Re: mixed piano bracket style
Thanks, Valentin. That looks great. However, when I use it in a Dynamics context, I get an error message. Is there something else I would need to do to transplant this to a Dynamics context? I appreciate the work you did to make this. Best, Michael \version "2.23.5" right = \relative c'' { } left = \relative c' { c1 | c1 | } ped = { \override Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket.edge-height = #'(0 . 0) \override Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket.stencil = #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob orig) (let* ((star (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:musicglyph "pedal.*"))) (gr_orig (ly:grob-original grob)) (sibs (if (ly:grob? gr_orig) (ly:spanner-broken-into gr_orig) '( (if (and (ly:grob? gr_orig) (eq? grob (last sibs))) (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge orig X RIGHT star -0.82) orig \set Dynamics.pedalSustainStyle = #'mixed s1\sustainOn | s\sustainOff | } \score { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "right" \right \new Staff = "left" { \clef bass \left } \new Dynamics \ped >> } Drawing systems... C:/Users/micha/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-c_q44hr8/tmpgtfg9hts/document.ly:20:48 <0>: In procedure last in expression (last sibs): C:/Users/micha/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-c_q44hr8/tmpgtfg9hts/document.ly:20:48 <1>: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting pair): () Exited with return code 1. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 5:37 PM Valentin Petzel wrote: > Hello Michael, > Could something like this work? > > Cheers, > Valentin > > Am Donnerstag, 27. Jänner 2022, 23:13:49 CET schrieb Michael Rivers: > > Does anyone know if there was ever an answer to this? I’m re-engraving a > > score that has a piano pedal style with “Ped”, then a solid line, then a > > “*” at the end. It’s close to “mixed” style but with an added “*” at the > > end. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Michael > > > >
Re: mixed piano bracket style
Does anyone know if there was ever an answer to this? I’m re-engraving a score that has a piano pedal style with “Ped”, then a solid line, then a “*” at the end. It’s close to “mixed” style but with an added “*” at the end. Thanks in advance,Michael
Re: fonts on windows
Abraham, If a user follows your steps, Windows will by default put the font in a folder somewhere designated for the local user only. To install a font for all users (as one currently has to do to get Lilypond to see it), one has to right click on the font and select "run as administrator". Windows 11 adds an extra (unnecessary in my opinion) step of having to select "more options" to get to "run as administrator". By the way, Abraham, I've used and very much enjoyed your music fonts for Lilypond over the years! Michael On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 12:03 AM Abraham Lee wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:47 PM Michael Rivers > wrote: > >> That sounds exactly like the case. Would anyone happen to know how to >> install the fonts system-wide? >> > > I'm not Aaron, but this is very easy to do. However, Windows treats this > folder a bit special and, as others have suggested, the user interacts > with it differently than other normal folders. To install a font > system-wide, you first open a file explorer and navigate to > C:\Windows\Fonts, which then will show you the fonts, organized by font > family (if you double-click on any family, it will show you the individual > fonts in the family). You then simply drag+drop the font file(s) onto the > Fonts folder and Windows will pop up an "installer" dialog box, which > disappears when successful. This does more than just put the fonts in the > right folder. Windows does some other things, like doing some font file > validation to make sure it's a valid font and adding entries to the system > registry. So, I don't recommend using the command line to copy font files > into that folder, but you can do that. Windows just doesn't perform the > same functions as when you do it graphically and the font may not be found > by other applications. > > Hope that helps, > Abraham >
Re: fonts on windows
Done. Thanks for the tip, Werner. On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 12:40 AM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> Yes, I managed to figure that out. It would be nice if Lilypond > >> could find fonts for the current user too. > > > > Definitely. Looks to be an issue with fontconfig [1] and not > > LilyPond. > > > > [1]: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/144 > > The issue even has a patch for the problem. I thus suggest that you > add a comment to the issue, saying that you have been hit by this very > problem, too, and that you would like to see the patch (or a proper > accommodation) being applied for the next release. > > This is how development of free software works :-) > > > Werner >
Re: fonts on windows
That sounds exactly like the case. Would anyone happen to know how to install the fonts system-wide? Thank you so much, Aaron. On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 7:40 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2022-01-15 5:14 pm, Michael Rivers wrote: > > I'm pretty sure text fonts on Windows are kaput. Some work, some don't. > > The > > fonts I'd like to use show up as installed properly in Settings and > > work in > > all other apps I've tried, but not Lilypond. I'm on Windows 11, but > > I've > > also tried on Windows 10. > > Are your fonts installed for all users or just your own account? Back > in the day, fonts were always stored system-wide in %WinDir%\Fonts. At > some point, Microsoft introduced an option for user-specific fonts which > are located in %LocalAppData%\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts. Depending > on how LilyPond enumerates fonts, it might only be picking up the > system-wide ones. > > > -- Aaron Hill >
Re: fonts on windows
Windows shows some sort of other font interface when one navigates to windows/fonts. It doesn't try to look like a normal directory. The Windows user does not have direct access to a folder named "windows/fonts", or if she or he does, I don't know how to find it. If installing a font correctly in the operating system doesn't give Lilypond access to it, I think it's fair to say that Lilypond is broken when handling text fonts in Windows. On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 7:34 PM Kevin Pye wrote: > While my knowledge of Windows is extremely limited, my experience is that > Windows lies to you. If you use Windows Explorer to navigate to > c:\windows\fonts you will see a lot of fonts installed. If instead you open > a command window, cd to the same directory and run "dir", you will get a > different list. Presumably Windows Explorer is showing you all fonts the > system knows about, even when they are not installed in c:\windows\fonts. > > If lilypond is looking at the fonts directory, it will see only those > fonts in that directory, and not those installed elsewhere in the system, > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, at 12:14, Michael Rivers wrote: > > I'm pretty sure text fonts on Windows are kaput. Some work, some don't. > The fonts I'd like to use show up as installed properly in Settings and > work in all other apps I've tried, but not Lilypond. I'm on Windows 11, but > I've also tried on Windows 10. > > >
Re: fonts on windows
I'm pretty sure text fonts on Windows are kaput. Some work, some don't. The fonts I'd like to use show up as installed properly in Settings and work in all other apps I've tried, but not Lilypond. I'm on Windows 11, but I've also tried on Windows 10.
Fingering collision with tempo when using cross-staff beams
The fingering here collides with the tempo. If the cross-staff beams are commented out (all notes on the upper staff), the fingering displays fine. Is there a workaround? Am I doing something wrong? \version "2.23.5" global = { \time 6/8 \tempo "Allegro" } goUp = { \change Staff = "right" \stemDown } goDown = { \change Staff = "left" \stemUp } right = \relative c'' { \global 8-2-4 \goDown \goUp \goDown d,4.->_5 | } left = \relative c' { \global s2. | } \score { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "right" \right \new Staff = "left" { \left } >> }
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.1 has been released!
The Score Wizard is fixed for Windows 10 in the latest version, 3.1.1. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.1 has been released!
The score wizard does nothing for me in Frescobaldi 3.1 (Windows version). I uninstalled it and reinstalled the old version, whose score wizard works fine. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html
Re: Fingering orientation question
Are you looking for this? \override Staff.Fingering.direction = #DOWN -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html
Re: frescobaldi print music
I have always had formatting problems printing from Frescobaldi too. The built-in PDF printer in Windows 10 works just fine for me. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Increasing spacing between staves
When I run into this problem, I just print an invisible note somewhere that forces more space between the staves. I believe I read about that solution somewhere on this forum years ago. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hello / a 1st question
I was just about to post that solution (print-all-headers, no book or book part). I also do short children's piano pieces. The solution also works for variations. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hello-a-1st-question-tp204966p204990.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MsLily - LilyPond Add-In for Word
That's fantastic! I'm installing it now. Thank you so much. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/MsLily-LilyPond-Add-In-for-Word-tp204473p204478.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes
"This looks like it should be the standard behaviour of Lilypond. Can anybody tell how the chances are of integrating this into off-the-shelf Lilypond? Would be really convenient." Finding out about this bug and how to work around it is almost a rite of passage for Lilypond users. I know absolutely nothing about the inner workings, but I guess it must be incredibly difficult to solve or it would have been solved by now. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Double-time-signature-when-there-are-grace-notes-tp199984p200079.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Error code -1073741819 with tie and tenuto
I was setting a song by Lior Novak and got an error message 1073741819 with these chords: \version "2.19.47" \relative c { 1~-- | | } If I remove either the tie or the tenuto on the first chord, it compiles fine. I got around the problem by tying the notes individually (), but I don't understand why the tying the whole chord that also has a tenuto throws an error message. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Error-code-1073741819-with-tie-and-tenuto-tp196571.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo
Really? Hi Urs, > Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful > effect either. Really? No need to be sarcastic in a reply to an honest question. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/vertically-aligning-text-marks-tempo-tp195444p195491.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dorico release and tutorials
Yikes -- $559! Even if the output were better than Lilypond's, that's way out of my reach. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Dorico-release-and-tutorials-tp195437p195490.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10
Anders Eriksson wrote > On 2016-09-14 12:07, Phil Holmes wrote: >> - Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" >> > lilypond@ > >> To: "Knut Petersen" > Knut_Petersen@ > ; "lilypond-user" >> > lilypond-user@ > >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM >> Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10 >> >> >> I've tried to reproduce this on my Windows 10 machine using Process >> Monitor to check file operations. I get an initial slow run with both >> .42 and .43 (I didn't time .42, but .43 was 10.8 seconds). My second >> run with .42 was 0.8 seconds, and 0.4 s with .43. So I can't help >> much further unless I can reproduce the problem. My Windows version >> in 10.0.14393 - what version is the problem appearing on? Do you have >> files in c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 ? Do they >> update every time LilyPond is run? >> > After deleting all the files in the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory it > works like normal! Takes a bit longer the first time but not in later > runs. > > One thing that I noticed was that the latest files where called > ef9c9ad8cc5857eb63cb3660bc8bd202-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW > 639439a01d569ee739160185e4d7a48e-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW > > The were two files called exactly the same minus the .NEW also in the > directory. > > > > > Thanks for helping! > > // Anders > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@ > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Same here -- deleting the files in that directory fixed it for me too. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Version-2-18-vs-2-19-speed-and-W10-tp194256p194554.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: changing staff-size throughout a score
I was hoping to be able to change staff sizes within a score without the bizarre kludge of creating an entirely new score everytime the staff size changes. Many apologies for being unclear. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/changing-staff-size-throughout-a-score-tp194304p194408.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: changing staff-size throughout a score
Well, having staves of different sizes run in parallel is certainly helpful in some cases. Thanks for showing me how to do that. In other cases, I want to be able to, say, print an example of a scale in normal sized print, followed by an arbitrary number of larger staves for students to draw their own scales. That would require being able to change the size of a single staff on the fly. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/changing-staff-size-throughout-a-score-tp194304p194387.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: changing staff-size throughout a score
If this is possible, it would be very nice to know how to do. When making worksheets, I want to make the examples in regular sized staves and make the lines for the student responses with larger staves. Sibelius is stuck with one staff size throughout the whole document. As far as I know, Finale is the only notation software that handles changing staff sizes with ease. It would be great if Lilypond could join it. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/changing-staff-size-throughout-a-score-tp194304p194331.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10
I'm not sure it's due to a change between v2.19.46 and 47. For most of the summer, I had been running an older development version and an older version of Frescobaldi for a while, and they were running fine. I hadn't run Lilypond in a few weeks, and in the meantime Windows 10 updated to the "Anniversary edition". When I ran Lilypond again two days ago, it was 20 times slower. Trying to fix that, I updated Lilypond and Frescobaldi to the newest versions, but that didn't help. So, while I can't tell exactly what caused the extreme reduction in speed, I can confirm that Lilypond on the current version of Windows runs dramatically slower with versions somewhat older than 2.19.47. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Version-2-18-vs-2-19-speed-and-W10-tp194256p194332.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10
Same problem here. I didn't save any compile times before the update for comparison, but Lilypond just crawls now. I was compiling a one-page piece last night, which used to go by in a flash, and now it takes a good 10 seconds. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Version-2-18-vs-2-19-speed-and-W10-tp194256p194257.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments
Just my opinion, but I think it is usually a good idea to use an original source such as Purcell's mentioned in the original post, rather than rely on a secondary source such as Dolmetsch. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-tp148407p192853.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments
That looks great. Thanks so much! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-tp148407p192792.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments
Did anybody ever come up with a way to draw the shake from Purcell in Lilypond? I'm trying to typeset something from the book cited in the top post, and my skills are not up to the task. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-tp148407p192771.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: appoggiatura problem
Encountering this bug for the first time is a right of passage. It will probably not be fixed in our lifetimes. Congratulations, you are now a Lilyponder! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/appoggiatura-problem-tp192328p192353.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Changing default fingering location for lower staff in a grand staff
Thanks, that's perfect. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Changing-default-fingering-location-for-lower-staff-in-a-grand-staff-tp191855p191861.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Changing default fingering location for lower staff in a grand staff
Is there a way to set the default location for fingering in the lower staff of a grand staff to be below the staff rather than above? I realize that I can write, e.g., "c_1" instead of "c-1" every time. However, after a few years of using Lilypond, I have wasted so much time fixing my errors (both accidentally putting the fingering above in the lower staff and below in the upper staff after having worked in the bass clef for a while) that I would really like to be able to just use the default "c-1" and have Lilypond know the correct default location. (To be honest, it kind of irks me that Lilypond doesn't know the standard default location of fingering for the lower staff. Putting the fingering below (except, of course, when there are multiple voices) has been the standard for a long time in printed music. It seems to me that if a user writes "c-1" for a bass clef note in a grand staff, Lilypond should put the finger number below the staff by default.) I apologize if this is in the manual or the snippet repository, but I couldn't find it. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Changing-default-fingering-location-for-lower-staff-in-a-grand-staff-tp191855.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dorico announced
I don't think consumers first looking at a name will go to a blog on the internet to find out how to pronounce it. Dorico is going to be pronounced like Dorito a lot in the beginning. At least everyone knows what a lily pond is and how to say it. In any case, the name is probably not very important in the long term. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Dorico-announced-tp190714p190738.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dorico announced
Hmm...not a fan of the name Dorico. It sounds a little too close to Dorito to me. Does it come in nacho cheese and cool ranch? If the quality of the output is better than Lilypond (and 349 pounds sterling fall out of the sky into my lap), I might consider it. After all those years of making theory tests for my music school's students in Sibelius, and every year having to ask myself, "How did I make that crazy, non-standard thing happen last year?", I don't think I'll be leaving Lilypond's text input anytime soon. Having a complete record of exactly how I made a score is just too nice. I do wish Steinberg the best, though. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Dorico-announced-tp190714p190720.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Google Summer of Code projects 2016
That is just such wonderful news for everyone. Thank you so much to the students, mentors and everybody involved in organizing this. >From a personal standpoint, being able to have slurs and ties cross voices in all the piano music I engrave would increase my quality of life significantly. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Google-Summer-of-Code-projects-2016-tp189997p190020.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I'm not smart enough to figure out the math for this.
Thanks for the solutions. I'm OK with an error message! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-m-not-smart-enough-to-figure-out-the-math-for-this-tp188290p188297.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
I'm not smart enough to figure out the math for this.
I'm trying to make a snippet for students with intentional mistakes for them to correct. I want the time signature to say 4/3, but for the music to actually be in 3/4. Should I use "scaleDurations", and what should the ratio be? Or is there a better way to do this? \version "2.19.24" \relative c' { \time 4/3 c4 c c | c c c } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-m-not-smart-enough-to-figure-out-the-math-for-this-tp188290.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I adjust organ pedal marks vertically?
Look out -- here come the urtext police! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/How-do-I-adjust-organ-pedal-marks-vertically-tp187454p187466.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Henle app
I downloaded the Henle library app on my iPad. It's pretty bare-bones, especially from what I'm used to in forScore, but I'm sure over time they'll add features over time. Very few scores are available. For example, for piano, there are only the Beethoven and Mozart sonatas, Bach Well-Tempered, and Chopin Etudes and Waltzes. The metronome can't be set to any tempo, only multiples of 4. I wish I could just zoom in on the score to fill the screen without changing the original layout like I can with forScore. The best features are being able to remove editorial fingering and print the whole score. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Henle-app-tp186418p187004.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)
This isn't meant to be sung by a singer. This is from a beginner's piano method (I'm a piano teacher). The words are to give a sense of the stress in the meter, to give the player an idea of the mood of the piece, and possibly for the player to sing along. The slurs, though, are entirely for the pianist and have nothing to do with the lyrics. I don't really have an opinion if it is a good idea to introduce young musicians to non-standard notation. Personally, my students and I pretty much ignore the texts (which are usually of poor quality anyway) and play as it were a normal piano score. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/How-write-cross-staff-slur-in-combination-with-lyrics-tp182033p182126.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond teaching material
Yes, that was my first thought too. Those video tutorials are quite nice. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/lilypond-teaching-material-tp181185p181226.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertical spacing of rests
It would be nice if this were just newbie question, but all of us old-bies and have to deal with it all the time. It would be really nice if Lilypond just combined the rests as it should. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/vertical-spacing-of-rests-tp179947p179951.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius 8
Avid firing the Sibelius development team is what sent me scouring the internet in a panic to find a replacement, and to me finding Lilypond. I can't thank Avid enough. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Sibelius-8-tp178154p178165.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adding lunga text above rehearsal mark fermata
Yes, exactly. Thank you! I have run into another problem in the meantime: fermatas over barlines appear at the end of lines, but the rehearsal marks appear at the beginning. Do you know a way to force them back to the end of the previous line? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Adding-lunga-text-above-rehearsal-mark-fermata-tp178091p178095.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Adding lunga text above rehearsal mark fermata
I'm setting a piece that has fermatas over bar lines with the text lunga printed above the fermata. Any ideas about how that can be achieved? \version 2.19.18 { c'1 | c' | \mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.ufermata } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Adding-lunga-text-above-rehearsal-mark-fermata-tp178091.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pianostaff 4-part writing and rests
Thanks to everyone in the thread who has given code and tips. I agree that it would be very nice if something were included in Lily herself to solve this. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Pianostaff-4-part-writing-and-rests-tp170926p171718.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pianostaff 4-part writing and rests
I just engraved a piece for which the standard solutions given in this thread worked especially badly. There were many 8th notes alternating with 8th rests (which should be merged by Lilypond, but can't be automatically), so switching back and forth between a polyphonic structure and \oneVoice was not workable. I used b8\rest for centering the rests in the treble clef and d8\rest for the bass, but then the singer wanted me to transpose the whole score down a step, and I had to manually rewrite all the 8th rests in the score which got transposed too. Not fun. Rests in multiple voices not merging by default or having a setting to merge them is one of the two most common frustrations I encounter with Lilypond (the staves in a grand staff failing to widen to allow for cross-staff beams is the other). -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Pianostaff-4-part-writing-and-rests-tp170926p171659.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Opposite hand indicator
Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Opposite-hand-indicator-tp167641p167664.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ottava overlapping fermata
The spacing between staves when cross staff beams are used is also a big problem in Lilypond (it doesn't provide enough and then throws errors). In general, if you are using cross staff beams, get used to having lots of issues. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Ottava-overlapping-fermata-tp165649p165670.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: See the new music fonts in action
Fantastic work! It's going to be difficult waiting to use these. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/See-the-new-music-fonts-in-action-tp164898p164925.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Piano scoring with centered dynamics
It would be good to update to the latest version (2.18.2). Also, if you post your file as a minimal example (make you file as short as possible) we can help you better. Thanks for posting. This board is a great resource to help you get started. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Piano-scoring-with-centered-dynamics-tp161005p161019.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Palestrina: Missa Brevis
Wonderful! Downloaded and printing now. I'm going to play through it on the piano and follow along with a recording. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Palestrina-Missa-Brevis-tp160656p160664.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.14
As always, thank you for your work on Frescobaldi. It makes life so much better for me. I think we are the same age; 43 has been good to me so far, and I hope it is good to you too. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-0-14-tp160191p160212.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Experiences from voice handling wanted
I think you just have to remember to use \oneVoice or \stemNeutral when the 2nd voice isn't playing. If the 2nd voice is coming and going frequently, you are much better off using { \voiceOne Music goes here } \new Voice { { \voiceTwo Music goes here } } \oneVoice This way, when the voices split in two, the first voice can continue using a slur it had begun before the voices split. If you use { } \\ {} to split the voices, you'll get Cannot terminate slur errors, and then you have to start the second voice before you really want to, fill it with spacer rests and manually change the stemming -- no fun. There is a really nice post on the Scores of Beauty blog about temporary polyphonic sections by Urs Liska: http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/voice-contexts-in-temporary-polyphonic-sections/ -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Experiences-from-voice-handling-wanted-tp157895p158088.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: grace notes and ledger lines
I checked the 8va and 8vb sections in Music Notation by Gardner Read, and 8va is only to be used above the treble clef and 8vb below the bass, and no woodwinds use the 8vb sign. He's obviously only one authority, but he's a good one. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/grace-notes-and-ledger-lines-tp157836p157878.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two voices, two clefs, one staff
Thanks so much, Nathan. I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it tricky! I'm not concerned with MIDI output at all, so your solution works perfectly. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Two-voices-two-clefs-one-staff-tp156263p156396.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Two voices, two clefs, one staff
I'm typesetting the song La Flûte enchantée by Ravel. There's a bit in the piano part with notes from both bass and treble clefs displayed simultaneously (see jpgs). I thought I'd seen everything, but this has me stumped. Can anybody help? Here's what I've got so far: \version 2.16.2 global = { \key b \minor \numericTimeSignature \time 2/4 } left = \relative c { \global { \voiceOne r8 gis'4( gis'8) | %16 \clef treble bis, dis a' bis4( cis e ais cis~ \times 2/3 { q4 d eis b' d dis fis bis dis) } | %17 bis dis a' bis4( cis e ais cis~ \times 2/3 { q4 d eis b' d dis fis bis dis) } | %18 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo \clef bass gis,, dis'2- | %16 \clef bass \acciaccatura gis, gis'8~ gis gis'1~ | %17 q | %18 } } \score { \new PianoStaff \with { } \new Staff = left { \clef bass \left } } http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156263/Ravel_clip_one.jpg http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156263/Ravel_clip_two.jpg -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Two-voices-two-clefs-one-staff-tp156263.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to structure piano music?
In my experience, { } \\ {} will sometimes for for a short section with multiple voices, but if there was a slur already under way before the voices split or a slur that continues after the voices merge, it won't work. In that case, { \voiceOne } \new Voice { \voiceTwo } \oneVoice works much better. Unfortunately, if you're setting something like a fugue that has a voice moving between the two staves, manually setting the stem direction seems to be unavoidable. Defining a few variables helps: goUp = { \change Staff = right \stemDown } goDown = { \change Staff = left \stemUp } Don't forget \stemNeutral when the extra voice leaves the staff too. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/How-to-structure-piano-music-tp154017p154075.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?
I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-2014-seriously-tp153908p153952.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?
Adding the additional space via markup worked. Is this an issue I should create a bug tracker for? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/What-s-the-best-way-to-fix-these-beams-and-staff-spacing-tp153566p153678.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?
Here is the 28th bar of an etude by Rachmaninoff: \version 2.16.2 global = { \key g \minor \time 4/4 } goUp = { \change Staff = right \stemDown } goDown = { \change Staff = left \stemUp } right = \relative c'' { \global r32 as,( c fis c'8) \goDown d,,32( es fis \goUp g c es g, es) \goDown bes( es b' \goUp g c g' es g,) \goDown as,( c fis \goUp \clef bass es g c es, c) | } left = \relative c { \global \voiceTwo es8_( fis32 g b c) d,8_ c- bes4_ as8_ g_ | } \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff = right \right \new Staff = left { \clef bass \left } } What would be the best way of fixing this output? The space between the staves is fine for all but this system and one other with the same problem. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/What-s-the-best-way-to-fix-these-beams-and-staff-spacing-tp153566.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?
Thanks for the reply. My scanner's broken, but there are two scans of the Rachmaninoff prelude at IMSLP: http://imslp.org/wiki/Etudes-tableaux,_Op.33_%28Rachmaninoff,_Sergei%29 The first edition at IMSLP lists the G minor prelude as the 8th prelude; the second one lists it as the 7th prelude. In the second edition (which is a little better), it's the 7th etude, 3rd page, 3rd system. It's pretty clear what's wrong with the Lilypond output: the beams cross right over the note heads. http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153592/Rachmaninoff_Prelude_Op._33_No._7_clip.png -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/What-s-the-best-way-to-fix-these-beams-and-staff-spacing-tp153566p153592.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?
Thanks for the solutions. Mark -- that's the kind of solution I used the last time this came up in a score, but this time I'd like to show which hand Rachmaninoff wants the notes played with. Keith -- I do have a dynamic context, so I'll try putting in some blank space that way. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/What-s-the-best-way-to-fix-these-beams-and-staff-spacing-tp153566p153609.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with temporary polyphony
There's a nice article on the Lilypond blog about temporary polyphony: http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/voice-contexts-in-temporary-polyphonic-sections/ -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Problem-with-temporary-polyphony-tp151904p151945.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie placement in voiceTwo
I believe it was Couperin who distinguished between ties and slurs in his manuscripts by using slightly different shapes for each. I don't have my copy of L'art de toucher le clavecin nearby, but I believe the slurs had more squared-off ends and ties had more rounded ends. Too bad Couperin's system didn't catch on. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tie-placement-in-voiceTwo-tp150033p150074.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: tablet
Anything that runs on Windows will run on a Surface tablet (but not a Surface RT tablet). They're really expensive, though. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/RE-tablet-tp148599p148615.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Finale bug from Lilypond Essay found in commercial score
I'm typesetting Earl Wild's piano transcription of Rachmaninoff's In the Silent Night in Lilypond for my own use. The original is set using Finale from around 1990 (the copyright date). In bar 31, there's a B sharp in the second voice in the right hand, and later in the bar, an octave B natural in the first voice. However, the engraver has forgotten to draw a natural sign in front of one of the B's in the first voice. I confirmed that the natural is intended by listening to Wild's own recording. This is the exact same Finale bug mentioned in the Bach Fugue example from the Essay on Automated Music Engraving on the Lilypond site! It just goes to show that even good typesetters can't catch all of Finale's mistakes. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Finale-bug-from-Lilypond-Essay-found-in-commercial-score-tp148477.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie Crusade
I'd like to join the effort, but I don't have the skills -- the last programming I did was 12 years ago in college, and it was it C, not C++ (I don't even know what the difference is). However, I'd be willing to make a small financial contribution if someone could tell me where to send it -- this seems like an worthy cause. I still think that throwing an error for an enharmonic tie is as bad as having bad looking ties. It's the first case I've encountered where Lilypond doesn't understand pretty basic music notation. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tie-Crusade-tp147937p148011.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie Crusade
As long as we're at it, how about fixing the bug where ties don't work with enharmonic notes? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tie-Crusade-tp147937p147970.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Making space for markup with cross-staff beams
That looks great! Fitting dynamics and markups in piano music without the staves getting ridiculously far apart is my biggest challenge in using Lilypond. It's amazing the nooks and crannies hand engravers find to put markups. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Making-space-for-markup-with-cross-staff-beams-tp146847p146857.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bravura - new font...
I saw that too. It's bolder and more engraved looking than the other commercial music fonts, at least. I don't know what to think about the new music font format. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bravura-new-font-tp146234p146235.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cross staff/cross voice arpeggio colliding with previous note
In this excerpt from a piece I'm typesetting, the first two arpeggios are fine, but the third collides with the previous note in the right hand's upper voice. Is there a way to avoid the collision? \version 2.16.2 global = { \key as \major \time 6/8 } rightOne = \relative c'' { \global bes16\arpeggio( g' bes f g\arpeggio c, bes4.)\arpeggio } rightTwo = \relative c' { \global d4\arpeggio es8\arpeggio f16\arpeggio g bes f g bes, } left = \relative c { \global bes aes'4\arpeggio bes aes' c8\arpeggio bes aes' d4.\arpeggio } \score { \new PianoStaff \set PianoStaff.connectArpeggios = ##t \new Staff = right \with {\consists Span_arpeggio_engraver} \rightOne \\ \rightTwo \new Staff = left { \clef bass \left } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cross-staff-cross-voice-arpeggio-colliding-with-previous-note-tp146197.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.10
Excellent! Thank you so much for all your work. Using Frescobaldi is always a pleasure. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-0-10-tp145815p145829.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: repeated time signatures
I make lots of worksheets in which I need a time signature repeated for the student's answer. I like the current behavior. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/repeated-time-signatures-tp145185p145262.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hiding staff lines without barlines hiding
I use \override Staff.Clef #'stencil = ##f \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'stencil = ##f -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hiding-staff-lines-without-barlines-hiding-tp143606p143625.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Hiding one empty staff of three-staff piano score but not two
I'm typesetting a piano score that is mostly in two staves, but occasionally in three. I have filled the third staff with spacers rests when it's not needed and used \RemoveEmptyStaves and Keep_alive_together_engraver to hide it when its empty. The problem is that the first line of the score uses only one staff but *does* display the empty second staff, which Lilypond is hiding along with the third staff because it's empty. Is there a way to force the second staff to be displayed only on the first system? \version 2.16.1 right = \relative c'' { c1 | c | c | c | \break % First line c | c | c | c | \break % Second line c | c | c | c | } left = \relative c' { s1*4 | %First line that I would like to be displayed even though it's empty c1 | c | c | c | c | c | c | c | } leftTwo = \relative c { s1*8 | %First two lines c1 | c | c | c | } \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff = right \right \new Staff = left { \clef bass \left } \new Staff = leftTwo {\clef bass \leftTwo} \layout { \context { \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t } \context { \PianoStaff \remove Keep_alive_together_engraver } } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hiding-one-empty-staff-of-three-staff-piano-score-but-not-two-tp143427.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Half and whole rests with no staff lines
I'm making some rhythm exercises for my piano students with no staff lines (which is the way it is usually done in piano methods). Everything looks fine except for the half and whole rests which don't have the traditional little extra lines above and below them to make them distinguishable. Can anyone point me to a way to add these? \version 2.16.1 \new Staff \relative c'' { \override Staff.Clef #'stencil = ##f \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'stencil = ##f g4 g r2 | r1 | g2 r | \bar |. } Thanks, Michael -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Half-and-whole-rests-with-no-staff-lines-tp143198.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Centering text between keyboard staves along with dynamics
Often, rather than just dynamics (pp) centered between staves, piano music adds a modifier (pp dolce). If I try to add the modifier as a text markup in a dynamic context, the text isn't centered or aligned with the other dynamics. Is there a better way to do this? \version 2.16.1 right = \relative c'' { c2 c | } left = \relative c' { c2 c | } dynam = { s2\mf s-\markup {\dynamic mp \italic dolce} } \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff = right \right \new Dynamics \dynam \new Staff = left { \clef bass \left } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Centering-text-between-keyboard-staves-along-with-dynamics-tp142720.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Removing Rest_engraver or another solution
I'm making theory tests for students, and I'm trying to print a blank staff (except for a clef and bar lines) divided into two, three or four equal measures in which students will draw scales, triads or key signatures. Below each measure will be centered text telling the students what to draw. I first tried using s1 rests, but the text wasn't centered. Switching to R1 centers the text and make the measures equal length, but I can't figure out how to remove the Rest_engraver to make the bar rests disappear. I think what I've got is short enough to post the whole thing: \version 2.16.1 #(set-global-staff-size 30) \paper { line-width = 7.5\in left-margin = 0.5\in ragged-last-bottom = ##f } \score { { R1_\markup { \null \lower #3 C major triad } | R1_\markup { \null \lower #3 G major triad } | R1_\markup { \null \lower #3 F major triad } \break s1 } \layout { indent = 0\in \context { \Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver } \context { \Score \remove Bar_number_engraver } } } Thanks for any help, Michael -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Removing-Rest-engraver-or-another-solution-tp140687.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Removing Rest_engraver or another solution
Ah ha, that does the trick! Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Removing-Rest-engraver-or-another-solution-tp140687p140691.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Requesting an addition
I'll insert a scan of the Haydn ornament from the preface that Alfred includes in its editions of Haydn keyboard works. It looks pretty good to me. http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n139974/Haydn_ornament.jpg -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Requesting-an-addition-tp139819p139974.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Requesting an addition
I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this, but I'd be willing to send somebody some money via Paypal to add the so-called Haydn turn (reversed turn with vertical slash) to Lilypond. There were a couple of posts from 2009 on doing this, but in the current stable version of Lilypond the resulting ornaments are off-center from their notes. Besides, Haydn is a major composer, and this ornament is all over his keyboard works, so I think it should be an official part of Lilypond. I have no idea how much work this would take and what the going rate for a feature like this is. Thanks, Michael Rivers michaeljriv...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Requesting-an-addition-tp139819.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: roman numerals
Sweet! Thank you so much for that code, and thank you to whoever wrote it. Open source is amazing. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/roman-numerals-tp136585p136635.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: roman numerals
It would be very nice if Roman numeral analysis were integrated with figured bass in Lilypond. David's code works very well for chorale textures. However, because durations aren't specified, if the left hand of a piano part, for instance, has 16th note arpeggios but only one harmony, one needs to input \markup \rN {} a huge number of times for each measure. Anyway, now that we know who wrote it the code, thank you, David. Roman numerals were the one thing that made me have to go back to Sibelius, and now I don't have to. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/roman-numerals-tp136585p136670.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: roman numerals
As far as I know, Lilypond doesn't support Roman numeral analysis. I can't find it anywhere in the documentation, at least. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, because I would love to be able to do it. The snippet posted in the original post doesn't work for me. I don't think \rN is a real command. I can't get 2.16.1 to recognize it. I have tried to add Roman numerals to figured bass in Lilypond with \markup commands, but it looks very wrong. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/roman-numerals-tp136585p136632.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: uncentered rests
Use R1 instead of r1. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/uncentered-rests-tp135995p135996.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: One staff, two voices
Also, the Mutopia project (www.mutopiaproject.org/) hosts most of the WTC in lilypond format. You're probably going to need to move that second voice down to the bass clef at some point and then back. Taking a look at the samples at Mutopia helped me quite a bit. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/One-staff-two-voices-tp135429p135447.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cross-staff slur with irregular shape
I'm notating Quatre Poèmes by Guy Ropartz http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/b/b3/IMSLP24553-PMLP55389-Ropartz_-_4_Po__mes__voice_and_piano_.pdf and I would like cross-staff slurs shaped like the ones on the third system of the first page of the edition linked to above. (The slur begins with one shape in the bottom staff and switches to another shape as the notes move to the upper staff.) I apologize if this is in the manual, but I am unable to track it down. -- Michael Rivers -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cross-staff-slur-with-irregular-shape-tp135374.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cross-staff slur with irregular shape
Thank you David. I especially appreciate the example code. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cross-staff-slur-with-irregular-shape-tp135374p135383.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Centering lyrics in piano music for children
Thank you Daniel, Matthew and James. I'll give them all a try. Matthew's method could save me time entering the notes too. In this type of music is doesn't matter which hand plays the middle C -- I'd be happy to let LillyPond make the decision. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Centering-lyrics-in-piano-music-for-children-tp133900p133923.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Centering lyrics in piano music for children
Most beginning children's piano music uses a format with a single-line melody broken between the treble and bass clefs and lyrics written in between. I'm assuming LilyPond doesn't have a way to automatically attach some lyrics to the treble and some to the bass as needed, so I'm trying to do this manually. My two problems are that the bass lyrics are not centered because I don't really understand how staff-centered lyrics work, and that sometimes a hyphenated word needs to be split between two notes, one in the treble and one in the bass. right = \relative c' { c2 c | s1 | c2 e4 f | g1 | } left = \relative c' { \clef bass s1 | g2 g | s1 | s1 | } righttext = \lyricmode { Play pi -- | all day _ | long. } lefttext = \lyricmode { a -- no } \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff = right { \new Voice = rightsinger \right } \new Lyrics \lyricsto rightsinger \righttext \new Staff = left { \new Voice = leftsinger \left } \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = left } \lyricsto leftsinger \lefttext \layout { \context { \GrandStaff \accepts Lyrics } \context { \Lyrics \consists Bar_engraver } } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Centering-lyrics-in-piano-music-for-children-tp133900.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.8
Thank you for all your work on Frescobaldi. I really like the automatic formatting and .pdf preview. It saves me a lot of time. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-0-8-tp132939p133404.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hiding staff without hiding bar lines
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'stencil = ##f That works perfectly. I don't even need to worry about the ledger lines because it's all one one pitch on the staff -- purely a rhythm exercise. It makes sense that stopping the staff entirely would make the bar lines infinitely short; if I wanted a three-line staff, for example, I wouldn't want the bar lines to be five lines tall. Thanks for the help, everyone. Once I've got templates for all my exercises and tests, modifying them should be pretty fast and easy. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hiding-staff-without-hiding-bar-lines-tp131685p131763.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Hiding staff without hiding bar lines
I'm a relatively new LilyPond user, so I apologize if this is something I should have found in the manual. I'm trying to use LilyPond to make worksheets and theory tests, so I need to hide elements for students to fill in themselves. I also need to notate rhythms without a staff. I know that rhythms can be notated on a one-line percussion staff, but I really prefer the look of no staff with full bar lines. I've figured out how to hide clefs, time signatures, bar lines and the entire staff. My problem is that \stopStaff seems to also hide all bar lines. Often, this is what I want, but other times I need the bar lines to be visible. Is there another way to hide the staff, or is there a way to make the bar lines reappear with \stopStaff? -Michael -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Hiding-staff-without-hiding-bar-lines-tp131685.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]
I know this topic changed from Sibelius going belly up to parallelization, but I don't know where else to put it... I'm a current Sibelius user who found Lilypond after panicking a little and a doing quick web search for open source notation software. I don't know how many other users may check out LP, but I love it so far. I just asked my wife to choose among the same piece I printed using Sibelius, the Finale demo, and LP, and she immediately pointed to the LP score and said That one's perfect. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Sibelius-Software-UK-office-shuts-down-tp17227p130605.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user