Re: Better way to get correct slur shapes?

2018-02-17 Thread Simon Albrecht 

On 17.02.2018 17:38, Stefano Troncaro wrote:

Hi Knute, Simon,

A little question if you don't mind, what is the override to 
NoteColumn.ignore-collision for? I took it out of your example and I 
don't see a difference in the results.


Hmmm, that’s just something I habitually insert whenever I use 
\hideNotes, since sometimes the hidden notes will still distort spacing. 
I didn’t check for this here.


Best, Simon



2018-02-16 10:21 GMT-03:00 Knute Snortum >:


Thanks Simon, that's a great tool.

I changed the function just a bit so that the stems of the eighth
notes in the lower voices aren't so long:


dummy =
#(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
   #{
     \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
     \voiceTwo
     \once \omit Stem
     \once \omit Flag
     $mus
     \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
     \voiceOne
   #})



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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Simon Albrecht
mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de>> wrote:

Hi Knute,

how about this?


\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"

dummy =
#(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
   #{
 \hideNotes
 \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
 \voiceTwo
 $mus
 \unHideNotes
 \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
 \voiceOne
   #})

\relative {
  \time 6/8
  \key g \minor

  r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy f,8) } \\ { af8 f } >>

  r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy g,8) } \\ { bf8 g } >> |
}
%%

I think, the slur shapes Lily chooses there are quite neat.

Best, Simon



On 15.02.2018 18:02, Knute Snortum wrote:

I am hoping to get some feedback from the power LilyPond
users on this list.

I have a slurring problem that's not terribly difficult to
solve, but I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it.
Here's my example:

%%%
\version "2.19"
\language "english"

slurShapeA = \shape #'((0.75 . 2) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.33 . 1)
(0.25 . 0)) \etc

\relative {
  \time 6/8
  \key g \minor
  % Could something like this work?
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { af8 f } \\ { \voiceTwo
\hideNotes f'8 ^( f, ) } >>
  % This works, but it's tedious and brittle
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { bf8 -\slurShapeA ^( g ) } >> |
}
%%%

In the piece I'm engraving there are dozens of this kind
of slurs.  In the second half of the measure, I've used
the \shape function to modify the slur between the two
eighth notes to look like it starts at the quarter note in
the other voice. I can do it this way, but it will take
dozens of shapes, all controlled manually.  This is a
tedious and brittle solution, because any change in the
page layout that affects how the measures are spaced may
change all the slur shapes (like switching from letter
size to A4).

So I was hoping I could use some hidden notes in a third
voice to make the slur, but as you can see from the first
half of the measure, it's not going very well.  Can this
or some other solution work?

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Re: Better way to get correct slur shapes?

2018-02-17 Thread Stefano Troncaro 
Hi Knute, Simon,

A little question if you don't mind, what is the override to
NoteColumn.ignore-collision for? I took it out of your example and I don't
see a difference in the results.

2018-02-16 10:21 GMT-03:00 Knute Snortum :

> Thanks Simon, that's a great tool.
>
> I changed the function just a bit so that the stems of the eighth notes in
> the lower voices aren't so long:
>
> 
> dummy =
> #(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
>#{
>  \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
>  \voiceTwo
>  \once \omit Stem
>  \once \omit Flag
>  $mus
>  \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
>  \voiceOne
>#})
> 
>
>
> ---
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Simon Albrecht 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Knute,
>>
>> how about this?
>>
>> 
>> \version "2.19.80"
>> \language "english"
>>
>> dummy =
>> #(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
>>#{
>>  \hideNotes
>>  \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
>>  \voiceTwo
>>  $mus
>>  \unHideNotes
>>  \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
>>  \voiceOne
>>#})
>>
>> \relative {
>>   \time 6/8
>>   \key g \minor
>>
>>   r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy f,8) } \\ { af8 f } >>
>>
>>   r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy g,8) } \\ { bf8 g } >> |
>> }
>> %%
>>
>> I think, the slur shapes Lily chooses there are quite neat.
>>
>> Best, Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15.02.2018 18:02, Knute Snortum wrote:
>>
>>> I am hoping to get some feedback from the power LilyPond users on this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> I have a slurring problem that's not terribly difficult to solve, but
>>> I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it. Here's my example:
>>>
>>> %%%
>>> \version "2.19"
>>> \language "english"
>>>
>>> slurShapeA = \shape #'((0.75 . 2) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.33 . 1) (0.25 . 0)) \etc
>>>
>>> \relative {
>>>   \time 6/8
>>>   \key g \minor
>>>   % Could something like this work?
>>>   r8 << { 4 } \\ { af8 f } \\ { \voiceTwo \hideNotes f'8 ^( f, )
>>> } >>
>>>   % This works, but it's tedious and brittle
>>>   r8 << { 4 } \\ { bf8 -\slurShapeA ^( g ) } >> |
>>> }
>>> %%%
>>>
>>> In the piece I'm engraving there are dozens of this kind of slurs.  In
>>> the second half of the measure, I've used the \shape function to modify the
>>> slur between the two eighth notes to look like it starts at the quarter
>>> note in the other voice. I can do it this way, but it will take dozens of
>>> shapes, all controlled manually.  This is a tedious and brittle solution,
>>> because any change in the page layout that affects how the measures are
>>> spaced may change all the slur shapes (like switching from letter size to
>>> A4).
>>>
>>> So I was hoping I could use some hidden notes in a third voice to make
>>> the slur, but as you can see from the first half of the measure, it's not
>>> going very well.  Can this or some other solution work?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Knute Snortum
>>> (via Gmail)
>>>
>>>
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Re: Better way to get correct slur shapes?

2018-02-16 Thread Knute Snortum 
Thanks Simon, that's a great tool.

I changed the function just a bit so that the stems of the eighth notes in
the lower voices aren't so long:


dummy =
#(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
   #{
 \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
 \voiceTwo
 \once \omit Stem
 \once \omit Flag
 $mus
 \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
 \voiceOne
   #})



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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

> Hi Knute,
>
> how about this?
>
> 
> \version "2.19.80"
> \language "english"
>
> dummy =
> #(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
>#{
>  \hideNotes
>  \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
>  \voiceTwo
>  $mus
>  \unHideNotes
>  \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
>  \voiceOne
>#})
>
> \relative {
>   \time 6/8
>   \key g \minor
>
>   r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy f,8) } \\ { af8 f } >>
>
>   r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy g,8) } \\ { bf8 g } >> |
> }
> %%
>
> I think, the slur shapes Lily chooses there are quite neat.
>
> Best, Simon
>
>
>
> On 15.02.2018 18:02, Knute Snortum wrote:
>
>> I am hoping to get some feedback from the power LilyPond users on this
>> list.
>>
>> I have a slurring problem that's not terribly difficult to solve, but I'm
>> wondering if there's a better way to do it. Here's my example:
>>
>> %%%
>> \version "2.19"
>> \language "english"
>>
>> slurShapeA = \shape #'((0.75 . 2) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.33 . 1) (0.25 . 0)) \etc
>>
>> \relative {
>>   \time 6/8
>>   \key g \minor
>>   % Could something like this work?
>>   r8 << { 4 } \\ { af8 f } \\ { \voiceTwo \hideNotes f'8 ^( f, )
>> } >>
>>   % This works, but it's tedious and brittle
>>   r8 << { 4 } \\ { bf8 -\slurShapeA ^( g ) } >> |
>> }
>> %%%
>>
>> In the piece I'm engraving there are dozens of this kind of slurs.  In
>> the second half of the measure, I've used the \shape function to modify the
>> slur between the two eighth notes to look like it starts at the quarter
>> note in the other voice. I can do it this way, but it will take dozens of
>> shapes, all controlled manually.  This is a tedious and brittle solution,
>> because any change in the page layout that affects how the measures are
>> spaced may change all the slur shapes (like switching from letter size to
>> A4).
>>
>> So I was hoping I could use some hidden notes in a third voice to make
>> the slur, but as you can see from the first half of the measure, it's not
>> going very well.  Can this or some other solution work?
>>
>> ---
>> Knute Snortum
>> (via Gmail)
>>
>>
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Re: Better way to get correct slur shapes?

2018-02-15 Thread Simon Albrecht 

Hi Knute,

how about this?


\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"

dummy =
#(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
   #{
 \hideNotes
 \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
 \voiceTwo
 $mus
 \unHideNotes
 \revert NoteColumn.ignore-collision
 \voiceOne
   #})

\relative {
  \time 6/8
  \key g \minor

  r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy f,8) } \\ { af8 f } >>

  r8 << { 4*1/2( \dummy g,8) } \\ { bf8 g } >> |
}
%%

I think, the slur shapes Lily chooses there are quite neat.

Best, Simon


On 15.02.2018 18:02, Knute Snortum wrote:
I am hoping to get some feedback from the power LilyPond users on this 
list.


I have a slurring problem that's not terribly difficult to solve, but 
I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it. Here's my example:


%%%
\version "2.19"
\language "english"

slurShapeA = \shape #'((0.75 . 2) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.33 . 1) (0.25 . 0)) \etc

\relative {
  \time 6/8
  \key g \minor
  % Could something like this work?
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { af8 f } \\ { \voiceTwo \hideNotes f'8 ^( f, 
) } >>

  % This works, but it's tedious and brittle
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { bf8 -\slurShapeA ^( g ) } >> |
}
%%%

In the piece I'm engraving there are dozens of this kind of slurs.  In 
the second half of the measure, I've used the \shape function to 
modify the slur between the two eighth notes to look like it starts at 
the quarter note in the other voice. I can do it this way, but it will 
take dozens of shapes, all controlled manually.  This is a tedious and 
brittle solution, because any change in the page layout that affects 
how the measures are spaced may change all the slur shapes (like 
switching from letter size to A4).


So I was hoping I could use some hidden notes in a third voice to make 
the slur, but as you can see from the first half of the measure, it's 
not going very well.  Can this or some other solution work?


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Better way to get correct slur shapes?

2018-02-15 Thread Knute Snortum 
I am hoping to get some feedback from the power LilyPond users on this list.

I have a slurring problem that's not terribly difficult to solve, but I'm
wondering if there's a better way to do it.  Here's my example:

%%%
\version "2.19"
\language "english"

slurShapeA = \shape #'((0.75 . 2) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.33 . 1) (0.25 . 0)) \etc

\relative {
  \time 6/8
  \key g \minor

  % Could something like this work?
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { af8 f } \\ { \voiceTwo \hideNotes f'8 ^( f, ) }
>>

  % This works, but it's tedious and brittle
  r8 << { 4 } \\ { bf8 -\slurShapeA ^( g ) } >> |
}
%%%

In the piece I'm engraving there are dozens of this kind of slurs.  In the
second half of the measure, I've used the \shape function to modify the
slur between the two eighth notes to look like it starts at the quarter
note in the other voice.  I can do it this way, but it will take dozens of
shapes, all controlled manually.  This is a tedious and brittle solution,
because any change in the page layout that affects how the measures are
spaced may change all the slur shapes (like switching from letter size to
A4).

So I was hoping I could use some hidden notes in a third voice to make the
slur, but as you can see from the first half of the measure, it's not going
very well.  Can this or some other solution work?

---
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(via Gmail)
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