RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
well I think this is the best I can do
\version "2.18.2"
\relative c'{
\time 6/8
<<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo
\slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur
\override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c }>> |
}
\relative c'{
\time 6/8
8
\stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1 .
2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0)
16 (a) 8
}
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RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
This is an interesting problem... It begs the question, "Can slurs be
made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?" It appears that they
cannot, but can they be made to do so? I don't think I'd personally
have too much use for the functionality, but it appears that it might
be useful.
Regards,
Abraham
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> well I think this is the best I can do
>
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> <<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo
> \slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur
> \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> |
>
> }
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> 8
> \stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1
> . 2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0)
> 16 (a) 8
> }
>
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Re:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Hi Abraham and Rale, thanks for the reply. As a classical guitarist I can
say the function that Abraham mentions (Can slurs be
made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?), would be ideal. perhaps a
work around on the tie function. Something like this would also work. I
think.
\acciaccatura d'8 c
As for your comment Rale, I am confused by your comment as your "Tag" seems
to indicate you are a guitarist. Anyway, on the guitar when playing
multiple voices (in classical rock jazz flamenco etc.). I it is common to
have one voice slur (pulloff or hammeron) to other notes while the
remaining voices move or stay. You can think of each chord as separate
voices only instead of scoring it across many different staffs we use just
one.
a couple examples.
http://www.delcamp.net/pdf/jose_ferrer_souvenir_du_quinze_aout.pdf
No 2 acciaccatura ex.
http://boije.statensmusikverk.se/ebibliotek/boije/pdf/Boije%20148.pdf
slur in a chord
http://d29ci68ykuu27r.cloudfront.net/product/Look-Inside/large/1906086_02.jpg
http://d29ci68ykuu27r.cloudfront.net/product/Look-Inside/large/1906086_03.jpg
last one in the center
https://www.google.ca/search?q=say+it+ain%27t+so+score+pdf&biw=1280&bih=668&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=D7NPVL-7Gov1yAT02IHIAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#tbm=isch&q=chord+slur&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=7Cb6wal8Jb2bJM%253A%3BV__KZoAQPQYhjM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.arkkra.com%252Fdoc%252Fuguide%252Fmugex23.gif%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.arkkra.com%252Fdoc%252Fuguide%252Fichdattr.html%3B300%3B93
I know I know crazy guitarists :)
thanks again
>This is an interesting problem... It begs the question, "Can slurs be
>made to start/end on arbitrary chord notes?" It appears that they
>cannot, but can they be made to do so? I don't think I'd personally
>have too much use for the functionality, but it appears that it might
>be useful.
>Regards,
>Abraham
>Since a legatura (slur) to one note is a legatura to all on the
>same stem, I don't see how it could be useful. Regards, Rale
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> well I think this is the best I can do
>
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> <<{ \voiceOne \stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\voiceTwo
> \slurDown \stemUp \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur
> \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> |
>
> }
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> 8
> \stemUp \slurDown \shape #'((1 . 1.8) (0.7 . 2.2) (-0.1 . 2.05) (-0.1
> . 2.0)) Slur \override Slur.positions = #'(0 . 0)
> 16 (a) 8
> }
>
>
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RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Hi Abraham,
Thanks for all the help. I do like your code it works really nice. As for
the voices
>And just so you know, the << { ... }\\{ ... } >> implicitly applies
>\voiceOne and \voiceTwo, so those are unnecessary.
I did realize that however i read a post somewhere saying that if you
explicitly reference \voiceOne \voiceTwo the slur may look better. Guess it
was wrong since I did end up using \shape. Anyway I am wondering why when I
add and extra voice using << { ... }\\{ ... } >> (as guitar voices
sometimes are added and subtracted at random, the stem length changes.
\version "2.18.2"
%\include "../fonts/im/improviso.ily"
\relative c'{
\time 6/8
8^"incorrect"
<<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp \shape
#'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \acciaccatura d'8 c
}>> |
}
\relative c'{
\time 6/8
8^"correct"
\shape #'((0.2 . 1.1) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.3 . 2.2) (0.1 . 2.8)) Slur
\acciaccatura d'8
}
This is easily fixed however with
\override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5)
example:
\relative c'{
\time 6/8
8^"incorrect"
<<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp \shape
#'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \override
Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) \acciaccatura d'8 c }>> |
}
Anyway I was just curious on that.
Oh I tried the fonts out, I am a big fan of font that looks hand written.
So I really liked
improviso.ily. I have used jazzlily for a long time and was wondering has
it been updated since before?
anyway
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RE:Slur and acciaccatura in chords
Stephen,
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Stephen MacNeil [via Lilypond]
wrote:
> Hi Abraham,
>
> Thanks for all the help. I do like your code it works really nice. As
> for the voices
>
> >And just so you know, the << { ... }\\{ ... } >> implicitly applies
> >\voiceOne and \voiceTwo, so those are unnecessary.
>
> I did realize that however i read a post somewhere saying that if
> you explicitly reference \voiceOne \voiceTwo the slur may look
> better. Guess it was wrong since I did end up using \shape. Anyway I
> am wondering why when I add and extra voice using << { ... }\\{ ... }
> >> (as guitar voices sometimes are added and subtracted at random),
> the stem length changes.
>
Sorry. I'm not sure why that happens. Maybe it's that LP is having some
difficulty determining "normal" dimensions with the clashing
NoteColumns?
>
> \version "2.18.2"
> %\include "../fonts/im/improviso.ily"
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> 8^"incorrect"
> <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp
> \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \acciaccatura d'8
> c }>> |
> }
>
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> 8^"correct"
> \shape #'((0.2 . 1.1) (0.5 . 1.5) (0.3 . 2.2) (0.1 . 2.8)) Slur
> \acciaccatura d'8
> }
>
> This is easily fixed however with
>
> \override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5)
>
> example:
>
> \relative c'{
> \time 6/8
> 8^"incorrect"
> <<{\stemUp <\tweak Flag.transparent ##t e g>8}\\{\slurDown \stemUp
> \shape #'((0.2 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0.3)) Slur \override
> Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(3.5) \acciaccatura d'8 c g c>}>> |
> }
>
> Anyway I was just curious on that.
>
> Oh I tried the fonts out, I am a big fan of font that looks hand
> written. So I really liked
> improviso.ily. I have used jazzlily for a long time and was wondering
> has it been updated since before?
>
> anyway
>
> Thanks again
LilyJAZZ has *definitely* been updated. I've added numerous elements,
including articulations, microtonal accidentals, scripts, harmonics,
etc. It's quite complete now. It has also been updated in that it is
used without any fancy coding hacks :) Just do like you did with
Improviso and use the LilyJAZZ stylesheet via
\include "LilyJAZZ.ily"
or manually,
\paper {
#(define fonts
(set-global-fonts
#:music "lilyjazz"
#:brace "lilyjazz"
#:roman "LilyJAZZText"
#:sans "LilyJAZZChords"
#:factor (/ staff-height pt 20)
))
}
in your score and you should be good to go!
Regards,
Abraham
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