Re: lilypond GUI editors

2010-06-04 Thread lasconic

MuseScore does not require lilypond but export a file that should be
compatible with lilypond 2.12 via File->Save

Lasconic
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Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> 
> Frescobaldi-1.1.1 requires, correct me if I am wrong, Lilypond 2.13
> 
> But Canorus needs Lilypond 2.12. It displays the wrong fonts (clefs, 
> timesignatures) when I try to use 2.13.
> 
> Why is life so complicated ...
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Re: another route from MIDI to lilypond

2009-09-26 Thread lasconic

Out of curiosity, which software packages did you try?
Did you try MuseScore http://www.musescore.org?

lasconic



Laura Conrad wrote:
> 
>>>>>> "Villum" == Villum Sejersen  writes:
> 
> Villum> Both of you ought to take a look at Jöerg Anders' NtED,
> Villum> which to my experience has good import/export
> Villum> facilities. Both the application and the source code (C++)
> Villum> look very impressive to me.
> 
> A quick test on the same MIDI file as earlier shows that it spells Bb
> wrong, and doesn't correct it if I edit the key signature.  I know
> that's not the only thing wrong with MIDI import routines, but it
> seems like a pretty simple thing to get right, and so far most of the
> ones I've tried this week get it wrong.  Including midi2ly, which
> allegedly does have an option for telling it how to spell Bb, but as
> far as I know that feature has never worked.
> 
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> When I die and there's a memorial service, I want you to go to the
> piano and play _The Man I Love_ in my key. If I don't come out on that
> stage, then you'll know I'm gone.
> 
> Kitty Carlisle Hart, (Quoted at her memorial service, where they did
> in fact play _The Man I Love._)
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Re: Verses and melisma too long

2009-06-15 Thread lasconic

Thank you all for your help. The \markup \null does the trick and it can be
used in timed lyrics. 
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Re: Verses and melisma too long

2009-06-15 Thread lasconic

Thanks for your quick answer. Unfortunatly it does not solve the problem.
Here is the result of your code:
http://www.nabble.com/file/p24032925/proposition-1.png 

The problem is "problem" should be aligned with the second G, above 'sang'.
The space above "drink" should be blank.
So let me reformulate, how can I achieve this ? (tweak with TheGimp)
http://www.nabble.com/file/p24032925/result.png 

Thanks!
Lasconic



Wilbert Berendsen-5 wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The second verse has an extra space.
> When you use associatedVoice, you don't need to set the length of the 
> syllabes. Even better is using \lyricsto:
> 
> \version "2.12.2"
> #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
> 
> melody = 
> {
>   \clef treble
>   \key c \major
>   \time 6/8 
>   r4. r8 e'8 [ c'8 ] |
>   d'16 [  e'16 ] d'4~ d'4.  |
>   r4 g8 g8 [  b8 d'8 ] |
>   e'16 [  d'16 ] c'4~ c'4.  |
> }
> 
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new Voice = "melody" \melody
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" {
>   Just a per -- fect day, __ 
>   drink sang -- ri --   a in the park, __
> }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" {
>   Just a per -- fect day, __
>   pro -- blems all left a -- _ lone. __
> } 
>   >>
> }
> 
> 
> 
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Verses and melisma too long

2009-06-15 Thread lasconic

Hi,
Find attached a small snippet. It's a melody with two verses associated to
it. The two verses have the same lyrics for the first measure and both end
with a melisma on the last note. Then there is a rest and a note. On this
last note only the first verse have a piece of lyrics. The melisma is to
long on the second verse :-/ Here is an image:

http://www.nabble.com/file/p24031368/bug_melisma.png 

Any idea why the melisma is so long on second verse? Why it does not stop on
the rest, just like the first verse? How can I solve it?

Thank you!
Lasconic

The lilypond file (2.12.2) : 
http://www.nabble.com/file/p24031368/bug_melisma.ly bug_melisma.ly 
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Re: Notation Editor with MIDI

2009-06-11 Thread lasconic

Thanks :) 
The lilypond export, although in beta, is a lot more solid than the import,
consider it alpha.
Lilypond syntax is very versatile, making it a powerful tool. But it's hard
to parse as well.



David Stocker wrote:
> 
> While MuseScore's ability to import *.ly files is a nice feature, the 
> greatest thing about its export of *.ly files is the ability to type a 
> score with keyboard and mouse, and then use LilyPond as the typesetter 
> on the exported *.ly file.
> 
> MuseScore is still in beta status. Although its feature set doesn't yet 
> rival Finale and Sibelius, a thorough walk through the menus and dialogs 
> reveals that the groundwork has been laid to make it every bit as 
> feature rich, and more. It's quite a bit buggier than even Finale (which 
> is saying something), but then again, it's still in beta status.
> 
> Their goal--to become the de-facto standard notation program for 
> learning institutions--is ambitious to be sure. It's not clear at this 
> point if it will ever mature into a professional grade engraving tool. 
> Nevertheless, I'm watching with interest...
> 
> David
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Re: Improvisor lilypond support!?

2009-06-11 Thread lasconic


I took some time yesterday night to take a look to improvisor code and
estimate the cost of adding musicXML export. Import is indeed more
complicated.
I downloaded the code of improvisor 3.39. It's the last and only code
available. Improvisor inner model is a little bit different than musicXML
one. Common practice in musicXML is to don't "time" the chords and put them
in the middle of notes. At least, this is my experience with finale musicXML
export features. 
I managed to make a quick and dirty prototype to export a simple melody (no
tuplet) and chord root and bass (no extension yet). Chords are in between
notes but lily+musicML2ly shoud be able to deal with it. Unfortunately, 3.39
is an old version, and according to Bob Keller the code base changed a lot
but it's not public yet.  
With some more voices, perhaps we can convince Bob Keller and his team to
open up the repository to the public. After all, improvisor is a fine piece
of software which can benefit from open development, moreover if time and
resources are an issue.

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Re: Notation Editor with MIDI

2009-06-10 Thread lasconic

Musescore is available for windows ;) It provides lilypond export (to be
improve). You can change time signature every measure and it's free GPL. It
may beat notepad :
http://www.musescore.org/en/comparing-musescore-and-finale-notepad-feature-feature
but of course not compete with lilypond for flexibility.


Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Once I had very little time to produce a score, so gave a chance to 
> Finale Notepad (it was free then).
> Then I realized I need to change the time signature in the middle of the 
> piece. And Finale Notepad didn't allow.
> 
> Actually I give a chance to Linux every year (thanks to the Live CD-s it 
> is easy now), but I always have problems with drivers (like now with the 
> very unstable support for Asus EEE). That's why I'm sticked to Windows.
> 
> Bert
> 
> lasconic wrote:
>>
>> Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
>>   
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:09:45AM +0200, Helge Kruse wrote:
>>> And if you don't mind waisting 10 dollar you 
>>> could download and install Finale Notepad. But you don't want that after 
>>> you have worked with Lilypond for some time ;-)
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Even if you have worked with MuseScore only! Better go to a concert, or
>> give
>> money to open source fondation :)
>>   
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Re: Notation Editor with MIDI

2009-06-10 Thread lasconic



Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:09:45AM +0200, Helge Kruse wrote:
> And if you don't mind waisting 10 dollar you 
> could download and install Finale Notepad. But you don't want that after 
> you have worked with Lilypond for some time ;-)
> 

Even if you have worked with MuseScore only! Better go to a concert, or give
money to open source fondation :)
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Re: "Missing" jazz chord modifiers

2009-06-09 Thread lasconic

maybe bass ?
for removing third and fifth and keeping the root only?


Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
> 
> In our discussion about chord names, Jean-Alexis pointed out that we are
> probably missing some modifiers in our chord mode input.  He pointed out
> one
> example:
> 
> alt: 7.3-.5-.9-.11-.13-
> 
> What are some other modifiers that should be added, in your opinion?
> Remember that m7b5 doesn't qualify as a modifier, because modifiers must
> be
> only alphabetic.  halfdim could qualify as a modifier.
> 
> Please let me know what modifiers you'd like to have, as well as the
> pitches
> that the modifier should produce, and we'll see if they can be added.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carl
> 
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Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread lasconic

Hi, 
Just in case it can be helpful, someone (Karl) post a pdf he wrote on
MuseScore (http://www.musescore.org) mailing list about chord name display.
Musescore is a free GPL WYSIWYG scorewriter (with lilypond export
capabilities)
Maybe it can be helpful to your current and future work on chord names
engraving for light music. Here is the discussion thread: 
http://n2.nabble.com/Setting-file-associations-for-Windows-td2729864i20.html#a2859233

Here is the link to the pdf : 
http://www.njonjo.net/chordfonts/chordfonts.pdf

HIH
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Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-02 Thread lasconic


For sure, a musical jazz font will be very useful! There a couple of threads
in the mailing list about this.


rosea wrote:
> 
> Nice to read this thread.
> I'm wondering what about more modern or 'light' music, like POP and 
> Jazz? How does it compare in this area? And what should be and can be 
> done to improve Lilypond here? There where some threads about Jazz 
> chords, will they be improved for example? And the horizontal spacing? I 
> know people are working on tablature which is nice and I think Lilyond 
> could become a very useful application for tablature 'notesetters'.
> 
> Looking forward to comments.
> 
> \r
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Re: Parenthesizing chord names

2009-03-02 Thread lasconic

That's great! Thanks a lot!

Just a question, do you think it's possible to have left/right as a param
instead of defining a scheme function for each one ? For example, you might
want to have more option like use [ instead of ( and then you need to create
two others functions and new LBC/RBC and it seems easier to have something
like this in chord mode.

\set chordNameFunction = #my-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names
\set bracket= "round"
\set bracket-dir = "left"

And a scheme function with some if /then/else statements. You see what I
mean ?



Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This may be the easiest solution?
> 
> \version "2.12.2"
> 
> #(define (left-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass  
> inversion context)
> (markup #:line ("( " (ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion  
> context
> 
> #(define (right-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass  
> inversion context)
> (markup #:line ((ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion  
> context) " )")))
> 
> LPC = { \set chordNameFunction = #left-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord- 
> names }
> RPC = { \set chordNameFunction = #right-parenthesis-ignatzek-chord- 
> names }
> NPC = { \unset chordNameFunction }
> 
> chordset = \chordmode
> {
>c1:7 g1:7
>\LPC a1:7 \NPC f1:7
>c1:7 \RPC g1:7 \NPC
>c1:7 g1:7
> }
> 
> \score
> {
>\new ChordNames \chordset
> }
> 
> Hope this helps!
> Kieren.
> 
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Re: Canorus

2009-02-27 Thread lasconic

You can also try MuseScore on Windows and Linux. The lilypond output is
decent and the community is very alive. The development team is quite
responsive as well.

http://www.musescore.org

Btw, can Musescore be added to the FAQ ?

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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread lasconic


Laura Conrad wrote:
> 
> The most obvious thing wrong with the note entry is that each measure
> has a comment "% measure 1".  If it had the actual measure number it
> would be useful.
> Actually it's easier than that -- I just said "apt-get install
> mscore". 
> 

It looks like you find a bug. Regarding apt-get, you will have the last
stable version 0.9.3 I think.
If the bug is too annoying, you can try a prerelease :
http://www.musescore.org/en/download
It should be corrected. If not, feel free to submit a bug report.


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Re: midi keyboard input

2008-12-31 Thread lasconic

Another way is to use MuseScore : http://www.musescore.org
Lilypond output is quite beta for the moment, but to get the pitches it
should be ok I guess. 
MIDI input is working on windows and linux.
You can even use a prerelease for ubuntu :
http://prereleases.musescore.org/linux/





M Watts wrote:
> 
> Laura Conrad wrote:
>> (This is in Ubuntu 8.10 linux.)
>>
>> I can use midi-input-mode in emacs to enter lilypond notes with my
>> left hand, and the durations on the numeric keypad with my right hand.
>>
>> I can set up qsynth with jackd so that I get audio for the notes I
>> play on the MIDI keyboard.
>>
>> But if I have the notes set up to sound, they don't get into the emacs
>> buffer, and vice versa.
>>
>> I have done some playing with qjackctl and midi-thru and such, and
>> have not stumbled on a solution that would allow me to both see the
>> lilypond in the emacs buffer and hear the notes I play.
>>
>> Can anyone give me a hint?
>>   
> Is midi-input-mode aware of jack?   Sounds (no pun intended) like you 
> need the emacs mode to create a midi input port so that you can connect 
> your midi keyboard to it via jack, as well as to qsynth.
> 
> Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode) 
> from linux-sound.org is dead http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/
>> I know there are several other ways to use a MIDI keyboard for
>> lilypond input; I have tried some of the others, and this was the
>> first one I managed to get working.  If nobody knows the answer to
>> this specific question, but does have some other way to use a MIDI
>> keyboard to both see lilypond and hear audio output, I'd be glad to
>> hear about specifics.
>>   
> There's always rosegarden, the all-singing, all-dancing midi sequencer, 
> which includes lilypond output, both as .ly and .pdf -- it should be in 
> Ubuntu repositories.
> 
> Rosegarden's lilypond output is usually better than the hamfisted method 
> of recording a midi file with a non-lilypond aware app, and processing 
> the file with midi2ly.
> 
> Hydrogen (drum machine) also includes lilypond output.
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Re: feta.ttf?

2008-10-25 Thread lasconic

If you are just interested by the font and a WYSIWYG editor, you should try
musescore. If I'm not wrong this GNU program uses Feta/Emmentaler. It's not
Finale but it's free ;)
Of course, you'll not have all the feature set of lilypond.

Lasconic


Albert Frantz-2 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone by chance made a TTF version of the beautiful Feta font? It
> would be
> wonderful to be able to use this font with other programs such as Finale.
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Albert
> 
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Re: Chord spacing issues in 2.11 series

2008-08-05 Thread lasconic

I follow Joe Neeman's advice and it does the trick for me !
The manual for extra-spacing-width is here :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Outside-staff-objects

I just added : 
\layout {
\context { 
   \ChordNames 
   \override ChordName #'extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 0.5)

}
  }

Lasconic



Shamus-3 wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Joe Neeman wrote:
> | Try overriding the extra-spacing-width property on the ChordName grob
> | (the extra-spacing-width property is part of the item-interface, which
> | is supported by ChordName).
> |
> | You could also try overriding the padding property of the SeparationItem
> | grob.
> |
> | By the way, if you attach a small example that demonstrates the problem,
> | it becomes easier to help because I can test to see if my suggestions
> | fix the problem.
> |
> | Joe
> 
> Here you go. Look at measures 1-2. The example is contrived, but I've
> had situations similar to this arise quite often. The chords are too
> close together for comfortable reading, especially for nearly geriatric
> musicians like myself. Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Warmest regards,
> - -- Shamus
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> 
> % Pop chords as used in English/American popular music
> % by James L. Hammons
> 
> % Written against \version "2.8.2"
> 
> chordFlat = \markup { \hspace #0.2 \tiny \raise #1.0 \flat }
> chordSharp = \markup { \hspace #0.1 \teeny \raise #1.0 \sharp }
> 
> popChordsMusic =
> {
>   % Triads
> 
>   -\markup { "5" }
>   -\markup { "2" }
> % -\markup { "sus2" }
>   -\markup { "sus" }
> % -\markup { "sus4" }
> % -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 "o" }
>   -\markup { \raise #0.8 "o" }
> % -\markup { "dim" }
> % -\markup { "aug" } 
> % or +
> 
>   % Sixths
> 
>   -\markup { "6" }
>   -\markup { "m6" }
> 
>   % Sevenths (including altered)
> 
>   -\markup { "7" }
>   -\markup { "m7" }
>   -\markup { "maj7" }
>   -\markup { "7sus4" }
>   -\markup { "7sus2" }
>   -\markup { "7" \chordFlat "5" }
>   -\markup { "7" \chordSharp "5" }
> % -\markup { "aug7" }
> % or +7
>   -\markup { "m(maj7)" }
> % -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 { "o" } "7" }
>   -\markup { \raise #0.8 { "o" } "7" }
> % -\markup { "dim7" }
> % -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 { #(ly:export
> (ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x00f8)) } "7" }
> % -\markup { \raise #0.8 { #(ly:export (ly:wide-char->utf-8
> #x00f8)) } "7" }
>   -\markup { "m7" \chordFlat "5" }
>   -\markup { "maj7" \chordFlat "5" }
>   -\markup { "maj7" \chordSharp "5" }
> 
>   % Ninths (including altered--incomplete)
> 
>   -\markup { "9" }
>   -\markup { "m9" }
>   -\markup { "maj9" }
>   -\markup { "add9" }
>   -\markup { "6/9" }
>   -\markup { "m6/9" }
>   -\markup { "m(maj9)" }
>   -\markup { "7" \chordFlat "9" }
>   -\markup { "7" \chordSharp "9" }
> %dim7add9, dim7b9, dim7#9, 9#5, 9b5, maj9#5, maj9b5, 9sus4, 9sus2
> 
>   % Elevenths (incomplete)
> 
>   -\markup { "11" }
>   -\markup { "m11" }
>   -\markup { "maj11" }
>   -\markup { "add11" }
>   -\markup { "m add11" }
>   -\markup { "m7add11" }
> 
>   % Thirteenths (incomplete)
> 
>   -\markup { "13" }
>   -\markup { "m13" }
>   -\markup { "maj13" }
>   -\markup { "add13" }
> 
>   % Misc add chords
> 
>   -\markup { "7" \chordFlat "9" \chordFlat "13" }
>   -\markup { "7" \chordSharp "5" \chordFlat "9" }
>   -\markup { "maj

How to avoid long chord names to collide [screenshot]

2008-04-21 Thread lasconic

Hi all !
I use a chordexception list with some chords a little bit long, Cmin(b9) for
example. On a sheet, it may happen that those long chord names are
colliding. Is there a way of avoid chordname collision and make the measure
stretch ? (of course, break is not a solution, I want lily to do it by
itself, bad habit :-))

Thks.
Lasconic

Attached : ly example + PNG file of the collision
http://www.nabble.com/file/p16806111/chordcollision.png chordcollision.png 
http://www.nabble.com/file/p16806111/ex.ly ex.ly 
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Re: chord name size

2008-04-15 Thread lasconic

Hi ! 
I also try to stack tensions and I want to put round bracket around the
stack[1]. Do you use this notation too ? I don't manage to print the round
bracket :-( I'm curious about your exception list :) Do you mind sharing it
?

Thks ! 
Lasconic

[1] http://www.nabble.com/stacked-markup-with-parenthesis-td16677616.html
[*] an example of what I want to achieve : 
http://www.nabble.com/file/p16700138/chord.png 




Brett Duncan-2 wrote:
> 
> Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
> For scores that I want to have that "well-finished" look (in other
> words, that I'll be distributing to others), I also reduce the font size
> for chords, but for cheat sheets etc., I agree with Rick - bigger is
> better. I also use an exceptions list for chord names which sets the
> size and position of accidentals to what I like (the default chord
> naming in LP needs to revised IM0) but I hadn't thought of stacking
> tensions - thanks for mentioning it Rick!
> 
> Brett
> 
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stacked markup with parenthesis

2008-04-14 Thread lasconic

Hi all !
I'm looking for a way to display a text on several lines with parenthesis
around the line (no bracket, round parenthesis). I tried \columns and
\center-align. That's ok to stack texts but how can I put parenthesis around
? (like \bracket does for squared bracket).
Thks a lot !

Example : 

 /\
|  A  |
|  B  |
 \/
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