Re: Beam groupings
Eluze wrote Sunday, September 08, 2013 10:04 AM
> I can't reproduce the error(s).
>
> I suppose your full code is something like
>
> *code above*
> }
> {\vibestopstaff}
>
> then it compiles perfectly in 2.16.0 and higher.
>
> only when removing or postponing the /\time 2/4/ then errors raise
Yes, \time resets all the beaming parameters for the specified time signature.
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Re: Beam groupings
EdBeesley wrote
> Rachael the version is 2.16.2.
>
> I've now got the code to work, but the fix for this seems rather strange.
> If I put the code before any declared notes in a part it doesn't work,
> e.g:
>
> vibestopstaff = \relative c'' { \time 2/4
> \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 2 4)
>\setvibestopstaff Timing.beatStructure = #'(1)
>\set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
> c8 ( bes a f ) |
>
I can't reproduce the error(s).
I suppose your full code is something like
*code above*
}
{\vibestopstaff}
then it compiles perfectly in 2.16.0 and higher.
only when removing or postponing the /\time 2/4/ then errors raise
Eluze
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Re: Beam groupings
EdBeesley writes:
> Rachael the version is 2.16.2.
>
> I've now got the code to work, but the fix for this seems rather strange. If
> I put the code before any declared notes in a part it doesn't work, e.g:
>
> vibestopstaff = \relative c'' { \time 2/4
> \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 2 4)
>\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(1)
>\set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
> c8 ( bes a f ) |
Fixed in 2.17.12
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3140>
In the mean time, do something like \context Voice { \time 2/4 ...
or similar to get the Score context set up properly before the commands
register.
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Re: Beam groupings
Rachael the version is 2.16.2.
I've now got the code to work, but the fix for this seems rather strange. If
I put the code before any declared notes in a part it doesn't work, e.g:
vibestopstaff = \relative c'' { \time 2/4
\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 2 4)
\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(1)
\set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
c8 ( bes a f ) |
Whereas if I insert it after the first couple of notes it works as intended:
c8 ( bes \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 2 4)
\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(1)
\set Timing.beamExceptions = #'() a f ) |
Is this supposed to happen? I don't understand the necessity of having to
interleave it with notes before it's acknowledged by the parser
Peter your code didn't work at first, maybe I was putting it in the wrong
place. I tried combining it with the advice in the manual and inserted it
here:
\new Staff = "VibesT" {
\overrideTimeSignatureSettings
2/4
2/4
#'(1)
#'()
\vibestopstaff
This also works as intended.
Thanks for the help everyone, I'm a recent convert from Sibelius and whilst
I love the quality of the output from Lilypond it sure is a steep learning
curve!
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Re: Beam groupings
At the moment I can't give you a reason why this would work instead of the
code posted earlier, but here's the code I use in my current projects.
Put a \layout block somewhere inside your \score block with the following
contents (adjust it to your needs – this produces beamed groups with a
length of 1/4 each in a 4/4 measure):
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\overrideTimeSignatureSettings
4/4
1/4
#'(1 1 1 1)
#'()
}
}
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Am 08.09.2013 03:28 schrieb "EdBeesley" :
> Thanks everyone for your continued help. Rachael I'm afraid your example
> didn't work. I did actually study the relevant section of the manual for a
> good half hour, and I can see why your example should work, but
> unfortunately it doesn't :(
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Re: Beam groupings
Hi Ed: You have not told us what version you are running. What version of LilyPond are you running? This code should work for 2.14, 2.16, and 2.17. Rachael On 09/07/2013 08:28 PM, EdBeesley wrote: Thanks everyone for your continued help. Rachael I'm afraid your example didn't work. I did actually study the relevant section of the manual for a good half hour, and I can see why your example should work, but unfortunately it doesn't :( -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Beam-groupings-tp150417p150426.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beam groupings
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RE: Beam groupings
Ed:
In the manual
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/beams#setting-autom
atic-beam-behavior
is a discussion on changing how automatic beaming works. Scroll down until
you see the phrases:
\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(3 3 2)
See how the numbers relate to the example that follows. This should give you
an idea how to adjust the numbers to suit your score.
Mark
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Thanks Andrew I was going to do that but the whole part I'm writing has the
same beaming pattern throughout, so to keep it tidy I was hoping to avoid
doing it manually for every bar. And I figured I might as well try and
understand how it works now rather than later!
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] <[hidden
email]> wrote:
You could use manual beaming, for example.
\relative c'' {
  \time 2/4
  c8 b a g |
  c[ b a g] |
}
Andrew
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Re: Beam groupings
Hello Ed: On 09/07/2013 07:38 PM, EdBeesley wrote: Thanks Andrew I was going to do that but the whole part I'm writing has the same beaming pattern throughout, so to keep it tidy I was hoping to avoid doing it manually for every bar. And I figured I might as well try and understand how it works now rather than later! The relevant section of the manual is: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/beams#setting-automatic-beam-behavior subsection: "beaming based on baseMoment and beatStructure" from the manual: "If a common time signature is being used, beamExceptions must be disabled to enable beatStructure to work. The \set Timing.beamExceptions = #'() command can always be included if beaming is being determined by beatStructure. " I responded earlier with the code to automatically change the beaming structure. I jumped at the opportunity to assist with this list as it has been so very helpful to me in the past. Rachael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: Beam groupings
Hello Ed:
2/4 all 4 quavers will be beamed together.
\version "2.16.2"
\relative c'' {
\time 2/4
c8 b a g |
\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 2 4)
\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(1)
\set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
c b a g |
}
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Re: Beam groupings
Thanks Andrew I was going to do that but the whole part I'm writing has the
same beaming pattern throughout, so to keep it tidy I was hoping to avoid
doing it manually for every bar. And I figured I might as well try and
understand how it works now rather than later!
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n150418...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> You could use manual beaming, for example.
>
> \relative c'' {
>\time 2/4
>
>c8 b a g |
>c[ b a g] |
> }
>
>
> Andrew
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Re: Beam groupings
You could use manual beaming, for example.
\relative c'' {
\time 2/4
c8 b a g |
c[ b a g] |
}
Andrew
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