Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Dear David, > > On 9 March 2017 at 14:16, David Nalesnik wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just wanted to repeat my question (as I'm unable to get rid of some >>> pretty annoying side effects when typesetting musing for accordion). >>> >>> I would greatly appreciate any hints for solving the problem. >> >> I'm sorry, but I don't know what causes this. I hope that someone >> else on the list can offer you a solution. > > I'm almost sure that I understand the problem when using new voice. A > new voice macro must be executed twice. First time during typesetting > of the regular melody (as expected) and second time in the middle of > typesetting the accordion push spanner. Sure, something is triggering the creation of a new Staff context. It happens when you comment out the \consists line for the engraver too. > > But I don't know if it's possible to "temporary disable" adding a new > voice when typesetting the push spanner. > I don't know either, but I hope that the solution doesn't require doing something like this :) Sorry I can't be of more help. Best, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
Dear David, On 9 March 2017 at 14:16, David Nalesnik wrote: > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just wanted to repeat my question (as I'm unable to get rid of some >> pretty annoying side effects when typesetting musing for accordion). >> >> I would greatly appreciate any hints for solving the problem. > > I'm sorry, but I don't know what causes this. I hope that someone > else on the list can offer you a solution. I'm almost sure that I understand the problem when using new voice. A new voice macro must be executed twice. First time during typesetting of the regular melody (as expected) and second time in the middle of typesetting the accordion push spanner. But I don't know if it's possible to "temporary disable" adding a new voice when typesetting the push spanner. Mojca ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
Hi Mojca, On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to repeat my question (as I'm unable to get rid of some > pretty annoying side effects when typesetting musing for accordion). > > I would greatly appreciate any hints for solving the problem. I'm sorry, but I don't know what causes this. I hope that someone else on the list can offer you a solution. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
Hi,
I just wanted to repeat my question (as I'm unable to get rid of some
pretty annoying side effects when typesetting musing for accordion).
I would greatly appreciate any hints for solving the problem.
Thank you,
Mojca
On 24 February 2017 at 13:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A while ago David Nalesnik wrote some wonderful macros to help me
> write a thick line that denote accordion pushing [1]. The macros work
> wonderfully in 99% of cases, but there are some strange examples where
> this fails.
>
> The example below produces output you can see in the attached PNG. If
> I remove "AccordionPushPull", then the scores typeset fine, but I do
> need those events.
>
> I tried several other strategies. All I need is a small chunk of code
> with different properties (tails pointing in different direction,
> perhaps the size or colour of the scores slightly changed to denote
> optional part for the player, ...). But whatever I try that works in
> normal conditions, fails here.
>
> I'm attaching a "minimal" working example that includes David's code
> (which I left untouched).
>
> melody = \fixed c' {
> \time 3/4
> \partial 2
> \startPush d' e' | \stopPush
> << { f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 | } \\ { 2.~ | 2. | } >>
> }
>
> basses = \fixed c {
> \clef bass
> \partial 2
> f,4 | d,4 | a,4 |
> }
>
> \score {
> \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Voice = "melody" { \melody }
> \new AccordionPushPull \with {
> \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing.padding = 1
> } {
> \melody
> }
> \new Staff = "staff" <<
> \new Voice = "bass" { \basses }
> >>
> >>
> }
>
> If I change the above line of melody to
>
> <<
> {
> \voiceOne f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 |
> }
> \new Voice {
> \voiceTwo 2.~ | 2. |
> }
> >>
>
> then I get the attached screenshot (lily-accordion-with-new-voices.png)
> which is "equally" bad, only in a different way.)
>
> The example was taken from
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices
>
> The first example with "\\" as voice separator has the additional
> problem that I cannot add lyrics to it (which is not acceptable), but
> this one repeats the second voice which is highly undesirable.
>
> I would be grateful for a bit of help to fix this.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Mojca
> (please CC me)
>
>
> [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-07/msg00392.html
>
> PS: Other examples of the push/pull macros not really obeying me (but
> those are all cases with much lower priority and there's no need to do
> anything about those now unless it's related to the problem at hand):
>
> - When push/pull spanner starts at "\repeat volta 2 {}", it's not
> properly aligned
>
> - Sometimes I need:
> melodyA = {\startPush ... \stopPush}
> melodyB = {\startPush ... \stopPush}
> melody = {\melodyA \melodyB}
> but I need to delete the last \stopPush in A and the first \startPush
> in B, else the line is disconnected (placed at different heights).
> This is also a problem with \repeat volta 2 {} \alternative { {} {} }
> where push events need to cross alternatives even if they are not
> logically connected, but I need to make sure that it looks visually
> accepting.
>
> - The code sometimes says
> warning: I think there's a dangling accordion push spanner :-(
> but it doesn't tell me the line to help me debug the problem.
test-lily-multiple-voices.ly
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Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
Hi,
Now with attachment ...
On 24 February 2017 at 14:34, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> I just wanted to add another screenshot. If I change the above line of melody
> to
>
> <<
> {
> \voiceOne f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 |
> }
> \new Voice {
> \voiceTwo 2.~ | 2. |
> }
> >>
>
> then I get the attached screenshot which is "equally" bad, only in a
> different way.)
>
> The example was taken from
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices
>
> The first example with "\\" as voice separator has the additional
> problem that I cannot add lyrics to it (which is not acceptable), but
> this one repeats the second voice which is highly undesirable.
>
> Thank you,
> Mojca
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Re: Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
On 24 February 2017 at 13:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A while ago David Nalesnik wrote some wonderful macros to help me
> write a thick line that denote accordion pushing [1]. The macros work
> wonderfully in 99% of cases, but there are some strange examples where
> this fails.
>
> The example below produces output you can see in the attached PNG. If
> I remove "AccordionPushPull", then the scores typeset fine, but I do
> need those events.
>
> I tried several other strategies. All I need is a small chunk of code
> with different properties (tails pointing in different direction,
> perhaps the size or colour of the scores slightly changed to denote
> optional part for the player, ...). But whatever I try that works in
> normal conditions, fails here.
>
> I'm attaching a "minimal" working example that includes David's code
> (which I left untouched).
>
> melody = \fixed c' {
> \time 3/4
> \partial 2
> \startPush d' e' | \stopPush
> << { f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 | } \\ { 2.~ | 2. | } >>
> }
>
> basses = \fixed c {
> \clef bass
> \partial 2
> f,4 | d,4 | a,4 |
> }
>
> \score {
> \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Voice = "melody" { \melody }
> \new AccordionPushPull \with {
> \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing.padding = 1
> } {
> \melody
> }
> \new Staff = "staff" <<
> \new Voice = "bass" { \basses }
> >>
> >>
> }
>
> I would be grateful for a bit of help to fix this.
I just wanted to add another screenshot. If I change the above line of melody to
<<
{
\voiceOne f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 |
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo 2.~ | 2. |
}
>>
then I get the attached screenshot which is "equally" bad, only in a
different way.)
The example was taken from
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices
The first example with "\\" as voice separator has the additional
problem that I cannot add lyrics to it (which is not acceptable), but
this one repeats the second voice which is highly undesirable.
Thank you,
Mojca
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Problems with parallel voices when using David's accordion push spanner
Hi,
A while ago David Nalesnik wrote some wonderful macros to help me
write a thick line that denote accordion pushing [1]. The macros work
wonderfully in 99% of cases, but there are some strange examples where
this fails.
The example below produces output you can see in the attached PNG. If
I remove "AccordionPushPull", then the scores typeset fine, but I do
need those events.
I tried several other strategies. All I need is a small chunk of code
with different properties (tails pointing in different direction,
perhaps the size or colour of the scores slightly changed to denote
optional part for the player, ...). But whatever I try that works in
normal conditions, fails here.
I'm attaching a "minimal" working example that includes David's code
(which I left untouched).
melody = \fixed c' {
\time 3/4
\partial 2
\startPush d' e' | \stopPush
<< { f'4 e' d' | f'4 d'2 | } \\ { 2.~ | 2. | } >>
}
basses = \fixed c {
\clef bass
\partial 2
f,4 | d,4 | a,4 |
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Voice = "melody" { \melody }
\new AccordionPushPull \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing.padding = 1
} {
\melody
}
\new Staff = "staff" <<
\new Voice = "bass" { \basses }
>>
>>
}
I would be grateful for a bit of help to fix this.
Thank you very much,
Mojca
(please CC me)
[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-07/msg00392.html
PS: Other examples of the push/pull macros not really obeying me (but
those are all cases with much lower priority and there's no need to do
anything about those now unless it's related to the problem at hand):
- When push/pull spanner starts at "\repeat volta 2 {}", it's not
properly aligned
- Sometimes I need:
melodyA = {\startPush ... \stopPush}
melodyB = {\startPush ... \stopPush}
melody = {\melodyA \melodyB}
but I need to delete the last \stopPush in A and the first \startPush
in B, else the line is disconnected (placed at different heights).
This is also a problem with \repeat volta 2 {} \alternative { {} {} }
where push events need to cross alternatives even if they are not
logically connected, but I need to make sure that it looks visually
accepting.
- The code sometimes says
warning: I think there's a dangling accordion push spanner :-(
but it doesn't tell me the line to help me debug the problem.
test-lily-multiple-voices.ly
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