Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
kieren == kieren macmillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
kieren Mats,
I would have though that \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.0
should do the job, but it seems that it only affect the right end,
not the left end. Of course, you could then use a combination of
X-offset and bound-padding to get what you want, but I'm not
convinced that this is the expected behaviour.
kieren Agreed.
kieren On a not-too-distantly related note, I again put up a
kieren sponsorship offer for the ability to control padding of such
kieren items BY NOTE DURATION. For example, I would love to have a
kieren Hairpin on a whole note start at the half-note position and be
kieren 3/8s long (i.e., stop 1/8 before the end of the whole note) by
kieren saying
You make this look right now, e.g., by
c1 \\ {s2\ s4. \! s8}
but the MIDI output doesn't sound right. I'm trying to get the MIDI
output right, so have to explicitly do things like:
\pp c64 ~ \ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~\!\sf c64 ~ \ c64 ~ c64
~ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~ c64 ~c64 ~ c64 ~ c64\! \pp
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Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
Hi Peter,
You make this look right now, e.g., by
c1 \\ {s2\ s4. \! s8}
... which is both musically incorrect AND unnecessarily awkward to
code. ;-)
This is really something that Lilypond SHOULD handle more gracefully.
Even my suggested fix -- which would be superior to the current
workaround(s) -- is flawed, since it would only LOOK like the dynamic
started/ended in a different spot (i.e., it would not likely fix the
MIDI performance problem).
Best regards,
Kieren.
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Moving a hairpin horizontally
What's the override for moving the ends of a hairpin horizontally? I need to start one a little to the right of its default position because it collides with a cross-staffed note. But I can only find information about moving hairpins vertically. I tried this: \once \override Hairpin #'X-offset = #1 but this moves the whole hairpin, offsetting the right end too. It's such a simple matter there must surely be a simple solution, but I'm stumped. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 22:20 +1000, Kim Bastin wrote:
What's the override for moving the ends of a hairpin horizontally? I
need to start one a little to the right of its default position because
it collides with a cross-staffed note. But I can only find information
about moving hairpins vertically.
Probably the easiest method is to attach the hairpin to spacer notes in
a second voice:
{ c'4 d' e' f' g'1 } \\ { s8 s8\ s2. s1\! }
You can adjust the duration of the first spacer note to move the
left-hand end of the hairpin.
I also can't find a direct interface for horizontally adjusting just one
end of a hairpin.
PS: Hi Kim, haven't seen you for years... how's Melbourne?
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Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
I would have though that \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.0 should do the job, but it seems that it only affect the right end, not the left end. Of course, you could then use a combination of X-offset and bound-padding to get what you want, but I'm not convinced that this is the expected behaviour. /Mats Kim Bastin wrote: What's the override for moving the ends of a hairpin horizontally? I need to start one a little to the right of its default position because it collides with a cross-staffed note. But I can only find information about moving hairpins vertically. I tried this: \once \override Hairpin #'X-offset = #1 but this moves the whole hairpin, offsetting the right end too. It's such a simple matter there must surely be a simple solution, but I'm stumped. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
Mats, I would have though that \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.0 should do the job, but it seems that it only affect the right end, not the left end. Of course, you could then use a combination of X-offset and bound-padding to get what you want, but I'm not convinced that this is the expected behaviour. Agreed. On a not-too-distantly related note, I again put up a sponsorship offer for the ability to control padding of such items BY NOTE DURATION. For example, I would love to have a Hairpin on a whole note start at the half-note position and be 3/8s long (i.e., stop 1/8 before the end of the whole note) by saying \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #'((1 . 2) (1 . 8)) or whatever format is best/intuitive. Any savvy devs out there want a little extra ca$h?? ;-) Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Moving a hairpin horizontally
Thanks Mark. My own solution, finally, was to define a dummy dynamic:
spacer = #(make-dynamic-script (markup ))
and attach it to the starting note, where it displaces the left end of
the hairpin to the right by about the width of a notehead. It's not the
finest control, and it has kludge written all over it, but it serves
the present purpose. And it can be used in similar fashion to displace
the right end of the hairpin to the left.
[Hi Mark! Melbourne's still on the Yarra, and stealthily taking over the
surrounding countryside. Very dry though.]
On 2008-05-12 13:08:24 GMT Mark Knoop wrote:
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 22:20 +1000, Kim Bastin wrote:
What's the override for moving the ends of a hairpin horizontally? I
need to start one a little to the right of its default position because
it collides with a cross-staffed note. But I can only find information
about moving hairpins vertically.
Probably the easiest method is to attach the hairpin to spacer notes in
a second voice:
{ c'4 d' e' f' g'1 } \\ { s8 s8\ s2. s1\! }
You can adjust the duration of the first spacer note to move the
left-hand end of the hairpin.
I also can't find a direct interface for horizontally adjusting just one
end of a hairpin.
PS: Hi Kim, haven't seen you for years... how's Melbourne?
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