Re: no view because of mistakes?
Thanks Janek,
On the Denemo list it was explained how I should do it in Denemo.
I'm glad it's sorted :-)
Ludo climbing-up-the-learning-curve
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Jan WarchoĊ <
lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/12/31 Ludo Beckers :
> > Thanks Xavier, in a 2nd post I explained I made a mistake thinking (doh)
> I
> > was sending my question to the Denemo list.
> > So I have a .denemo file only, no .ly
> > I'm pretty new to this, so I know I can see the Lilypond compilation
> view,
> > but don't know yet how to extract it as a .ly file.
> > Trying to change things in the Lilypond view doesn't (seem to) work.
> >
> > That's good to know; it might be wise to first get to know .ly files in
> that
> > fashion before trying to do all in Denemo or Frescobaldi.
>
> I recommend doing so. Read the Learning Manual, try to make a simple
> score with a regular text editor and afterwards decide if you want to
> use Denemo or something else.
>
> > Usually a GUI is easier than compiling yourself, but in this case it's
> > different - I'll have to learn the inner working better first.
> > I'm not a hero yet though with vim (also just starting with that).
> >
> > Here are 2 snippets from the Lilypond view - maybe it's very obvious
> where
> > the mistake is?
>
> Trying to compile it without Denemo is hard, because there are some
> Denemo artifacts (for example \Barline command doesn't come from
> default LilyPond specification and therefore LilyPond alone doesn't
> understand it)
> But i can see that the triplets are done wrongly for sure. For example line
> 4
>
> dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis'\Barline
>
> should read
>
> dis' fis' b4 ~ b \times 2/3 { b8 c' cis' } \Barline
>
> HTH,
> Janek
>
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Re: no view because of mistakes?
Thanks Xavier, in a 2nd post I explained I made a mistake thinking (doh) I was sending my question to the Denemo list. So I have a .denemo file only, no .ly I'm pretty new to this, so I know I can see the Lilypond compilation view, but don't know yet how to extract it as a .ly file. Trying to change things in the Lilypond view doesn't (seem to) work. wrote: > On 31 December 2010 01:07, Ludo Beckers wrote: > > > > You mean when trying to view in PDF? > > This is the result: > > > > Unable to open document. > > File type plain text document (text/plain) is not supported > > Which OS do you use? How do you compile with LilyPond? > > Under Windows you should have a .log file, IIRC. > Look within the repertory for a text file called your_file_name.log > (the same name as you .ly file). > > Under GNU/Linux if you compile within a terminal, the errors appears > in the terminal too. > If you use a dedicated text editor allowing you to compile within this > editor, then it should also have a buffer/terminal showing the errors > when compiling. > > Cheers, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no view because of mistakes? CORRECTION
oops... I just realized I'm on the Lilypond list here, and not the Denemo list! My mistake (a blushing apology) Maybe someone here can help out just the same; otherwise I'll repost on the appropiate list. Ludo From: Frauke Jurgensen > Subject: Re: no view because of mistakes? > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > When you compile the file, what does the output say? > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ludo Beckers wrote: > > When I make mistakes, how do I know where they are? > > I'm working on a tune that won't show the PDF-result and I haven't got a > > clue where the wrong input is (possibly the tuplets, because it's not so > > clear how to input them correctly). > > > > Ludo > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: no view because of mistakes?
You mean when trying to view in PDF? This is the result: Unable to open document. File type plain text document (text/plain) is not supported From: Frauke Jurgensen > Subject: Re: no view because of mistakes? > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > When you compile the file, what does the output say? > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ludo Beckers wrote: > > When I make mistakes, how do I know where they are? > > I'm working on a tune that won't show the PDF-result and I haven't got a > > clue where the wrong input is (possibly the tuplets, because it's not so > > clear how to input them correctly). > > > > Ludo > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
no view because of mistakes?
When I make mistakes, how do I know where they are? I'm working on a tune that won't show the PDF-result and I haven't got a clue where the wrong input is (possibly the tuplets, because it's not so clear how to input them correctly). Ludo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
Thanks Martin; installing it today :-) Ludo On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > > I am using Frescobaldi on a non-KDE Fedora 14 system. I am running a LXDE > version of Fedora, and sometimes I also use GNOME. And yes, when I install > Frescobaldi using my package manager quite some KDE related stuff is also > installed. But there is no problem in that, unless you have very limited > disk and memory space on a very old computer. > > -- > > Martin > > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
Hi Wilbert The 2nd address in your signature is the forum where I reacted on 2 of your posts, but didn't see a reaction. I'm "catch22" in that one. I might be interested in also checking out Frescobaldi, but wonder if it makes much sense on a non-KDE-system (too many KDE-dependencies)? Flemish greetings ;-) Ludo From: Wilbert Berendsen < > Op zondag 19 december 2010 schreef Ludo: > > > Frescobaldi was the first one I looked at, but asking questions on their > > Dutch forum (the developer is Dutch, so it seemed the most logical place) > > was in vain; no replies at all. > > Best place for Frescobaldi help is Frescobaldi or LilyPond mailing list, i > suppose ;-) see http://frescobaldi.org/links > > The Dutch LilyPond form is sometimes quite quiet indeed :) > > best regards, > Wilbert Berendsen > > -- > Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ > Nederlands LilyPond forum: http://www.lilypondforum.nl/ > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Marc Mouries wrote: > On Dec 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ludo Beckers wrote: > > > Just wondering, has there ever been a poll about how many Lilypond users > work with a certain specific tool. > > Is the majority in this group using denemo, frescobaldi, lilypondtool or > other tools? > > > I am on Mac and built my own editor "LilyEditor" very simple with syntax > highlighting and just one button to invoke lilypond and update the pdf view. > > That's probably beyond my present capabilities, but could you explain briefly how you achieved a customization like that? > > > > On PC, i switch between notepad++ and the ecipse plugin Elysium. > Elysium is also on my list to check out, having touched the surface of Eclipse (with the Karel program, probably the simplest in the world ;-)) Ludo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
That makes sense to me. In my case it's only 10% of arranging and composing. I read somewhere btw that there's an OpenOffice-tool as well; I'll have to check that one out for sure. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Nils Gey wrote: > An important but unasked question is for what do you need notation? > > If it is "just" transcribing from paper the task is not that critical. > You need to get "in" information you already know. But if you compose > or arrange and you are not a conservative person who was taught to > repeat the sentence "real composers use pen and paper" over and over > again you want to have more control over your music. > > I think that lilypond is not suited for composing in its syntax. Its an > engraver with the purpose to create notation sheets. How the > information was generated does not matter. > > So you need an additional tool to write and modify your notes in a > more musical way. And thats Denemo. > > Nils > > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
Frescobaldi was the first one I looked at, but asking questions on their Dutch forum (the developer is Dutch, so it seemed the most logical place) was in vain; no replies at all. After that I looked at Denemo, and their forum is very much alive. To get aquanited with Lilypond syntax I'll start using Gvim as a stepping stone to vim, I think. PS Arlon and Antwerp must look the same today; everything covered in snow ;-) On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On 19 December 2010 10:32, Luca Rossetto Casel > wrote: > > > > I usually work with Frescobaldi; sometimes, Lilypond Tool. > > Frescobaldi is a great tool! > Its "score wizard" (Ctrl+Maj+N) is very useful for beginners, IMHO. > > Under Windows I use jEdit+LilyPondTool, really nice too. > Sometimes I simply use gedit (GNU/Linux) or notepad (windows), when > I do small modifications. > > Cheers, > Xavier > > PS : Arlon/Louvain-la-Neuve here! > > -- > Xavier Scheuer > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ways of using Lilypond?
I guess I asked this question because I'm not sure whether or not I should first learn Lilypond syntax and then see if I want/need to use tools besides it. I asked about the combination vim-Lilypond sometime ago, but that would be 2 steep learning curves to tackle at once; a bit too much. btw Jethro, I see we're fellow countrymen :-) (Antwerpen here) Ludo On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jethro Van Thuyne wrote: > Ludo Beckers: > > > Just wondering, has there ever been a poll about how many Lilypond users > > work with a certain specific tool. > > Is the majority in this group using denemo, frescobaldi, lilypondtool or > > other tools? > > Vim, with custom mappings (or without), has been the most practical > tool for me so far. > > Jethro. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ways of using Lilypond?
Just wondering, has there ever been a poll about how many Lilypond users work with a certain specific tool. Is the majority in this group using denemo, frescobaldi, lilypondtool or other tools? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Request to mailing list lilypond-user rejected
No, there's only 1 "from" A moderator contacted me off line though - we'll probably sort it out What I think happened is that the old nabble list sent me a mail with confusing instructions about setting mail on "no delivery", which I did - turns out that was for Lilypond list and not nabble in general I changed that just now Thanks for your reply Francisco Now let's see if this message appears :-) Ludo On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2010/12/10 Ludo Beckers : > > > I never got a reply though. Any idea why my subscription was first > accepted and > > then rejected on the same day? > > Do you have several From: lines to choose from in Gmail? This could be > the cause, you shoud always write to the list with the same From: you > are subscribed with. > > -- > Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) > www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Request to mailing list lilypond-user rejected
I managed to post in the list as a new subscribed user, but couldn't reply. I received this: Your request to the lilypond-user mailing list Posting of your message titled "vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions" has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: "Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list. Since you are not subscribed to this list, please use the Gmane interface at http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general for posting messages. Thank you, The LilyPond mailing list administrators " Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at: lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org So I wrote him/her: I did subscribe to the list, but still got this rejection message (below). My reply to the thread I started doesn't appear; is that because all posts are moderated all the time? If so, sorry to bother you for nothing - I'll be patient :-) Ludo Beckers I never got a reply though. Any idea why my subscription was first accepted and then rejected on the same day? Ludo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions
thank you James & James & Tim I'll delve into the learning manual and see how far I get (ps I'm not on Mac but on Linux) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
