Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: David Kastrup wrote Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. If my message reached you like this then indeed it is. On my side, via the nabble web interface, it looks fine though. Web interfaces are somewhat treacherous. Gmane.org seems to be more reliable. I'll just post a screenshot and try to make it clearer. 2013-12-13_154458.png lt;http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n155723/2013-12-13_154458.pnggt; Well, an afterthought: you could probably define uppercase letters to be a quartertone (or less) sharp, and then postprocess your music, turning all of those back to normal pitch and adding the top octave. If you do the unsharpening/octavation in the toplevel-music-functions hook, it will actually happen at a time when all \relative music has already been turned into absolute music, so that would not interfere. That's an interesting idea, I'll definitely try it, thanks! What exactly do you mean by toplevel? Are these functions defined or applied differently than regular music functions? toplevel-music-functions is a central hook containing a list of Scheme functions that are applied when scorify-music is called. I think the arguments they receive is the parser and music, and they return music again. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Thanks, I got it working. I have to rethink the use of capital letters though since it conflicts with expressions like \clef F. Also at this point I simply extended my language of choice in define-note-names.scm, but I suppose I could simply append a new language-definition to language-pitch-names?! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705p155830.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: Thanks, I got it working. I have to rethink the use of capital letters though since it conflicts with expressions like \clef F. Just write \clef F and you'll be fine. It's recommended anyway since things like \clef violin_8 don't work otherwise. Also at this point I simply extended my language of choice in define-note-names.scm, but I suppose I could simply append a new language-definition to language-pitch-names?! You'd probably not want to mess with LilyPond's files themselves but rather put your definitions in a separate file you include, or you'll get into all sorts of surprises when trying to exchange documents with other people. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: David Kastrup wrote Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. If my message reached you like this then indeed it is. On my side, via the nabble web interface, it looks fine though. Web interfaces are somewhat treacherous. Gmane.org seems to be more reliable. I'll just post a screenshot and try to make it clearer. 2013-12-13_154458.png lt;http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n155723/2013-12-13_154458.pnggt; Well, an afterthought: you could probably define uppercase letters to be a quartertone (or less) sharp, and then postprocess your music, turning all of those back to normal pitch and adding the top octave. If you do the unsharpening/octavation in the toplevel-music-functions hook, it will actually happen at a time when all \relative music has already been turned into absolute music, so that would not interfere. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user That's an interesting idea, I'll definitely try it, thanks! What exactly do you mean by toplevel? Are these functions defined or applied differently than regular music functions? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705p155770.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: David Kastrup wrote Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. If my message reached you like this then indeed it is. On my side, via the nabble web interface, it looks fine though. Web interfaces are somewhat treacherous. Gmane.org seems to be more reliable. I'll just post a screenshot and try to make it clearer. 2013-12-13_154458.png lt;http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n155723/2013-12-13_154458.pnggt; Well, an afterthought: you could probably define uppercase letters to be a quartertone (or less) sharp, and then postprocess your music, turning all of those back to normal pitch and adding the top octave. If you do the unsharpening/octavation in the toplevel-music-functions hook, it will actually happen at a time when all \relative music has already been turned into absolute music, so that would not interfere. That's an interesting idea, I'll definitely try it, thanks! What exactly do you mean by toplevel? Are these functions defined or applied differently than regular music functions? toplevel-music-functions is a central hook containing a list of Scheme functions that are applied when scorify-music is called. I think the arguments they receive is the parser and music, and they return music again. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Custom note names / octavize pitch
Hi all, I'm looking for a way to octavize a note with the least input possible. I know there are music functions in the LSR that do this but they aren't very useful to me because in the music I need this for the octaves usually aren't successive and it wouldn't really save input if I had to write the function for single pitches, even if the function name were reduced to a single letter. So I was wondering if this maybe could be achieved with custom note names, maybe a capital letter for an additional octave. After a look at define-note-names.scm I fear it's not but I thought I ask if a note name accepts anything else than ly:make-pitch before I try to experiment on my own. For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) *4 d fis8 * r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
Hmm... nabble appearantly auto-converts this to html so here are the snippets again: TaoCG wrote For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) lt;b b'4 d fis 8 lt;b b' r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis 8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis 8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705p155706.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to octavize a note with the least input possible. I know there are music functions in the LSR that do this but they aren't very useful to me because in the music I need this for the octaves usually aren't successive and it wouldn't really save input if I had to write the function for single pitches, even if the function name were reduced to a single letter. So I was wondering if this maybe could be achieved with custom note names, maybe a capital letter for an additional octave. After a look at define-note-names.scm I fear it's not but I thought I ask if a note name accepts anything else than ly:make-pitch before I try to experiment on my own. It doesn't. Note that a note name means something different in chord mode than it does in note mode and consequently there are different tokens produced in different modes from note names. Assigning arbitrary (and consequently mode-independent) meanings to note names is not immediately compatible with the way in which this is done currently. While it looks not all too difficult to change that, it's not currently supported. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to octavize a note with the least input possible. I know there are music functions in the LSR that do this but they aren't very useful to me because in the music I need this for the octaves usually aren't successive and it wouldn't really save input if I had to write the function for single pitches, even if the function name were reduced to a single letter. So I was wondering if this maybe could be achieved with custom note names, maybe a capital letter for an additional octave. After a look at define-note-names.scm I fear it's not but I thought I ask if a note name accepts anything else than ly:make-pitch before I try to experiment on my own. For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) *4 d fis8 * r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | Uh, you might want to improve your illustration: it is utterly incomprehensible what you want to be your input and your output. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
Hi, this file could be interesting for you: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob_plain;f=ly/bagpipe.ly;hb=HEAD or if you check it out: ly/bagpipe.ly Here it is documented. The docs don't tell too explicitly, but here a G is a g in a different octave: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/bagpipes HTH Joram Am 13.12.2013 13:05, schrieb TaoCG: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to octavize a note with the least input possible. I know there are music functions in the LSR that do this but they aren't very useful to me because in the music I need this for the octaves usually aren't successive and it wouldn't really save input if I had to write the function for single pitches, even if the function name were reduced to a single letter. So I was wondering if this maybe could be achieved with custom note names, maybe a capital letter for an additional octave. After a look at define-note-names.scm I fear it's not but I thought I ask if a note name accepts anything else than ly:make-pitch before I try to experiment on my own. For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) *4 d fis8 * r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to octavize a note with the least input possible. I know there are music functions in the LSR that do this but they aren't very useful to me because in the music I need this for the octaves usually aren't successive and it wouldn't really save input if I had to write the function for single pitches, even if the function name were reduced to a single letter. So I was wondering if this maybe could be achieved with custom note names, maybe a capital letter for an additional octave. After a look at define-note-names.scm I fear it's not but I thought I ask if a note name accepts anything else than ly:make-pitch before I try to experiment on my own. For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) *4 d fis 8 * r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis 8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis 8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | Uh, you might want to improve your illustration: it is utterly incomprehensible what you want to be your input and your output. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Yes, I noticed and tried (see my second post). Apparently nabble auto-converted the note 'b' in a chord-construct into a html bold tag. @Noeck Thanks for the links. It gave me an idea to experiment with. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705p155711.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: Uh, you might want to improve your illustration: it is utterly incomprehensible what you want to be your input and your output. Yes, I noticed and tried (see my second post). Apparently nabble auto-converted the note 'b' in a chord-construct into a html bold tag. Sorry, but I don't find the following very illustrative either: TaoCG wrote For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) lt;b b'4 d fis 8 lt;b b' r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis 8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis 8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
David Kastrup wrote TaoCG lt; tao_lilyponduser@ gt; writes: Uh, you might want to improve your illustration: it is utterly incomprehensible what you want to be your input and your output. Yes, I noticed and tried (see my second post). Apparently nabble auto-converted the note 'b' in a chord-construct into a html bold tag. Sorry, but I don't find the following very illustrative either: TaoCG wrote For illustration I imagine the following snippet (relative) lt;b b'4 d fis 8 lt;b b' r d fis r | r8 c d r r c d r g g' | to become this B4 d fis 8 B r d fis r A | r8 c d r A r c d r G | or even better B4 d fis 8 B r q r A | r8 c d r A r q r G | Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user If my message reached you like this then indeed it is. On my side, via the nabble web interface, it looks fine though. I'll just post a screenshot and try to make it clearer. 2013-12-13_154458.png http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n155723/2013-12-13_154458.png -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Custom-note-names-octavize-pitch-tp155705p155723.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Custom note names / octavize pitch
TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net writes: David Kastrup wrote Again, it is totally unclear what you want to be your input and your output. If my message reached you like this then indeed it is. On my side, via the nabble web interface, it looks fine though. Web interfaces are somewhat treacherous. Gmane.org seems to be more reliable. I'll just post a screenshot and try to make it clearer. 2013-12-13_154458.png http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n155723/2013-12-13_154458.png Well, an afterthought: you could probably define uppercase letters to be a quartertone (or less) sharp, and then postprocess your music, turning all of those back to normal pitch and adding the top octave. If you do the unsharpening/octavation in the toplevel-music-functions hook, it will actually happen at a time when all \relative music has already been turned into absolute music, so that would not interfere. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
