTALL LILYPOND ON MAC OS X ---
--- Requirements:
a) Download and install X11, Apple XCode and X11SDK
b) Download and install fink
c) If necessary, enable unstable tree
d) Be connected to internet
e) You have to know your administrator password
1) INSTALL X11
1) Install X11 from Panther's third cd or downloading
from Apple website http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/download/
You will need an Apple ID, see next section.
2) INSTALL APPLE'S XCODE
a) Go to http://connect.apple.com
b) Follow the instructions to get a free online membership to Apple
Developer Connection.
e) Download the Xcode Tools 1.5 - CD Image
g) install Xcode and the X11SDK.pkg.
3) INSTALL FINK
a) Go to the website: http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php
and download the Binary installer (at this moment, January 2005, the
right version for Panther is called Fink 0.7.1 Binary Installer).
Briefly, Fink is a software that allows you to easily install software
originally developed on linux environment, to Mac OS X; this software is
already modifyied (ported) in order to run on Macintosh.
Fink will install itself and all the software in a new folder alled sw
If you want to move the /sw folder to another position, check:
http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/how.html
If you don't know nothing about linux, terminal etc.,
two goods starting point are http://www.gnu.org, to understand why also
lilypond is free software and what this means, and
http://www.osxfaq.com/Tutorials/LearningCenter/index.ws, to understand how to
use the terminal.
4) FINK OR FINKCOMMANDER
FinkCommander is provided together with Fink, and it is a graphic interface to
use Fink.
After you have installed Fink, remember to give, from the terminal, the
following commands:
fink selfupdate and
fink update-all
or with FinkCommander,
menu Source - selfupdate-rsync and
menu Source - Update-all
-INSTALLING LILYPOND-
5) STABLE-UNSTABLE TREE
To enable unstable tree and use the developers version, with a text editor edit
/sw/etc/fink.conf
and add unstable/crypto unstable/main to the Trees line.
You need to open it with administrator privileges. Ex sudo pico
/sw/etc/fink.conf
From FinkCommander's preferences - Fink, you can enable unstable and crypto
packages.
6) INSTALL LILYPOND
From the terminal, type fink install lilypond or fink install
lilypond-unstable if you
want to use developer version.
Fink will install also libraries and other software required
After the download, starts the compilation stage: at the first
installation on lilypond it can takes quite long time it depends on the
machine. It can be one hour or more. During this step you
can continue to work on your computer, even if it will be a little slower
(at least on my g3 800 laptop).
At the end of this stage a message within the terminal will inform you
that lilypond has been succesfully installed.
7) FIRST TEST
a) Open TextEdit
b) Check uf the new file is called untitled.txt otherwhise go to
Preferences and seslct the text only feature, and uncheck the options
Append .txt extension to plain text files.
In the image, you can see how your preferences should appear.
This is because lilypond need text only file (usually they are with the
extension .txt) but with the .ly extension.
c) Write the following line:
{ c'4 e' g' }
d) save it to the desktop with the name foo.ly
e) Open the terminal and type: lilypond Desktop/foo.ly and press enter
f) After the process is finished, go to your desktop and you will find various
foo files with different extension.
g) Double-click the foo.pdf file and you will see the music.
8) HOW TO GET HELP
Help in Lilypond is provided by the Lilypond-user mailing list.
a) Before to send an e-mail, try to find an answer looking inside the
mailing-list-archive,
maybe another user had the same problem,
b) Search the Lilypond and the Fink documentations,
c) Search with Google,
d) If nothing helped you, send an e-mail to the lilypond-user mailing list! In
the message,
please remember to put wich machine you are using, wich is your operative
system, and
wich version of Lilypond you are using.
To check the version, type in the terminal: lilypond -v and press enter.
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Re: Bootstraping LSR: search for volunteers
Ciao!
I would like to participate.
Fammi sapere!
Libero
Il giorno 12/feb/05, alle 19:46, Sebastiano Vigna ha scritto:
Dear Lilypond users,
the LSR idea (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/) got quite a lot of hurrays and
support from everybody, but no one has still put in a snippet 8^).
I guess people is too busy to stop working and say oh, let's add this
idea.
In any case, I'm looking for volunteers that would like to add the
snippets from the manual. I'm still working at the infrastructure, and
will have to again in the future, so I'd like to use all my available
time for that.
The principle is simple: take a snippet from the manual; check with LSR
that's not already in; take away the part up to \layout{} (that will be
added automatically), and put in the snippet, together with the
fragment
of HTML text that explains the snippet. Check with the preview button,
and that's it.
I'm willing to coordinate people so that we avoid putting several times
the same snippet in, say, by assigning manual sections.
If anybody is interested, and willing to donate a couple of hours of
time, please send me an e-mail.
--
Ciao,
seba
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Re: beginner tutorial to install lily on mac
Il giorno 09/feb/05, alle 17:20, Jan Nieuwenhuizen ha scritto: Libero Mureddu writes: ! I've decided to write a tutorial that explains how to install lilypond on a mac, having in mind someone that doesn't know nothing about linux, free software, use of the terminal ecc. That's great. If it is useful, I can complete it with some screenshot, too. It's just a draft, so it contains many mistakes. It could be very useful if we could use it to replace http://lilypond.org/web/download/macos.html However, in its current form it is way too long. The plain instruction, with screenshot, should not have so many details that it is scary. If those are necessary, they could be on a new html page. Ok, I'll work in the next days to a shorter version to replace the macos page, but I think that a longer and more detailed version (corrected and cleaned and a bit shorter!) could be useful, in another page, because that would make easier to write the editor (vim, emacs etc.) page. Ex. I don't have to repeat how to download emacs with fink, don't have to repeat why editing a configuration file, how to use the terminal etc. What do you think? Libero Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
beginner tutorial to install lily on mac
various question, putting within
parentheses the default option to choose.
Just press the keystroke of the default option and press enter.
After that, automatically the program curl start to download various
packages, not only lilypond, why?
Because lilypond need other software in order to run and also some
libraries, but don't worry about: each software that you will install
within Fink will know about the so-called dependencies (software and
libraries) needed.
After the download, starts the compilation stage: at the first
installation on lilypond it can takes quite long time it depends on the
machine. It can be one hour or more. During this step you
can continue to work on your computer, even if it will be a little slower
(at least on my g3 800 laptop).
At the end of this stage a message within the terminal will inform you
that lilypond has been succesfully installed.
7) FIRST TEST
Lilypond works in that way: you write a text file with the estension .ly
and you run lilypond on it, if everythink is right you will obtain a .pdf
file with your music.
There are various way to work to a lilypond file, but the simplest is:
a) Open TextEdit
b) Check uf the new file is called untitled.txt otherwhise go to
Preferences and seslct the text only feature, and uncheck the options
AGGIUNGI AUTOMATICAMENTE L'ESTENSIONE TXT.
This is because lilypond need text only file (usually they are with the
extension .txt) but with the .ly extension.
c) Write the following line:
{ c'4 e' g' }
d) save it to the desktop with the name foo.ly
e) Open the terminal and type: lilypond Desktop/foo.ly and press enter
f) After the process, jump to the finder and, surprise!, you have various
foo files with different extension.
g) Double-click the foo.pdf file and you will see the music.
That's it!
Another difference between free and commercial software: in commercial software
usually the support is provided by the company that produces the software, in
free
software this support is made by all the people that are using the software.
This is done using the mailing-list system where you can send your question
and the other users will help you.
This way can be so fast and effective that you have just to try!
But, because is a voulonteer effort, remember to follow those simple rules:
a) Before to send an e-mail, try to find an answer looking inside the
mailing-list-archive,
maybe another user had the same problem,
b) Search the Lilypond documentation and the Fink docs,
c) Search with Google,
d) If nothing helped you, send an e-mail to the lilypond-user mailing list! In
the message,
please remember to put wich machine you are using, wich is your operative
system, and
wich version of Lilypond you are using.
To check the version, type in the terminal: lilypond -v and press enter.
-
There are other ways to work with lilypond much more confortable than using
TextEdit,
In another tutorial we will see how to set Emacs, Vim and Jedit with Lilypond.
-
!
Recently, a friend asked me help in order to install Lilypond on his
mac, asking me why fink, why command line, and so on...
I've decided to write a tutorial that explains how to install lilypond
on a mac, having in mind someone that doesn't know nothing about linux,
free software, use of the terminal ecc. Let's say, an user that is
scared about those words and used to double-click an installer in order
to get the application installed and working.
I've decided to write it now, because I still remember when I installed
for the first time lilypond...using fink...the terminal...command line
commands, it was quite scary!
I'm starting to write also the same kind of text for using lilypond
with vim,emacs and jedit on mac.
I hope will be useful!
If it is useful, I can complete it with some screenshot, too.
It's just a draft, so it contains many mistakes.
Regards
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Lilytool small problem
Hello to everybody, there is a small problem in lilytool's Document wizard when one try to add Oboe d'Amore, because it creates a staff oboeD'Amore and this ' before the word Amore, is messing up parsing, giving: /Volumes/Documenti/Users/libero/Music/MUSICA/Lilypond/ooo.ly:27:12: warning: Junking event: `LyricEvent': \staffOboe D'Amore of course is really easy to cancel the problem changing it to oboedamore. (also in the \score). Thanks to Bertalan, now jdvi is working on mac os x, the only problem for me is how to start jdvi with a different frame size, to see landscape scores. Is it not possible to call jdvi from a command line, specifying the size (this is an option that I think jdvi supports)? Thanks Libero Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808415 Mob. +358-41-7702668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fixed Measure Widths
Hi!
I think that the problem of mainstream jazz notation cannot be resolved
simply answering that it's bad tipography: is simply a kind of notation
that needs some different layout according to a precise musical
practice: if one has to play in a gig lots of compositions that are
based on 8+8, 4+4 or 16+16 melodic/harmonic structures, and play them
immediatly, maybe only looking at the chord changes, this specific
layout is really useful, based on the music.
In orchestral music, to have good page turns in parts is better than
have a perfect layout; it is bad typography or is a different
typography?
I think that jazz scores can take advantage from the particular
elegance that lilypond provides, fonts and spacing in lily are very
nice, as everybody knows here ;-)
In lilypond website is written that
...In general, this is a common characteristic of typography. Layout
should be pretty, not only for its own sake, but especially because it
helps the reader in his task. For performance material like sheet
music, this is doubly important: musicians have a limited amount of
attention. The less attention they need for reading, the more they can
focus on playing itself. In other words, better typography translates
to better performances...
That's a perfect explanation of what I tried to say before! (and I
don't like at all the way how real books are written... but this way is
useful to the players, and is now a tradition, so, why don't provide
this feature that, for me, is not at all against lilypond quality?)
By the way, jazz tunes written with Finale are not particulary nice...
Best regards and sorry for this long mail
Libero Mureddu
Il giorno 12/set/04, alle 20:38, Graham Percival ha scritto:
On 10-Sep-04, at 1:36 PM, Matthew Schulkind wrote:
Is there a way to specify a fixed measure width throughout a piece, or
more prefereably have all the measures on a line be the same width?
Many fake/real books are written out this way, and I would like to be
able to duplicate this.
As Han said, this isn't a good idea. But if you really want to, use
invisible 32nd notes in each bar (include them in an extra voice
on the same staff).
Also, is there a way to break every 4 measures automatically without
manually inserting \break?
Include the following section in your piece; again, as an extra
voice on the same staff. Change the number to suit the length
of your piece.
\repeat unfold 8 {s1 s s s \break }
You could merge both solutions into one line. But again, I
don't think that measure the same width is a good idea.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: Fixed Measure Widths
Thanks for your answer, and for the explanation about copyediting, (I didn't know and I think you are right). In my message,I was just thinking about the specific hand-written real books layout that condenses in the same paper both theme and chord changes and I was thinking about a musical motivation to use and to ask for. Regards Libero Mureddu ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dvi problem with jedit 4.2final
Thanks again! Now my properties file looks like this: options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\:/Volumes/Documenti/sw/var/lib/ texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour/;file\:/Volumes/Documenti/sw/var/lib/texmf/fonts/ pk/ljfour/public/cm/;file\:/Volumes/Documenti/sw/var/lib/texmf/fonts/ pk/ljfour/jknappen/sauter/ and I can see all the elements of the score i'm typing. Still, it remains the problem with the macro, with your suggestion I receive an error message like this, and I can't understand what's wrong: Sourced file: /Volumes/Documenti/Users/libero/.jedit/startup/dvifontpath.bsh Token Parsing Error: Lexical error at line 1, column 56. Encountered: : (58), after : \options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\\: at unknown location at bsh.Interpreter.eval(Interpreter.java:691) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShell._runScript(BeanShell.java:355) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShell._runScript(BeanShell.java:284) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShell.runScript(BeanShell.java:210) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.Macros$BeanShellHandler.runMacro(Macros.java:996) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.jEdit.runStartupScripts(jEdit.java:3323) at org.gjt.sp.jedit.jEdit.main(jEdit.java:461) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.jav a:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessor Impl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) at apple.launcher.LaunchRunner.run(LaunchRunner.java:88) at apple.launcher.LaunchRunner.callMain(LaunchRunner.java:50) at apple.launcher.JavaApplicationLauncher.launch(JavaApplicationLauncher.ja va:52) of course i did my own .bsh file with the right path for my system: jEdit.setProperty(options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\:/Volumes/ Documenti/sw/var/lib/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour); Hope you can help me. Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808415 Mob. +358-41-7702668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dvi problem with jedit 4.2final
After a proof-search, I've found in my home folder, in the directory .jedit, a properties file in wich there's that line: options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\: I tried in various ways to puth the following path: /Volumes/Documenti/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.4/fonts/ that I supposed to be the right one but without any results. Also, I've checked at the Jdvi homepage, a properties file (http://www-sfb288.math.tu-berlin.de/jdvi/jdviProp), that shows a difference in the way to put the path: jdvi.font.path=file:/ I've already tried your suggestion with this output: [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: Got font path: file: I hope this can help you to solve my problem. Of course I'm absolutely happy to help you to investigate in MacOSX and LilyTool as far as I can (I'm absolutely not an expert!). Thanks again Libero Mureddu Il giorno 05/set/04, alle 22:08, Bertalan Fodor ha scritto: That means the fonts should be there but somehow jdvi can't find it. Please help us investigate it, because we couldn't test anything on Mac OS X and that can be the problem.: 1. select UtilitiesBeanShellEvaluate BeanShell expression... 2. Type: lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.getDVIFontPath(); Press OK. 3. select UtilitiesTroubleshootingActivity log and send us the last line of it saying Got Font Path: Thanks, Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I did, I forgot to say it in the mail, and I got, from the console, the following message: dvips -V -u /dev/null -o /dev/null -D 600 /Volumes/Documenti/Users/libero/Music/MUSICA/Lilypond/sestetto.dvi This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) ' TeX output 2004.09.05:1805' - /dev/null texc.promusic-drawing-routines.psspecial.pro. [1] LilyPond ready. But nothing has happened. And the activity log panel, in the activities-troubleshooting menu, says that jedit cant find the fonts. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808415 Mob. +358-41-7702668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dvi problem with jedit 4.2final
Yes! It works! Thanks a lot! The right path is (I suppose for all the lilypond-fink installations): /sw/var/lib/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour Jedit somehow change the properties file, so when I close and restart I have to set this again. I will make the macro when I''ll learn how to do...! Also point-and-click is working, and this environment, I mean all Lilytool+Jedit, seems to be very confortable to work with lilypond. Two other problem: - My score has a landscape orientation and I can't see it all in the Jdvi window, the frame where I see the score is fixed in a portrait orientation. Any idea? - Instrument names and title are still missing. I think is again a problem of path (maybe they are part of another group of fonts) but I haven't idea where to find them. Could you help me? Libero Mureddu Il giorno 08/set/04, alle 17:44, Bertalan Fodor ha scritto: Well, I think that the problem is with kpsewhich/kpsepath. You can make a workaround. Find the PK font files that are used by jdvi: they should be called feta13.600pk or something.pk In Linux you would find them in /var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour Edit .jedit/properties in your home directory and set the line like this: options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\:/Volumes/var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour This way jdvi should find the fonts. However, it is possible that after running Make DVI fonts you must set this property again. But you can make a macro for this: jEdit.setProperty(options.lilytool.dvi-font-path=file\:/Volumes/var/ cache/fonts/pk/ljfour); I hope I could help Bert Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808415 Mob. +358-41-7702668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: metronome mark
Good!
I have the 2.2.4 working and with metronome marks. Thank you all.
By the way, I just want to share one little experience: Lilypond, via
etf2ly, is compatible with Ircam's Openmusic, the lisp-based software
for computer-assisted composition; in Openmusic there's a module called
Voice that export to etf. The rough etf file looks much more better
converted in Lilypond than in Finale, and, for a tool that I use to try
a lot of different musical solution, to have immediatly a good output
is useful and time-saving.
It would be nice to have more integration between these two softwares:
now Openmusic, without libraries and tutorials, is free and open
source.
Libero
ll giorno 06/ago/04, alle 16:37, Benjamin Esham ha scritto:
On Aug 6, 2004, at 7:19 AM, Libero Mureddu wrote:
Il giorno 06/ago/04, alle 11:21, Mats Bengtsson ha scritto:
Unfortunately, you have found a bug that was introduced in version
2.2.5. If you have the possibility to install version 2.2.4 the
metronome markings should work correctly. I will send a bug report.
Unfortunately, it seems that via fink is not possible to install the
previous
version, fink doesn't find the 2.2.4. Do you think that the unstable
version
is stable enough at the moment? I'm not so expert to valuate this.
If you had the 2.2.4 package installed at one point, then there is a
very good
chance that you can still install it. Run the following commands in
the terminal:
cd /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text
sudo dpkg --install lilypond_2.2.4-1_darwin-powerpc.deb
Assuming that you had the 2.2.4 package installed before, this should
restore it.
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metronome mark
Hi!
Can you help me to understand why the metronome marking doesn't appear
in the following example?
I'm quite sure that I'm missing something very simple, but I can't
solve this.
I'm putting \tempo everywhere with no results.
Libero Mureddu
P.S. Thanks to Mats for the staff size solution!
Ibook g3 800
mac os 10.3.4
lilypond 2.2.5
% - Piano -
mdSuperiore = \notes {
\key g \major
\tempo 4=120
% \voiceOne
\mark \default
r4 r8 \relative g'' {g16 fis e d c b a}
\relative g' {g fis e }\time 2/4
}
mdInferiore = \notes {
% \voiceTwo
}
msSuperiore = \notes {
% \voiceOne
}
msInferiore = \notes {
% \voiceTwo
% \key g \major
% \relative c {
%\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32 } }
}
PianoMD = {
\clef treble
\context Staff
\context Voice = one \mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \mdInferiore
}
PianoMS = {
\clef bass
\context Staff
\context Voice = One \msSuperiore
\context Voice = Two \msInferiore
}
piano = {
\context PianoStaff
\override PianoStaff.VerticalAlignment #'forced-distance = #8
\override PianoStaff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\set PianoStaff.instrument = Pianoforte
\context Staff = upper \with {
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
}
\PianoMD
\context Staff = lower \with {
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
}
\PianoMS
}
% - Contrabbasso -
basso = \notes {
\tempo 4=120
\key g\major
| \relative c {g8. g'8 g,8 g'8. [g,8 g'] g,8~ [
| g16 g'8 g,] g'8.}
}
basso = {
\set Staff.instrument = Contrabbasso
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\clef bass
\context Staff
\basso
}
% - partitura -
\score {
\context PianoStaff = piano \piano
\context Staff = basso \basso
\paper {
\context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
}
}
}
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staff size and tremolo
Hi!
First of all, congratulation for this nice and interesting software,
that I'm trying to learn in order to free myself, in a near future,
both from sibelius and finale!
That's my problem:
I want to reduce the size of one staff, in my case the piano staff, but
the solution found in the docs - tips and tricks - staff-size.ly is
applied after the \new Staff \with etc.
Organizing my piece I used the structure shown in templates -
jazz-combo.ly, where the \new exist in the \score only for the drums. I
don't know where to put the lines to reduce the staff for the other
parts. Here is the structure of my file:
about the tremolo I receive the following warning:
warning: beam has less than two visible stems:
\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32
} }
What's wrong wtih my tremolo?
I'm using lilypond 2.2.5
apple ibook g3 800
mac os 10.3.4
Thank you in advance for your help.
Libero Mureddu
Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415
00350 Helsinki - Finlandia
Tel. +358-9-5808415
Mob. +358-41-7702668
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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20148 Milano - Italia
Tel. +39-02-4075953
Mob. +39-339-8757587
\version 2.2.5
\header {
title = A Rameau
composer = Libero Mureddu
}
% - Piano -
mdSuperiore = \notes {
\key g \major
% \voiceOne
\mark \default
r4 r8 \relative g'' {g16 fis e d c b a}
\relative g' {g fis e }\time 2/4
| {d' c' b a g fis e fis}
}
mdInferiore = \notes {
% \voiceTwo
}
msSuperiore = \notes {
% \voiceOne
}
msInferiore = \notes {
\voiceTwo
\key g \major
\relative c {
\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32 } }
}
PianoMD = {
\clef treble
\context Staff
\context Voice = one \mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \mdInferiore
}
PianoMS = {
\clef bass
\context Staff
\context Voice = One \msSuperiore
\context Voice = Two \msInferiore
}
piano = {
\context PianoStaff
\override PianoStaff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\set PianoStaff.instrument = Pianoforte
\context Staff = upper \PianoMD
\context Staff = lower\PianoMS
}
% - Contrabbasso -
basso = \notes {
\key g\major
| \relative c {g8. g'8 g,8 g'8. [g,8 g'] g,8~ [
| g16 g'8 g,] g'8.
| g,4 g8.
}
}
basso = {
\set Staff.instrument = Contrabbasso
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\clef bass
\context Staff
\basso
}
% - Batteria -
su = \drums {
hh4
}
giu = \drums {
bd4
}
drumContents = {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\set DrumStaff.instrument = Batteria
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \su }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \giu }
}
% - partitura -
\score {
\context PianoStaff = piano \piano
\context Staff = basso \basso
\new DrumStaff { \drumContents }
}
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Re: staff size and tremolo
Thank you for your help, the short explanation about kinds of syntaxes
is very clear and helpful, but I've already tried to put somewhere else
the \with {...} with no results. Anyway, I tried your solution putting
\with after PianoMD, no more errors but the pdf doesn't have the staff
reduced. The same if I put \with in the \score at the bottom of the
file. With the drums part (\new DrumStaff at the bottom) I have the
staff size reduced.
Libero Mureddu
\version 2.2.5
\header {
title = A Rameau
composer = Libero Mureddu
}
% - Piano -
mdSuperiore = \notes {
\key g \major
% \voiceOne
\mark \default
r4 r8 \relative g'' {g16 fis e d c b a}
\relative g' {g fis e }\time 2/4
| {d' c' b a g fis e fis}
}
mdInferiore = \notes {
% \voiceTwo
}
msSuperiore = \notes {
% \voiceOne
}
msInferiore = \notes {
\voiceTwo
\key g \major
\relative c {
\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32 } }
}
% HERE IS WHERE YOU SUGGESTED TO PUT \with
PianoMD = {
\clef treble
\context Staff
\context Voice = one \with {
fontSize = #-1
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -1)
}\mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \with {
fontSize = #-1
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -1)
}\mdInferiore
}
PianoMS = {
\clef bass
\context Staff
\context Voice = One \msSuperiore
\context Voice = Two \msInferiore
}
piano = {
\context PianoStaff
\override PianoStaff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\set PianoStaff.instrument = Pianoforte
\context Staff = upper \PianoMD
\context Staff = lower\PianoMS
}
% - Contrabbasso -
basso = \notes {
\key g\major
| \relative c {g8. g'8 g,8 g'8. [g,8 g'] g,8~ [
| g16 g'8 g,] g'8.
| g,4 g8.
}
}
basso = {
\set Staff.instrument = Contrabbasso
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\clef bass
\context Staff
\basso
}
% - Batteria -
su = \drums {
hh4
}
giu = \drums {
bd4
}
drumContents = {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\set DrumStaff.instrument = Batteria
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \su }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \giu }
}
% HERE I TRIED TO INSERT THE \with
% - partitura -
\score {
\context PianoStaff = piano \with {
fontSize = #-1
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -1)
} \piano
\context Staff = basso \basso
\new DrumStaff { \drumContents }
}
Il giorno 04/ago/04, alle 12:59, Mats Bengtsson ha scritto:
It's probably not very clear from the manual, but you can use the
\with{...} feature together with both syntaxes for creating a new
context:
\new Staff \with {SOME SETTINGS} {MUSIC}
and
\context Staff = NAME \with {SOME SETTINGS} {MUSIC}
So, in your example, you probably want to do
PianoMD = {
\clef treble
\context Staff
\context Voice = one \with{...} \mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \with{...} \mdInferiore
}
The warning about the tremolo is harmless. It seems that the
implementors didn't think of the case of a full bar tremolo,
when they designed that warning. Since you get the correct
output, it's nothing to worry about.
/Mats
Libero Mureddu wrote:
Hi!
First of all, congratulation for this nice and interesting software,
that I'm trying to learn in order to free myself, in a near future,
both from sibelius and finale!
That's my problem:
I want to reduce the size of one staff, in my case the piano staff,
but the solution found in the docs - tips and tricks -
staff-size.ly is applied after the \new Staff \with etc.
Organizing my piece I used the structure shown in templates -
jazz-combo.ly, where the \new exist in the \score only for the drums.
I don't know where to put the lines to reduce the staff for the other
parts. Here is the structure of my file:
about the tremolo I receive the following warning:
warning: beam has less than two visible stems:
\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32
} }
What's wrong wtih my tremolo?
I'm using lilypond 2.2.5
apple ibook g3 800
mac os 10.3.4
Thank you in advance for your help.
Libero Mureddu
Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 415
00350 Helsinki - Finlandia
Tel. +358-9-5808415
Mob. +358-41-7702668
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Via Abbiati, 4
20148 Milano - Italia
Tel. +39-02-4075953
Mob. +39-339-8757587
\version 2.2.5
\header {
title = A Rameau
composer = Libero Mureddu
}
% - Piano -
mdSuperiore = \notes {
\key g \major
% \voiceOne
\mark \default
r4 r8 \relative g'' {g16 fis e d c b a}
\relative g' {g fis e }\time 2/4
| {d' c' b a g fis e fis}
}
mdInferiore = \notes {
% \voiceTwo
}
msSuperiore = \notes {
% \voiceOne
}
msInferiore = \notes {
\voiceTwo
\key g \major
\relative c {
\repeat tremolo 16 { g32 d'32 } }
}
PianoMD = {
\clef treble
\context Staff
\context Voice = one \mdSuperiore
\context Voice = two \mdInferiore
}
PianoMS = {
\clef bass
\context Staff
\context Voice = One \msSuperiore
\context Voice
