RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
well I think this is the best I can do \version "2.18.2" \relative c'{ \time 6/8 <<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo \slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c }>> | } \relative c'{ \time 6/8 8 \stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1 . 2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) 16 (a) 8 } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
This is an interesting problem... It begs the question, "Can slurs be made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?" It appears that they cannot, but can they be made to do so? I don't think I'd personally have too much use for the functionality, but it appears that it might be useful. Regards, Abraham On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM, me here [via Lilypond] wrote: > well I think this is the best I can do > > \version "2.18.2" > > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > <<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo > \slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur > \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> | > > } > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > 8 > \stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1 > . 2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) > 16 (a) 8 > } > > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/RE-Slur-and-acciaccatura-in-chords-tp168002.html > To start a new topic under User, email > ml-node+s1069038n...@n5.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Lilypond, click here. > NAML -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/RE-Slur-and-acciaccatura-in-chords-tp168002p168006.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Hi Abraham and Rale, thanks for the reply. As a classical guitarist I can say the function that Abraham mentions (Can slurs be made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?), would be ideal. perhaps a work around on the tie function. Something like this would also work. I think. \acciaccatura d'8 c As for your comment Rale, I am confused by your comment as your "Tag" seems to indicate you are a guitarist. Anyway, on the guitar when playing multiple voices (in classical rock jazz flamenco etc.). I it is common to have one voice slur (pulloff or hammeron) to other notes while the remaining voices move or stay. You can think of each chord as separate voices only instead of scoring it across many different staffs we use just one. a couple examples. http://www.delcamp.net/pdf/jose_ferrer_souvenir_du_quinze_aout.pdf No 2 acciaccatura ex. http://boije.statensmusikverk.se/ebibliotek/boije/pdf/Boije%20148.pdf slur in a chord http://d29ci68ykuu27r.cloudfront.net/product/Look-Inside/large/1906086_02.jpg http://d29ci68ykuu27r.cloudfront.net/product/Look-Inside/large/1906086_03.jpg last one in the center https://www.google.ca/search?q=say+it+ain%27t+so+score+pdf&biw=1280&bih=668&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=D7NPVL-7Gov1yAT02IHIAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#tbm=isch&q=chord+slur&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=7Cb6wal8Jb2bJM%253A%3BV__KZoAQPQYhjM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.arkkra.com%252Fdoc%252Fuguide%252Fmugex23.gif%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.arkkra.com%252Fdoc%252Fuguide%252Fichdattr.html%3B300%3B93 I know I know crazy guitarists :) thanks again >This is an interesting problem... It begs the question, "Can slurs be >made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?" It appears that they >cannot, but can they be made to do so? I don't think I'd personally >have too much use for the functionality, but it appears that it might >be useful. >Regards, >Abraham >Since a legatura (slur) to one note is a legatura to all on the >same stem, I don't see how it could be useful. Regards, Rale -- Guitar teaching materials and original music for all styles and levels. Site: http://www.openguitar.com (()) eMail: d.raleigh.arn...@gmail.com Contact: http://www.openguitar.com/contact.html On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM, me here [via Lilypond] wrote: > well I think this is the best I can do > > \version "2.18.2" > > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > <<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo > \slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur > \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> | > > } > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > 8 > \stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1 > . 2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) > 16 (a) 8 > } > > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/RE-Slur-and-acciaccatura-in-chords-tp168002.html > To start a new topic under User, email > ml-node+s1069038n...@n5.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Lilypond, click here. > NAML ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Hi Abraham, Thanks for all the help. I do like your code it works really nice. As for the voices >And just so you know, the << { ... }\\{ ... } >> implicitly applies >\voiceOne and \voiceTwo, so those are unnecessary. I did realize that however i read a post somewhere saying that if you explicitly reference \voiceOne \voiceTwo the slur may look better. Guess it was wrong since I did end up using \shape. Anyway I am wondering why when I add and extra voice using << { ... }\\{ ... } >> (as guitar voices sometimes are added and subtracted at random, the stem length changes. \version "2.18.2" %\include "../fonts/im/improviso.ily" \relative c'{ \time 6/8 8^"incorrect" <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \acciaccatura d'8 c }>> | } \relative c'{ \time 6/8 8^"correct" \shape #'((0.2 . 1.1) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.3 . 2.2) (0.1 . 2.8)) Slur \acciaccatura d'8 } This is easily fixed however with \override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) example: \relative c'{ \time 6/8 8^"incorrect" <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) \acciaccatura d'8 c }>> | } Anyway I was just curious on that. Oh I tried the fonts out, I am a big fan of font that looks hand written. So I really liked improviso.ily. I have used jazzlily for a long time and was wondering has it been updated since before? anyway Thanks again ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Stephen, On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Stephen MacNeil [via Lilypond] wrote: > Hi Abraham, > > Thanks for all the help. I do like your code it works really nice. As > for the voices > > >And just so you know, the << { ... }\\{ ... } >> implicitly applies > >\voiceOne and \voiceTwo, so those are unnecessary. > > I did realize that however i read a post somewhere saying that if > you explicitly reference \voiceOne \voiceTwo the slur may look > better. Guess it was wrong since I did end up using \shape. Anyway I > am wondering why when I add and extra voice using << { ... }\\{ ... } > >> (as guitar voices sometimes are added and subtracted at random), > the stem length changes. > Sorry. I'm not sure why that happens. Maybe it's that LP is having some difficulty determining "normal" dimensions with the clashing NoteColumns? > > \version "2.18.2" > %\include "../fonts/im/improviso.ily" > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > 8^"incorrect" > <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp > \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \acciaccatura d'8 > c }>> | > } > > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > 8^"correct" > \shape #'((0.2 . 1.1) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.3 . 2.2) (0.1 . 2.8)) Slur > \acciaccatura d'8 > } > > This is easily fixed however with > > \override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) > > example: > > \relative c'{ > \time 6/8 > 8^"incorrect" > <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp > \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \override > Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> | > } > > Anyway I was just curious on that. > > Oh I tried the fonts out, I am a big fan of font that looks hand > written. So I really liked > improviso.ily. I have used jazzlily for a long time and was wondering > has it been updated since before? > > anyway > > Thanks again LilyJAZZ has *definitely* been updated. I've added numerous elements, including articulations, microtonal accidentals, scripts, harmonics, etc. It's quite complete now. It has also been updated in that it is used without any fancy coding hacks :) Just do like you did with Improviso and use the LilyJAZZ stylesheet via \include "LilyJAZZ.ily" or manually, \paper { #(define fonts (set-global-fonts #:music "lilyjazz" #:brace "lilyjazz" #:roman "LilyJAZZText" #:sans "LilyJAZZChords" #:factor (/ staff-height pt 20) )) } in your score and you should be good to go! Regards, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/RE-Slur-and-acciaccatura-in-chords-tp168097p168098.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Hi Abraham thanks for your help Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user