Re: More Gounod :-)

[Alberto Simões]

Hello,

Finally trying to review this.

On 12/12/15 06:18, Brian Barker wrote:

o It's a weird style that puts full stops other than at the end of
sentences. You have sensibly excised the full stops after the title and
the composer. It would be sensible also to lose them after "Murmurs of
regret from the troupe", "The procession", and "Return to the House".
(But you do need the full stops after "... broken" and "... refreshments".)


Decided to remove them all. I think that even the two after "broken" and 
"refreshments" can be dropped without big loses.



o There are many accidentals that I would parenthesise, e.g. the
naturals in bar 24 and the flat and natural in bar 26 (and many more) -
but you may want to retain the style of the original.


Yes, I will keep them as they are. I feel the whole score is already too 
crowded with notation, that the parenthesis might make more confusion 
than help.



o The slur from the C-sharp in bar 23 to the D in bar 24 fails to appear
at all in the new system. (The identical one between bars 109 and 110 is
how it should look.)


Fortunately, forcing the music to be in four pages solved the issue 
without I needing to learn how to do it :-)



o Shouldn't the grace note in bar 53 be slurred to its adjacent D, not
to the lower F-sharp? (This occurs also in bars 57, 69, 85, 89, and 90.)


I think I fixed them all.


o The dynamics surely do not follow standard practice? The forte in bar
54 continues to apply in bar 55 without being repeated. Is this meant to
represent sforzando? This also applies to the forte in bar 87, the
pianissimos in bars 95, 97, and 99, and the ppp in bar 139: they all
apply without being stated. But again you may wish to preserve the style
of the original.


Indeed, not sure why those repetitions. Will keep with the original.


Further suggestions and corrections are welcome.

https://github.com/ambs/music/blob/master/Gounod/FuneralMarchOfAMarionette/march.pdf

Thank you,
Alberto



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Re: More Gounod :-)

[Alberto Simões]

On 31/01/16 15:36, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 11/12/15 22:55, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 11.12.2015 22:27, Alberto Simões wrote:


It is in the common place:




Just from a quick glance:
– The slur in m. 23/24 is definitely not publication quality. You could
try \shape or better, \shapeII (of openlilylib; it has bugs, though).


I am not sure what slur you were talking about, but when adding the
page-count to 4, they all changed, and probably look better now?


– the ppp in the last bars look odd so far to the left


I think they are better now. I pushed them a little to the right (the
first time, and I continue doing do) because they were overlapping
with the measure line.


– And I’d try \paper { page-count = 4 }, it should work fine.


There are a lot of warnings in the lilypond output now, but yes,
lilypond manages to put everything in 4 pages. Not sure if it isn't
too crowded now.


The pdf at

still has five pages. Is that the most recent version?


So used to SubVersion that I forget to push with Git.
Pushed now. Thanks!

Alberto

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Re: More Gounod :-)

[Simon Albrecht]

On 31.01.2016 16:26, Alberto Simões wrote:

Hi, Simon

Although I still have some corrections to do, proposed by Brian, I 
would love to first close your suggestions.


Yeah, last times have been rough, so a lot of time since this e-mail.

On 11/12/15 22:55, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 11.12.2015 22:27, Alberto Simões wrote:


It is in the common place:



Just from a quick glance:
– The slur in m. 23/24 is definitely not publication quality. You could
try \shape or better, \shapeII (of openlilylib; it has bugs, though).


I am not sure what slur you were talking about, but when adding the 
page-count to 4, they all changed, and probably look better now?



– the ppp in the last bars look odd so far to the left


I think they are better now. I pushed them a little to the right (the 
first time, and I continue doing do) because they were overlapping 
with the measure line.



– And I’d try \paper { page-count = 4 }, it should work fine.


There are a lot of warnings in the lilypond output now, but yes, 
lilypond manages to put everything in 4 pages. Not sure if it isn't 
too crowded now.


The pdf at 
 
still has five pages. Is that the most recent version?


Best, Simon

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Re: More Gounod :-)

[Alberto Simões]

Hi, Simon

Although I still have some corrections to do, proposed by Brian, I would 
love to first close your suggestions.


Yeah, last times have been rough, so a lot of time since this e-mail.

On 11/12/15 22:55, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 11.12.2015 22:27, Alberto Simões wrote:


It is in the common place:
https://github.com/ambs/music/tree/master/Gounod/FuneralMarchOfAMarionette


Just from a quick glance:
– The slur in m. 23/24 is definitely not publication quality. You could
try \shape or better, \shapeII (of openlilylib; it has bugs, though).


I am not sure what slur you were talking about, but when adding the 
page-count to 4, they all changed, and probably look better now?



– the ppp in the last bars look odd so far to the left


I think they are better now. I pushed them a little to the right (the 
first time, and I continue doing do) because they were overlapping with 
the measure line.



– And I’d try \paper { page-count = 4 }, it should work fine.


There are a lot of warnings in the lilypond output now, but yes, 
lilypond manages to put everything in 4 pages. Not sure if it isn't too 
crowded now. Please give me your opinion.


Thanks,
Alberto

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Re: More Gounod :-)

[Simon Albrecht]

On 11.12.2015 22:27, Alberto Simões wrote:

hello,

Just finished transcribing and validating the Funeral March of a 
Marionette, by Charles Gounod.


It is in the common place: 
https://github.com/ambs/music/tree/master/Gounod/FuneralMarchOfAMarionette


If any of you have some time and look into it, trying to find 
transcribing errors, or suggesting engraving approaches, I am grateful 
as always.


Just from a quick glance:
– The slur in m. 23/24 is definitely not publication quality. You could 
try \shape or better, \shapeII (of openlilylib; it has bugs, though).
– m.20 and 22, l.H., second half of the measure should be beamed upward 
– don’t know why it isn’t. I’ll write to the bug list.
– in m.130 and 132, r.H., I’d experiment with something like 
\once\offset length -1 Stem to avoid the stem ending ‘in’ the tie

– the ppp in the last bars look odd so far to the left
– And I’d try \paper { page-count = 4 }, it should work fine.

Yours, Simon

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More Gounod :-)

[Alberto Simões]

hello,

Just finished transcribing and validating the Funeral March of a 
Marionette, by Charles Gounod.


It is in the common place: 
https://github.com/ambs/music/tree/master/Gounod/FuneralMarchOfAMarionette


If any of you have some time and look into it, trying to find 
transcribing errors, or suggesting engraving approaches, I am grateful 
as always.


Best,
Alberto

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