Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Bertalan Fodor schrieb: I don't want to be too confident, but as far as I know, the editor with the most features is jEdit with its LilyPondTool plugin. :-) I don't what the definition of an IDE is, but the most complete one is LilyPondTool for sure. I feel the automatic completion and document wizard a must for beginners. However you get an indexed LilyPond documentation, syntax coloring out-of-the-box, code folding, brace matching, instant help on markup commands, some simple error checking (like unclosed braces), and much more: hyphenation, midi player, tweaking wizard, repeats etc. Convince yourself with http://web.interware.hu/fodber/lilytut Bert Hello Bert, thank you for your message about jEdit! Your Link was very interesting and illustrative. Wonderful the assistent to write some settings before starting the source code. That feature is not in context, you are right. But I don't need that feature realy. When I start to write a new piece I load a usable template with the most needed entrys and edit their values in the text. I tried jEdit before I knew context. I was not pleased with that program, it was to gaudy and the frame looked oversized for me. Now I am no more shure, but I think it was a bit slowly too). The language of jEdit is only in english (I like to work with my mother-language germany) and I missed shortcuts like (A)lt - (D)atei - (ö)ffnen. (I hope your e-mail-reader finds the oe-char). :-) Can jEdit call lilypond, midi and other functions with a shortcut or only with menü (like the demo-link showed)? I like to work with shortcuts but a menü should be there alternative (to remember my forgotten shortcuts and for recreation the brain). :-) I don't want you all to leave your favorite editors. But I can say, context is an editor that cooperates very well with lilypond, is quick and easy to use. Best wishes (to write good music) to you and all the others :-) Uli Heller ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Nicolas Sceaux schrieb: Oh please... Emacs has menus. Emacs has windows-like keyboard shortcuts if you like. You can delete a character with backspace. You can compile a LilyPond file, see the PDF score or play the midi file with shortcuts (or via the menus) without leaving the source code. Thank you for that information. I see, late versions of Emacs are alright and I will try this historic editor when I work on a linux machine. For windows, context has all I need. Kind regards Uli Heller ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Well, easy-to-use and many features are conflicting with each other :-) JEdit and LilyPondTool tends to be on the many features side. I can admit. Shortcuts are supported in a very general way. However, if one needs autocompletion, because he cannot remember all the properties of a grob, or does not like browsing the doc all the time, or just hates typing, he may find jEdit the best :-) Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Uli Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Emacs has many own commands and very less commands who are windows-conform. All this specific commands you have to drill in your head, there is no graphical menü (when I am right). [...] There you read that you cannot delete a written character with the backspace-key. An old typewriter could do that and every other editor around me does that. I don't want to miss this and such similarly features. Context has menus and you can take shortcuts as well. The commands are conform for windows-users (File open, close, cut and paste, delete and so on). Context is small and quick. I think context has all you need to handle with lilypond. IF you know Emacs it is alright when you use it. But can Emacs switch with one shortcut to the PDF- and with another shortcut to the midi-file without saving and leaving the source code (like context can)? Oh please... Emacs has menus. Emacs has windows-like keyboard shortcuts if you like. You can delete a character with backspace. You can compile a LilyPond file, see the PDF score or play the midi file with shortcuts (or via the menus) without leaving the source code. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Uli Heller writes: I found a wonderful editor to write and performe Lilypond in Windows-Systems. He is called Context and can be found at: http://www.context.cx/ That's great. I think Context is a wonderful alternative to the complicated editors emacs and vim. Have you actually tried a recent version of Emacs lately? What things do you find complicated? Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
I think Context is a wonderful alternative to the complicated editors emacs and vim. I am blind or utf-8 is not supported :-( http://forum.context.cx/index.php?topic=678.0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Hello Jan, Jan Nieuwenhuizen schrieb: Have you actually tried a recent version of Emacs lately? What things do you find complicated? No, I haven't tried any version of Emacs. But I read about it. Emacs may be a powerful editor of course, but when you start first with it, you have to study tutorials and read many other helps. Emacs has many own commands and very less commands who are windows-conform. All this specific commands you have to drill in your head, there is no graphical menü (when I am right). An introduction (in german language) I found at http://www-pool.math.tu-berlin.de/doc/emacs/emacsintro.html There you read that you cannot delete a written character with the backspace-key. An old typewriter could do that and every other editor around me does that. I don't want to miss this and such similarly features. Context has menus and you can take shortcuts as well. The commands are conform for windows-users (File open, close, cut and paste, delete and so on). Context is small and quick. I think context has all you need to handle with lilypond. IF you know Emacs it is alright when you use it. But can Emacs switch with one shortcut to the PDF- and with another shortcut to the midi-file without saving and leaving the source code (like context can)? I began to write a context-highlighter for lilypond source code. (You can choose 5 different colors for better reading special commands). It works well. But I am new in lilypond and only a few commands I have manually picked up to now. If somebody is interested, I can post the highlighter file here (as a text-file and as it is at the moment). martial wrote: I am blind or utf-8 is not supported Hello martial, Context supports UTF8, see it's homepage: http://context.cx/content/view/18/41/ Yours sincerely Uli ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
martial martial at cathemline.org writes: I think Context is a wonderful alternative to the complicated editors emacs and vim. I am blind or utf-8 is not supported http://forum.context.cx/index.php?topic=678.0 Though (relatively) new to LilyPond, I have used ConTEXT for some time, and can recommend it. As mentioned in the first post, it makes a great IDE for LilyPond on Windows. You can compile your scripts, view the PDF's, play the MIDI's and even summon LilyPond help files, all from within ConTEXT. Syntax highlighting is easy to set up (the hardest part is typing in all the keywords). :) Unfortuneatly, UTF-8 is not supported. (A new version of ConTEXT is pending, but it not yet clear whether this new version will support UTF-8.) I ran into problems with this lack of UTF-8 support when trying to insert the copyright symbol into the copyright notice. Of course, LilyPond needs UTF-8 to encode non-ASCII characters. I got around this by using a UTF-8-aware editor to enter the copyright symbol, then saving my script in UTF-8 format. ConTEXT will load, edit and save these UTF-8 files just fine (they'll even appear as UTF-8 in the status bar). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:27:38PM +, Brian Haddon wrote: martial martial at cathemline.org writes: I think Context is a wonderful alternative to the complicated editors emacs and vim. I am blind or utf-8 is not supported http://forum.context.cx/index.php?topic=678.0 Though (relatively) new to LilyPond, I have used ConTEXT for some time, and can recommend it. As mentioned in the first post, it makes a great IDE for LilyPond on Windows. You can compile your scripts, view the PDF's, play the MIDI's and even summon LilyPond help files, all from within ConTEXT. Syntax highlighting is easy to set up (the hardest part is typing in all the keywords). :) my xemacs does all this already. And _much_ more. I too am _very_ new to lilypond. Joe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
I don't want to be too confident, but as far as I know, the editor with the most features is jEdit with its LilyPondTool plugin. :-) I don't what the definition of an IDE is, but the most complete one is LilyPondTool for sure. I feel the automatic completion and document wizard a must for beginners. However you get an indexed LilyPond documentation, syntax coloring out-of-the-box, code folding, brace matching, instant help on markup commands, some simple error checking (like unclosed braces), and much more: hyphenation, midi player, tweaking wizard, repeats etc. Convince yourself with http://web.interware.hu/fodber/lilytut Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
I am blind or utf-8 is not supported Context supports UTF8, see it's homepage: http://context.cx/content/view/18/41/ Thanks but I don't see where I can save the file in utf-8. Either not accent or not compiled when I convert in unicode ! It is not important for me, I use now Crimson Edit for Lilypond; color syntaxique Lilypond..etc. Same Context but with accent compiled ! regards ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Context - A recommendable Windows-Editor for Lilypond
Hello Lilypond-Friends, I found a wonderful editor to write and performe Lilypond in Windows-Systems. He is called Context and can be found at: http://www.context.cx/ Context is a relative new programmers editor and freeware. The advantages are 1. You can use the known Windows-Shortcuts to work (not all editors do that) 2. You can write an own highlightersyntax-file to highlight the Lilypond-commands 3. You can launch Lilypond from the editor with function keys, means, you can make your PDF and start the midi-file 4. When launching you have a control window to see mistakes and you can correct them pronto in the named line. If you want to launch your program, go to Options, Environment and Execute Keys. Push ADD and write in the popup-entryfield the ending ly. Then mark a function key (like F9) and write in the entryfield Execute your lilypond path and a following %n. May be this is your entry: D:\music\lilypond\usr\bin\lilypond.exe %n Make a tick in Capture Console output to have a compilercontrol in your editorwindow. The percent-entry behind lilypond.exe calls your loaded programm. You don't need to save your last writings (but the filename must exist). With another function key you can call another program. Mark another function key and write in the Execute-Entryfield: %F.pdf (calls your PDF-Reader and loads ) %F.midi (calls your Midi-Player) That's all. If you compile, you push F9. If you want to see your notes, you only push your defined function keys to see and hear your composing results. With ALT+TAB you are back in your editor and you can go on without leaving and new loading your ly-file. I think Context is a wonderful alternative to the complicated editors emacs and vim. And I think of course, lilypond is a wonderful program and has wonderful creative developers! Thanks and greetings from germany! Uli Heller ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
