Re: Duration shortcut not working for rests
Ah, that makes sense. I can see how the behavior would be useful there.
I think part of the surprise is that when writing \new Dynamics voices I
will only use spacer rests, and typically only specify the "s" the first
time, leaving the rest of the piece described with just durations.
\new Dynamics {
s1
| 2\< 2\>
| 1\!
}
But if I try to use spacer rests in a musical context with pitches, then
the compiler stops remembering the "s".
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 4 4 4
% These are still "c"s
| s4 4 4 4
}
Would it be reasonable for this to be configurable, so that different parts
could remember or forget rests as needed?
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 5:22 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the "r4" at the
> start of the second measure is fully qualified, I was expecting the "4"s
> that follow it to be quarter rests as well, but I'm seeing "c"s in the
> rendered output.
>
> \version "2.25.6"
>
> {
> c'4 r r r
> % The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
> | r4 4 4 b
> }
>
> It's on purpose (even though I tend to agree that it is a bit quirky). One
> reason is to simplify the writing of percussion lines, where the same drum
> name is often repeated over and over, mixed with rests.
>
> Best,
>
> Jean
>
Re: Duration shortcut not working for rests
> Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the "r4" at the
> start of the second measure is fully qualified, I was expecting the "4"s that
> follow it to be quarter rests as well, but I'm seeing "c"s in the rendered
> output.
>
> ```
> \version "2.25.6"
>
> {
> c'4 r r r
> % The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
> | r4 4 4 b
> }
> ```
It's on purpose (even though I tend to agree that it is a bit quirky). One
reason is to simplify the writing of percussion lines, where the same drum name
is often repeated over and over, mixed with rests.
Best,
Jean
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Subject:Re: Duration shortcut not working for rests
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:19:42 -0500
From: William Ashton
To: Jakob Pedersen
Part of what may be confusing me is that when defining a \new Dynamics
voice, I will use only spacer rests, and I typically only specify the
first "s", leaving only the durations for the rest of the piece. For
example...
\new Dynamics {
s1
| 1
| 2\< 2\>
| 1\!
}
Yet, if I try similar in a music expression with pitches, it refuses to
remember the spacers.
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 4 4 4
% These 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 4
% These are still "c"s
| s4 4 4 4
}
The behavior changed. Why?
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 5:11 PM William Ashton wrote:
Sure. I recognize that that would work. I guess the question more
directly would be "do isolated durations only work for notes?" In
this slightly adjusted example, I would expect the "4"s in the first
measure to remember the "c'", and the "4"s in the second measure to
remember the "r".
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#durations
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 4 4 4
% These 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 4
}
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 5:06 PM Jakob Pedersen
wrote:
Hi William,
If you want to write more rests, the syntax is
r4 r r b
Much like
c'4 r e f
are all quarter notes and a quarter rest.
Lilypond remembers the duration, but needs to know what to print
with that duration.
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 03.02.2024 22.55, William Ashton wrote:
Hello all,
Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the
"r4" at the start of the second measure is fully qualified, I
was expecting the "4"s that follow it to be quarter rests as
well, but I'm seeing "c"s in the rendered output.
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 r r r
% The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 b
}
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/J
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Subject:Re: Duration shortcut not working for rests
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:11:08 -0500
From: William Ashton
To: Jakob Pedersen
Sure. I recognize that that would work. I guess the question more
directly would be "do isolated durations only work for notes?" In this
slightly adjusted example, I would expect the "4"s in the first measure
to remember the "c'", and the "4"s in the second measure to remember the
"r".
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#durations
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 4 4 4
% These 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 4
}
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 5:06 PM Jakob Pedersen wrote:
Hi William,
If you want to write more rests, the syntax is
r4 r r b
Much like
c'4 r e f
are all quarter notes and a quarter rest.
Lilypond remembers the duration, but needs to know what to print
with that duration.
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 03.02.2024 22.55, William Ashton wrote:
Hello all,
Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the "r4"
at the start of the second measure is fully qualified, I was
expecting the "4"s that follow it to be quarter rests as well, but
I'm seeing "c"s in the rendered output.
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 r r r
% The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 b
}
Re: Duration shortcut not working for rests
Hi William,
If you want to write more rests, the syntax is
r4 r r b
Much like
c'4 r e f
are all quarter notes and a quarter rest.
Lilypond remembers the duration, but needs to know what to print with
that duration.
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 03.02.2024 22.55, William Ashton wrote:
Hello all,
Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the "r4" at
the start of the second measure is fully qualified, I was expecting
the "4"s that follow it to be quarter rests as well, but I'm seeing
"c"s in the rendered output.
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 r r r
% The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 b
}
Duration shortcut not working for rests
Hello all,
Am I misunderstanding something, or is this a bug? Since the "r4" at the
start of the second measure is fully qualified, I was expecting the "4"s
that follow it to be quarter rests as well, but I'm seeing "c"s in the
rendered output.
\version "2.25.6"
{
c'4 r r r
% The middle 4s are "c"s instead of rests
| r4 4 4 b
}
