Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:46:14 +0100 Richard Shann wrote: > I think you linked to the wrong video here, either Oops -- Sorry! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
On Tue, 2016-08-30 at 14:29 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:15:53 +0200 > Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > > > In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the > > music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning > > process. > > To chime in on this: I use Denemo to enter new music. Its separation of > rhythm and melody is a real time saver, especially if you have a (even > cheap) MIDI keyboard. > https://vimeo.com/81814901 I think you linked to the wrong video here, either https://vimeo.com/61994482 (very short), or https://vimeo.com/62188678 (a bit longer) cover entering rhythm followed by notes. There are some improvements over what is shown in these videos as well, but they give the general idea. Richard > Denemo exports LilyPond, which I then edit further in Frescobaldi and/or > Emacs. > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:15:53 +0200 Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the > music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning > process. To chime in on this: I use Denemo to enter new music. Its separation of rhythm and melody is a real time saver, especially if you have a (even cheap) MIDI keyboard. https://vimeo.com/81814901 Denemo exports LilyPond, which I then edit further in Frescobaldi and/or Emacs. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
Hi Donald, Hi All, As it has already been said, direct conversion (pdf2ly) is not possible. You have to go through a 3rd party product to get an XML file and then do the xml2ly conversion. I'm testing those OMR from time to time (you can add http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/omer.htm on the list). Audiveris is the worst, clearly out of date. I did the last test in 2015 and I was impressed by the results with PhotoScore, very few mistakes. Anyway, remember that the idea is to save time and you will be surprised on how time consuming are these processes. In any case, even with PhotoScore, you'll have to edit the ly file and work on it, hard on most case, to get a nice final result. In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning process. My 2 pence. Cheers, Pierre 2016-08-30 11:12 GMT+02:00 Johan Vromans : > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:21:32 +0100 > "Phil Holmes" wrote: > > > It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free. > > I gave Audiveris a try some time ago. It has a nice UI that allows solving > scanning problems before the recognition phase. > > I don't know if it is still under active development, though. > > https://audiveris.kenai.com/ > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:21:32 +0100 "Phil Holmes" wrote: > It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free. I gave Audiveris a try some time ago. It has a nice UI that allows solving scanning problems before the recognition phase. I don't know if it is still under active development, though. https://audiveris.kenai.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:35:50 +0200 Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: > If I’m not mistaken, SharpEye has been renamed to PhotoScore Ultimate > some time ago. A trial version can still be found on http://www.visiv.co.uk/installsharpeye2.exe It runs under Wine as well. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
Hello Phil, If I’m not mistaken, SharpEye has been renamed to PhotoScore Ultimate some time ago. JM > Le 30 août 2016 à 10:21, Phil Holmes a écrit : > > - Original Message - From: "Donald J. Stewart" > > To: > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 9:27 PM > Subject: Lilypond reading pdf's > > >> I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s). >> >> I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit these >> pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch. >> >> I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased >> composer's work. >> >> Thanks! > > > It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free. > > I use a program called SharpEye (http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm) although > I'm not convinced it's still possible to buy it. It looks like PhotoScore > does the same sort of thing (http://www.neuratron.com/photoscore.htm). I > assume you can then import the MusicXML to LilyPond. I personally import it > to NoteWorthy (https://noteworthycomposer.com/), clean it up, and then export > it to LilyPond with my own converter, which is also available freely. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
- Original Message - From: "Donald J. Stewart" To: Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 9:27 PM Subject: Lilypond reading pdf's I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s). I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit these pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch. I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased composer's work. Thanks! It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free. I use a program called SharpEye (http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm) although I'm not convinced it's still possible to buy it. It looks like PhotoScore does the same sort of thing (http://www.neuratron.com/photoscore.htm). I assume you can then import the MusicXML to LilyPond. I personally import it to NoteWorthy (https://noteworthycomposer.com/), clean it up, and then export it to LilyPond with my own converter, which is also available freely. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond reading pdf's
Hello Donald, I use PhotoScore Ultimate (not free, but quite worth its price) to scan PDF, fix the scanning issues, export to MusicXML and convert to LP with musicxml2ly. The final fixes are done with Frescobaldi. Can give great results with good quality PDF files. JM > Le 29 août 2016 à 22:27, Donald J. Stewart a > écrit : > > I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s). > > I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit these > pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch. > > I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased > composer's work. > > Thanks! > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lilypond reading pdf's
I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s). I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit these pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch. I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased composer's work. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
